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| Well, since they annouced 13 episodes, I was fearing that : lore will be reduced to its minimum, and it's gonna be very fast paced. The real problem here is that a one cour is too short and a two cour to long to adapt correctly the part one. And due to the 5 years ellipse between part 1 and 2 and how they already rush things in one episode, it's pretty obvious they're going for the full first part. Thus most of the world building, and more quiet moment will probably be rushed/erased. It's a shame, the whole world building is one of the strong point of ToG. I think the way they deal with the Bam Lero-ro conversation will tell us what we can exactly expect. Rearrange the way lore is given is not a problem, but there is so much to push in those 13 episodes I doubt they will have time for that. I fear that show won't please anyone. Most of the fans of the webcomic are really suspicious, and new viewer will see it as some random show. I can't blame them. It will miss the whole point of making the webcomic more known. It's feel like it's gonna be a failed opportunity. |
AcelyK said: These people be quoting me without understanding the context of my post, thinking fans really be forcing them to like the series when they're not. Oh and why are you here if I assume you don't like the series? That's a rhetorical question.Based on my experience with that manhwa the assessment was actually pretty on the money. Way more so than those reviews lmao. It's always battle shounen fans overhyping this shit you'd think you were about to read on the third coming of Christ Mod Edit: Removed baiting. |
DeadlyRavenApr 10, 2020 7:12 AM
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ToG25thBaam said: El-Random said: Nope, just don't go around claiming the hype is unjustified because you've seen like, 3 episodes max. People have different opinion and that's perfectly fine, just don't go at the fans who've read at least the entire first saga vs your opinion based on the entirety of 2 chapters worth. If you've read the entire first saga and still think it's trash, that's your opinion but at least it's far more valid than thinking the series is trash after watching 1 episode, don't you think?If the show didn't bother giving us that context then why should I actively look for it? Do I have to do that for every show? I won't judge the entire series and based on the 1st episode, and from what I've seen in episode 1, I won't be moving forward with it, I don't have the time nor the interest of keeping up with a show because of the promise that it might get good a few episodes down the line. With that being said the 1st episode was a mess; cliche as fuck story, non-existent character background, laughable dialogue, bad art designe. Or wait... do I need to finish the series to say that too? Wait, I thought we were discussing the Anime? So what you're saying is that I need to read the entire series so that way it covers all of the plot holes that the Anime doesn't bother to explain? Alright gotcha. Mod Edit: Modified quote of edited post. |
DeadlyRavenApr 10, 2020 7:11 AM
El-Random said: Are you that inept in reading comprehension? Where in my response did I say that? Did you even read or try to understand my point of view, when you're the one asking?Wait, I thought we were discussing the Anime? So what you're saying is that I need to read the entire series so that way it covers all of the plot holes that the Anime doesn't bother to explain? Alright gotcha. Why do I even bother with weekly discussions on MAL anymore when I knew MAL-base have been terrible for years. |
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| The manhwa only got better and better since it started, so I’m hoping this anime will live up to its potential. I liked the first episode, minus a few things like how they call it non-regular and not irregular. (Yeah I’m nitpicking) I’m also fine with the animation. It fits the style of the manhwa in the early chapters, but since the art has improved A LOT since it started, I’m thinking it might be difficult to adapt the later chapters with the same animation artstyle. Well, I guess it would be years away anyway. Solid first episode - it only gets better from here on. |
AcelyK said: Episode discussion. People share their thoughts. If you can't handle different opinions you shouldn't be here lol These are my responses btw so far, just in case you didn't read my post at all, Yall can think the episode was mediocre without bringing up the hype which is unrelated to the pilot episode and more so for the events to come. Imagine coming to the first episode of the series and complain about how it hasn't met the hype that the fans had for the series. All stories take time to develop, that much should be given. People have different opinion and that's perfectly fine, just don't go at the fans who've read at least the entire first saga vs your opinion based on the entirety of 2 chapters worth. If you've read the entire first saga and still think it's trash, that's your opinion but at least it's far more valid than thinking the series is trash after watching 1 episode, don't you think? There's a reason why I didn't pick the comments criticizing the episode but the comment claiming the hype is unjustified based on the first episode. Reading comprehension people, it's important to know what you're talking about. |
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ToG25thBaam said: El-Random said: Are you that inept in reading comprehension? Where in my response did I say that? Did you even read or try to understand my point of view, when you're the one asking?Wait, I thought we were discussing the Anime? So what you're saying is that I need to read the entire series so that way it covers all of the plot holes that the Anime doesn't bother to explain? Alright gotcha. Why do I even bother with weekly discussions on MAL anymore when I knew MAL-base have been terrible for years. Your point of view is that you think it's too early to call this series trash, I get it. My point of view is that this episode was a mess and showed a lot of signs of the series as a whole being generic trash. Will it be generic trash at the end? I don't know and, certainly, I won't stick around to watch it, because this episode was bad enough to make me drop this show. |
Zeusico said: It seems that after the fan reactions, they already changed it. It's funny because the exact same thing happened when Line Webtoon began the official translation, they tried to use another word, before they used irregular anyway due to fan reaction.The manhwa only got better and better since it started, so I’m hoping this anime will live up to its potential. I liked the first episode, minus a few things like how they call it non-regular and not irregular. (Yeah I’m nitpicking) |
AcelyK said: zwolf12 said: There was no characterization going on, so I'm not sure how you are able to rate the characters. The only character that got some characterization was Yuri, and we only got to see her brash side, without any context about her position or how she usually behaves. Bam (or Yoru) is basically a dear in the headlights so far and the only other characterization was for the people shown at the start of the second test and was very flimsy at best. Tower of God is a slow build up story, and they had to decide if they went the fast route or the slow route and they picked the rocket route for episode 1. I would have preferred the show as a slow burn similar to something like Ascendance of a Bookworm, but for that approach they clearly needed more than 12-13 episodes and that was probably a risk that was too expensive for them to take. The attempts at characterization were so bad people are actually saying there was none lmao I'm dying The reviews are right 10/10. masterpiece There was some characterization, but you can only get so much out of nonverbal communication and we just didn't have people really talking with each other, so I don't get what people expect. I don't take people serious that rate something early on, but I also dislike people judging way too fast. This first episode was clearly intended to throw the viewer and the main character into the whole tower situation without much explanation and that is what that episode did. We can discuss if they did a good or bad job with it, but criticizing the episode for something that it wasn't even supposed to do is stupid or do you guys run into a store to argue that the banana you bought doesn't shine bright enough? |
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El-Random said: That's fine, no one is forcing you to stick around. Just don't go into any Tower of God threads later on claiming the series is trash because you've seen 1 episode, just because you don't like people hyping the series up, like the first guy I quoted.Your point of view is that you think it's too early to call this series trash, I get it. My point of view is that this episode was a mess and showed a lot of signs of the series as a whole being generic trash. Will it be generic trash at the end? I don't know and, certainly, I won't stick around to watch it, because this episode was bad enough to make me drop this show. Also my argument honestly wasn't about that. The first guy I quoted claim that this series which fans have hyped up is a generic shounen trash, which it may or may not be, but my point is that, fans like myself are hyped for the upcoming arcs, not the first chapter. How are you guys gonna claim that the hype is unreasonable when the hype parts haven't even been adapted yet. |
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zwolf12 said: AcelyK said: The attempts at characterization were so bad people are actually saying there was none lmao I'm dying The reviews are right 10/10. masterpiece There was some characterization, but you can only get so much out of nonverbal communication and we just didn't have people really talking with each other Thank god we didn't have people talking with each other, because the times they did, the dialogue was laughable. zwolf12 said: so I don't get what people expect. A decent first episode, which we didn't get. zwolf12 said: I don't take people serious that rate something early on, but I also dislike people judging way too fast. Tell that to the people already reviewing this with a 10/10. |
| The animation is fine but the story was rushed. You guys should read the manhwa because there is so many scenes that was did not appeared on the anime. That is really sucks and felt sad for you guys. |
Turtles_Hunter said: Zeusico said: It seems that after the fan reactions, they already changed it. It's funny because the exact same thing happened when Line Webtoon began the official translation, they tried to use another word, before they used irregular anyway due to fan reaction.The manhwa only got better and better since it started, so I’m hoping this anime will live up to its potential. I liked the first episode, minus a few things like how they call it non-regular and not irregular. (Yeah I’m nitpicking) They must have something against that word lol. But probably a good call on their part. Besides, it just sounds better :p |
| wel the webtoon is quite popular..people will surely pick it up |
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| I don't see why the episode has only a 53% of 5/5 votes, I think it was really good! I'm definitely gonna watch this anime till the end If I had to rate based on this episode only, it's a solid 8/10, but I won't rate it just yet And both the OP and ED are really good IMO |
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| The opening; visual wise was kinda weird But the the Op & Ed song its self it's really good imo I can see why people are kinda thrown off by the first episode But I enjoyed it I will for sure keep watching |
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| Well, this was a slow start, it looks interesting feels like I'll enjoy this. |
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| everything was good, but the opening was way too bad for tog. boring and annoying. animation for me is perfect idk. |
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| I don't mind the style they went for. I just hope that they don't change trough many different styles in later seasons. The episode in it self was ok. I've read the manhwa, and I really love the series. So hopefully this will be a anime that I can recommend to someone instead of the manhwa. |
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Veldin461 said: -Blue_Bird- said: Definitely still too early to say any of this. We have no idea about future episodes. What they'll cut next, what details they'll change, if the story will suffer, etc I literally said "as it is now", implying that yes, it is not a done deal yet. If you didn't purposly take out the context out of my quote, it would be best... But whatever. Let's see how it goes. I read your whole post and then cut it down without realizing it would be a problem. It wasn't exactly purposeful. That's my bad. I knew what you meant. No need to be defensive, wasn't trying to attack you Just to make it clear I wasn't trying to address a strawman, here's where I'm coming from: the 1st episode already has a mixed reception here, and it's cut out basic things like characterization, foreshadowing, etc, even key plot details in the major scene on the 1st floor. IMO, as it is now I feel like the show would have to actually improve rather than stay the same for me to recommend it over the webtoon, and only time will tell. As it is now I just don't see how the show is better in every way, besides audiovisually. It's fair to not have liked S1 that much, but many people do like it—there are qualities they can point to and praise in S1 of the webtoon that aren't showing here yet. Maybe they never will. That's all. |
-Blue_Bird-Apr 1, 2020 1:17 PM
| So, the first episode huh.. It was pretty darn good. The art style is unique and actually it's quite good too. The characters got introduced where the girl Rachel is tryin' to climb the Tower while the boy Bam just wants to see her one more time and is tryin' to climb the tower. Then we found out that the sword is actually a WAIFU and Yuri (another waifu candidate) was introduced who was pretty cute. On the second floor, we got ourselves into a battle royale where last 200 will survive outta 400 people which was again quite awesome to see. Also a white haired boy got introduced whom i guess is gonna help the MC. Excited for the next episode. . The opening was fire as what you would expect from 'Kevin Penkin'. Really loved it. |
Pre_YumApr 1, 2020 1:15 PM
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| Absolutely dislike OP and ED Do not really like any of the characters so far. Animation is not oustanding or great by any means. Despite all that I still wanna watch the 2nd episode, am I retarded? |
| 1st episode , nice colour palette , nice animation , concept of climbing a tower isn't new but still cool, the opening is very cool (in Korean?) ost and ending as well , I'm going with a solid 9/10 making a 5/5 for this first episode , good job ! |
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| Wow, harsh comments everywhere on this topic Loved everything about that first episode ! I like the OP and the ED (OPs visuals are...kinda meh, I admit, however I love the song) Really like the animation, kinda reminds me of Shinsekai Yori The scenario seems kinda interesting too (a bit rushed however) I think the two characters that appeared at the end of the episode are gonna be the travelling companions of the MC I admit I almost shouted of joy when I saw Kevin Penkin did the OST, and boy the first episode didn't deceive me we already had wonderful tracks |
DamuzenApr 1, 2020 1:32 PM
| For an opening episode to a new story. I have to say that was rather fantastic! |
 To have you, Id give a billion lives A-Chan best girl |
| Getting Hunter x Hunter vibes, unfortunately that includes being front loaded with a ton of information at the start. Events don't flow well, like we go from the Rabbit vaguely explaining the Tower to the Princess vaguely explaining why the test is unfair. Also, Rachel disappearing and Bam getting grabbed into the Tower is extremely confusing to me. Like what the heck was that? In the Manhwa, there's sometime between Rachel leaving and Bam finding himself in the Tower. Those last 5 minutes are great tho. |
| Whew, looking good. They're not playing with the pacing. π² |
| Hmm so is this going to be a 12 ep divided seasons ? lame... anyway i found the animation kinda good, i was thinking of reading the manhwa but i said no after i saw it will get an anime adaption, ehh guess i will read it later after all, VA's fit well, let's see how this one evolves. |
fireball4011 said: Getting Hunter x Hunter vibes Same here. This defentitly had me interested. Pretty average so far tho. Had some pacing issues. But knowing Kevin Penkin is on this project makes this worth watching even more. |
| I enjoyed the first episode so far and I'm looking forward to seeing more of it next week. I also enjoyed the soundtrack too. |
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This isn't the manwha discussion tho. This is the discussion for the first episode of the anime which was trash. |
El-Random said: This isn't the manwha discussion tho. This is the discussion for the first episode of the anime which was trash. No it wasn't, it's very far from being "trash". This isn't how a "trash" anime looks like. |
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-Blue_Bird- said: Veldin461 said: I literally said "as it is now", implying that yes, it is not a done deal yet. If you didn't purposly take out the context out of my quote, it would be best... But whatever. Let's see how it goes. I read your whole post and then cut it down without realizing it would be a problem. It wasn't exactly purposeful. That's my bad. I knew what you meant. No need to be defensive, wasn't trying to attack you Just to make it clear I wasn't trying to address a strawman, here's where I'm coming from: the 1st episode already has a mixed reception here, and it's cut out basic things like characterization, foreshadowing, etc, even key plot details in the major scene on the 1st floor. IMO, as it is now I feel like the show would have to actually improve rather than stay the same for me to recommend it over the webtoon, and only time will tell. As it is now I just don't see how the show is better in every way, besides audiovisually. It's fair to not have liked S1 that much, but many people do like it—there are qualities they can point to and praise in S1 of the webtoon that aren't showing here yet. Maybe they never will. That's all. I never said you were trying to attack me. I just noticed that you quoted just the part of my comment that fit into your response, ignoring the part that made that same response kinda redundant. Dunno why defending my point there is a bad thing, I also din't have any hill intent about it and sorry if it felt like it. But going back on topic, I admit that I have a biased opinion on all this. Tbh, the first season and a fair chunk of the beggining of season 2, some parts aside, was a chore to read(and with this, I'm not saying I hated it. If I really didn't like it at all I wouldn't have kept reading it. I only didn't find it to be anything outstanding) and that's why I never recomended ToG to anyone even though I like it so much now. Imo, the anime having a fast pace only helped, and I don't think much was sacrificed besides some comic relief. If episode 2 comes back to Yuri, there should be no problem and if it doesn't, well, as I said, nothing is set in stone yet. There is no debate on how, visually, it is a huge step up, though. It's like night and day and it's so much more enjoyable to see ToG's beggining like this. |
Veldin461Apr 1, 2020 2:20 PM
Miyannar said: El-Random said: This isn't the manwha discussion tho. This is the discussion for the first episode of the anime which was trash. Then, if you only judge an anime and DROPPED it for its first episode, then I think that your opinion is garbage. I'm sorry to say it like that. And you say it's trash then explain yourself maybe ? Bc telling smth is trash and not explaining yourself, is just proving that your opinion is biased. Op/Ed were good, OST too. Art is special but is true to the manwha. Pace sucks ok. VA is actually quite good. I think your opinion is trash too, but that's not the point, we can have different opinions. My point is that the show has a clear flaw if your best point to dismiss the criticism of a show is that the "manwha is such a blast". We're talking about episode 1 of the show, not about the source material. |
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