| Personally, I have a more higher rate of completion with anime than American TV shows. I mean I can only count with my fingers the shows I've finished(including several shows I haven't had a chance of finishing which was good too) and I kind of tried quite a lot in my life time. This lack of ability to hold my attention for a long time is actually what makes me disagree with this statement. Most of the shows I've tried are just dry and stale while anime is much more dynamic. |
| OP bashing anime and it's fandon and he as surprised and act devensive when they make a counter attack, whta a joke... |
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| Are you really comparing the western TV media and the anime media? The anime industry are not as advanced as them they really don't have the luxury to experiment and take risks or give proper adaptations (which of course needs huge budget) not knowing if it will succeed or not and with the population problems and animators being underpaid they tend to to play it safe which is understandable. But even among this there are many animes that are well written and entertaining than most other TV shows both has good and bad in them and you are only focusing on the bad sides of anime industry and good side of the western industry. |
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Paradigmatic said: Personally, I have a more higher rate of completion with anime than American TV shows. I mean I can only count with my fingers the shows I've finished(including several shows I haven't had a chance of finishing which was good too) and I kind of tried quite a lot in my life time. This lack of ability to hold my attention for a long time is actually what makes me disagree with this statement. Most of the shows I've tried are just dry and stale while anime is much more dynamic. I agree. Most tv shows are made to appeal the mainstreem public and anime always seems to come with fresh ideas - good and bad - which is why I enjoy anime a lot more. Of course, there are good and bad anime and modern tv shows, so I wouldn't say one medium is more lackluster then the other. |
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Stead said: and your still skipping the entire thread. Way to go!Botan-Chan45 said: Did you skip the entire forum? The guy mostly types in a manner that makes it seem his opinion is objective. It's no use too since he still thinks his opinion is fact. It seemed you skipped over the entirety of my post because my point seems to have went over your head. |
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| I'd say cause anime is a niche and confined to one type of culture and made mostly for teens. We're as Western stuff targets more mature audiences and/or are influenced by a more familiar culture to our own. |
| Death note best anime....... OMEGALUL But i agree its good, but they force the plot too much to continue the story. Im Ok with western or eastern, live or animation. It depend what they offer. Do i enjoy and like the story? Is it suitable with my culture? (Im eastern btw). Personally i dont like western TV series, especially animation (cartoon). Because sometime i dont get the tempo and not understand the small culural thing / joke, somehow its not delighting. |
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teruu said: TheJaceX said: I'm gonna take a crack at this bit by bit: First let's address the pandering shit. Simple answer, anime is a medium hurting for money, so they constantly put out the most profitable shows. This is also why it's also brimming with mediocre adaptations. Alright so now that we've tackled why anime is shit let's tackle why it's good. The core difference between anime and live-action is exactly what it's made out of, animation and actors. Each form has it's own strengths and weaknesses and which medium you enjoy more depends on those strengths. A good live-action show will usually be the more realistic ones, using the advantage of having real people with good acting skills to pull you into real drama. This can catch the nuances of real life in a way no animation can. But on the other end of the stick animation benefits from not being realistic, it can more naturally do some strange and amazing things without being held back by being photo-realistic, this is why a lot of the best anime are known for their stylization and willingness to go crazy with their animation. This is why Masaki Yuaasa gets praised a lot, not only for his ability to tell a good story but to show a good story. So while you may not ever come across an anime that feels as real as a top of the line TV drama, you'll never come across a TV drama that can hold a candle to how a top of the line anime can build imaginative worlds. So essentially, when you watch a lot of stuff aimed at kids (see: Shounen, Shoujo) you're going to get stories that are served up for kids, the best anime are usually those made by creative minds with a vision that can't quite match up with reality. Sorry if this is incohesive and ramble-y, I just woke up and didn't edit this at all. Let me say it like this If an anime had the plot of breaking bad, it'd be rated much higher over any anime created and be a huge hit. Do you agree? I dont agree and its not even close, I only used to watch all sorts of tv shows back in 2015 until I encountered Anime, after I started watching Anime for some reason I dropped all the tv shows I used to watch weekly because I found Anime Better, It has more Emotion, its more enjoyable and when it comes to fighting it can pull way better fighting than tv shows. Romance Movies and tv shows were never good for me, and doesnt make you feel anything, I never tried Romance anime at first because I though it was going to be the same as tv shows n movies, but somehow the Romance in Anime hooked me so much and give you so many feels compared to tv shows. And Idk why do you assume that tv shows are better than tv anime because thats not even true, it mostly depends on preference, for example, I find SteinsGate, Monster and Hunter X Hunter 2011 to be better by far than all the tv shows ive seen and ive seen alot of them including breaking bad twice. |
logopolis said: I've read descriptions of Breaking Bad, and I don't understand why any human being would want to watch something like that. In general, live-action American television is virtually never any good in my experience. British live-action is better due to its theatrical background, but as good as stuff like some of the Plays for Today, I Clavdivs, Sapphire and Steel or McCoy or Eccleston era Doctor Who are, put them against something like Utena or Shinsekai Yori and there's no contest. Animation is a better storytelling format than live-action, and anime is where you see this fact repeatedly proven. You should try actually watching BB. |
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| Anime generally have shit budgets, so the people who work on them are paid slave wages (and that's being generous). Major western productions, even western cartoons, however have massive budgets in comparison. While money certainly isn't the only cause, and god knows that there are plenty of shitty TV shows over here, it's definitely a primary cause. |
| People who put MAL stats in their sigs are losers lol |
Kittens-kun said: logopolis said: I've read descriptions of Breaking Bad, and I don't understand why any human being would want to watch something like that. In general, live-action American television is virtually never any good in my experience. British live-action is better due to its theatrical background, but as good as stuff like some of the Plays for Today, I Clavdivs, Sapphire and Steel or McCoy or Eccleston era Doctor Who are, put them against something like Utena or Shinsekai Yori and there's no contest. Animation is a better storytelling format than live-action, and anime is where you see this fact repeatedly proven. You should try actually watching BB. Exactly. My favorite show of all time. Insanely great show. |
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| Why even compare them in the first place? They're totally different mediums. I like and watch Anime, as I like and watch Western movies and shows. And, I have to say, which is obvious, they both have their goods and bads. Every medium is like that; most of the time they play safe, and release things that sales. They all have tropes and formulas. But it seems everyone believes that only Anime do that, and so so inferior to the All-Innovative western stuff. Besides, Anime isn't monolithic, if you don't like 'childish' stuff don't watch a 400+ epi shounen. |
| I feel the comparisons between mediums are very pointless. Because every medium has their own features and strengths. Your comparison is very shallow. However, even if you are true that the writing of western TV shows is better than anime, it isn't the only factor that decides everything. Anime is a form of animation so it has its own artistry values, its animation aesthetics that live-action series can't be achieved. Can you find any live-action TV series with such a superior, calming and unique atmosphere like Mushishi? Or can you find any live-action TV series that has gorgeous visual imaginary that explore deeply into human's inner thoughts and emotions like Sangatsu no Lion? Even the "exaggerated emotions", which you think is stupid is one my favorite things about anime. The way an anime character evokes their emotions and shows their body languages made it's easier for me to connect with them and feel sympathy for them. After all, It's not because anime is a subpar medium. it's just you didn't find the strengths of this medium or you didn't appreciate them. |
| I think you should just watch both if you want and not be too judgemental about it... Yes there is some toxicity among watchers sometimes but it is not everywhere, it depends. Anime expressions and timing aren't going to match live action because it's different but that doesn't mean it can't be enjoyable, or have good visual effects sometimes. TV can have good writing but it can also have bad writing and I have dropped many TV shows as well as anime. (Even though I don't list them.) Usually TV shows feel more grounded in reality to me though, so if you like serious things that may be why you prefer that, but try to be understanding of the people who like other things as well. :P |
| >checks profile >27 shows completed Every. Single. Time. |
| I guess a big part of that is due to how big a budget a show has. |
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Kittens-kun said: You should try actually watching BB. StarSwoardsman said: Exactly. My favorite show of all time. Insanely great show. It clearly fills its fans with eloquence. |
logopolis said: Kittens-kun said: You should try actually watching BB. StarSwoardsman said: Exactly. My favorite show of all time. Insanely great show. It clearly fills its fans with eloquence. I'm just telling you to watch something intead of making assumptions based on short descriptions. What's wrong with that? |
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| > Expecting people on MAL to agree with your basic premise that modern TV is better than anime Anyway... I do agree with the reddit quote in your OP. Also, I would guess that big television shows usually have larger budgets and production capacities than most anime series, especially with things like Game of Thrones, etc. I feel like those types of shows just make more money than anime in general, and so they get the benefit of then having more funds to up the production quality in future seasons, while a lot of anime is just seasonal one-offs. Ultimately though, I think it will just end up being a matter of opinion. There are some people on MAL who would never admit that Western TV can be better than anime, and there are plenty of modern TV show watchers who would rather drink bleach than watch Bleach. Personally, I am obviously a fan of anime, but even the best anime I have ever seen does not compare to the top Western television shows and movies that I have watched. |
 What's the difference? |
| Where do you watch it? Cause I'm a Mexican and my family mostly only have the Mexican channels. But they don't have one with boxing. |
| Yeah right there is no way a doujin about vomit exists. Good song https://soundcloud.com/yeungkakit33/op4-hekireki-last-alliance Tsumino account is BigMaraIppo Another Good Song Listen to テスト by mukami #np on #SoundCloud https://soundcloud.com/mukami/77a Ashita no Joe and Megalo box are disappointing anime. My reviews:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Botan-Chan45/reviews Best Naruto Op: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByCNZxOBVWM&list=RDByCNZxOBVWM&index=1 discord name: Chitoge Kirisaki#9564 https://discord.gg/nGKu6zx my discord server for plebs |
evoniee said: God of logic appears!! Thanks you blessed soulDeath note best anime....... OMEGALUL But i agree its good, but they force the plot too much to continue the story. Im Ok with western or eastern, live or animation. It depend what they offer. Do i enjoy and like the story? Is it suitable with my culture? (Im eastern btw). Personally i dont like western TV series, especially animation (cartoon). Because sometime i dont get the tempo and not understand the small culural thing / joke, somehow its not delighting. |
| Yeah right there is no way a doujin about vomit exists. Good song https://soundcloud.com/yeungkakit33/op4-hekireki-last-alliance Tsumino account is BigMaraIppo Another Good Song Listen to テスト by mukami #np on #SoundCloud https://soundcloud.com/mukami/77a Ashita no Joe and Megalo box are disappointing anime. My reviews:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Botan-Chan45/reviews Best Naruto Op: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByCNZxOBVWM&list=RDByCNZxOBVWM&index=1 discord name: Chitoge Kirisaki#9564 https://discord.gg/nGKu6zx my discord server for plebs |
| I don't watch much TV I consider most modern TV shows to be trash. |
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 This is done with less budget, but is more funnier than comedy shows(except some like SP) and has a low budget. Big budget and time doesn't mean it will always be good. EX; Mass Effect Andromeda and Cod Series and Amy Schumer |
| Yeah right there is no way a doujin about vomit exists. Good song https://soundcloud.com/yeungkakit33/op4-hekireki-last-alliance Tsumino account is BigMaraIppo Another Good Song Listen to テスト by mukami #np on #SoundCloud https://soundcloud.com/mukami/77a Ashita no Joe and Megalo box are disappointing anime. My reviews:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Botan-Chan45/reviews Best Naruto Op: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByCNZxOBVWM&list=RDByCNZxOBVWM&index=1 discord name: Chitoge Kirisaki#9564 https://discord.gg/nGKu6zx my discord server for plebs |
Botan-Chan45 said: Where do you watch it? Cause I'm a Mexican and my family mostly only have the Mexican channels. But they don't have one with boxing. Netflix. Should be on there in Mexivo. Binge worthy show. Only show that I've seen with better writing is actually AOT in terms of twists and characters. |
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StarSwoardsman said: AoT like Attack on Titan? Sounds like a regular show that anybody can enjoy.(Except it has drugs like el Chapo.)Botan-Chan45 said: Where do you watch it? Cause I'm a Mexican and my family mostly only have the Mexican channels. But they don't have one with boxing. Netflix. Should be on there in Mexivo. Binge worthy show. Only show that I've seen with better writing is actually AOT in terms of twists and characters. |
| Yeah right there is no way a doujin about vomit exists. Good song https://soundcloud.com/yeungkakit33/op4-hekireki-last-alliance Tsumino account is BigMaraIppo Another Good Song Listen to テスト by mukami #np on #SoundCloud https://soundcloud.com/mukami/77a Ashita no Joe and Megalo box are disappointing anime. My reviews:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Botan-Chan45/reviews Best Naruto Op: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByCNZxOBVWM&list=RDByCNZxOBVWM&index=1 discord name: Chitoge Kirisaki#9564 https://discord.gg/nGKu6zx my discord server for plebs |
| I disagree, and so does my DVD/BD collection. Number of owned Anime: 803 Number of owned Domestic Live Action TV Series: 19 If domestic TV series were better then I'd own more of them. |
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ViewtifulFella said: This will continue as long as they guys live>checks profile >27 shows completed Every. Single. Time. |
| Yeah right there is no way a doujin about vomit exists. Good song https://soundcloud.com/yeungkakit33/op4-hekireki-last-alliance Tsumino account is BigMaraIppo Another Good Song Listen to テスト by mukami #np on #SoundCloud https://soundcloud.com/mukami/77a Ashita no Joe and Megalo box are disappointing anime. My reviews:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Botan-Chan45/reviews Best Naruto Op: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByCNZxOBVWM&list=RDByCNZxOBVWM&index=1 discord name: Chitoge Kirisaki#9564 https://discord.gg/nGKu6zx my discord server for plebs |
Botan-Chan45 said: That is actually a great way to look at it. Just about anyone can get into Breaking Bad. Both have a strong plot, great characters (though AOT has a better cast), strong world building, good twists and a lot of unique action. StarSwoardsman said: AoT like Attack on Titan? Sounds like a regular show that anybody can enjoy.(Except it has drugs like el Chapo.)Netflix. Should be on there in Mexivo. Binge worthy show. Only show that I've seen with better writing is actually AOT in terms of twists and characters. |
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oh @teruu says American shows are better than anime. O ok, he's probably seen at least 500 anime to make that bold statement, lets check his profile to see..... Get out OP  |
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le_halfhand_easy said: > Greatest anime ever created > Death Note Gods have mercy on your soul tonight because AD won't. The bait has been exposed. We're moving out bois! |
DoctorWasabi said: lol this happens all the time. Wasn't there some fool that did something like ,"anime causals don't care," or something like that 2 weeks ago.oh @teruu says American shows are better than anime. O ok, he's probably seen at least 500 anime to make that bold statement, lets check his profile to see..... Get out OP |
| Yeah right there is no way a doujin about vomit exists. Good song https://soundcloud.com/yeungkakit33/op4-hekireki-last-alliance Tsumino account is BigMaraIppo Another Good Song Listen to テスト by mukami #np on #SoundCloud https://soundcloud.com/mukami/77a Ashita no Joe and Megalo box are disappointing anime. My reviews:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Botan-Chan45/reviews Best Naruto Op: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByCNZxOBVWM&list=RDByCNZxOBVWM&index=1 discord name: Chitoge Kirisaki#9564 https://discord.gg/nGKu6zx my discord server for plebs |
| The biggest problem with anime the last decade is it became a huge money making industry. The art of the OVA is dead in favor of business and television ratings. There's a dearth of good, original ideas to facilitate the demand to land that big hit show that keeps you invested. Instead, studios, which are now all stacked on top of each other, are simply trying to borrow a hot idea and running with it. With nothing feeling unique, everything just feels like parity to the point that if you've seen one title of a certain genre, you've seen them all. "Oh, Attack on Titan is currently on fire. Quick, start work on Seraph of the End! We can do Titans too, but with vampires!!" No room for outliers, so they'll just keep adapting light novels and long-running shonen anime because it's low-hanging, easy to pick fruit. |
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| I see little point in comparing two completely different forms of entertainment. Now,if you were comparing their live action shows to western live action shows, that's another thing. Hell, I know people fucking hate this comparison, but even doing western cartoons vs anime would make more sense to me. |
| I don't think anime is all that lackluster. I personally almost stopped watching modern TV shows because I thought anime has thre better storytelling. Sure there is Game Of Thrones and sure different countries have their own really good TV shows but I couldn't for the hell of me call them better and what I've seen of TWD just makes me question if they're even trying. Sure anime has their lackluster stuff but the best ones are simply amazing. I know you don't like the franchise but Clannad for example is my favorite story in any medium. I almost tear up again when thinking about it while it's three years since I've seen it. Not a single live action TV show, be it classic or modern, has ever achieved something like that. |
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| I can kind of agree, i watch a lot of anime and i was watching The Crown on netlfix recently and really made me think about just how much better a well produced live action tv show is compared to most anime, but it doesn't mean anime is bad just that its still mostly made for teenagers while most tv is made for adults. |
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Kittens-kun said: I'm just telling you to watch something intead of making assumptions based on short descriptions. What's wrong with that? Do you watch every single TV show in existence? Because every TV show has fans who will tell you to watch it. It's just a meaningless contribution, that's all. But I can extract meaning from it anyway. If a show is interesting, people who like it will want to describe how it's interesting. If the people who like a show just tell you to watch it, that's a very good sign that it's a "gossip about imaginary people" type of show. There's no television in existence which suits everyone, so if you think a show will suit everyone, your mind has clearly been thoroughly messed with, that's how "gossip about imaginary people" shows work. If you want to recommend anything credibly, you need to be able to describe what sort of person will like it. That's basically what a recommendation is. "Watch it" is a command. |
logopolis said: Kittens-kun said: I'm just telling you to watch something intead of making assumptions based on short descriptions. What's wrong with that? Do you watch every single TV show in existence? Because every TV show has fans who will tell you to watch it. It's just a meaningless contribution, that's all. But I can extract meaning from it anyway. If a show is interesting, people who like it will want to describe how it's interesting. If the people who like a show just tell you to watch it, that's a very good sign that it's a "gossip about imaginary people" type of show. There's no television in existence which suits everyone, so if you think a show will suit everyone, your mind has clearly been thoroughly messed with, that's how "gossip about imaginary people" shows work. If you want to recommend anything credibly, you need to be able to describe what sort of person will like it. That's basically what a recommendation is. "Watch it" is a command. It's one of the most popular and critically acclaimed shows of the past decade. Do I really need to explain it to you? There's plenty of sites you can go to for information and reviews. Plus, I'm not commanding you to do anything. I just want you to actually watch it considering how wrong your initial assumption was. |
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| People say to me all the time that judging someone by how many shows they have seen is "elitist" and that being elitist is bad. But I prefer the term "experienced in the medium" Now, movies, I will agree with you, they are better. Disney has made and has always made better works than anime. If people get upset that I think Bambi can blow most anime out of the water, too bad. Looking at OP's list, they seem to like mostly anime with a lot of character death. They do not like comedies or shows where too many people swayed them to dislike the show. |
The anime community in a nutshell.  |
| Are you being too much of an elitist, OP? If you're starting to think that way then go back to your TV shows. |
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Kittens-kun said: It's one of the most popular and critically acclaimed shows of the past decade. Do I really need to explain it to you? Yes, that is one of the things I've heard repeatedly about it. It's very strong evidence that I shouldn't watch it, because the only way to be popular and critically acclaimed for anything which is remotely "realistic" is to be hegemonic, to reflect ruling class ideology within the standard and permitted bounds of dissent. Realistic shows which are worth watching will always be either very niche because their topic is interesting, or generally dismissed or frowned upon because their stance is interesting. For instance, I can predict with absolute certainty from that that, despite being deep in the world of prohibited drugs, it does not clearly call for an end to the evil policy of drug prohibition. That would upset too many people. There's plenty of sites you can go to for information and reviews. Plus, I'm not commanding you to do anything. I just want you to actually watch it considering how wrong your initial assumption was. What do you think I am assuming, which is wrong? |
| ah yes, people definitely getting way more creative with the bait threads another: "why do i have this opinion?" thread in disguise |
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| Because people like me is everywhere, so there is a larger demand to lackluster anime over serious anime. |
logopolis said: Kittens-kun said: It's one of the most popular and critically acclaimed shows of the past decade. Do I really need to explain it to you? Yes, that is one of the things I've heard repeatedly about it. It's very strong evidence that I shouldn't watch it, because the only way to be popular and critically acclaimed for anything which is remotely "realistic" is to be hegemonic, to reflect ruling class ideology within the standard and permitted bounds of dissent. Realistic shows which are worth watching will always be either very niche because their topic is interesting, or generally dismissed or frowned upon because their stance is interesting. For instance, I can predict with absolute certainty from that that, despite being deep in the world of prohibited drugs, it does not clearly call for an end to the evil policy of drug prohibition. That would upset too many people. There's plenty of sites you can go to for information and reviews. Plus, I'm not commanding you to do anything. I just want you to actually watch it considering how wrong your initial assumption was. What do you think I am assuming, which is wrong? Ok, maybe assumption was the wrong word. Your statement "I don't understand why any human being would want to watch something like that" is just really stupid. You shouldn't say something like that after reading a few descriptions. Maybe you would understand why so many people liked it if you watched it yourself. What is so hard about doing that? |
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| Why is American TV used as a comparison? Seems to me Eastern TV would be better for drawing parallels. Exaggerated emotions? Juvenile dialogue? Schmaltzy bgm? Illogical plot lines? Suspension of disbelief? Anime has nothing on j/k/t dramas... |
Kittens-kun said: Ok, maybe assumption was the wrong word. Your statement "I don't understand why any human being would want to watch something like that" is just really stupid. You shouldn't say something like that after reading a few descriptions. Maybe you would understand why so many people liked it if you watched it yourself. What is so hard about doing that? The minds of people who like things like that are just too alien for me. I have quite a good scientific understanding of the broad way in which people come to like such things, I have some psychological and sociological understanding, and I know how hegemony works. But the people who do it are still alien to me. Just like I'm alien to all of them. Our brains are just incompatible. People being unable to understand the minds of other people when they're just too different is not an unusual phenomenon. Look out for it as you go about your life. You're bound to run into examples of people saying "I don't understand why someone would want to..." which before had seemed perfectly natural to you. |
topazio said: It's actually ironic to see that one of your reasonings to avoid it is because it is so widely popular when you have things like Evangelion, Suzumiya Haruhi, Lain and even Madoka on your favs, haha None of those are popular, (except maybe Evangelion in Japan, but generally anime isn't actually popular even in Japan, that's why it mostly airs in the early hours of the morning and making 10,000 BD sales is very good going,) and none of them are "realistic" either. Animation is very rarely "realistic". |
| OP, watch Neon Genesis Evangelion and Twin Peaks. They'll both teach you a few things. |
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Are you being deliberately obtuse? Do you think that if you came to the office where I work and asked everyone what their opinion on Madoka was, that most people would have an opinion? Most of them wouldn't even be aware there was a TV show by that name. Do you have any awareness at all of the world outside of the anime fandom bubble? |
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