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Jul 18, 2020 10:58 AM

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Protag > failed to talk back against snide remarks from ex-gf said with obvious purpose to humiliate him among a bunch of people, and resulted in disappointing the girl who's covering for him

Also the same ex-gf > "I had no idea you had such a manly side to you."

Me:


Either the definition of "manly" I know is completely wrong or the protag and the ex-gf don't know what they're talking about. Still enjoying the show tho. But as far as I can tell, Mizuhara is carrying the show hard.

Jul 18, 2020 11:20 AM
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Rest easy, just watch,, i can assure you, this anime won't be just another shallow 'harem' story with minimal and vague 'feelings' development from the characters (unlike b*okuben, this is far better i think) ;)

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Jul 18, 2020 11:54 AM

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Not a bad second episode, made me laugh a lot more than the first one.

I still dislike the main guy, so it's all about the voice actors here for me lol.


can i ask why you dislike the mc? Hes a pretty realistic person IMO. Hes about 20 and his first girlfriend was someone with a fake personality, he has never seen her manipulative side until after she broke up with him but it seems she still wants him or at least to toy with him. He is attached to the only girlfriend hes ever had (or at least the false cheery personality part of her). Before seeing that manipulative side you could see he still wants Mami back and Ichinose isnt even his real girlfriend. Cant see why you dislike this so much, its better than the MC from school days or Domestic Girlfriend.


You just spoiled me the personality of the girl. Thanks, manga reader.

I dislike the MC because he's constantly paying money to a girl that she obviously likes because she's pretty, and he's not even getting sex for it. I know the whole premise of the show is about this, but it just doesn't work with me.

Furthermore, he's still attached to her ex while spending money on a girl he's interested about. I fail to see the logic of the protag at all.
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Jul 18, 2020 12:32 PM

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ayaan692 said:
nanimeanswhat said:
I really like this anime so far. I thought this anime would be trash at first. Yeah it seems very predictable but it's fun to watch and both Kazu and Chizu are lovely mains. I just hope it doesn't turn out to be every single girl on the block falling for the MC (and doing fanservice) kind of story.

Also for Mami: Begone!


But...... neither of them are shoujo, fam...

wtf how is kazu a lovely main?
im seriously judging you right now

He feels natural, he's fun and he's grandma's boy. I enjoy watching a loser like him much more than I enjoy an edgy asshole like Hachiman or a perfect bishounen shoujo lead. He has a lot of room for character development and I'm in for it.
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Jul 18, 2020 12:35 PM
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The MC is a horny virgin guy who got a chance to date a hot girl (Mami), so now he is dancing on her hand on the off chance that he may get to be with her again. Sounds familiar, does it? If you have never done something like that, at least you should be able to name one or two friends who did. Those friends who get back with whonever cheats on them, or who are still in love with a person who mistreats them... it is definitely something not too rare in real life. And that is why the MC is believable

But still, even in real life, it is something painful to watch. I got distanced from a friend due to something like this, I could not bear with his attitude towards a girl. So, definitely the hate is also justified. If there is character development for him on the series, that will be definitely something that will improve my opinion of this anime.
Jul 18, 2020 12:57 PM
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The opening is good, I liked most of the episode. But man, Kazuya. I don’t wanna say it but LORD ALMIGHTY HES SUCH A SIMP. Literally he’s the plain definition of one, and not gonna lie some of the actions he made were pretty awkward, AAGH. I’m deciding to dive into the manga, so I’ll be back next week to give my thoughts too! I’ve heard a lot about Kazuya, hopefully the next episode isn’t as cringe with him...
3/5
Jul 18, 2020 12:59 PM
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Don't get your hope up for the anime. You're probably not find it in the anime since it only have 12ish eps. The manga is current on its climax arc and the mc is showing some character development.

I say most of the manga readers here watch this series for their favorite girl like Chizuru or that one other girl <.< being bought into life with voice acting.
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Jul 18, 2020 1:03 PM
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nanimeanswhat said:
ayaan692 said:

wtf how is kazu a lovely main?
im seriously judging you right now

He feels natural, he's fun and he's grandma's boy. I enjoy watching a loser like him much more than I enjoy an edgy asshole like Hachiman or a perfect bishounen shoujo lead. He has a lot of room for character development and I'm in for it.
nanimeanswhat said:
ayaan692 said:

wtf how is kazu a lovely main?
im seriously judging you right now

He feels natural, he's fun and he's grandma's boy. I enjoy watching a loser like him much more than I enjoy an edgy asshole like Hachiman or a perfect bishounen shoujo lead. He has a lot of room for character development and I'm in for it.

you are right he feels natural
a natural creep
i couldnt care less about his development the show didnt gave me a single reason why i should
a mc should be someone we should be either able to identify with or aspire to be.
he is neither of those
that way we wont have any connection with him whatsoever i didnt feel a single thing when mami was insulting him it was more of a "hmm what a looser he dserves it" that also makes the female mc look like an idiot for defending a disgusting creature like him
terrible mc

the people who do identify with him should actually get mental help and dont waste their time watching anime
they have bigger issues to solve
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Jul 18, 2020 1:19 PM

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i love the op so much and ofc it's done by peggies. the ed felt really familiar then i remembered the melody/start of it sounded like zzz (nichijou's ed 1).

i usually don't enjoy these type of stuff but why is it getting better the more i watch? lmao

chizuru and mami's seiyuus do a really good job presenting their characters. i wonder why mami got defensive to her friends about kazuya but said all those stuff at the restaurant.

starting to really dislike kazuya but that's how it is with every anime like this.

his grandma is so cute though.
Jul 18, 2020 1:26 PM

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@carsanlop
Don't get your hope up for the anime. You're probably not find it in the anime since it only have 12ish eps. The manga is current on its climax arc and the mc is showing some character development.

I say most of the manga readers here watch this series for their favorite girl like Chizuru or that one other girl <.< being bought into life with voice acting.


is the manga worth reading?
Jul 18, 2020 1:36 PM

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ayaan692 said:
nanimeanswhat said:

He feels natural, he's fun and he's grandma's boy. I enjoy watching a loser like him much more than I enjoy an edgy asshole like Hachiman or a perfect bishounen shoujo lead. He has a lot of room for character development and I'm in for it.
nanimeanswhat said:

He feels natural, he's fun and he's grandma's boy. I enjoy watching a loser like him much more than I enjoy an edgy asshole like Hachiman or a perfect bishounen shoujo lead. He has a lot of room for character development and I'm in for it.

you are right he feels natural
a natural creep
i couldnt care less about his development the show didnt gave me a single reason why i should
a mc should be someone we should be either able to identify with or aspire to be.
he is neither of those
that way we wont have any connection with him whatsoever i didnt feel a single thing when mami was insulting him it was more of a "hmm what a looser he dserves it" that also makes the female mc look like an idiot for defending a disgusting creature like him
terrible mc

the people who do identify with him should actually get mental help and dont waste their time watching anime
they have bigger issues to solve

"a mc should be someone we should be either able to identify with or aspire to be. " That's your own taste, your own opinion. Why do I have to identify with an MC when this isn't even a slice-of-life? Why would I aspire to be a fictional character when I'm already satisfied with who I am? What's that have anything to be with a mere hobby of watching anime. It's not that deep. I certainly don't aspire to be a serial killer but I like Light. Should I hate him as well? If all you seek for in a nice MC are those 2 traits your taste is quite shallow.

Plus why are you being triggered by a single comment, mate? Buzz off.
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Jul 18, 2020 1:49 PM
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yuuzth said:
xkazutox said:
@carsanlop
Don't get your hope up for the anime. You're probably not find it in the anime since it only have 12ish eps. The manga is current on its climax arc and the mc is showing some character development.

I say most of the manga readers here watch this series for their favorite girl like Chizuru or that one other girl <.< being bought into life with voice acting.


is the manga worth reading?


It hard to say. But if you're one of those who read Nisekoi/BokuBen/5Toubun/OreSuki and like waifu shipping, it definitely manga for you. If it's not, then I suggest you avoid it.

Even for the manga, the series I mentioned above is much better than this. People who read this are probably the people who ran out of romcom titles to read.
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It's a drop for me. I don't usually drop shows so early but this one is not just boring, it's also cringy
Jul 18, 2020 2:45 PM

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The premises of the first episode are confirmed, very funny episode, Mami can give a further shock to the situation, the protagonist is clumsy at the right point, but I hope he has an improvement in the course of history. I hope the show continue like this, among the new releases it's definitely the one that like me the most.
Jul 18, 2020 3:24 PM

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Can anyone go ahead and spoil me and tell me if Mami-chan still likes shun?


Jul 18, 2020 4:25 PM
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two words: "BITCHES" man !!
Jul 18, 2020 4:29 PM
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I cant take more of this.
Jul 18, 2020 5:04 PM

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Mami-chan is so toxic to him.
Jul 18, 2020 5:16 PM

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Hell, what an horrible attitude from Mami. You can break up with someone but shaming that person in front of a friendly crowd... what's the point ? Humiliating your ex doesn't make you a good person, I was honestly happy to see Chizuru taking Kazuya's defense, even if he didn't join her in that move.

I thought their relation might evolve as a love/romance rivalry but I don't believe it right now. Wait & see I guess, but I already chose my side !
Jul 18, 2020 5:36 PM

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This uses a load of forced character settings to keep the premise going which is cringey to watch but between them I can see nice characters and some quality scenes. If this grows off those unnatural elements this could get good, if it doesn't I'm probably dropping midway.
Jul 18, 2020 6:39 PM
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nanimeanswhat said:
ayaan692 said:

you are right he feels natural
a natural creep
i couldnt care less about his development the show didnt gave me a single reason why i should
a mc should be someone we should be either able to identify with or aspire to be.
he is neither of those
that way we wont have any connection with him whatsoever i didnt feel a single thing when mami was insulting him it was more of a "hmm what a looser he dserves it" that also makes the female mc look like an idiot for defending a disgusting creature like him
terrible mc

the people who do identify with him should actually get mental help and dont waste their time watching anime
they have bigger issues to solve

"a mc should be someone we should be either able to identify with or aspire to be. " That's your own taste, your own opinion. Why do I have to identify with an MC when this isn't even a slice-of-life? Why would I aspire to be a fictional character when I'm already satisfied with who I am? What's that have anything to be with a mere hobby of watching anime. It's not that deep. I certainly don't aspire to be a serial killer but I like Light. Should I hate him as well? If all you seek for in a nice MC are those 2 traits your taste is quite shallow.

Plus why are you being triggered by a single comment, mate? Buzz off.

I just told you why its imoortant
We cant connect with the mc if neither of those things apply to him thats basic writing 1o1
In case of light we could identify with his philosophy that the world is rotten and Criminals should get punished
Obviously his actions itself were horrible but on a basic level it was very easy to understand were he was coming from
This guy on the other hand jerking off to his ex getting smashed by an other dude
Not many people will be able to connect with him on that
And can you actually explain why this sort of behaviour appears "natural" to you
Again seriously judging you here
Jul 18, 2020 6:58 PM
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Fuck Mami, Me n my homies hate Mami
Jul 18, 2020 7:03 PM

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I loved this episode, this is by far the best anime of the season!

Mami best girl jk

Jul 18, 2020 7:05 PM
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Man, this episode was one bad situation after another for Kazuya. Or I guess good situations depending on how you see it.
Jul 18, 2020 7:36 PM

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This show has a nice concept but I don't see it going anywhere with a mindless blob like Kazuya as the protagonist.
Jul 18, 2020 7:40 PM

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Is it just me or do none of these characters have any redeeming qualities? So far they all seem very unlikable imo.
Jul 18, 2020 8:09 PM

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Sigh. Kazuya so annoying as usual
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Jul 18, 2020 8:27 PM

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The dance the girls does in the OP,are those reference to Tiktok? MC is worse than Yuuki Rito.
Jul 18, 2020 8:41 PM

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I love the OP song. As expected from the same band who sang "Kimi no Sei".

Chizuru definitely best girl so far, for having to put up with all of Kazuya's shit. Kazuya is truly spineless, lol.

Thanks, person who gave me this on another site a long time ago, lol.
Jul 18, 2020 9:09 PM
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I’m a mami fan, just masochistic like that. Come at me bro
Jul 18, 2020 9:15 PM
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So basically Mami isn't into simps, but is just in the homewrecking biz? Or was she upset he never made the move?
Jul 18, 2020 9:54 PM

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This anime has been trash imo so far, and it’s all bc of the stupid trash-bag that is Kazuya. I can understand if he was just shy or a bit of a wimp like some mcs, but he’s got no redeeming quality whatsoever. If there was even a generic mc that had a bit of a spine this could’ve been enjoyable, but this just might become my first dropped anime in a long time because of him.
Jul 18, 2020 10:04 PM
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Except for kazuya's damned personality the anime is really good... I wanted to read the manga but I'll wait...
Jul 18, 2020 10:23 PM
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Horrible show. Watching it for guilty pleasure and horrible-ness.
Jul 18, 2020 11:17 PM
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Woah! They're schoolmates. And they're also neighbors! What a coincidence! Hahaha. Best Girl Chizuru is so kind and intelligent, she pretended to be Kazuya's girlfriend for Kazuya's Granny's sake and she even defended Kazuya against that annoying ex-girlfriend. Chizuru is indeed an angel sent by the heavens.
Jul 19, 2020 12:09 AM

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Oh Boiii.......I love these kinds of Animes
Perfect Episode!!!
But I don't want Mami-chan to interfere with our main leads :P ;P
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Jul 19, 2020 12:25 AM

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I mean all the girls from this show are hella fine af xD

BUT

A story that will revolve around over simping girls is a big meh for me as a person who loves romcom animes. Especially the mc ultra simping to his ex because shes just pretty and has a hot body (thighs) lol.Maybe in upcoming eps he will change idk well see though.

Its just ep 2 and early to judge this anime i did enjoyed it but too much focus on simping girls.

On the side note i love the OP and ED song
and that OP is one of the best this season.
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Jul 19, 2020 1:50 AM

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In konosuba, aqua always giving troubles to kazuma.. But now, in kanokari, kazuma is the one who always giving the troubles to aqua.. Really, i cant to not relate this series to konosuba (lol)

In a certain scene, kazuya friends (kibe & shun) implying that ichinose inviting kazuya to follow her cult (reference to axis cult in konosuba), that scene make me laugh a bit..

But well, beside that, too many scene that painful to watch, like in kazuya's grandma scene, solo act performed by kazuya (lol), and especially that scene when mami badmouthing kazuya and kazuya didn't response (in positive way) to ichinose's denial... F man...

Now, i can understand to those who want to drop this series cuz the MC is unreliable...
But for me, i want to see em animated till the end...


Jul 19, 2020 2:41 AM

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Fuck the MC, he is the worst MC in the history of MC fuck it fuck all of it this anime is horrible just fuck it




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Jul 19, 2020 2:59 AM

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MC tilted me in manga. seeing him in anime tilts me even more. Near the end of the opening where there are arrows and he's running around in circle. Well he really is just running around in circle if you know what I mean haha....still entertaining to watch at least.
Jul 19, 2020 5:12 AM

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Kazuya sure has a way with words... not

also Mami needs to be crucified
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I don't give a flying fuck how beta this dude is, listening to aoi yuuki almost made me ejaculate.

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Jul 19, 2020 6:26 AM

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Two episodes in and I now understand why everyone hates Kazuya. Dude just let his ex run her mouth on him. Even when Chizuru stood up for him he still took Mami's side. How garbage dude.

Usually I dislike characters like Chizuru but I am really starting to enjoy her a lot. She takes her job serious which is a good thing but she still does things to make people happy even at the risk of her job.

She looked so hot just coming over to Kazuyas place just to bring food. Holy crap I just loved her clothes and style.
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Jul 19, 2020 6:45 AM

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Welp, as if loser of a "boyfriend" protagonist Kazuya has forgotten Chizuru, this will have more antics and shenanigans, and I hate to say this, but TMS Entertainment is doing a heck of a good job adapting this trash manga.

Massive fan of the peggies, and this OP is no exception, batshit good and funky.

Fool me once, a dating app, and now, fool me twice, living side-by-side? The young adults' grandmothers sure are very, VERY lively and playing into the girlfriend game...to Chizuru's chagrin. Unfortunately, this game of lies will have to go on...

As for ex-girlfriend and feeling manipulator Mami, she sure was a disaster in his life before, and now into college as well (being nothing more than fap material).

Man, I'd love Kazuya's friends for giving him ACTUALLY usable advice, even at the expense of comedy. But their appointment for a mixer...including Mami in the mix, what an intense dinner confrontation.

Mami sure doesn't give two flying ducks about Kazuya, but Chizuru standing up for his sorry ass truly speaks volumes about her character, amidst a wimpy feeling. As long as this girl lives, she'll only manipulate his feelings even more.

Let this journey ride on...
Jul 19, 2020 7:04 AM

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cute OP! & kazuya's grandma is so funny

really liking the art style & character designs, it's simple but i love the colours and i love the girls' fashion their style's so cute!

kazuya tho..... right after chizuru appeared and tried to pacify his grandma at his place, he couldn't find it in himself to say thanks? he's so rude & clueless

that awkward dinner scene was funny tbh they should have just made up some excuse at the start and left so they didn't have to sit through that. mami was so catty tho but she was probs just projecting since he joined them (and brought chizuru) unannounced

will keep watching! characters are interesting tho MC is really unbearable at times but then again i guess there is some sort of realism to the way he is.....







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what is the appeal of this show.


When you end each episode you are thankful you're not Kazuya.

But I know this series will be a big hit for the same reason that the manga is: it has the cutest girls so otakus swallow it hook line and sink.

Still watching cause I'm curious to see Ruka's voice and specially how they'll handle best girl Sumi.
Jul 19, 2020 7:58 PM

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The ending seemed to begin to justify why many people criticized the manga in this anime by the protagonist. But leaving that aside, what a wonderful anime, it's all very good, it's a show. More and more surprising me, more and more getting me instigated, more and more showing what a good director is capable of.



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yea i didn't like this one as much. i'm a bit worried with where this series is gonna go but i'll continue watching
aaahh you wouldn't ready for the next eps then XD, As a manga reader i'm watching this just because of main heroine lmao. Can't stay with how cringe the main hero is. Even though they(the studio) did faithful adaptation to the manga
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badvillainy said:
yea i didn't like this one as much. i'm a bit worried with where this series is gonna go but i'll continue watching
aaahh you wouldn't ready for the next eps then XD, As a manga reader i'm watching this just because of main heroine lmao. Can't stay with how cringe the main hero is. Even though they(the studio) did faithful adaptation to the manga


I hope the humor then get as good as the first episode or better, honestly i kinda of disliked the 2nd episode do to the aptitude that MC displays, in particular during the dinner.

I understand the feeling bad after someone dump you, but not to jerking off by a picture of her (not even a sexy one) and specially just been that obseses.

Also, he tanking her to the dinner was an asshole move. He just wanna look good and didnt care about the possibility that people would recognize her, wich is specially worst after she saved him the other night with him grandmother.
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So this is what it's like to absolutely dislike an MC who is the pinnacle of beta cucklord.
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