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Jun 17, 2019 7:55 PM
#101
KindUnicorn said: Ryuk9428 said: Well here's the thing. Men have been pumped with this self-improvement bullshit for a long time. It didn't work, women just set the bar higher. At some point, you got to stop reaching for a high ass bar and say for fuck's sake lower that thing. Ryuk9428 said: Another feminist squawking about "mens' entitlement" and repeating "women don't owe you anything" as an obviously pre-prepared talking point along with useless advice I've already heard a thousand times is never gonna bring that side of me out though. The fact that your UNFUCKABLE IN YOUR CURRENT FORM means that it's YOUR job to make the changes necessary to get someone to want to fuck you, not THEIR job to fuck your creep ass simply because you want it Ryuk9428 said: No woman deserves respect just for owning a vagina, they earn respect by being the kind of woman that a guy wants to see raising his children. Ryuk9428 said: Believe it or not, as a girl, you do need to bring something to the table. Men are not going to go to any effort for you unless you promise them something they want and you show that that something they want, is, in-fact, obtainable. Men get really fucking tired of women who like teasing them without giving them anything real. If they put in the effort that you're asking of them, then you need to deliver on your promise to them or there is no reason to continue pursuing this relationship. No does mean no but its pretty bitchy to tease a guy and make him go through all that effort when you were just gonna say no. At this point your beginning to sound like a DANGEROUSLY ENTITLED CLINICALLY UNFACKABLE MISOGYNIST which is just sad The fact that your resulting to misogyny, ad hominem and strawman arguments and the fact that you are refusing to hear any and all advices means that you don't care about reason and logic anymore so this conversation is over. Have a fun time with your body pillow collection Girls doing what you're doing is what created this persona. You didn't like the nice guy so here you go, well the nice guy is gone. That's what you asked for right? You're never going to convince guys by shouting "you're wrong!" People see the world for how it is, and eventually the Animal Farm tactic of just trying to pressure people to deny reality won't work when reality is so far from the image you're trying to project. Instead of complaining about guys who criticize the way modern women behave. Prove them wrong with your actions. Lots of guys mention that the only way to attract women is to be an asshole. This mean's women's behavior is what is creating assholes because men will do what they think is going to get them laid. You wouldn't have this many assholes running around if they thought it was ruining their chances with girls. So you are directly responsible for creating misogynistic assholes by continuously rejecting nice guys. If you dislike hearing guys level these accusations at you so much then you need to prove them wrong with your behavior, not just by shouting at them. To do that, you need to go fuck a nice guy. At that point, they can't refute you, you won the argument. Girls do fuck nice guys, you don't have to be an asshole. But as long as you continue to just shout "you're wrong" while your behavior contradicts your words, nobody is going to believe you. |
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Jun 17, 2019 7:59 PM
#102
Veronin said: Not that hard... BS. You should have mentioned this in your post: Tinder is not that difficult if you choose good pictures and don't have any red flags in your bio. I would also recommend buying Tinder Plus and paying for a few boosts, and using the boosts during weekends and busy times of the day (around ~8-9 PM). I was probably getting 20 matches a day by doing this - a couple dates a week. But as the man you have to be the one to message them first and ask them out. "Not really. I'm 183cm, or 6'0, which allows me to tower over most people in Asia." https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1640877#msg51634802 Of course you would have bothered to mention it on your Tinder profile... |
EzekielJun 17, 2019 8:06 PM
Jun 17, 2019 8:12 PM
#103
NthDegree said: RobertBobert said: NthDegree said: Ryuk9428 said: No, see, I USED to be a nice guy. I might become one again if I meet a nice girl. I do have a tendency to go through dramatic personality shifts. Another feminist squawking about "mens' entitlement" and repeating "women don't owe you anything" as an obviously pre-prepared talking point along with useless advice I've already heard a thousand times is never gonna bring that side of me out though. No woman deserves respect just for owning a vagina, they earn respect by being the kind of woman that a guy wants to see raising his children. Believe it or not, as a girl, you do need to bring something to the table. Men are not going to go to any effort for you unless you promise them something they want and you show that that something they want, is, in-fact, obtainable. Men get really fucking tired of women who like teasing them without giving them anything real. If they put in the effort that you're asking of them, then you need to deliver on your promise to them or there is no reason to continue pursuing this relationship. No does mean no but its pretty bitchy to tease a guy and make him go through all that effort when you were just gonna say no. If you're not ready, say you're not ready yet, but no means you're done. Right now, prostitutes and strippers are offering me a better deal than the normal girls I encounter. Until that changes, I see no need to change myself. Uhm, wasn't this supposed to be about someone who's so unattractive they don't get matches to begin with? I'm not sure how demanding women to change is gonna solve the issue. You can always change yourself, while complaining does nothing. In general, the person in lower social standing has to work more to get a relationship started. It's not about gender but your attractiveness. Sadly, there are not enough 10/10 guys around for "women not having to work". As far as I understand, he is annoyed not by the fact that he “should work on himself”, but by the fact that women are freed from similar things. Something like complaints about attempts to put men in a dependent position in a relationship, if I understood him correctly. So... Can you tell me exactly how "women are freed from similar things"? I'm sure my female friends would be elated to hear how they can get a 10/10 man without doing anything. Please elaborate. A 10/10 guy is different. Girls think they "work for it" because the only guys they are going for are extremely high on the attractiveness scale or because they aim for "the most popular guy in school" or the guys from the top fraternities at college. I've been in mixed groups before where you'll have 8 people, 3 guys and 5 girls. And you would think this means that its easy for the guys right? Not at all. What happens is that three of those five girls will all go for one guy and then the other two don't go for anybody. Guys have to work for, literally, any girl. Forget about models, and super beautiful girls. Guys who are really not unattractive even or are above average in looks have to meet insane standards set, by completely average looking women. I've even seen quite a few seriously unattractive girls, like a 3/10 on the looks scale acting choosy. Guys don't really get choosy until they're an 8/10. |
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Jun 17, 2019 8:35 PM
#104
@Peaceful_Critic Being friends first is a good way to get to know each other first without the pressures of dating. For chemistry specifically though, that can happen through friendship, but I find that there's a lot of times where girls won't go for a guy because they think "I don't have enough chemistry with him." When really, that chemistry has to be built. Love is like a concoction of various different factors and if you don't date for a little while first, you're missing some key ingredients to really make love happen. Its not that love cannot happen before dating somebody, but I think in the end, its much slower than it needs to be. That's why most people don't really do it that. @effincrackhead See why do girls always assume that the guys complaining about not being able to get girls is some hideous monster who hasn't showered in weeks. I'm a hygienic freak. I shower twice a day and make sure to meticulously wash myself in both of those times, I wash my hands frequently, I always apply deodorant at the beginning of the day. 300 pounds? I don't even weigh half of that. My brother can't find a girlfriend either. He's got a really good job with a six figure salary, his own house, his own car, he's a 7 in looks, doesn't have great social skills but his are definitely above mine. And he accomplished all this in his fucking mid-20s. Why the fuck can't he find a girlfriend? If he can't find a girlfriend, then there's something wrong with the way most girls are choosing men. There's nothing wrong with what men are doing. My brother is a huge catch, I mean a huge fucking catch. And he's been single for a decade now, and definitely not by choice. |
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Jun 17, 2019 9:01 PM
#105
"your friend" lol you still haven't changed try grindr my dude |
Jun 17, 2019 10:30 PM
#107
Your friend, right... First off OP, what about yourself can you improve? You say you aren't that attractive, and hey, I get you. There isn't a whole lot we can do about the face we are born with. But there are things that we can change. If you are over weight, then get in shape. Put on some muscle. What about fashion? Are you putting a lot of thought into the clothes you wear, the way you dress? How is your hygiene? Are you clean shaven or rocking a neck beard? Are you showering every day, using deodorant, making sure your breath don't stink, etc? There are lots of ways you can improve your appearance. Yes, it takes effort. Especially to get into shape. But why would someone who isn't willing to put effort into themselves be able to attract the opposite sex? Second is personality. This is the hardest part. If you improve the way you look, then you might gain some self confidence, but even then it is difficult. You need to be willing to talk to people. You need to be conscious of what you say, and how you say it. Get used to talking to girls. Don't talk to them thinking, how can I get this girl to be my girlfriend. Just talk and get a feeling if you click or not. If there is a girl that you are able to talk with, ask her if she wants to go out for something to eat. Keep it casual. If she says no, then who cares? It's not like you are confessing your love to her or anything, it isn't the end of the world. If she says yes, then cool. You go out for something to eat, maybe you have a good time, maybe you don't. Either way, you gain experience, and it will become easier to ask out other girls, and you'll get better at talking to them. Don't become obsessed with any one girl. Don't give off strong "I am a virgin who desperately wants a girlfriend" vibes. Just take it easy. If you aren't going to school, or there aren't any girls at work, then consider looking into events or groups in the community you could join. You could join some fucking church thing and try meeting people, even if you aren't religious. Who cares? Don't use Tinder. It is just going to make you upset. Tinder and similar services aren't for average looking (or below average) awkward virgin dudes to find relationships. Most importantly, don't expect to get a girlfriend in a month or so. You are playing the long game. Desperation isn't going to get you anything. |
Jun 17, 2019 10:47 PM
#108
deg said: i was curious but ye now i remember who OP is he got a lot of thread making history about his single life that he hates so much https://myanimelist.net/forum/search?q=&u=Crzy_Minus&uloc=2&loc=11 sounds like an incel or one in the making |
Jun 17, 2019 11:00 PM
#109
Does he have decent photos up and an interesting bio? I hear an interesting bio that explores your interests and includes a bit of humor can do wonders. |
Jun 17, 2019 11:05 PM
#110
Ryuk9428 said: Is it slower to develop love through friendships? It's probably worth it either way, as I said before dating has the implication that you love that person already and I don't like the lack of standard you were trying to talk me into earlier(seems dishonest to the said person I would date). You are taking dating way too lightly in my opinion. Though it seems as if on average girls do have a more romantic idea of dating then most guys, so this is probably a sex or gender-related difference. Being friends first is a good way to get to know each other first without the pressures of dating. For chemistry specifically though, that can happen through friendship, but I find that there's a lot of times where girls won't go for a guy because they think "I don't have enough chemistry with him." When really, that chemistry has to be built. Love is like a concoction of various different factors and if you don't date for a little while first, you're missing some key ingredients to really make love happen. Its not that love cannot happen before dating somebody, but I think in the end, its much slower than it needs to be. That's why most people don't really do it that. |
Jun 17, 2019 11:25 PM
#111
Peaceful_Critic said: Ryuk9428 said: Is it slower to develop love through friendships? It's probably worth it either way, as I said before dating has the implication that you love that person already and I don't like the lack of standard you were trying to talk me into earlier(seems dishonest to the said person I would date). You are taking dating way too lightly in my opinion. Though it seems as if on average girls do have a more romantic idea of dating then most guys, so this is probably a sex or gender-related difference. Being friends first is a good way to get to know each other first without the pressures of dating. For chemistry specifically though, that can happen through friendship, but I find that there's a lot of times where girls won't go for a guy because they think "I don't have enough chemistry with him." When really, that chemistry has to be built. Love is like a concoction of various different factors and if you don't date for a little while first, you're missing some key ingredients to really make love happen. Its not that love cannot happen before dating somebody, but I think in the end, its much slower than it needs to be. That's why most people don't really do it that. I don't think it does carry that implication for most people. Not in the early stages anyway. Pretty much every sitcom I watch has episodes where a couple date for a few months and somebody always says "I love you" too soon and it freaks the other person out until that person realizes they are actually in love too. |
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Jun 17, 2019 11:33 PM
#112
Ryuk9428 said: I don't watch sitcoms, but in every cartoon I watch the confessions comes before the dating part, if the dating part comes at all. We need other opinions on this.Peaceful_Critic said: Ryuk9428 said: Being friends first is a good way to get to know each other first without the pressures of dating. For chemistry specifically though, that can happen through friendship, but I find that there's a lot of times where girls won't go for a guy because they think "I don't have enough chemistry with him." When really, that chemistry has to be built. Love is like a concoction of various different factors and if you don't date for a little while first, you're missing some key ingredients to really make love happen. Its not that love cannot happen before dating somebody, but I think in the end, its much slower than it needs to be. That's why most people don't really do it that. I don't think it does carry that implication for most people. Not in the early stages anyway. Pretty much every sitcom I watch has episodes where a couple date for a few months and somebody always says "I love you" too soon and it freaks the other person out until that person realizes they are actually in love too. |
Jun 17, 2019 11:42 PM
#113
Peaceful_Critic said: Ryuk9428 said: I don't watch sitcoms, but in every cartoon I watch the confessions comes before the dating part, if the dating part comes at all. We need other opinions on this.Peaceful_Critic said: Ryuk9428 said: Is it slower to develop love through friendships? It's probably worth it either way, as I said before dating has the implication that you love that person already and I don't like the lack of standard you were trying to talk me into earlier(seems dishonest to the said person I would date). You are taking dating way too lightly in my opinion. Though it seems as if on average girls do have a more romantic idea of dating then most guys, so this is probably a sex or gender-related difference. Being friends first is a good way to get to know each other first without the pressures of dating. For chemistry specifically though, that can happen through friendship, but I find that there's a lot of times where girls won't go for a guy because they think "I don't have enough chemistry with him." When really, that chemistry has to be built. Love is like a concoction of various different factors and if you don't date for a little while first, you're missing some key ingredients to really make love happen. Its not that love cannot happen before dating somebody, but I think in the end, its much slower than it needs to be. That's why most people don't really do it that. I don't think it does carry that implication for most people. Not in the early stages anyway. Pretty much every sitcom I watch has episodes where a couple date for a few months and somebody always says "I love you" too soon and it freaks the other person out until that person realizes they are actually in love too. I always saw the confession as marking the beginning of the dating process. But yes, we do need other opinions. |
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Jun 17, 2019 11:44 PM
#114
Ryuk9428 said: Okay, I'll make a thread in CD about it than to gather more opinions on the topic. Peaceful_Critic said: Ryuk9428 said: Peaceful_Critic said: Ryuk9428 said: Is it slower to develop love through friendships? It's probably worth it either way, as I said before dating has the implication that you love that person already and I don't like the lack of standard you were trying to talk me into earlier(seems dishonest to the said person I would date). You are taking dating way too lightly in my opinion. Though it seems as if on average girls do have a more romantic idea of dating then most guys, so this is probably a sex or gender-related difference. Being friends first is a good way to get to know each other first without the pressures of dating. For chemistry specifically though, that can happen through friendship, but I find that there's a lot of times where girls won't go for a guy because they think "I don't have enough chemistry with him." When really, that chemistry has to be built. Love is like a concoction of various different factors and if you don't date for a little while first, you're missing some key ingredients to really make love happen. Its not that love cannot happen before dating somebody, but I think in the end, its much slower than it needs to be. That's why most people don't really do it that. I don't think it does carry that implication for most people. Not in the early stages anyway. Pretty much every sitcom I watch has episodes where a couple date for a few months and somebody always says "I love you" too soon and it freaks the other person out until that person realizes they are actually in love too. I always saw the confession as marking the beginning of the dating process. But yes, we do need other opinions. |
Jun 18, 2019 7:42 AM
#115
Ryuk9428 said: NthDegree said: RobertBobert said: NthDegree said: Ryuk9428 said: No, see, I USED to be a nice guy. I might become one again if I meet a nice girl. I do have a tendency to go through dramatic personality shifts. Another feminist squawking about "mens' entitlement" and repeating "women don't owe you anything" as an obviously pre-prepared talking point along with useless advice I've already heard a thousand times is never gonna bring that side of me out though. No woman deserves respect just for owning a vagina, they earn respect by being the kind of woman that a guy wants to see raising his children. Believe it or not, as a girl, you do need to bring something to the table. Men are not going to go to any effort for you unless you promise them something they want and you show that that something they want, is, in-fact, obtainable. Men get really fucking tired of women who like teasing them without giving them anything real. If they put in the effort that you're asking of them, then you need to deliver on your promise to them or there is no reason to continue pursuing this relationship. No does mean no but its pretty bitchy to tease a guy and make him go through all that effort when you were just gonna say no. If you're not ready, say you're not ready yet, but no means you're done. Right now, prostitutes and strippers are offering me a better deal than the normal girls I encounter. Until that changes, I see no need to change myself. Uhm, wasn't this supposed to be about someone who's so unattractive they don't get matches to begin with? I'm not sure how demanding women to change is gonna solve the issue. You can always change yourself, while complaining does nothing. In general, the person in lower social standing has to work more to get a relationship started. It's not about gender but your attractiveness. Sadly, there are not enough 10/10 guys around for "women not having to work". As far as I understand, he is annoyed not by the fact that he “should work on himself”, but by the fact that women are freed from similar things. Something like complaints about attempts to put men in a dependent position in a relationship, if I understood him correctly. So... Can you tell me exactly how "women are freed from similar things"? I'm sure my female friends would be elated to hear how they can get a 10/10 man without doing anything. Please elaborate. A 10/10 guy is different. Girls think they "work for it" because the only guys they are going for are extremely high on the attractiveness scale or because they aim for "the most popular guy in school" or the guys from the top fraternities at college. I've been in mixed groups before where you'll have 8 people, 3 guys and 5 girls. And you would think this means that its easy for the guys right? Not at all. What happens is that three of those five girls will all go for one guy and then the other two don't go for anybody. Guys have to work for, literally, any girl. Forget about models, and super beautiful girls. Guys who are really not unattractive even or are above average in looks have to meet insane standards set, by completely average looking women. I've even seen quite a few seriously unattractive girls, like a 3/10 on the looks scale acting choosy. Guys don't really get choosy until they're an 8/10. I really hate it when people use their gender as an excuse why they aren't getting laid. The majority of people are straight and being a straight couple requires both genders. Your chances of getting in a relationship are roughly equal for the both genders. Just because you personally have low standards please don't equate that to all men. Someone might even argue that's misandry... |
Jun 18, 2019 8:12 AM
#116
Ryuk9428 said: KindUnicorn said: Ryuk9428 said: Well here's the thing. Men have been pumped with this self-improvement bullshit for a long time. It didn't work, women just set the bar higher. At some point, you got to stop reaching for a high ass bar and say for fuck's sake lower that thing. Ryuk9428 said: Another feminist squawking about "mens' entitlement" and repeating "women don't owe you anything" as an obviously pre-prepared talking point along with useless advice I've already heard a thousand times is never gonna bring that side of me out though. The fact that your UNFUCKABLE IN YOUR CURRENT FORM means that it's YOUR job to make the changes necessary to get someone to want to fuck you, not THEIR job to fuck your creep ass simply because you want it Ryuk9428 said: No woman deserves respect just for owning a vagina, they earn respect by being the kind of woman that a guy wants to see raising his children. Ryuk9428 said: Believe it or not, as a girl, you do need to bring something to the table. Men are not going to go to any effort for you unless you promise them something they want and you show that that something they want, is, in-fact, obtainable. Men get really fucking tired of women who like teasing them without giving them anything real. If they put in the effort that you're asking of them, then you need to deliver on your promise to them or there is no reason to continue pursuing this relationship. No does mean no but its pretty bitchy to tease a guy and make him go through all that effort when you were just gonna say no. At this point your beginning to sound like a DANGEROUSLY ENTITLED CLINICALLY UNFACKABLE MISOGYNIST which is just sad The fact that your resulting to misogyny, ad hominem and strawman arguments and the fact that you are refusing to hear any and all advices means that you don't care about reason and logic anymore so this conversation is over. Have a fun time with your body pillow collection Girls doing what you're doing is what created this persona. You didn't like the nice guy so here you go, well the nice guy is gone. That's what you asked for right? You're never going to convince guys by shouting "you're wrong!" People see the world for how it is, and eventually the Animal Farm tactic of just trying to pressure people to deny reality won't work when reality is so far from the image you're trying to project. Instead of complaining about guys who criticize the way modern women behave. Prove them wrong with your actions. Lots of guys mention that the only way to attract women is to be an asshole. This mean's women's behavior is what is creating assholes because men will do what they think is going to get them laid. You wouldn't have this many assholes running around if they thought it was ruining their chances with girls. So you are directly responsible for creating misogynistic assholes by continuously rejecting nice guys. If you dislike hearing guys level these accusations at you so much then you need to prove them wrong with your behavior, not just by shouting at them. To do that, you need to go fuck a nice guy. At that point, they can't refute you, you won the argument. Girls do fuck nice guys, you don't have to be an asshole. But as long as you continue to just shout "you're wrong" while your behavior contradicts your words, nobody is going to believe you. Modern western women are not worth it. The only good thing they are good for is pumping and dumping. This is the reason why so many men are walking away and becoming mgtow. Also never take any advice from women They will say how they want a nice guy but in reality they go for the bad boy. Until it is time to settle down then they search for beta billy to help them raise their bastard children and wonder where are all good men gone. I can predict many cats in this woman future. |
AncapAnimeGodJun 18, 2019 8:19 AM
Jun 18, 2019 8:47 AM
#117
Cneq said: @OP not too sure what to tell you man. No matter how you slice it relying on anything to keep your happiness will always lead to a bad outcome. Whether that be games, drugs or love/social interaction. The only way to solve the issue is to appreciate what you have and carry on with whatever path life has given you. Trying too hard to get something [in a unhealthy way] or relying too much on something is a self-destructive cycle that will most likely never give you want you want in the end. Any type of social media should be avoided if you're friend is in that state of mind. Borrowed money or state funds to a gambling addict is social media to a person who craves love/social interaction, both may give immediate relief [more gambling short term/shallow social interaction, hits on tinder etc] but both will not fix the problem and ruin the person in the end. wait why you gotta bring me into this :/ |
Jun 18, 2019 8:59 AM
#118
Crzy_Minus said: ...he's been feeling suicidal about this. He's also been lonely for a very long time, not too long ago he installed the app and has had no luck at all with it. Crzy_Minus said: ...he's been gaining more weight lately and he probably w*nks a lot. Not always but when it happens, he will start feeling destructive inside and start fantasying about being with any girl, and not a super hot girl really, he just wants a normal girl. ...He's also desperate for any sort of hook-ups, he never had any experience with relationships and is indeed a virgin. ...Should he be considered a weirdo for having these thoughts? Should he seek mental help? Should he really just end his life and misery with him? He's also friendless and very shy in person... Bara_no_Uta said: If he's suicidal, he needs professional support (therapy). Those kinds of thoughts/feelings usually are indication of deeper things a person is struggling with than romantic loneliness, and those deeper things aren't going to be resolved through a relationship. The relationship could distract from them, but isn't going to cure somebody's depression or whatever the case may be. At worst, they might even risk entering into a really unhealthy relationship. jal90 said: ...I don't even know why are we having a discussion on Tinder tactics if OP's friend is suicidal. His mental health is a more urgent matter to deal with right now. ^^^ ^^^ ^ ^^ ^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^ ^ ^^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^ ^ ^^ ^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^ ^^^ ^ ^ ^ ^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ ^^ ^ ^ ^^^^^^^ this is very clearly a mental health issue if people took the time to read, but of course it has to be about how to use tinder, how to get a girlfriend, how to make yourself attractive etc etc like it's going to solve anything if the person in question gets a girlfriend or gets laid. a lot of men are in dangerous situations when it comes to these things because they can be afraid to open up or seek help. there's a lot of pressure on them to be manly and follow certain norms, meaning it's very easy to bottle things up if you're a bit weak or emotional to begin with. when you develop these kinds of tendencies as a teenager or young man, they can bleed into your adulthood since the problem feeds into itself like an ouroboros. this is just the wrong place for this thread. i hope this person gets better soon. |
Jun 18, 2019 1:00 PM
#119
OP or OP's 'friend': just seek help, your biggest problem right now isn't not getting romantic affection, it's dealing with suicidal ideation. I hope these lists can help you if you're really desperate: here and here. AncapAnimeGod said: Modern western women are not worth it. The only good thing they are good for is pumping and dumping. This is the reason why so many men are walking away and becoming mgtow. Also never take any advice from women They will say how they want a nice guy but in reality they go for the bad boy. Until it is time to settle down then they search for beta billy to help them raise their bastard children and wonder where are all good men gone. I can predict many cats in this woman future. Damn,you didn't say anything about looksmatch, black pill and your jawline, how will I be able to tell if you're truly an incel or not? I'm confused. |
Jun 18, 2019 1:13 PM
#120
Aastra343 said: OP or OP's 'friend': just seek help, your biggest problem right now isn't not getting romantic affection, it's dealing with suicidal ideation. I hope these lists can help you if you're really desperate: here and here. AncapAnimeGod said: Modern western women are not worth it. The only good thing they are good for is pumping and dumping. This is the reason why so many men are walking away and becoming mgtow. Also never take any advice from women They will say how they want a nice guy but in reality they go for the bad boy. Until it is time to settle down then they search for beta billy to help them raise their bastard children and wonder where are all good men gone. I can predict many cats in this woman future. Damn,you didn't say anything about looksmatch, black pill and your jawline, how will I be able to tell if you're truly an incel or not? I'm confused. I am not an incel I am a MGTOW. I was explaining why western women are not worthed and why I mostly pump and dump them. |
Jun 18, 2019 1:25 PM
#121
Tell him to try the same gender, maybe he'll have some luck |
Jun 18, 2019 1:32 PM
#122
AncapAnimeGod said: You aren't really a MGTOW if you pursue a fake relationship with girls in order to use them as sexual objects, and throw them out the second you get what you want. You are by definition supposed to stay away from girls and dating them if you are a MGTOW:Aastra343 said: OP or OP's 'friend': just seek help, your biggest problem right now isn't not getting romantic affection, it's dealing with suicidal ideation. I hope these lists can help you if you're really desperate: here and here. AncapAnimeGod said: Modern western women are not worth it. The only good thing they are good for is pumping and dumping. This is the reason why so many men are walking away and becoming mgtow. Also never take any advice from women They will say how they want a nice guy but in reality they go for the bad boy. Until it is time to settle down then they search for beta billy to help them raise their bastard children and wonder where are all good men gone. I can predict many cats in this woman future. Damn,you didn't say anything about looksmatch, black pill and your jawline, how will I be able to tell if you're truly an incel or not? I'm confused. I am not an incel I am a MGTOW. I was explaining why western women are not worthed and why I mostly pump and dump them. "Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW /ˈmɪɡtaʊ/) is an anti-feminist,[3] mostly online community[4][5] advocating for men to separate themselves from society, and particularly to eschew heterosexual marriage and cohabitation.[3] MGTOW have "...vowed to stay away from women, stop dating and not have children".[6]" The link was for that [6], and the whole quote came from wiki. |
Jun 18, 2019 2:25 PM
#123
If he's feeling suicidal then he should get help for that first. I know it's easier said than done, but it'd be for the best. Getting suicidal over not being able to get a girlfriend isn't the most attractive personality trait anyway, so it'll be in his best interests to get better. Even i get a little down about having not having a boyfriend, but i'm not going to kill myself over it. |
Jun 18, 2019 2:27 PM
#124
Peaceful_Critic said: AncapAnimeGod said: You aren't really a MGTOW if you pursue a fake relationship with girls in order to use them as sexual objects, and throw them out the second you get what you want. You are by definition supposed to stay away from girls and dating them if you are a MGTOW:Aastra343 said: OP or OP's 'friend': just seek help, your biggest problem right now isn't not getting romantic affection, it's dealing with suicidal ideation. I hope these lists can help you if you're really desperate: here and here. AncapAnimeGod said: Modern western women are not worth it. The only good thing they are good for is pumping and dumping. This is the reason why so many men are walking away and becoming mgtow. Also never take any advice from women They will say how they want a nice guy but in reality they go for the bad boy. Until it is time to settle down then they search for beta billy to help them raise their bastard children and wonder where are all good men gone. I can predict many cats in this woman future. Damn,you didn't say anything about looksmatch, black pill and your jawline, how will I be able to tell if you're truly an incel or not? I'm confused. I am not an incel I am a MGTOW. I was explaining why western women are not worthed and why I mostly pump and dump them. "Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW /ˈmɪɡtaʊ/) is an anti-feminist,[3] mostly online community[4][5] advocating for men to separate themselves from society, and particularly to eschew heterosexual marriage and cohabitation.[3] MGTOW have "...vowed to stay away from women, stop dating and not have children".[6]" The link was for that [6], and the whole quote came from wiki. Why did you pick news article and not official mgtow website is beyond me but her is the definition of mgtow by official mgtow site: MGTOW - Men Going Their Own Way - is a statement of self-ownership, where the modern man preserves and protects his own sovereignty above all else. It is the manifestation of one word: "No". Ejecting silly preconceptions and cultural definitions of what a man is. Looking to no one else for social cues. Refusing to bow, serve and kneel for the opportunity to be treated like a disposable utility. And, living according to his own best interests in a world which would rather he didn't. In other words . . . common sense for men. https://www.mgtow.com/ And here is an even better explanation of what mgtow is by sandman There is nothing in there as you can see that states that I can't sleep with or date women. Also you saying that I use them as sex objects offends me, after all those women chose VOLUNTARILY to sleep with me. They are also receiving pleasure from the intercourse just like I am. Or are you simply trying to imply that women don't enjoy sex. Also isn't no string attached sex what hookup culture is all about, women are doing it all the time and your not judging them so why judge me. And if you hate hookup culture take it up with feminists since they are responsible for the creation of that culture. |
Jun 18, 2019 2:40 PM
#125
AncapAnimeGod said: Ah, so there are different levels to this group, and you are the 2nd level, correct? I didn't know they had a website(didn't know they were that big either), so I used a news article in which direct quotes were taken by them.Peaceful_Critic said: AncapAnimeGod said: Aastra343 said: OP or OP's 'friend': just seek help, your biggest problem right now isn't not getting romantic affection, it's dealing with suicidal ideation. I hope these lists can help you if you're really desperate: here and here. AncapAnimeGod said: Modern western women are not worth it. The only good thing they are good for is pumping and dumping. This is the reason why so many men are walking away and becoming mgtow. Also never take any advice from women They will say how they want a nice guy but in reality they go for the bad boy. Until it is time to settle down then they search for beta billy to help them raise their bastard children and wonder where are all good men gone. I can predict many cats in this woman future. Damn,you didn't say anything about looksmatch, black pill and your jawline, how will I be able to tell if you're truly an incel or not? I'm confused. I am not an incel I am a MGTOW. I was explaining why western women are not worthed and why I mostly pump and dump them. "Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW /ˈmɪɡtaʊ/) is an anti-feminist,[3] mostly online community[4][5] advocating for men to separate themselves from society, and particularly to eschew heterosexual marriage and cohabitation.[3] MGTOW have "...vowed to stay away from women, stop dating and not have children".[6]" The link was for that [6], and the whole quote came from wiki. Why did you pick news article and not official mgtow website is beyond me but her is the definition of mgtow by official mgtow site: MGTOW - Men Going Their Own Way - is a statement of self-ownership, where the modern man preserves and protects his own sovereignty above all else. It is the manifestation of one word: "No". Ejecting silly preconceptions and cultural definitions of what a man is. Looking to no one else for social cues. Refusing to bow, serve and kneel for the opportunity to be treated like a disposable utility. And, living according to his own best interests in a world which would rather he didn't. In other words . . . common sense for men. https://www.mgtow.com/ And here is an even better explanation of what mgtow is by sandman There is nothing in there as you can see that states that I can't sleep with or date women. Also you saying that I use them as sex objects offends me, after all those women chose VOLUNTARILY to sleep with me. They are also receiving pleasure from the intercourse just like I am. Or are you simply trying to imply that women don't enjoy sex. Also isn't no string attached sex what hookup culture is all about, women are doing it all the time and your not judging them so why judge me. And if you hate hookup culture take it up with feminists since they are responsible for the creation of that culture. I'm saying you are treating them as sexual objects because you clearly don't care for them and are only using them for sexual pleasure. Unless they agreed to date you for the same purpose in which case that'll be fine. However, I don't see the purpose of going on a date, or why you will dump them if you two had a purely sexual relationship. Also, going to point out that if a girl did the same, I would judge them in the same light as you, but, unlike you, I would call out a particular person and not stereotype 50% of the population. |
removed-userJun 18, 2019 3:01 PM
Jun 19, 2019 12:52 AM
#126
@KindUnicorn @Peaceful_Critic @NthDegree @AncapAnimeGod and @Kayn I'm just gonna address everybody in this. Wow what a train-wreck of a thread this has been. At the time we were talking, it had been about six months I would say since any girl had touched me. I just went to a strip club though and I feel much much better now. I've got a very high sex drive and its got its upsides and downsides. One of the downsides is that, when I am sexually frustrated, I become seriously mentally unstable and angry. Its like I'm an entirely different person. I don't know if it works this way for girls too, or if I'm even a minority among guys, but for some people, sex is like a brain vitamin. If you go a long time without getting that vitamin, your mind just isn't right. Something happens to it, that's why incels get so angry and hateful. Depriving the soldiers of sex was actually an ancient war strategy because the generals knew it would make the soldiers very aggressive. But I thought I should mention that the way somebody acts when they are going through depression triggered by sexual frustration is not who they really are in reality. I'm sorry y'all had to see that incredibly nasty side to my personality but this thread was a major wake up call and I realized something had to be done. I'm sorry if I was mean to you, but I can assure you that however you felt as a result of what I said, I felt 10x worse on the inside while I was saying it and that's why I was lashing out. Since this sort of got brought up. I do believe in traditional gender roles. But that's because I was raised in a traditional family and I saw how good that was for everybody. For me, my mom was always there for me, it was good for my mom because she didn't have to undergo the stress of having a job and worrying about it, and it was good for my dad because he didn't have to worry about the stress of childcare. Other families I saw where both parents worked, the parents were always so stressed out and didn't ever have time for themselves because they were exhausted trying to juggle to burdens of working and raising children at the same time. Seeing this, I decided I wanted to make enough money that my future wife doesn't have to get a job. As for the topic. Please show some compassion for guys who get "desperate and needy." Even if its unattractive, there's a physical reason why its happening. Sex is really important to some people, and they can't treat it casually or with a laissez faire attitude because it literally has a direct impact on their mental health. You're not obligated to have sex with them, but please take this into account when you interact with guys like that. Part of my anger came from the fact that I felt a lot of girls tend to get very disdainful towards guys that don't have an easy time getting sex. Very few guys have easy access to sex, some guys never really learn how to get it. But I do think monogamous relationships are much healthier than the current attitude that a lot of people have. Pretty much everyone agrees that sex is better in a relationship. But in my case, even though I dream of being in a monogamous relationship. I do feel like I need strip clubs while I am single because I just can't go completely without anything and the interactions I have with strippers are much more comfortable and relaxing than the interactions I have in bars and clubs. Anyway, I'm sorry about what you saw there earlier, but there's a much better guy in here than the one you saw. |
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Jun 19, 2019 1:38 AM
#127
AncapAnimeGod said: Peaceful_Critic said: AncapAnimeGod said: Aastra343 said: OP or OP's 'friend': just seek help, your biggest problem right now isn't not getting romantic affection, it's dealing with suicidal ideation. I hope these lists can help you if you're really desperate: here and here. AncapAnimeGod said: Modern western women are not worth it. The only good thing they are good for is pumping and dumping. This is the reason why so many men are walking away and becoming mgtow. Also never take any advice from women They will say how they want a nice guy but in reality they go for the bad boy. Until it is time to settle down then they search for beta billy to help them raise their bastard children and wonder where are all good men gone. I can predict many cats in this woman future. Damn,you didn't say anything about looksmatch, black pill and your jawline, how will I be able to tell if you're truly an incel or not? I'm confused. I am not an incel I am a MGTOW. I was explaining why western women are not worthed and why I mostly pump and dump them. "Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW /ˈmɪɡtaʊ/) is an anti-feminist,[3] mostly online community[4][5] advocating for men to separate themselves from society, and particularly to eschew heterosexual marriage and cohabitation.[3] MGTOW have "...vowed to stay away from women, stop dating and not have children".[6]" The link was for that [6], and the whole quote came from wiki. Why did you pick news article and not official mgtow website is beyond me but her is the definition of mgtow by official mgtow site: MGTOW - Men Going Their Own Way - is a statement of self-ownership, where the modern man preserves and protects his own sovereignty above all else. It is the manifestation of one word: "No". Ejecting silly preconceptions and cultural definitions of what a man is. Looking to no one else for social cues. Refusing to bow, serve and kneel for the opportunity to be treated like a disposable utility. And, living according to his own best interests in a world which would rather he didn't. In other words . . . common sense for men. https://www.mgtow.com/ And here is an even better explanation of what mgtow is by sandman [yt]iVXdxaaRiAU[yt] There is nothing in there as you can see that states that I can't sleep with or date women. Also you saying that I use them as sex objects offends me, after all those women chose VOLUNTARILY to sleep with me. They are also receiving pleasure from the intercourse just like I am. Or are you simply trying to imply that women don't enjoy sex. Also isn't no string attached sex what hookup culture is all about, women are doing it all the time and your not judging them so why judge me. And if you hate hookup culture take it up with feminists since they are responsible for the creation of that culture. MGTOW is basically the same premise as separatist feminism but with males instead of females as the biggest difference. https://www.feministcurrent.com/2015/11/30/18995/ |
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Jun 19, 2019 2:56 AM
#128
Your friend should have two accounts , one with doggos with him and the other with a cats. Bc most ppl fall into being either a cat or dog person! |
Jun 19, 2019 9:09 AM
#129
It's simple. Stop using Tinder. He can very well come to MAL. |
Gg |
Jun 19, 2019 9:11 AM
#130
traed said: AncapAnimeGod said: Peaceful_Critic said: AncapAnimeGod said: You aren't really a MGTOW if you pursue a fake relationship with girls in order to use them as sexual objects, and throw them out the second you get what you want. You are by definition supposed to stay away from girls and dating them if you are a MGTOW:Aastra343 said: OP or OP's 'friend': just seek help, your biggest problem right now isn't not getting romantic affection, it's dealing with suicidal ideation. I hope these lists can help you if you're really desperate: here and here. AncapAnimeGod said: Modern western women are not worth it. The only good thing they are good for is pumping and dumping. This is the reason why so many men are walking away and becoming mgtow. Also never take any advice from women They will say how they want a nice guy but in reality they go for the bad boy. Until it is time to settle down then they search for beta billy to help them raise their bastard children and wonder where are all good men gone. I can predict many cats in this woman future. Damn,you didn't say anything about looksmatch, black pill and your jawline, how will I be able to tell if you're truly an incel or not? I'm confused. I am not an incel I am a MGTOW. I was explaining why western women are not worthed and why I mostly pump and dump them. "Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW /ˈmɪɡtaʊ/) is an anti-feminist,[3] mostly online community[4][5] advocating for men to separate themselves from society, and particularly to eschew heterosexual marriage and cohabitation.[3] MGTOW have "...vowed to stay away from women, stop dating and not have children".[6]" The link was for that [6], and the whole quote came from wiki. Why did you pick news article and not official mgtow website is beyond me but her is the definition of mgtow by official mgtow site: MGTOW - Men Going Their Own Way - is a statement of self-ownership, where the modern man preserves and protects his own sovereignty above all else. It is the manifestation of one word: "No". Ejecting silly preconceptions and cultural definitions of what a man is. Looking to no one else for social cues. Refusing to bow, serve and kneel for the opportunity to be treated like a disposable utility. And, living according to his own best interests in a world which would rather he didn't. In other words . . . common sense for men. https://www.mgtow.com/ And here is an even better explanation of what mgtow is by sandman [yt]iVXdxaaRiAU[yt] There is nothing in there as you can see that states that I can't sleep with or date women. Also you saying that I use them as sex objects offends me, after all those women chose VOLUNTARILY to sleep with me. They are also receiving pleasure from the intercourse just like I am. Or are you simply trying to imply that women don't enjoy sex. Also isn't no string attached sex what hookup culture is all about, women are doing it all the time and your not judging them so why judge me. And if you hate hookup culture take it up with feminists since they are responsible for the creation of that culture. MGTOW is basically the same premise as separatist feminism but with males instead of females as the biggest difference. https://www.feministcurrent.com/2015/11/30/18995/ M.G.T.O.W. is not political, it's a philosophy. It's about male sovereignty, and self actualization from a gynocentric society. M.G.T.O.W. is nothing like feminism, apart from each idealiology rejecting their respective gender roles. They are almost completely different. |
Jun 19, 2019 9:51 AM
#131
@Ryuk9428 Nah, you weren't mean to me in any way, we had a disagreement, but it was civil. By the way, you were right on that most people(or most people on MAL's forums at least) don't assume someone loves them when they are dating them. It does differ though(I wasn't alone in that thinking), some do believe that it does imply that. |
Jun 19, 2019 10:53 AM
#132
deg said: i was curious but ye now i remember who OP is he got a lot of thread making history about his single life that he hates so much https://myanimelist.net/forum/search?q=&u=Crzy_Minus&uloc=2&loc=11 Oh wow, every single one of his threads is about loneliness. And sometimes claiming it's about a "friend". |
Jun 19, 2019 10:59 AM
#133
@Ryuk9428 Well, I'm glad that you feel like this thread has helped you. I suppose since you shared something personal I should do the same. I have a bf, however, although we both work, my pay is significantly better than his. In our situation traditional gender roles make zero sense... Heck, the reverse is much more likely, seeing that my bf is much better at cooking and chores than I am. What would you do in a situation like that as a supporter of traditional gender roles? Do you have an argument that would convince me to act against the economic interest of the both me and my bf? Please note that when someone is against traditional gender roles, it doesn't mean that they want to outlaw stay-at-home moms or something. It simply means that they are against trying to peer pressure everyone to fit into that mold, whether it makes sense or not. It is perfectly viable to be for example a progressive feminist while adhering to the traditional family structure. What people like me want is for all kind of roles to be accepted for any gender, including the traditional one. People should be free to choose for themselves. |
NthDegreeJun 19, 2019 11:03 AM
Jun 19, 2019 11:32 AM
#134
This thread is a gold mine. I'm fucking ecstatic that MAL is active enough to inspire threads like these. You assholes had to make it about your personal problems didn't ya? And as par the course, the suicidal guy is left to dry. |
removed-userJun 19, 2019 11:39 AM
Jun 19, 2019 11:59 AM
#135
OP said: Cneq said: @OP not too sure what to tell you man. No matter how you slice it relying on anything to keep your happiness will always lead to a bad outcome. Whether that be games, drugs or love/social interaction. The only way to solve the issue is to appreciate what you have and carry on with whatever path life has given you. Trying too hard to get something [in a unhealthy way] or relying too much on something is a self-destructive cycle that will most likely never give you want you want in the end. Any type of social media should be avoided if you're friend is in that state of mind. Borrowed money or state funds to a gambling addict is social media to a person who craves love/social interaction, both may give immediate relief [more gambling short term/shallow social interaction, hits on tinder etc] but both will not fix the problem and ruin the person in the end. wait why you gotta bring me into this :/ Probably cause OP refers to original poster on sites like reddit. Anyway it is nice to see a fellow K-ON fan on glummy tread like this. Have a nice day |
Jun 19, 2019 12:11 PM
#136
HungryForQuality said: This thread is a gold mine. I'm fucking ecstatic that MAL is active enough to inspire threads like these. You assholes had to make it about your personal problems didn't ya? And as par the course, the suicidal guy is left to dry. People have already told him to go get help. I think probably on the first or second page. No need to reiterate. Let people have fun (come on man, this is entertaining). |
Jun 19, 2019 12:12 PM
#137
KindUnicorn said: TOP 10 WOMEN tips How to be SUCCESSFUL on TINDER and stop being INCEL 1) Please stop with the creeper loser statements. Like: "I will treat you like a Woman, but I am going to Act like a Man." "Do you think you are interested in being friends with a professional, masculine, charming, polite, well spoken, intelligent, laid back alpha male type?" "Works hard. Plays harder." "LOL." 2) Know your league. "If you want to step out of that league, do it with some game. (This sounds so shitty and shallow, but that's sort of the name of the game with online dating.) Dear not-super-hot guys, you make hot girls feel really bad when you send us messages about how we 'probably won't write you back, because of physical reasons X, Y and Z, but you thought you would try anyway.' No one is attracted to this type of self-consciousness in real life, so when you broadcast it online, it's literally all we are going to see. So you're a little pudgy or balding but you want to take me on a date? Then say something that will make me want to date you." 3) Spare us the entitlement. "If I don't want to write you back, for whatever personal reason I have for doing so, that's okay. Swallow it! Just because you express interest in me does not mean I owe you anything in return. Cutting remarks/insults sent to someone you've never met aren't 'jokes' or 'just being playful.' But they do make you look like an insecure asshole." 4) We can read between the lines. "Men who feel the need to explicitly describe themselves as 'nice' are not usually nice at all. If you're nice, it will be self-evident when we talk to one another. It also makes it sound like you think you're entitled to sex." 5) Try looking a little less serial killer if possible. "How about a natural smile? What's up with men and their angry/surly expression in EVERY pic? You look fuckin' grumpy. At least one picture, with teeth." 6) How tall are you, really? "Type your height into your profile. Now subtract two inches and type that instead. Let's have a threesome with reality. (I swear to god this is never wrong unless they're over 6'4" (actually 6'4")." 7) Tinder is not just a hook-up app. "Male Tinder profiles with the whole 'we all know what this is for/this isn't eHarmony' bullshit is kind of enraging. You can use the app for whatever the hell you please, but generalizing the whole thing says a lot about your entitlement. Tinder is whatever the users want it to be. Stop making sexist assumptions." 8) Stop being fake. "If I see one more profile that says the guy likes the 'finer things in life and romantic dinners' I will vomit." 9)Don't only see the physical. "Please don’t make references to how 'sexy' or 'hot' I am in your first message to me. I know. I have a mirror. Don't ask for naked pictures. Stop sending pictures of your penis. I repeat: STOP SENDING PICTURES OF YOUR PENIS. I've seen more bits of men in the last few years from men on these sites than I have in my entire life." 10) Fill out your whole stinking profile. "Also, don't send one-line emails and expect me to do a lot of work on my end, like answer that message. If you don't mention something specific in my profile, like, 'I saw you like this band. I saw them in concert last summer…' then I'll assume that you just saw my photos and wanted to get laid. NOT INTERESTED. And if you say you're interested in a relationship in your profile, you BETTER BE INTERESTED IN A RELATIONSHIP. Otherwise you are a dick and are wasting my time. If I don’t message you back, then I probably never will. Do not send me a third and fourth message. It makes you look like needy crybaby psycho, and no one wants one of those." All these recommendations seem very specific to you... Sounds like you just want to use this thread about a genuinely lonely and sad person to vent about the plethora of shitty dudes you met on a hookup app... Anyway @Crzy_Minus Don't use Tinder, just don't fucking do it period. It fucking sucks unless you're super extraverted and attractive and there is just something really demoralizing and pathetic about constantly giving women validation in this way. Save your soul fam, its not worth it. Just meet someone IRL, best way is through mutual friends or just bite the bullet and get a prostitute, if losing your virginity is really that big of a deal to you. You're definitely going to to have a better time with a professional compared to a tinder thot. |
LoneWolfJun 19, 2019 2:14 PM
"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." -Friedrich Nietzsche |
Jun 19, 2019 12:45 PM
#138
Thanakos said: HungryForQuality said: This thread is a gold mine. I'm fucking ecstatic that MAL is active enough to inspire threads like these. You assholes had to make it about your personal problems didn't ya? And as par the course, the suicidal guy is left to dry. People have already told him to go get help. I think probably on the first or second page. No need to reiterate. Let people have fun (come on man, this is entertaining). Eh the vast majority didn't. Most people used it as an opportunity to complain lol. There were a couple that told him to get help but they got ignored. Though you're right, it is something. But is it enough? I just wish the oppressed would be more honest with themselves. Like the guy who has a meltdown over women not getting with him despite claiming to be sexually and I'd guess socially satisfied by hookers and strippers. If that's true, who fucking gives a shit? And then he apologizes cuz he ain't such a bad guy. He's not fucking like that! 😢. Trying to salvage his oh so precious MAL reputation. Fucking has me in stitches chief. I fucking hate backtracking and why the fuck was that post so formal? :D And then there are the girls who put on this big fucking list of standards, trying to command a no-nonsense presence over the MAL thread fucking sprawling with desperate dudes who are totally not desperate. They give zero fucks, that's why they think and talk about it constantly. Trying to be fucking authoritative over desperate people on MAL fucking forums to feel good about yourself. Hijacking this plea of a thread much like the desperate dudes yet so convinced that y'all are complete opposites. Is this what we've come to as a community? :D But I agree with you, this is actually entertaining. I was only half disdainful about it all. I do think it's pretty nice how people here are so vocal about their personal problems and hard n fast beliefs and how they pounce on talking about em. It's that transparency and raw emotion that I find engaging. I honestly thought these type of threads died years ago, way before I joined the site. Considering I spend so much time on here, it's useful to learn about the trials and tribulations my fellow MAL users are overwhelmed by. Like an up to date version although things seem to have not changed much. But still it is something that shouldn't be ignored, wouldn't you agree? Knowledge is knowledge. It's easy to ridicule but so much harder to absorb. Though the flip side can be just as bad. Getting served new flavors of shit. Different flavors of assholes and despair and surprisingly monotony. Ah it can feel so depressing but hell it also keeps you on your toes kinda in an ironic way. And that's something ain't it? We live, we learn, and we (hopefully) change :D Fuck I'm rambling ain't I? Just couldn't get these thoughts outta my head the more I read this fast growing thread. I'm sorry. |
Jun 19, 2019 1:32 PM
#139
NthDegree said: @Ryuk9428 Well, I'm glad that you feel like this thread has helped you. I suppose since you shared something personal I should do the same. I have a bf, however, although we both work, my pay is significantly better than his. In our situation traditional gender roles make zero sense... Heck, the reverse is much more likely, seeing that my bf is much better at cooking and chores than I am. What would you do in a situation like that as a supporter of traditional gender roles? Do you have an argument that would convince me to act against the economic interest of the both me and my bf? Please note that when someone is against traditional gender roles, it doesn't mean that they want to outlaw stay-at-home moms or something. It simply means that they are against trying to peer pressure everyone to fit into that mold, whether it makes sense or not. It is perfectly viable to be for example a progressive feminist while adhering to the traditional family structure. What people like me want is for all kind of roles to be accepted for any gender, including the traditional one. People should be free to choose for themselves. If that's what works out for you guys then I think you should do it the way that it works for y'all. I just want to do it this way because I feel like taking that stress burden off of my future wife will make both of our lives better. I do think I worry a little bit that some women feel that people will look down on them if they are a housewife because certain people are so determined to get rid of those traditional gender roles, but that fear was magnified way out of proportion by my sexual frustration which puts me in a weird mood of thinking everything is going to destroy the world lol. |
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Jun 19, 2019 1:37 PM
#140
HungryForQuality said: Thanakos said: HungryForQuality said: This thread is a gold mine. I'm fucking ecstatic that MAL is active enough to inspire threads like these. You assholes had to make it about your personal problems didn't ya? And as par the course, the suicidal guy is left to dry. People have already told him to go get help. I think probably on the first or second page. No need to reiterate. Let people have fun (come on man, this is entertaining). Eh the vast majority didn't. Most people used it as an opportunity to complain lol. There were a couple that told him to get help but they got ignored. Though you're right, it is something. But is it enough? I just wish the oppressed would be more honest with themselves. Like the guy who has a meltdown over women not getting with him despite claiming to be sexually and I'd guess socially satisfied by hookers and strippers. If that's true, who fucking gives a shit? And then he apologizes cuz he ain't such a bad guy. He's not fucking like that! 😢. Trying to salvage his oh so precious MAL reputation. Fucking has me in stitches chief. I fucking hate backtracking and why the fuck was that post so formal? :D And then there are the girls who put on this big fucking list of standards, trying to command a no-nonsense presence over the MAL thread fucking sprawling with desperate dudes who are totally not desperate. They give zero fucks, that's why they think and talk about it constantly. Trying to be fucking authoritative over desperate people on MAL fucking forums to feel good about yourself. Hijacking this plea of a thread much like the desperate dudes yet so convinced that y'all are complete opposites. Is this what we've come to as a community? :D But I agree with you, this is actually entertaining. I was only half disdainful about it all. I do think it's pretty nice how people here are so vocal about their personal problems and hard n fast beliefs and how they pounce on talking about em. It's that transparency and raw emotion that I find engaging. I honestly thought these type of threads died years ago, way before I joined the site. Considering I spend so much time on here, it's useful to learn about the trials and tribulations my fellow MAL users are overwhelmed by. Like an up to date version although things seem to have not changed much. But still it is something that shouldn't be ignored, wouldn't you agree? Knowledge is knowledge. It's easy to ridicule but so much harder to absorb. Though the flip side can be just as bad. Getting served new flavors of shit. Different flavors of assholes and despair and surprisingly monotony. Ah it can feel so depressing but hell it also keeps you on your toes kinda in an ironic way. And that's something ain't it? We live, we learn, and we (hopefully) change :D Fuck I'm rambling ain't I? Just couldn't get these thoughts outta my head the more I read this fast growing thread. I'm sorry. The whole meltdown was just irrational. I know that, but I literally lost my sanity and felt ashamed of the meltdown I had so I felt the need to explain it, at least somewhat. But yes, I am satisfied with strippers and hookers, when I'm actually going to them. I mean it had been 6 months. A certain part of me was aware of that, but the irrational frustration just clouded everything out. |
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Jun 19, 2019 2:11 PM
#141
@KindUnicorn "And then there are the girls who put on this big fucking list of standards, trying to command a no-nonsense presence over the MAL thread fucking sprawling with desperate dudes who are totally not desperate. They give zero fucks, that's why they think and talk about it constantly. Trying to be fucking authoritative over desperate people on MAL fucking forums to feel good about yourself. Hijacking this plea of a thread much like the desperate dudes yet so convinced that y'all are complete opposites. Is this what we've come to as a community? :D " You surprisingly didn't address this, but I have a feeling it was mostly aimed at you. Also, going to note here, I don't really agree with what you said about Ryuk. |
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Jun 19, 2019 2:13 PM
#142
AncapAnimeGod said: Separatist feminism is not political, it's a philosophy. It's about female sovereignty, and self actualization from a patriarchal society. Separatist feminism is nothing like M.G.T.O.W apart from each idealiology rejecting their respective gender roles. They are almost completely different. Now do you see the parallels between the Separatist Feminism and MGTOW after a simple word change? Spilling your salt isn't helping OP or yourself. |
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Jun 19, 2019 2:31 PM
#143
@Peaceful_Critic Only thing I said about standards was that it is ok to have them as long as they are not unreasonable. |
Jun 19, 2019 2:38 PM
#144
Peaceful_Critic said: @KindUnicorn "And then there are the girls who put on this big fucking list of standards, trying to command a no-nonsense presence over the MAL thread fucking sprawling with desperate dudes who are totally not desperate. They give zero fucks, that's why they think and talk about it constantly. Trying to be fucking authoritative over desperate people on MAL fucking forums to feel good about yourself. Hijacking this plea of a thread much like the desperate dudes yet so convinced that y'all are complete opposites. Is this what we've come to as a community? :D " You surprisingly didn't address this, but I have a feeling it was mostly aimed at you. Also, going to note here, I don't really agree with what you said about Ryuk. It's aimed at both of those jackasses. They'll never learn. They'll never look inward. It's all about one upping the other person and framing themselves as the one who gets it all. Always. And it's spilling all over where it shouldn't. Both of you are fucking right and both of you are wrong also. Damn you people live in such bubbles. Also Ryuk, you're constantly fucking advertising about all the hookers and strippers you've gotten with, how they let you touch them, in past threads and now you're backtracking with some whack ass formal apology because a girl apparently hasn't touched you in 6 months. You think people are fucking stupid? Such an obvious lie! And why are you complaining if this is going so well for you huh? Everyone knows it's not going so well for you and you're fucking lying to yourself. Life is unfair ok. You are not the only fucking person who knows that, who feels that, I fucking promise. If that's now who you are in that amazingly worded apology, then who the fuck are you ? You some blob that attacks and retreats? Stand by your convictions or don't complain about problems that you yourself apparently don't face. At least understand what's going on. Damn. And Unicorn. What the hell do you think those list of standards will do? You think every guy has to be so fucking perfect and you have to shove that bullshit condescending perfectionist attitude to show how high class you fucking are in a thread where someone is fucking suicidal over what's going on. Why are you so fucking narcissistic and high maintenance? Can't you ever for once come down to fucking Earth and understand what's being asked? But no everything has to be some narrative for you to push, you fucking narcissistic brat. Fear mongering, never fucking listening, and twisting any topic to fit your narrative, and not thinking inward for a fucking second. Should be put on all your fucking gravestones, you annoying ignorant dumbasses. I'm done here. Y'all can smugly deny it but it's true and considering how you assholes are, it always will be. |
Jun 19, 2019 3:03 PM
#145
HungryForQuality said: And Unicorn. What the hell do you think those list of standards will do? You think every guy has to be so fucking perfect and you have to shove that bullshit condescending perfectionist attitude to show how high class you fucking are in a thread where someone is fucking suicidal over what's going on. Why are you so fucking narcissistic and high maintenance? Can't you ever for once come down to fucking Earth and understand what's being asked? But no everything has to be some narrative for you to push, you fucking narcissistic brat. Fear mongering, never fucking listening, and twisting any topic to fit your narrative, and not thinking inward for a fucking second. Should be put on all your fucking gravestones, you annoying ignorant dumbasses. I'm done here. Y'all can smugly deny it but it's true and considering how you assholes are, it always will be. "citation needed" I haven't said a word of what you accuse me in that post. I don't know why are you criticizing him when your are just as bad as he is if not worse. Your just another angry edgy misogynistic incel online that is relaying on strawman argument and insults. I am done with trying to help and give advises to your incel kind you can all rot in hell for what I care. THIS CONVERSATION IS OVER DON'T SPEAK TO ME EVER AGAIN. |
EvilUnicornJun 19, 2019 3:08 PM
Jun 19, 2019 3:37 PM
#146
KindUnicorn said: I'll take it step by step, so you can see where I am coming from.@Peaceful_Critic Only thing I said about standards was that it is ok to have them as long as they are not unreasonable. You did say that as well, but your first post is a 10 list of what guys should do, and showing general annoyance over the things you listed(which might've implied to Ryuk and others that was part of your standard). Ryuk then responded by talking about girls having too high of a standard("Nothing men do is ever enough, the tiniest communication mistakes such as saying they like romantic dinners or are a nice guy are apparently enough for you to completely discard them. "- #42) as a direct reply to your post. Your response to this clearly aimed at your OP didn't clarify that the post wasn't a list of standards which gave the impression to most that it was indeed a list of standards. @HungryForQuality I meant the portion I quoted when you started by saying: "And then there are the girls who put on this big fucking list of standards, trying to command a no-nonsense presence over the MAL thread fucking sprawling with desperate dudes who are totally not desperate...", not the whole comment. Though, I think your previous comment and the one you just made needs some citations as you came out of nowhere and started rumbling off insulting accusations. So it's hard to reply or agree with anything you said. |
removed-userJun 19, 2019 3:57 PM
Jun 19, 2019 5:31 PM
#147
traed said: Now do you see the parallels between the Separatist Feminism and MGTOW after a simple word change? Spilling your salt isn't helping OP or yourself. At this point I came to the conclusion that your either a troll or an idiot. I hope that it's former, but then again you are a commie so it wouldn't surprise me if it's the later. Only thing left for me to do is to wish you Bone Voyage on your trip with your FREE helicopter ride. |
Jun 20, 2019 2:25 AM
#148
@AnCapAnimeGod You need to work on your self awareness if you're ever to grow as a person. |
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Jun 20, 2019 4:06 AM
#149
KindUnicorn said: If you seriously think I'm a incel you need help mate lmao. @Peaceful_Critic @Crzy_Minus @Cneq @RobertBobert @Lux_Lucis @LoneWolf @Incels Peaceful_Critic said: You did say that as well, but your first post is a 10 list of what guys should do, and showing general annoyance over the things you listed(which might've implied to Ryuk and others that was part of your standard). Ryuk then responded by talking about girls having too high of a standard("Nothing men do is ever enough, the tiniest communication mistakes such as saying they like romantic dinners or are a nice guy are apparently enough for you to completely discard them. "- #42) as a direct reply to your post. Your response to this clearly aimed at your OP didn't clarify that the post wasn't a list of standards which gave the impression to most that it was indeed a list of standards. I stated before: KindUnicorn said: There is nothing wrong with having standards. But when those standards are unrealistic( expecting nothing less then 10/10 model) that is where things are starting to become problematic. Instead of lowering standards these people seek other like minded individuals and create toxic echo-chambers communities like MGTOW, INCEL, RED PILL. Which keeps them from self-improvement and as a result they become bitter, disenfranchised, and entitled individuals that believe others owe them something. Instead of realising that they are the problem and that they hold a key to the solution of their problem. KindUnicorn said: I disagree I think that being honest and transparent about what you expect from a partner to be a good thing. And if other people find that shallow they should just deal with it. Cause if you keep standards to your self you are going to have men complain about being friendzoned or that your teasing and leading them on like Ryuk9428. KindUnicorn said: Only thing I said about standards was that it is ok to have them as long as they are not unreasonable. I think that pretty much sums up my view on standards. As for my own I'm allowed to have what ever standards I want after all I am in charge of my own body and since I'am not the one having a trouble finding a partner, and the fact that there are people that meet my standards proves that my standards are not unreasonable unlike their standards. What they really want is for women 8+/10(stacy how they call them) to be with them simply because they exist without them having to do anything to better them selves or do any sort of improvement which is never going to happen. Would you chose fedora wearing, obese, misogynistic, neckbeard, that haven't taken shower in weeks full to the brim with negativity and toxic masculinity or a good looking guy with a witty sense of humor and positive outlook on life. And as I said before: KindUnicorn said: The fact that your UNFUCKABLE IN YOUR CURRENT FORM means that it's YOUR job to make the changes necessary to get someone to want to fuck you, not THEIR job to fuck your creep ass simply because you want it Lauren Chen did an AMAZING video on this topic (Incel vs Chad: Why Sexual Competition is GOOD) And I did try to help them and give them advices KindUnicorn said: And if your only nice to them in order to get something from them or to get into their pants then your not that nice to begin with. Instead that makes your look like a manipulative ahole and no girl wants to date a man like that. So my advice to you is aside from basics (Shower, nice haircut, fashionable clothes, respect women, NO MEANS NO) is to improve your personality and stop being needy and desperate cause that is the instant turn off for most women. But what did I get in return I got this Ryuk9428 said: Another feminist squawking about "mens' entitlement" and repeating "women don't owe you anything" as an obviously pre-prepared talking point along with useless advice I've already heard a thousand times is never gonna bring that side of me out though. No woman deserves respect just for owning a vagina, they earn respect by being the kind of woman that a guy wants to see raising his children. Believe it or not, as a girl, you do need to bring something to the table. Men are not going to go to any effort for you unless you promise them something they want and you show that that something they want, is, in-fact, obtainable. Men get really fucking tired of women who like teasing them without giving them anything real. If they put in the effort that you're asking of them, then you need to deliver on your promise to them or there is no reason to continue pursuing this relationship. No does mean no but its pretty bitchy to tease a guy and make him go through all that effort when you were just gonna say no HungryForQuality said: You think every guy has to be so fucking perfect and you have to shove that bullshit condescending perfectionist attitude to show how high class you fucking are in a thread where someone is fucking suicidal over what's going on. Why are you so fucking narcissistic and high maintenance? Can't you ever for once come down to fucking Earth and understand what's being asked? But no everything has to be some narrative for you to push, you fucking narcissistic brat. Fear mongering, never fucking listening, and twisting any topic to fit your narrative, and not thinking inward for a fucking second. Should be put on all your fucking gravestones, you annoying ignorant dumbasses. My tips for tinder were not aimed at ryuk specifically but to men in general, and they were just that TIPS FOR TINDER nothing more nothing less. And If my TINDER TIPS triggered or hurt @Ryuk9428 and @HungryForQuality and any other misogynistic incels fragile masculinity all the better. I had a displeasure of dealing with them both in person(yeah...) and in online world. This videos demonstrate what women go through every day when dealing with this misogynistic creeps. So don't blame me if I don't feel any sympathy for them or I sound more angrier than usual. For Angry Incels |
Jun 20, 2019 4:24 AM
#150
Cneq said: If you seriously think I'm a incel you need help mate lmao. Glad to here that your not. I never said that you are I was making my last and final post on this topic and trying to address everyone arguments at the same time. As the saying goes "If it doesn't apply let it fly". I hope you have a nice day bye. 😉 |
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