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Aug 12, 2020 3:38 AM

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Clannad for sure. i couldn't even bother finishing it lmao.
Aug 12, 2020 4:21 AM

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NamikazeHime said:
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It really sounds like you haven't seen an anime when you call the deconstruction of a genre a regular member of the genre

Like
That's not even about taste or preference.
Your statement is objectively wrong

I've actually seen it, and I think that entire concept of 'darker mahou shojo'is nothing really special. I wasn't amazed by the series nor I liked it more because of that darker tone. I'm trying to say that if you take that blood out you literally have just a regular mahou shojo and nothing more.

Madoka wasn't even the first destruction of that particular genre so I have no idea why people look at it as something new.


yeah and what i am saying is that this statement is objectively not true .
if you take the blood out you still have everything else that is the deconstruction

disliking something is whatever but the statement that this is just a mahou shoujo story with blood is objectively wrong XD

the themes are objectively not typical mahou shoujo stuff

the plotlines litteraly every main character is not what normal mahou shoujo storys are about .

Typical Mahou Shoujo storys do not develop on classic greek tragedy or Goethes faust.

if you think the only think that is different is the blood then you are heavily missing the point

from like 0:40 forward that dude makes a pretty good video about why this ( and urobuchis storys in general) are not dark because of bloodshed .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcb9S_fw_BM&t=40s

Aug 12, 2020 4:32 AM

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CuteAssTiger said:
NamikazeHime said:

I've actually seen it, and I think that entire concept of 'darker mahou shojo'is nothing really special. I wasn't amazed by the series nor I liked it more because of that darker tone. I'm trying to say that if you take that blood out you literally have just a regular mahou shojo and nothing more.

Madoka wasn't even the first destruction of that particular genre so I have no idea why people look at it as something new.


yeah and what i am saying is that this statement is objectively not true .
if you take the blood out you still have everything else that is the deconstruction

disliking something is whatever but the statement that this is just a mahou shoujo story with blood is objectively wrong XD

the themes are objectively not typical mahou shoujo stuff

the plotlines litteraly every main character is not what normal mahou shoujo storys are about .

Typical Mahou Shoujo storys do not develop on classic greek tragedy or Goethes faust.

if you think the only think that is different is the blood then you are heavily missing the point

from like 0:40 forward that dude makes a pretty good video about why this ( and urobuchis storys in general) are not dark because of bloodshed .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcb9S_fw_BM&t=40s



Oh, yeah. I almost forgot about betrayal thing. Like we didn't see it from a mile away.

And about Greek tragedy - it was an interesting detail, but did it make me love it more? Nope, it didn't. I still watched the entire thing with Saitama's OK face.
Aug 12, 2020 5:16 AM

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dertasso said:


NamikazeHime said:
There is a bunch of them but the most 'controversial' one is probably Madoka Magica. Spilling the blood on some lolis doesn't make it a groundbreaking masterpiece.

You again? I already told you that Madoka is about depression, despair and hope a week ago. This guy already showed you an analysis, but you're like:nah


Shouldn't I be the one who says 'you again'? And I'm gonna say it again - depression, despair and hope are the themes of like 80% of anime series. I don't see how that will make it any more interesting.

Anyway, if you enjoyed it, good for you. To me, it was average. Tastes are different, and that's the beauty of them.
Aug 12, 2020 5:31 AM
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Cowboy Bebop, Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu, Great Teacher Onizuka, Hyouka, Steins;Gate, and Evangelion so far.

I can't take GTO seriously bcs of the art style and the animation. Those two are too old for an anime that came out in 1999. One Piece, Yuu Yuu Hakusho, Cowboy Bebop and Eva had better animation. Also the story in GTO is pretty average imo
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Highly rated anime I do not get into and enjoy? Well, half of MAL's top 100. Even a user with a broad taste will always have genres and individual shows they disagree about with the majority opinion. Anything else would be a sign that a user hasn't a fully developed taste herself, wouldn't it?

Aug 12, 2020 6:09 AM

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NamikazeHime said:
CuteAssTiger said:


yeah and what i am saying is that this statement is objectively not true .
if you take the blood out you still have everything else that is the deconstruction

disliking something is whatever but the statement that this is just a mahou shoujo story with blood is objectively wrong XD

the themes are objectively not typical mahou shoujo stuff

the plotlines litteraly every main character is not what normal mahou shoujo storys are about .

Typical Mahou Shoujo storys do not develop on classic greek tragedy or Goethes faust.

if you think the only think that is different is the blood then you are heavily missing the point

from like 0:40 forward that dude makes a pretty good video about why this ( and urobuchis storys in general) are not dark because of bloodshed .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcb9S_fw_BM&t=40s



Oh, yeah. I almost forgot about betrayal thing. Like we didn't see it from a mile away.

And about Greek tragedy - it was an interesting detail, but did it make me love it more? Nope, it didn't. I still watched the entire thing with Saitama's OK face.


entire plot structure = an interesting detail ?

are you sure you know what you are talking about ?
That in combination with thinking this is just magical girls + blood is a lot of stuff that you seemingly overlooked ?


you tastes can be whatever you want .
nobody tells you what you are supposed to like .
the statement in question was still objectively wrong though

there is a difference between
>i dont like blue<
and
>blue is just another shade of yellow<

Aug 12, 2020 6:17 AM

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nanimeanswhat said:
FLCL. Just wtf was that? Two most annoying girls ever are sexually harassing an elementary school kid while random and disturbing shit's happening here and there. That's it. That's the anime.
It's targeted towards horny teens who wish they would get sexually harassed by hot 18 year olds. And to to edgy teens who see growing up as random and disturbing.
-Ryu said:
I seriously have no idea why Erased is/was so highly rated, it's not particularly good at anything it tries to do.
People mainly like Erased for the socioligical aspects, which are pretty well done imo. Not so for the plot, which was pretty meh I admit.
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Oregairu and Natsume Yuujinchou. I couldn't even finish them. Oregairu I tried to watch twice but couldn't get past episode 4 every time, I did not like the characters enough to continue and see what's so special about it.
Many sidecharacters get a lot of screentime in S2. After S2 you could potentially say that the show has a pretty good cast. But yea it takes some time, especially if you don't like the mc.
mosaicboy said:
Nichijou is the most unfunny thing I've ever seen. I genuinely do not understand people who find that show funny.
It makes situations in our ordinary life look epic, and that's just what some people need. Also it's random like ordinary life is and that fits.
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Madoka Magica- boring. didn't get how people thought it was just so mind blowing. The plot twist barely even fazed me.

Gurren Lagann- boring. cringey. annoying characters. Also don't get why people like Kamina so much, his speeches were pretty random and was just like he was talking nonsense.

Clannad Afterstory- don't see how this was so emotionally impactful for so many people.
Kamina is liked because sometimes we need motivation which is obviously bs, but we don't care. Any motivation is good, and bs motivation is just easier to come up with.

Clannad is impactful to young adults want to learn what's actually important in life and also see themselves in the kinda stupid mc (like me lol).
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in the end of season 2 he still had trouble with his emotions and in general mob is childish and boring, he ins't suitable to be a main character.
Mob is actually less childish than most side characters a.e. because he doesn't want to fight. That's the point with Mobi Wan. He doesn't need that specific character development that you would expect because he already has the moral high ground (heh). The show is a lot about how the other characters deal with him.
NamikazeHime said:
Shouldn't I be the one who says 'you again'? And I'm gonna say it again - depression, despair and hope are the themes of like 80% of anime series. I don't see how that will make it any more interesting.

Anyway, if you enjoyed it, good for you. To me, it was average. Tastes are different, and that's the beauty of them.
You did look like you didn't quite got some of the stuff, so I wanted to clear it up. So here we go again. Dealing with depression, despair and hope are the main topics of the show and they take it serious, which is not often the case. Let's take depression. It says how can depression emerge, how does it affect you and the ones around you. The video touches this topic, but it misses the whole adulthood vs maturity stuff, which is in fact the main theme. The main girls get thrown into adulthood by becoming magical girls, but need to gain maturity in order to survive (edgy I know). They get confronted with despair, need to avoid depression and need to hold onto hope. That is the actual drill of the show in 2 sentences.
Ofc you won't like it, no matter how many analysis videos you see. But now you know that it's not just about killing lolis and shit. I really hope this makes sense.
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FMAB and MHA. FMAB I still might pick up again, but after watching MHA till Season 4, it seems like a bad gacha adaptation. Too many character who are forgettable. If it was based on game, I would have more time to spend with the characters, but it's not like that.

FMAB was boring for the initial few episodes I watched. I wonder how so many people have completed it. Maybe I'll like it if I ever finish it, but at this point, it's probably going to disappoint me.
Aug 12, 2020 6:49 AM

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That would have to be Code Geass, Death Parade, and Koe no Katachi (A Silent Voice).
Aug 12, 2020 6:51 AM

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It's complicated because it seems I don't have any that I didn't enjoy. If there is the one that I barely couldn't get into, it has to be Steins; Gate.
Aug 12, 2020 7:04 AM
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bakemonogatari series and jojo. i don't understand why people like it even if they don't understand the entire story nut it's thier opinion so...
I understand people who like Jojo because it's particular. I only like some scenes like from memes and that's all. i?m not interested in the story
Aug 12, 2020 7:10 AM

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Kimetsu no Yaiba is pure garbage and a 1/10, I feel offended by how badly written and stupid this series is, beatiful art and animation is not everything.

Also I dropped Attack on Titan halfway through season 1, I don't know what's that appealing about it.
Aug 12, 2020 7:11 AM

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KonoSuba
Maybe I don't have a sense of humor that this show caters to...
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So far, I didn't really enjoy Seven Deadly Sins.
Aug 12, 2020 7:21 AM

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CuteAssTiger said:
NamikazeHime said:


Oh, yeah. I almost forgot about betrayal thing. Like we didn't see it from a mile away.

And about Greek tragedy - it was an interesting detail, but did it make me love it more? Nope, it didn't. I still watched the entire thing with Saitama's OK face.


entire plot structure = an interesting detail ?

are you sure you know what you are talking about ?
That in combination with thinking this is just magical girls + blood is a lot of stuff that you seemingly overlooked ?


you tastes can be whatever you want .
nobody tells you what you are supposed to like .
the statement in question was still objectively wrong though

there is a difference between
>i dont like blue<
and
>blue is just another shade of yellow<


This conversation became extremely bothersome, so I'll try to 'explain' everything in one post.


First of all - Greek tragedy. I realize that many people (including you I guess) would go nuts about this. But for someone who actually spend big chunk of her childhood buried in books about ancient history, culture and myths this was an interesting theme and nothing more than that. My reaction to those references was 'OK, that's nice, but what's next? '

For some reason you really like to pin point my 'mahou shojo + blood' statement. There is this thing called irony and I like to use it whenever I have to spend my time writing about something I don't really care about. It was extreme simplification of a story that was OK and I should probably be more specific about it. There is a lot more to this series (as the person above said - depression, hope, despair), but those didn't manage to make it any more unique for me.

For objectivity - there is no thing in this world that's objectively good or bad and there is no statement that is objectively right or wrong. That's how I see the term objectivity' and that's why I don't care about leading meaningless conversations about it.
Aug 12, 2020 7:34 AM
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I usually am all for highly rated anime because I've appreciated all the ones I've watched so far... Although I didn't really enjoy Cowboy Bebop and one anime I just couldn't sit through was tengen toppa gurren lagann... Still can't comprehend why it's so higly rated on MAL when in my opinion there are tons of anime way better.
Aug 12, 2020 7:49 AM

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Your lie in April >___< and Kimi No na Wa >_< I felt nothing...

I also have mixed feelings about Oregairu 3rd season as well, I liked the 1st season because it was sardonic and silly lol
Aug 12, 2020 8:21 AM
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Most highly rated anime are low brow garbage so I'd say about 80% to 90% of them.
Aug 12, 2020 8:40 AM

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NamikazeHime said:
CuteAssTiger said:


entire plot structure = an interesting detail ?

are you sure you know what you are talking about ?
That in combination with thinking this is just magical girls + blood is a lot of stuff that you seemingly overlooked ?


you tastes can be whatever you want .
nobody tells you what you are supposed to like .
the statement in question was still objectively wrong though

there is a difference between
>i dont like blue<
and
>blue is just another shade of yellow<


This conversation became extremely bothersome, so I'll try to 'explain' everything in one post.


First of all - Greek tragedy. I realize that many people (including you I guess) would go nuts about this. But for someone who actually spend big chunk of her childhood buried in books about ancient history, culture and myths this was an interesting theme and nothing more than that. My reaction to those references was 'OK, that's nice, but what's next? '

For some reason you really like to pin point my 'mahou shojo + blood' statement. There is this thing called irony and I like to use it whenever I have to spend my time writing about something I don't really care about. It was extreme simplification of a story that was OK and I should probably be more specific about it. There is a lot more to this series (as the person above said - depression, hope, despair), but those didn't manage to make it any more unique for me.

For objectivity - there is no thing in this world that's objectively good or bad and there is no statement that is objectively right or wrong. That's how I see the term objectivity' and that's why I don't care about leading meaningless conversations about it.



adapting a certain structure of storytelling is not really a theme or specific refrence but whatever

of course i would pinpoint an incorrect statement when you further go on about how this would be just a normal mahou shoujo story without the blood.
it is hardly irony when someone makes an oversimplification and follows it up with an incorrect statement

as for objective statemtents

yellow is not blue

the sky is not green

the earth is a planet and is not flat

the deconstruction of a genre is not a typical member of that genre

see ?
statements can very well be objective and correct or wrong
If we are able to define what a thing or the aspects that make up the thing is we can check if a claim about that thing is correct or incorrect.

deciding on good or bad is a far more difficult task because a million different aspects playing into that as well as unavoidable personal prefrences.

but thats why i wasnt saying that your dislike is wrong . you can like and dislike whatever.
but the statement that actually was wrong

we dont have to continue this if you think it is bothersome but i think this was a reasonable discussion
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Artreyu said:
Your lie in April >___< and Kimi No na Wa >_< I felt nothing...

I also have mixed feelings about Oregairu 3rd season as well, I liked the 1st season because it was sardonic and silly lol


i think kimi no na wa hits really good when it comes to feels but then the plotholes keep pilling up x_x
Aug 12, 2020 8:45 AM
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Kaguya sama love is war. Wasnt funny at all. Same for Gintama. The clips looked funny.
Aug 12, 2020 8:50 AM
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MHA I guess if you include it as a highly rated show. I usually like my long drawn shounen anime which is apparent from my list. But I just feel that MHA is popular because it has a very PC feel to it. I mean it's a decent show, no doubt about that. But I think it seems to lack the same emotional attachment that earlier shows held. Perhaps that has to do with my age as well, I didn't grow up watching MHA but I did grow up watching Naruto. Which makes it seem better for me. But still I think the main flaw with MHA is that the mc seems to be emotional and get into typical shounen righteous mood but lacks the concrete base for it. Style more than substance perhaps.
Aug 12, 2020 8:58 AM
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Probably Naruto, can't get into it cause of old animation.
And im on ep 11 ( I think??) and i can't stand watching sakura
Aug 12, 2020 9:04 AM

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Parasyte.
I don't get what is so good about it.
The characters are bland and things occur because reasons
Aug 12, 2020 9:06 AM

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Made In Abyss even after 3 eps I couldn't find this shit worth watching. I just don't think it's worth watching the rest of the anime for the shocker ending. Dropped it and gave it a 6 because it did a lot a right but the plot just boring.
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CuteAssTiger said:
NamikazeHime said:

This conversation became extremely bothersome, so I'll try to 'explain' everything in one post.


First of all - Greek tragedy. I realize that many people (including you I guess) would go nuts about this. But for someone who actually spend big chunk of her childhood buried in books about ancient history, culture and myths this was an interesting theme and nothing more than that. My reaction to those references was 'OK, that's nice, but what's next? '

For some reason you really like to pin point my 'mahou shojo + blood' statement. There is this thing called irony and I like to use it whenever I have to spend my time writing about something I don't really care about. It was extreme simplification of a story that was OK and I should probably be more specific about it. There is a lot more to this series (as the person above said - depression, hope, despair), but those didn't manage to make it any more unique for me.

For objectivity - there is no thing in this world that's objectively good or bad and there is no statement that is objectively right or wrong. That's how I see the term objectivity' and that's why I don't care about leading meaningless conversations about it.



adapting a certain structure of storytelling is not really a theme or specific refrence but whatever

of course i would pinpoint an incorrect statement when you further go on about how this would be just a normal mahou shoujo story without the blood.
it is hardly irony when someone makes an oversimplification and follows it up with an incorrect statement

as for objective statemtents

yellow is not blue

the sky is not green

the earth is a planet and is not flat

the deconstruction of a genre is not a typical member of that genre

see ?
statements can very well be objective and correct or wrong
If we are able to define what a thing or the aspects that make up the thing is we can check if a claim about that thing is correct or incorrect.

deciding on good or bad is a far more difficult task because a million different aspects playing into that as well as unavoidable personal prefrences.

but thats why i wasnt saying that your dislike is wrong . you can like and dislike whatever.
but the statement that actually was wrong

we dont have to continue this if you think it is bothersome but i think this was a reasonable discussion

How can you explain the difference between yellow and blue to someone who is completely blind or even color blinded?

Sky can look green if you watch it's reflection in the lake/ river surrounded by trees. It truly is a majestic view.

The last one is not even a statement, it's a scientific fact. Sience is not something that should be believed or not, it's something you know or don't know.

Which one of my statements is bothering you so much? I really want to know.
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CuteAssTiger said:
Artreyu said:
Your lie in April >___< and Kimi No na Wa >_< I felt nothing...

I also have mixed feelings about Oregairu 3rd season as well, I liked the 1st season because it was sardonic and silly lol


i think kimi no na wa hits really good when it comes to feels but then the plotholes keep pilling up x_x


I think I liked it a bit at the start but then it started to slowly annoy me lol, and by the time it came to that music montage part I rolled my eyes lmao. I watched it ages ago though so maybe it would be different now.. maybe...

It's ironic, the people who suggested it to me at the time weren't the emotional-types either (kind of cold) compared to me, but said they cried over it D:









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I couldn't quite get into devilman crybaby and toradora despite many people claiming it to be very good.
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I couldn't quite get into devilman crybaby and toradora despite many people claiming it to be very good.
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For what I consider to be highly rated.....Up until this point...NONE!!...And I hope it will remain this way...

I'm really scared in Jojo's case though...I didn't start the series yet...but it doesn't seem to have anything appealing for me from the outside.
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How can you explain the difference between yellow and blue to someone who is completely blind or even color blinded?

Sky can look green if you watch it's reflection in the lake/ river surrounded by trees. It truly is a majestic view.

The last one is not even a statement, it's a scientific fact. Sience is not something that should be believed or not, it's something you know or don't know.

Which one of my statements is bothering you so much? I really want to know.[/quote]

those examples change the subjective view of the person looking at the color or the sky but it does not change the factual colorof blue or yellow or of the color or the sky

color is the result of objects reflecting certain types of light .
light contains many colors and if a certain object reflects the yellow part of the light the object will appear as yellow



btw i fucked up the quote function of this website

@Nikiforova


a person might be color blind but that does not change the factual color of the thing

a person might look at the reflection of something in a lake or look at things through rose colored glasses and that might change their perception of the object in question but it does not change what the object actually is



and something being a scientific fact does not stop it from being a statment .

if i say "X-thing is Y " then that is by definition a statement .
whenever the statement is incorrect or a scientific fact does not change that "X-thing is Y" is a statement



as for the statement .
the statment that bothered me was when you said that madoka is just a normal mahou shoujo story + the blood .
sry if i didnt make that clear.
you said that you oversimplified it.
i was disagreeing with that statement



for a more interesting discussion. ( and i can totally see why and how you would disagree with me on that one)

i believe in the objective Quality of things

for example .

>your name < is a better story then "tom goes to the store and buys poop"

i think/ assume/hope ( i really hope ) we agree on that

however we do have different biases and preferences.
we look through different colored glass essentially .

so while we might be able to determine on a number of factors that your name is the better story we are propably not going to come to a 100% understanding .

i loved kimi no na wa but once i noticed the plotholes they really started bugging me .
i dont think its plausable that taki spend so much time in mitsuhas body without noticing that they are 3 years appart even thou he uses her phone every day.


i think/ assume/hope we agree on that the idea that " kimi no na wa would be a better story if it didnt have the plotholes that it has "

its a well established story telling technique to have a plot that isnt contradictory to itself .

however .
due to our biases we might have different views on how much that even matters

the objective truth still exists but we can not quantify it in numbers or anything equivalent because there are a million aspects that go into storytelling

its kind of like philosophy

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Artreyu said:
CuteAssTiger said:


i think kimi no na wa hits really good when it comes to feels but then the plotholes keep pilling up x_x


I think I liked it a bit at the start but then it started to slowly annoy me lol, and by the time it came to that music montage part I rolled my eyes lmao. I watched it ages ago though so maybe it would be different now.. maybe...

It's ironic, the people who suggested it to me at the time weren't the emotional-types either (kind of cold) compared to me, but said they cried over it D:











maybe it was your mood at the time

who knows
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Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica

Loli dying is somehow revolutionary.


we actually just went over this so if you want to find out that madoka is more then >loli ded< its your lucky day XD
edit: though to be fair you cant understand madoka when you drop it at episode 3 XD that is where the deconstruction begins
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CuteAssTiger said:


@Nikiforova


a person might be color blind but that does not change the factual color of the thing

a person might look at the reflection of something in a lake or look at things through rose colored glasses and that might change their perception of the object in question but it does not change what the object actually is



and something being a scientific fact does not stop it from being a statment .

if i say "X-thing is Y " then that is by definition a statement .
whenever the statement is incorrect or a scientific fact does not change that "X-thing is Y" is a statement



as for the statement .
the statment that bothered me was when you said that madoka is just a normal mahou shoujo story + the blood .
sry if i didnt make that clear.
you said that you oversimplified it.
i was disagreeing with that statement



for a more interesting discussion. ( and i can totally see why and how you would disagree with me on that one)

i believe in the objective Quality of things

for example .

>your name < is a better story then "tom goes to the store and buys poop"

i think/ assume/hope ( i really hope ) we agree on that

however we do have different biases and preferences.
we look through different colored glass essentially .

so while we might be able to determine on a number of factors that your name is the better story we are propably not going to come to a 100% understanding .

i loved kimi no na wa but once i noticed the plotholes they really started bugging me .
i dont think its plausable that taki spend so much time in mitsuhas body without noticing that they are 3 years appart even thou he uses her phone every day.


i think/ assume/hope we agree on that the idea that " kimi no na wa would be a better story if it didnt have the plotholes that it has "

its a well established story telling technique to have a plot that isnt contradictory to itself .

however .
due to our biases we might have different views on how much that even matters

the objective truth still exists but we can not quantify it in numbers or anything equivalent because there are a million aspects that go into storytelling

its kind of like philosophy



I don't really need a science lesson here, I just hoped that you'll get my point.

I'm gonna try to explain my reasoning behind that statement. Let's see:

Naruto is about a boy and a beast that lives in his tummy.
One Piece is about pirates that can't swim.
Gintama is about Jack off all trades.
Katekyo Hitman Reborn is about mafia.
Bleach is about a boy who can see ghost.
Monster is about a serial killer.
Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu is about war that takes place in space.
Trigun is about a gunslinger.


Ofcourse, we all know that all of these series are so much more than that, but if I wanted to explain them in one sentence, I would probably say something like this. If someone asked me to explain Madoka in one sentence I would say ' it's a mahou shojo with a little bit of blood here and therem with a darker theme.' That's the meaning behind my first statement and I hope this clears it once and for all.


I don't really see it as a philosophy. It's a way of thinking that most of us find valid and logical. Arguably, you can find a person who's preferences are leaning towards 'Tom
goes to the store and buys poop.' As long there is person who has that kind of preferences, his 'objectively good' and our 'objectively good' are fundamentaly different and you can just debate about one of them being superior to another.
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I really wanted to get into the Monogatari series but idk, it just wasn't my thing..

I got bored of it in like 4 episodes of the first season. Maybe it gets better idk. Too lazy to get back into it again.
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Gintama - didn't find it funny
Daily Life of Daily Lives of High School Boys - didn't find it funny
One Piece - had a gut feeling it would literally never end
Mushi-shi - actually finished the first season, but was still kinda dull for my tastes
Kimetsu no Yaiba - Good, looked great visually, but some characters annoyed the shit out of me and the plot was something I've seen done a little better in other series.
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My hero academia
a toxic fanbase
and a declining story

Uji_Gintoki_Bowl said:
There are no extremes for me (aka below a 5 for a highly rated show) except Overlord s1, which I think I gave a 4. Other than that, I gave Durarara!!, Toradora, Charlotte, and Haikyuu!! all a 6. I enjoyed them, but they didn't hit the same way I expected them to.


Damn Durarara was fucking epic homie
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@Nikiforova


a person might be color blind but that does not change the factual color of the thing

a person might look at the reflection of something in a lake or look at things through rose colored glasses and that might change their perception of the object in question but it does not change what the object actually is



and something being a scientific fact does not stop it from being a statment .

if i say "X-thing is Y " then that is by definition a statement .
whenever the statement is incorrect or a scientific fact does not change that "X-thing is Y" is a statement



as for the statement .
the statment that bothered me was when you said that madoka is just a normal mahou shoujo story + the blood .
sry if i didnt make that clear.
you said that you oversimplified it.
i was disagreeing with that statement



for a more interesting discussion. ( and i can totally see why and how you would disagree with me on that one)

i believe in the objective Quality of things

for example .

>your name < is a better story then "tom goes to the store and buys poop"

i think/ assume/hope ( i really hope ) we agree on that

however we do have different biases and preferences.
we look through different colored glass essentially .

so while we might be able to determine on a number of factors that your name is the better story we are propably not going to come to a 100% understanding .

i loved kimi no na wa but once i noticed the plotholes they really started bugging me .
i dont think its plausable that taki spend so much time in mitsuhas body without noticing that they are 3 years appart even thou he uses her phone every day.


i think/ assume/hope we agree on that the idea that " kimi no na wa would be a better story if it didnt have the plotholes that it has "

its a well established story telling technique to have a plot that isnt contradictory to itself .

however .
due to our biases we might have different views on how much that even matters

the objective truth still exists but we can not quantify it in numbers or anything equivalent because there are a million aspects that go into storytelling

its kind of like philosophy



I don't really need a science lesson here, I just hoped that you'll get my point.

I'm gonna try to explain my reasoning behind that statement. Let's see:

Naruto is about a boy and a beast that lives in his tummy.
One Piece is about pirates that can't swim.
Gintama is about Jack off all trades.
Katekyo Hitman Reborn is about mafia.
Bleach is about a boy who can see ghost.
Monster is about a serial killer.
Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu is about war that takes place in space.
Trigun is about a gunslinger.


Ofcourse, we all know that all of these series are so much more than that, but if I wanted to explain them in one sentence, I would probably say something like this. If someone asked me to explain Madoka in one sentence I would say ' it's a mahou shojo with a little bit of blood here and therem with a darker theme.' That's the meaning behind my first statement and I hope this clears it once and for all.


I don't really see it as a philosophy. It's a way of thinking that most of us find valid and logical. Arguably, you can find a person who's preferences are leaning towards 'Tom
goes to the store and buys poop.' As long there is person who has that kind of preferences, his 'objectively good' and our 'objectively good' are fundamentaly different and you can just debate about one of them being superior to another.


the science part is nessesary to establish that color is not subjective.
the color of a thing is a measurable fact

yeah but isnt it unfair to summarize something based on something that exactly misses the point of what that thing is about ?
its like saying the recent joker movie is about a dude and his job of being a funny clown.
yes that is something that is true but it directly misses the point of what the movie is actually about .
i get that you made an oversimplified version of the story but the comparison was pretty unfair to what the story actually is

anyone can choose toms 1 sentence story if they want to but i highly doubt they could make a good argument for it being better.
storytelling is something that has been analysed for over 2000 years and many ideas of people like Aristotle are still being taught in universities to this day.

There are pretty good arguments for why some techniques in storytelling work out and others dont .

Writing is an art form and just as any other art form it can be innovated upon but it can also be analyzed and understood.
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Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica

Loli dying is somehow revolutionary.


we actually just went over this so if you want to find out that madoka is more then >loli ded< its your lucky day XD
edit: though to be fair you cant understand madoka when you drop it at episode 3 XD that is where the deconstruction begins


Fair enough. For me dropped shows are not dropped forever. I'll give it another shot.
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paperip said:
CuteAssTiger said:


we actually just went over this so if you want to find out that madoka is more then >loli ded< its your lucky day XD
edit: though to be fair you cant understand madoka when you drop it at episode 3 XD that is where the deconstruction begins
Fair enough. For me dropped shows are not dropped forever. I'll give it another shot.


i think you might get quite a lot out of it since you also enjoy Fate/Zero wich is written by Gen Urobuchi .

when they marketed Madoka they were litteraly keeping the authors identity a secret because Urobuchi is known for writing really deep and depressing shit.
He also wrote song of saya wich is some really scary romance+horror stuff

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Steins;Gate - the art it worked for Black Rock Shooter, but not here. The story is fine, but I hated the male protagonist. Season 2 was better, but even with the changes, the anime just had an approach to story telling that didn't click with me.

Gintama - If only it wasn't a combination of comedy and parody. Sadly it would be sacrilegious of me to watch only the episodes I care about and leave out 3/4 of the anime.

Mob Psycho 100 - people say its visuals are a master piece. But what I see is the but ugly characters. The story is interesting, but the comedy/parody portions bring it down to shit.
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Overlord, boring story.. The main is too boring & why Human is so weak in there.
Saitama, Idk what make me dont want to watch it.
High-School-DxD, I just hate Issei..
Infinite Stratos, why Male so underpowered
Date a live, just nope....
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Steins;Gate
Gintama
Mob Psycho 100

Story telling doesn't click with me.
Parody/Comedy is a deterrent for me.
Ugly character design and shitty comedy.
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Overlord, just plain boring & human is so underpowered.
Trinity seven, too op for my taste
High-School-DxD, I just hate Issei with his personality..
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one punch man
clannad
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It's not even because it's bad, but probably Oregiaru. I'm most likely gonna try watching it again later (after I watch some other series first), but I watched the first two episode and felt that I didn't truly feel invested in it. Like, I liked what I did watch of it, but it's not my favorite, and I just couldn't really get into it. I don't really know why. Maybe when I resume watching it I'll like it more, but for now I'm putting it on hold.
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Boulderfist_ogre said:
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when they marketed Madoka they were litteraly keeping the authors identity a secret because Urobuchi is known for writing really deep and depressing shit.



Lol, that's kinda funny. Although how was that possible?



the official author for madoka is/was Magia Quarted but that is a group consisting of director Akiyuki Shinbou, writer Gen Urobuchi, the original character designer Ume Aoki, and the producer Atsuhiro Iwakami.

that wasnt specified at the time the anime started airing thou .
so people genuinely didnt know was pretending to be a cute normal story
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Angel Beats. It was like number nine here on MAL so I was like "That many people can't be wrong, right?" Then I watch it and thought "What, have they never felt emotion before?" Total let down. It wasn't deep or insightful, it's a metaphor for moving on.
“When people see some things as beautiful, other things become ugly.
When people see some things as good, other things become bad.”
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