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Sep 19, 2020 6:02 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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So it was KILLER ALL THAT TIME!!!
Damn, couldn't have guessed that!
And Also, we see finally the Straw-hats (excludes Chopper and Luffy) giving their Moves and defeats all those samurai of Orochi, since... Fish man Island? Damn that's been a while!

Zoro vs. Kyoushiro.
Kid and Killer together getting caught by Queen's underlings.

Looking forward to the next Episode!
Sep 19, 2020 7:46 PM
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The only good part is the last scene. Damn thats messed up.
Sep 19, 2020 7:50 PM
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Good episode covered up most of the stuff.
Damn that last scene hit me. This whole smile fruit thing really fucks up people's lives... Sigh I can really feel Luffy & Zoro's boiling rage for sure.
Sep 19, 2020 8:23 PM
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Rip killer and kids crew thats tuff

Luffy better clap the fat ass eating soba lmao

Hyped to see im go down hes been pissing me off since the start
Sep 19, 2020 8:34 PM
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Today's episode covered chapter 944, pages 2-13.
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Sep 19, 2020 8:54 PM
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Amazing Episode finally it become interesting
Sep 19, 2020 8:56 PM
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i was not expecting that, god. i feel so bad for kid and killer now.
Sep 19, 2020 8:58 PM
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So Hitogiri Kamazou was Killer all along and damn that's messed up.
Sep 19, 2020 9:08 PM
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kevin_video said:
Today's episode covered chapter 944, pages 2-13.
Lmaooooooo God i love this pacing
Sep 20, 2020 12:39 AM

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Very action packed episode that I've been waiting to see, killer reveal was definitely done very well
Sep 20, 2020 1:09 AM
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I was thinking that big mom will show up unexpectedly and queen will be fucked up. But we got some emotional scene of kid and killer. Damn that smile fruits.
Also after a long time seeing starwhats fight like this.
Sep 20, 2020 1:15 AM

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Oh man it was pretty sad tand surprising to see the crazy Kamazo turning out to be Killer who was forced to eat a smile fruit.

Sep 20, 2020 1:20 AM

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Man Kyoshiro's character is so cool, Can't wait to see more of him.
Sep 20, 2020 1:55 AM

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Mugiwara action never gets old. It's simply nice to see how they got each others back and of course also Luffy cheering them on xD

The Killer reveal really surprised me when I read the manga, but it was such a interesting move. Also to highlight how much Kid cares for his nakama. He got some softness under all these spikes.

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Sep 20, 2020 3:00 AM

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Killer reveal is such a shocking moment. Even poor Kidd got emotional over the reveal.
Sep 20, 2020 3:40 AM
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very good episode as usual
Sep 20, 2020 4:15 AM

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i was not expecting that, god. i feel so bad for kid and killer now.


Poor killer... Kidd going to cut sick once he is free of that sea stone.

I wonder where the rest of his crew are.
Sep 20, 2020 5:28 AM

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I was definitely not expecting that big reveal, the SMILE fruit can really act as a mask to hide one's identity.

Looks like next episode is gonna be action-packed as well (hopefully with some good animation), can't wait!
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Sep 20, 2020 8:18 AM
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Holy shit the plot twist at the end was startling! Just imagining Zoro or Sanji getting forcefully fed that fruit makes me terribly wary of Wano — makes me return to reality as if shoved into my face that things can happen in One Piece. Kid's life as a pirate has been genuinely damaged in an irreversible way.
Sep 20, 2020 9:59 AM

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So that's how Killer's laugh sounds like
Sep 20, 2020 10:02 AM

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Lmao I forgot we don't already know that it's Killer I was like tf these dudes making a big deal out of, didn't we know this but we didn't lol
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Sep 20, 2020 11:05 AM

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Wow, so that was Killer.
Sep 20, 2020 11:43 AM

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Just as shocking in the manga, no one saw that coming.
Sep 20, 2020 1:23 PM

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Yet another great but shocking reveal in this arc. I can't wait till they get to THAT reveal. Wano's story continues to surprise us with many twists and turns and we are not even in the middle of this story arc yet.



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It was obvious from the start, atleast for me, but I never expected that Killer to have eaten a smile fruit. Kid breaking down over Killer was emotional, and I could see both of them getting development. Wano is really shaping up to be one of the best arcs.
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I still can't get over the fact that Zoro continues to have problems with any non-grunt swordsman. Supposedly Zoro graduated from training by the Strongest Swordsman in the World, Dracule Mihawk. I guess that either Zoro was a poor student or Mihawk's abilities as a swordsman (or teacher) are overrated,,,
Sep 21, 2020 2:36 AM

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kevin_video said:
Today's episode covered chapter 944, pages 2-13.


You are honestly blinded by always constantly comparing manga and anime ratio's. Yes the anime episode covered 13 pages of a chapter but look at how much careful attention and detail they used for the killer scene. In the manga if this episode had the same pacing, it would not have near as much impact. That also goes with the extended laughing smiles users, and the reactions on everyone's face when yasue died. Its all there to give the series it self more emotional impact and so far I think the studio has done pretty good job of making these scenes stand out even more so then the manga.

There were a few parts where they used recap and recycled scenes in an obvous effort to extend the episodes but those were way back in act 1. So far act 2 has been pretty satisfying.



Sep 21, 2020 4:39 AM

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Amazing Episode finally it become interesting
just switch to the manga since it doesn't have pacing problem if you're having issues with that.
Sep 21, 2020 9:46 AM

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kevin_video said:
Today's episode covered chapter 944, pages 2-13.

You are honestly blinded by always constantly comparing manga and anime ratio's. Yes the anime episode covered 13 pages of a chapter but look at how much careful attention and detail they used for the killer scene. In the manga if this episode had the same pacing, it would not have near as much impact. That also goes with the extended laughing smiles users, and the reactions on everyone's face when yasue died. Its all there to give the series it self more emotional impact and so far I think the studio has done pretty good job of making these scenes stand out even more so then the manga.

There were a few parts where they used recap and recycled scenes in an obvous effort to extend the episodes but those were way back in act 1. So far act 2 has been pretty satisfying.

1) While I do not agree with your statement, you're welcome to your opinion.
2) I only noted what the episode covered. I didn't say I hated it, or put it down, or praise it. I just put down the pages and chapter. Nothing more. You're the one projecting and declaring biases.
3) Saying "constantly" is a bit much. I've done it more than a few times, but constantly means I'm doing it regularly. I'm not. Especially considering I regularly take a break from the anime.
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kevin_video said:
link9us said:

You are honestly blinded by always constantly comparing manga and anime ratio's. Yes the anime episode covered 13 pages of a chapter but look at how much careful attention and detail they used for the killer scene. In the manga if this episode had the same pacing, it would not have near as much impact. That also goes with the extended laughing smiles users, and the reactions on everyone's face when yasue died. Its all there to give the series it self more emotional impact and so far I think the studio has done pretty good job of making these scenes stand out even more so then the manga.

There were a few parts where they used recap and recycled scenes in an obvous effort to extend the episodes but those were way back in act 1. So far act 2 has been pretty satisfying.

1) While I do not agree with your statement, you're welcome to your opinion.
2) I only noted what the episode covered. I didn't say I hated it, or put it down, or praise it. I just put down the pages and chapter. Nothing more. You're the one projecting and declaring biases.
3) Saying "constantly" is a bit much. I've done it more than a few times, but constantly means I'm doing it regularly. I'm not. Especially considering I regularly take a break from the anime.


Apologies. I was pertaining to a part of the Fandom it self, not specifically you. Have you seen CR, its redicilous, its like those people complain in every single episode. I understand everyone is entitield to their objective opinions but I see to much of this comparing manga and anime and I think alot of people fail to see things more clearly in some aspects. What are the reasons why certain episodes don't have the pacing of the manga? Well because certain scenes they extend or add material to emphesize or make that scene stand out more, on the other hand it could just be because a 1:1 ratio of that paticular scene panel by panel, when transformed into animation wouldn't have the same appeal or consistent flow especially if its an action scene coupled with dramatic moments.

To exemplify emotion for example, anime has to uses longer shots of facial expressions then the way you interpert it in the manga. They are two very different story telling mediums which are represented in different ways and I think alot of people don't consider all these other variables when it comes to adapating source material and only focus on the chapters used for the production.

Something else I wanted to bring up is when you watch anime with out thepreconceived notions of following the manga, you see things more clearly i think, your eyes are not clouded and you don't have the manga at the back of your mind perswaying you how a paticular pacing of the production should be. Granted yes there are Obvous horribly executed sequences that are easy to point out but I think your perception of the anime production would be a bit more accurate if you didn't have the manga to go by. Something I have always observed my self. Had I never read one piece and watched the G8 filler, i probably would have consistered it to be very canon and cohesevily connected to the story. And the end of the day it really don't matter what your watching be it filler or original story, if it entertains you enough to enjoy it, then the studio has done their job correctly in my opinion.
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Apologies. I was pertaining to a part of the Fandom it self, not specifically you. Have you seen CR, its redicilous, its like those people complain in every single episode. I understand everyone is entitield to their objective opinions but I see to much of this comparing manga and anime and I think alot of people fail to see things more clearly in some aspects. What are the reasons why certain episodes don't have the pacing of the manga? Well because certain scenes they extend or add material to emphesize or make that scene stand out more, on the other hand it could just be because a 1:1 ratio of that paticular scene panel by panel, when transformed into animation wouldn't have the same appeal or consistent flow especially if its an action scene coupled with dramatic moments.

To exemplify emotion for example, anime has to uses longer shots of facial expressions then the way you interpert it in the manga. They are two very different story telling mediums which are represented in different ways and I think alot of people don't consider all these other variables when it comes to adapating source material and only focus on the chapters used for the production.

Something else I wanted to bring up is when you watch anime with out thepreconceived notions of following the manga, you see things more clearly i think, your eyes are not clouded and you don't have the manga at the back of your mind perswaying you how a paticular pacing of the production should be. Granted yes there are Obvous horribly executed sequences that are easy to point out but I think your perception of the anime production would be a bit more accurate if you didn't have the manga to go by. Something I have always observed my self. Had I never read one piece and watched the G8 filler, i probably would have consistered it to be very canon and cohesevily connected to the story. And the end of the day it really don't matter what your watching be it filler or original story, if it entertains you enough to enjoy it, then the studio has done their job correctly in my opinion.

Nah, I stay away from CR's peanut gallery of comments. They can be quite toxic, even back when I did briefly check them out years ago. They'll have to look elsewhere soon if things continue to go badly for AT&T as CR is likely going to disappear soonish.
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I still can't get over the fact that Zoro continues to have problems with any non-grunt swordsman. Supposedly Zoro graduated from training by the Strongest Swordsman in the World, Dracule Mihawk. I guess that either Zoro was a poor student or Mihawk's abilities as a swordsman (or teacher) are overrated,,,


Don't underestimate kyoushiro.... I won't spoil it for you but he's really strong....
Sep 21, 2020 6:37 PM

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dbaranyi said:
I still can't get over the fact that Zoro continues to have problems with any non-grunt swordsman. Supposedly Zoro graduated from training by the Strongest Swordsman in the World, Dracule Mihawk. I guess that either Zoro was a poor student or Mihawk's abilities as a swordsman (or teacher) are overrated,,,


Don't underestimate kyoushiro.... I won't spoil it for you but he's really strong....


I'm not underestimating Kyoushiro - I'm ticked off that Zoro ALWAYS has trouble with any halfway decent swordsman.
Sep 22, 2020 3:10 AM

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kitkat2312 said:


Don't underestimate kyoushiro.... I won't spoil it for you but he's really strong....


I'm not underestimating Kyoushiro - I'm ticked off that Zoro ALWAYS has trouble with any halfway decent swordsman.


Zoro is strong but you have to realize by now that there are swordsman in the one piece world that are FAR stronger. Also with the reveal just now I can say that he actually clashed with a supernova being killer. As well as Kyoushiro, both characters are reletavily on equal footing with zoro, maybe killer is a bit weaker but still a Super nova is a Super nova. It's not like he's having a hard time fighting fodder soldiers. That being said, there are characters that are impressibly more skilled and more formidable then zoro 10 times over. So in the future, don't expect him to be like a dominant powerhouse that can topple any swordsman. He's growing and for sure after wano, he will attain probably a huge boost of skill and ability upgrades. But he still has along ways to go. Also mihawk may have improved his haki control and skill as a swordsman which shows, but it doesn't matter because the weapons zoro carries are still far from the strongest blades.

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Sep 22, 2020 9:10 AM

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Damn, I can't believe I caught up to the anime after not watching for almost a year. it feels like nothing happened until the last two episodes.
Sep 22, 2020 7:52 PM

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The only 2 persons who would insult each other after such a long time could only be Zoro and Sanji. I missed their dynamic so much :D

We also got some decent action of the straw hats besides Chopper which was also nice to see. As pissed as Zoro was after Yasu died I was so glad he launched an attack towards Orochi. Didn't expect Kyoshiro to appear in that moment. He's definitely strong and I'm sure Zoro will have a hard time with him.

At first I couldn't really understand why Kid would surrender against some random underlings. But holy shit when he asked Kamazo what happened to him I knew who Kamazo really was. What an reveal. That wasn't on my radar at all. Kids crew means a lot to him, that was clearly to see in this scene. That's also the reason why Luffy got so pissed about it. I hope he kicks Queens ass and get finally out of that fucking prison.

Sep 22, 2020 9:33 PM

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I was surprised of Orochi realizing, that guy genuinely tried to kill me. Wow, Killer, that’s very fucked up, Kid has lot of reasons to join the revolution.
Sep 23, 2020 1:44 AM

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The Killer reveal was a real surprise, did not expect that. So why did he start working for Orochi, can they control people under SMILE influence?
Sep 23, 2020 4:47 PM
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OMG, I feel so sorry for Killer and Kid :(
Sep 23, 2020 6:17 PM

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I loved the gaze in Zoro's eyes. It looked very fearless and epic. He has really guts to stand up against anyone. I don't mind Orochi being sliced by Zoro, but there are many others who deserve that honor. Each person who hates him deserve a slash.

It's sad what happened to Killer, but I don't feel bad for him. Hard to feel sorry for people who kills without any hesitation just because they are laughed at. The same goes for Kid, though I like him. He is a cool dude. However, it's devastating to see what the SMILE devil fruit does to a person. It's a very sad to see it makes you not capable to show any other expression than laughing.

One can't get enough of Zoro x Sanji moments. These two are like oil and water. Browgoro and Mossjuro are some funny nicknames, but not very original. The idea have been these since the start. LOL. Even more hilarious are luffy's lying face


As always the eps. are dragged. Next time, Luffy will throw punch against Queen, but blocked by another. Give it 5 more ep. before we see a real fight. ^^

Sep 23, 2020 9:39 PM

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I loved the gaze in Zoro's eyes. It looked very fearless and epic. He has really guts to stand up against anyone. I don't mind Orochi being sliced by Zoro, but there are many others who deserve that honor. Each person who hates him deserve a slash.

It's sad what happened to Killer, but I don't feel bad for him. Hard to feel sorry for people who kills without any hesitation just because they are laughed at. The same goes for Kid, though I like him. He is a cool dude. However, it's devastating to see what the SMILE devil fruit does to a person. It's a very sad to see it makes you not capable to show any other expression than laughing.

One can't get enough of Zoro x Sanji moments. These two are like oil and water. Browgoro and Mossjuro are some funny nicknames, but not very original. The idea have been these since the start. LOL. Even more hilarious are luffy's lying face


As always the eps. are dragged. Next time, Luffy will throw punch against Queen, but blocked by another. Give it 5 more ep. before we see a real fight. ^^



I don't think so since we are getting much closer to when you know who shows up and when that happens. All hell breaks loose.



Sep 24, 2020 3:39 AM

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I was aware that the masked man was Killer from the beginning. When the animation of his fight with Zoro went around everybody was calling it the Killer and Zoro fight. To have him introduced around the time that we saw Kid in prison felt obvious with this knowledge. That's Killer and that's Kid. however, it was as soon as I heard his alias that I realized I wasn't supposed to know that. Further my friend confirmed that he didn't realize that either. I suppose knowing the plot twist doesn't really give it that much weight however because, it only holds the weight it does with the new smile knowledge.

And with the knowledge of smiles in mind, that final scene was literally chilling. Making a bunch of people that we don't really know into laughing weirdos, that's one thing. But me realizing, before it was explicitly stated, that the supernova Killer had to have eaten one made me freeze. To be explicitly pursued as Killer hating his laugh to the point that he beats anyone who mocks it, not so different from Pica and Doffy actually, but also hiding his face only to be laughing constantly without his mask on.. To see from Kid's eyes as he sees what I can only imagine is his Zoro, his best friend in such a miserable state, while not knowing where any of his other nakama are... What we saw was what Kaido did to the supernovas he encountered before Luffy and Zoro. This could have or could be the Straw Hats.

I can't help but feel that despair and appreciate seeing what such stubborn and strong dudes have turned into at the wrath of Kaido. It honestly gave me Moria vibes, what I can only imagine he felt as his crew was crushed under Kaido's palm, and what he lived through again with Absalom.

I should also comment on the fact that I could feel Zoro's killing intent and it made for every move of his to be insanely engaging. I was on the edge of my seat, especially with the first projectile he shot at Orochi. Sanji clearly seeing something was up!
Sep 24, 2020 4:37 PM

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How long ago was it since the last time we saw the Strawhats fight together like that? That was awesome. I'm growing old but that's is something that I will always enjoy. Also, damn. So that's who that laughing creepy dude was. I can see it now man. Both Kid and Law has something personal against Kaido and Luffy is, well just being himself trying to be the superhero. Near the end of this arc it's gonna be the 3 of them again.
Sep 26, 2020 6:31 AM

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Luffy, Kid, Law I can't wait for that trios to team up against Kaido, one that bugs me
is why Killer can't talk normally?
Oct 6, 2020 2:57 AM

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So that's why they call it "SMILE". That's more than a little messed up.
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Oct 7, 2020 2:39 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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So it was KILLER ALL THAT TIME!!!
Damn, couldn't have guessed that!
And Also, we see finally the Straw-hats (excludes Chopper and Luffy) giving their Moves and defeats all those samurai of Orochi, since... Fish man Island? Damn that's been a while!

Zoro vs. Kyoushiro.
Kid and Killer together getting caught by Queen's underlings.

Looking forward to the next Episode!


Why did Kyoushiro block zoro's slash man I know you trying to keep up the act of being his underling but fam Kyoushiro himself much be more pissed than zoro cuz he knows yasu longer and more than zoro but I'm trying to understand is why protect him the plan doesn't depend on Orochi fully I'm pretty sure kaidou would go forward with the plan regardless that's the kind of person kaidou is, I'm seriously questioning this here also why couldn't no one put two and two together without having people explain why they are laughing like that jeez straw hats y'all showing the lack of brain cells the only one who said something decent was luffy there must be a reason why they are laughing
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Oct 30, 2020 4:00 PM
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That Killer reveal.
Looks like Zoro can't easily shake off Kyoushiro.
Nov 19, 2020 4:28 AM

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Whoa so that was Killer all along!!
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Kyoshiro seems to be tough since he can easily block Zoro's attacks. Also the reveal that Kamazo is Killer. Damn.
Jan 28, 2021 10:17 AM
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Man I love this! It's been literally years (IRL) since we got some battle teamwork involving almost all of the strawhats. They're a force to be reckoned with for sure, who else besides a select few of groups can go against the full force of Orochi's men (Excluding Kaido's subordinates) and expect 100% to deal with it successfully.

The last part revealing that Kamazo was Killer is really impactful, especially hearing Killer hysterically laugh whilst Kid tearfully and furiously asked who had done all of these. Even though I've known this fact from the manga, the experience is surreal in the anime. Especially when Kid talked in such a pained manner, whilst crying, very uncharacteristic of the usual him, then again, he's in an unusual land where his closest ally has been given an unusual item to consume, the devilish SMILE fruit.

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