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Jan 3, 2014 2:42 PM
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Monty_Mon said:
This last episode feels like paying a prostitute for my first time, a little ackward but very exciting and at the very end when I'm about to climax, she leaves, leaving behind a bottle of hand lotion and a very confused boy.

Best comment ever and I am pretty feel like a confused boy right now and it's not a nice feeling I am telling you ;<

Edit:

Can also someone explain this to me or any assumption will be welcomed. As the series ended it was the start of Third Galactic Reich which is year 0. But they show us 221 years later at the very end of last episode and they are also showing us inside of Valvrave Unit I and I am guessing that Shoko is the one who became the pilot of this unit which is also obvious at this point. Everything is fine but one thing is bothering me. As we know that when you use Valvrave then it consumes your memories which is energry source to Pino but when they have shown the inside of Unit I, we can clearly see that Shoko's memories are still intact. Because she has every memory from childhood up to her high school days. However, saki and the mysterious enemy are fighting pretty 214 years into the future. So there is seven year gap between this war and the time they have shown us at the end of this episode. Since they have been fighting constantly how come Shoko's or other's pilots memories are still intact? I know that when you are out of memories then you tend to die and it's possible to feed the Valvrave with the newly created memories but what bothers me most is Shoko's memories are still intact when they have shown inside of the unit I. So I am just guessing that she never used that machine after she became the pilot of it or I am missing something here in the whole picture lol.

edit2: I think same question asked before. Sorry for not reading other post but it would be nice if someone gives me pleasuble answer. Thanks in advance.

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JeffreyZin said:
This anime had suffered the same fate just like Code Geass & Guilty Crown. I mean none of these shows had a happy ending.

Maybe the writer is just wanna fuck things up by doing some 'bloothbath' scene, the suffering of main protagonist & of course, many things left unexplained.

rillynx said:
i don't check other page..
but, can some body give me answer of this picture

http://i.imgur.com/xDeylME.jpg

why akira and L-elf in the picture,
if it after war why yamada and haruto alive..
if it before war, whay akira out in field..


I thought this is all memorial photos during their happy times at school before the war starts?

if it before the war...
then whay akira and L-elf there...
akaira always in her room after being bullied, and she came out on war,in order to save shoko..
L-elf first appearance in hijacking modul 77


Holy shit I didn't noticed that Akira and L-Elf is in this pictures too. Now this makes no sense at all if you compare this picture with my question above, lol. Back to my original quote again:

Monty_Mon said:
This last episode feels like paying a prostitute for my first time, a little ackward but very exciting and at the very end when I'm about to climax, she leaves, leaving behind a bottle of hand lotion and a very confused boy.


In some moment the teacher/scientist (I forgot his name) of said this about unit 01 "(...) its a very special unit(...)". In other moment Pino said she consumes very little for herself and the rest is for the functioning of the Valvraves. In other moment Haruto denies feed himself and the Valvraves cease to function and then he made the "feed contract" with L-Elf.

Said this, we can conclude:
1)The unit 01 send most (or all) runes to the other units need. It would explain why the pilots of the other units (3, 4, 5 and 6) don't suffer memory loss.
2)If as long a Valvrave isn't used, the rune consumption is very low and by this is possible live without losing memories (the great memory loss that Haruto and Marie suffered only happens when the rune recover/production don't follow the rune consumption or the "limiter" is broken).

I think I forgot to tell something, so if anything didn't became clear just ask and I will try to answer. Hope it was useful.
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x_Teu_x said:

In some moment the teacher/scientist (I forgot his name) of said this about unit 01 "(...) its a very special unit(...)". In other moment Pino said she consumes very little for herself and the rest is for the functioning of the Valvraves. In other moment Haruto denies feed himself and the Valvraves cease to function and then he made the "feed contract" with L-Elf.

Said this, we can conclude:
1)The unit 01 send most (or all) runes to the other units need. It would explain why the pilots of the other units (3, 4, 5 and 6) don't suffer memory loss.
2)If as long a Valvrave isn't used, the rune consumption is very low and by this is possible live without losing memories (the great memory loss that Haruto and Marie suffered only happens when the rune recover/production don't follow the rune consumption or the "limiter" is broken).

I think I forgot to tell something, so if anything didn't became clear just ask and I will try to answer. Hope it was useful.

I am not exactly sure but I thought Marie suffered great memory loss because she was incompatible?

Also, this show left me bewildered. o.O I wonder if there's an OVA or something to explain things up? ;l
Jan 4, 2014 7:03 AM
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"Do you believe in human beings?"

Y/N

All the lost memories, perhaps Pino/Plu found a way to reconstruct them, and the next bastard to enter in that will receive them all

Drawnfreak said:
The only thing this episode had going for it: HarutoxL-elf. And I'd never even cared to that degree. Saki and Shouko were a mass of unimportant.


And X-Eins line to Cain "You betrayed my heart!" Lolwtf

Such homoerotic subtexts for the slashers lmao

Jan 4, 2014 10:38 PM

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If just Haruto survived and ended up with saki it would be perfect ending it was so great anime but ending made me so sad 9/10
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Jan 5, 2014 2:37 PM

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haha so many people hated this ending xD I really liked the ending, but just kind of confused since so much wasn't really explained, at the very least not in enough detail.

Well out of this massacre, at least Saki and eru-erufu survived (my fav. two chars), but too bad for Tokishima Haruto. It'd be cool if you could keep one memory or w/a and survive =P

Everybody hates Q-vier, nothing else really needs to be said about that. Though idk wtf was about that "waffe shield"

Haha, so the council of 101 had been plotting these for decades or w/a and then it quickly shows that they were all killed, it just felt kind of abrupt.

Well what I thought to be average initially at beginning of S1 turned out to develop pretty far (maybe too far since a lot left unexplained), so I give this a high rating.
Maybe I miss so many plot problems in series b/c I watch so many series at a time, plus 1 ep a week (which I don't always keep up the pace), so it's probably that I take it one episode at a time =/

Jan 6, 2014 12:42 AM
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rillynx said:
JeffreyZin said:
This anime had suffered the same fate just like Code Geass & Guilty Crown. I mean none of these shows had a happy ending.

Maybe the writer is just wanna fuck things up by doing some 'bloothbath' scene, the suffering of main protagonist & of course, many things left unexplained.

rillynx said:
i don't check other page..
but, can some body give me answer of this picture

http://i.imgur.com/xDeylME.jpg

why akira and L-elf in the picture,
if it after war why yamada and haruto alive..
if it before war, whay akira out in field..


I thought this is all memorial photos during their happy times at school before the war starts?

if it before the war...
then whay akira and L-elf there...
akaira always in her room after being bullied, and she came out on war,in order to save shoko..
L-elf first appearance in hijacking modul 77


Because those were most likely taken when they were floating around being their own country in Season 1 and during the period between S1 and S2. Or did you guys forget that they were actually doing normal stuff for a bit during that time?

Bz said:

I am not exactly sure but I thought Marie suffered great memory loss because she was incompatible?


Nah, if she were incompatible the valvrave would kill her if she tried to pilot it. She was just a test pilot and they pulled her out of the program because she would have been killed if they kept going on with the testing (due to losing her runes).

amc9988 said:
wtf, I feel like they left a lot of ideas that they have thought during season 1,I mean who the heck saki make promise with, and what about the 7 vavlrave???

Also they should add some sad insert song during Haruto's death so I can at least feel anything, I feel sad when inuzuka and yamada died. but haruto...I was like "Oh he died, okay"


Pretty sure the promise was with haruto, I forgot what it was exactly but it was something along the lines of not giving up. I thought the 7th valvrave was speculation though?
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haha so many people hated this ending xD I really liked the ending, but just kind of confused since so much wasn't really explained, at the very least not in enough detail.

Well out of this massacre, at least Saki and eru-erufu survived (my fav. two chars), but too bad for Tokishima Haruto. It'd be cool if you could keep one memory or w/a and survive =P

Everybody hates Q-vier, nothing else really needs to be said about that. Though idk wtf was about that "waffe shield"

Haha, so the council of 101 had been plotting these for decades or w/a and then it quickly shows that they were all killed, it just felt kind of abrupt.

Well what I thought to be average initially at beginning of S1 turned out to develop pretty far (maybe too far since a lot left unexplained), so I give this a high rating.
Maybe I miss so many plot problems in series b/c I watch so many series at a time, plus 1 ep a week (which I don't always keep up the pace), so it's probably that I take it one episode at a time =/


The ending was so bad, just thinking about it makes me want to puke. Valvrave s2 was my favorite show of the season (until I watched the last episode). Boku Janai is one of the best anime song I've heard in a long time, and now I can't even listen to it without getting butthurt. Feels bad.
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So many questions left unanswered. I feel like I've been cheated.


I can't believe you really get me started. Yes, I heard you, obviously. QFT (Quoted for truth).

the question was,

Who is the mysterious kid during flash forward?

What happened to Haruto's father?

What about ARUS President & Magius people? I thought they were immortal & they can't be killed?


1. The kid is most likely L-elf's son, but in the grand scheme of things it really doesn't matter who he is does it?

2. They left Haruto's father where he was, another "doesn't matter" instance imo.

3. The magius are immortal but not invincible, severe bodily harm can kill them, such in the case of Cain, Yamada, Inuzuka etc..
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ooh guilty crown reloaded


Except GC was more hated because of the ridiculous hype


I think it was less entertaining too. This had a rush ending and lots of stupid things but the stupid things it had were kind of fun while in Guilty crown they where only cringe worthy.
Unfortunately both had horrible characters(Sorry but Haruto sucked and not because he wasn't kicking ass since L-Elf sucked too in my eyes). Shouko was mediocre and bland, Akira was just the moe factor, others were idiots. I guess only Saki had some kind of appeal.
Jan 8, 2014 8:57 AM

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So many plot wholes man what the fuck!!
Sad two see 2 people die ,Cain died?! But the preview ,Saki bowed to Cain or did I miss something?!?
Who is the prince who's child?!
Gosh I hope there is a season 3
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skudoops said:
JeffreyZin said:
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So many questions left unanswered. I feel like I've been cheated.


I can't believe you really get me started. Yes, I heard you, obviously. QFT (Quoted for truth).

the question was,

Who is the mysterious kid during flash forward?

What happened to Haruto's father?

What about ARUS President & Magius people? I thought they were immortal & they can't be killed?


1. The kid is most likely L-elf's son, but in the grand scheme of things it really doesn't matter who he is does it?

2. They left Haruto's father where he was, another "doesn't matter" instance imo.

3. The magius are immortal but not invincible, severe bodily harm can kill them, such in the case of Cain, Yamada, Inuzuka etc..


Oerter that or they killed eachother
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F*CK THIS SH*T!
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Jan 9, 2014 6:29 AM

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I just finished watching it. Why the heck is Shouko still alive and she took VV1(red) like come on she should have died in the ship at episode 10-11

I am puzzled if both countries were merged?

I thought Valvrave pilots cannot die and heal from wounds so why are they dying?
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This....show...was....AWESOME! not, shit load of 1 dimensional characters, just more cutting corners really, show has more p(l)ot holes than the road two blocks down from my house, which is bad because that road hasn't been paved in almost 23 years now.

What's more retarded is now finding out the script writer was the script/creator of Code Geass...I guess he's a 1 hit wonder script writer...


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Jan 13, 2014 12:59 AM
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RosyXkid said:
So many plot wholes man what the fuck!!
Sad two see 2 people die ,Cain died?! But the preview ,Saki bowed to Cain or did I miss something?!?
Who is the prince who's child?!
Gosh I hope there is a season 3


Janoski said:
F*CK THIS SH*T!


SUNRISE (Producer) & the writer always fucked everything up. I mean that preview NEVER happen in the actual show. I mean SERIOUSLY?! That makes NO sense!

Renaultclio101 said:
I thought Valvrave pilots cannot die and heal from wounds so why are they dying?


That's what I wanna know. Kyuuma & Yamada 'Thunder' is dead too.
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Being able to survive being shot, and being stabbed, and living forever doesn't necessarily mean they are entirely immortal. They don't regrow body parts. So in the case of Inuzuka and Thunder, well their bodies completely exploded into space dust. They had no remaining consciousness to heal themselves. Surviving being shot is very different from being cut in half, then exploding in a vacuum where there isn't any air to begin with.
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Janoski said:
F*CK THIS SH*T!


Talk about was a complete TROLLFEST and I should've known!
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In this thread: people get confused about the difference between a plot hole and a dangling plotline. Pro tip - Not having an answer to something doesnt make it a plot hole.
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Janoski said:
F*CK THIS SH*T!


+1

I will stay away from mecha anime for awhile ... kinda disappointed with this show, it's not even close to the legendary show "code geass"....



Jan 17, 2014 1:59 AM
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ryshin said:
I will stay away from mecha anime for awhile ... kinda disappointed with this show, it's not even close to the legendary show "code geass"....


There's an another show called Buddy Complex & Nobunaga The Fool my friend.

Uthred said:
In this thread: people get confused about the difference between a plot hole and a dangling plotline. Pro tip - Not having an answer to something doesnt make it a plot hole.


Quoted for Truth.
Jan 17, 2014 12:31 PM

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Am I the only one satisfied with the ending and all? Oh well, it seems so.
Jan 20, 2014 6:17 PM

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TenshiGeraku said:
Am I the only one satisfied with the ending and all? Oh well, it seems so.


I actually liked it myself. Although I'm still trying to piece together what happened with the time skip, I really like how they showed all of Shouko's pictures in Haruto's Valverave, to serve as a memorial to the man who sacrificed his memories to fight for them. It really ended things on a sweeter note considering the revelation of the Magius led to a conflict that is never resolved. I think Shouko ended up taking on Haruto's Valvrave in order to dedicate her life to the promise made between L-Elf and Haruto and help humans and magius coexist.

Hmm, overall I have to say this was quite the series. I feel like S2 was a step up from S1 and although there were still moments that had me bursting out laughing, was able to remain compelling and kept me interested and entertained. I wish they had made this 13 episode though, since I feel they could have touched on some things, especially the time skip, in more detail with it. But I realize not every question can be answered nor are they meant to be, for that can take away from the romance of imagination. Oh and let's not forget this is Konymeiki Valvrape, the series that abandons common sense and reason to bring us the most laughable intelligent twists ever.

Still, I was entertained by this second half. 8/10.
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Finally got around to watch the second season and did so in one go.

It was definitely entertaining, although the ending wasn't satisfactory. So many questions left unanswered. Especially the future scenes weren't explored in enough detail.

I was honestly pissed to see Shouko being alive after the timeskip. Oh how much I wished for her to die. At least that lunatic Q-Vier died. Although his behaviour made at least some sense considering the conditioning they were undergoing at a young age.

Saki was the best girl for me. Didn't like that we saw her talking about her feelings for Haruto just minutes before reaching the conclusion, but her reaction to his death wasn't even briefly shown. But the lack of time is to blame for this, AGAIN.

Furthermore, there were many ridiculous events and decisions that literally made me facepalm. So much stupidity at times, it was unbearable.

One of many examples:
Did the Valvrave's pilots really capture a Phantom and despite running tests, not bother freeing the people aboard it, fully aware of the fact that losing too many runes leads to death? REALLY? And afterwards they are all TOTALLY incapable of explaining shit.
Haruto seemingly didn't even try to explain the situation to Shouko. They were accused of feeding on people, whereupon Shouko asked Haruto personally but all he did, was mutter ambiguous and misleading shit, thus implying they in fact captured and killed those people themselves. He didn't even try to tell her that the ship wasn't theirs.

There's definitely much left to be desired. Nevertheless, I cannot deny that it was a fun show.
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I wonder how Code Geass Boukoku No Akito will end up being a same thing later?
Jan 22, 2014 12:37 AM
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Clearly Shoko did replace Haruto in Unit 01. It seems she left as soon as the memorial for Haruto and the others was complete. The Prince could be the decendent of both Haruto and L-elf since he kind of looks like both of them. Saki could of become pregnant with Haruto's child when he lost control and raped her. We don't know how long the incubation takes since both were already immortal when it happened. L-elf probably got together with someone after he completely got over Lisette's loss and had a child of his own. Sometime in the following generations in L'elf's descendent line and Haruto's descendent line got together (remeber it is 220 years) resulting in the future prince. It was hinted L-elf was also descendent of royalty. What happened to Satomi in the future? Is that Satomi or his descendent? If it was him he should of recognized Shoko immediately. If not what happened to him in the future as he should be just as much an immortal like the rest Saki, Shoko, and his sister Akira as he temporarily piloted Unit 01 making him immortal. Mari was once a test pilot of Unit 01 when she was younger. Because she was a pilot she still has a childish appearance she had when she was a test pilot even in highschool so same should be applied to Satomi.
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Does anyone know what this picture says???

http://i.4cdn.org/a/src/1390412996992.jpg
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http://i.4cdn.org/a/src/1390412996992.jpg


What is that supposed to be? It says 4chan.org.
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So.... For me. I hate my life.... I mean that's just great.

I should've say 'I FREAKING TOLD YOU SO!!!' In every single episodes despite plot twist, plot twist & twisted plot.

And I really should've known that. But now the show is ended, unfortunately it was too late for me to say.
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I don't think I ever wrote how i felt about this ending when i completed this season of Valvrave but something made me come here to read the comments and from what I've read it's a simple.

Should this be given a 3rd season NO EFFINN WAY!
Like everyone else I also want to know who is who as there is a lot of black holes in the stories of characters that played a less important roll but defined our resolve that made us want to see the story through till the end.
And whats left is more questions than answers and a feeling of disgust seeping at the back of my head.
Now don't get me wrong I still like some of us here enjoyed the anime but why must I speculate how the story is suppose to end. The writers just...
Jan 25, 2014 9:32 PM
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katsu044 said:
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So many plot holes... Who the hell are the Golden 7? Who's that prince? Who was future Saki fighting back in season 1?

This. Glad that L-elf and A-drei is alive.
^^ i swear the writers must have scrapped all of that once they knew they crammed so much shit into one series but really Valvrave after all your crazy moments then toning it down a bit S2 this is the rushed ass ending we get?..c'mon!!


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The writers just...


trolled us till he treat like bonkers or something. I still can't believe a lot of people still traumatize of this one NOT only Code Geass R2 & Guilty Crown. I need to clear my head for a while otherwise it gets stuck-in-my-head all day...

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Ending was terrible end of story. The series needs an OVA badly.
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I hate how everyone abuse "plothole" and "trianwreck" term's here. This is so stupid, the fact that something is unexplained or doesn't fit into real-world logic doesn't make it a Plot hole =.=

In my opinion it was great and fresh ride. Valvrave certainly isn't the most intelligent or inspiraional thing I've watched in my life, but it was hell of good enterntainment.

I loved how while watching it, I've never seen things coming, dramatic reveals were hard to predict and pretty crazy at many times. It was like watching a Tatantino's movie, crazy as hell, but great in it's own form.

Overall 9/10
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That was bad/10.
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I hate how everyone abuse "plothole" and "trianwreck" term's here. This is so stupid, the fact that something is unexplained or doesn't fit into real-world logic doesn't make it a Plot hole =.=


I think they want to point out why some part in this show were still remains but others were ignored till it left wondering what just happened.
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Pretty great and wild... but certainly entertaining.
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I can't believe why are these people in this thread really wanted to see the bad guys killing off Shouko so bad....

For me, IF some characters were douchebag (Mostly Figaro but Q-Vier), It feels like i'm gonna say FUCK THEM.
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This scene doesn't have in ss2 : http://i.imgur.com/HDa5HXnl.jpg
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You IDIOTS!!

Do you know how similar this ending is to Code Geass and Gundam Wing.

1. Creation of a new era
2. Death of the main character
3. Honor of the main character
4. Return of peace to the world temporarily

And you guys are complaining WTF? Yes I do agree some of these were rushed and the suspense we had was killed off literally (Council of 101) dies. But what do you expect from a mecha anime like this?

But to be honest even if I bag on this, I do wish there was a resolution between Haruto and Shoko directly but hey that's what it is. Like how Nunally never knew the intentions of Lelouch until the end (also Karin)
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You IDIOTS!!

Do you know how similar this ending is to Code Geass and Gundam Wing.

1. Creation of a new era
2. Death of the main character
3. Honor of the main character
4. Return of peace to the world temporarily

And you guys are complaining WTF? Yes I do agree some of these were rushed and the suspense we had was killed off literally (Council of 101) dies. But what do you expect from a mecha anime like this?

But to be honest even if I bag on this, I do wish there was a resolution between Haruto and Shoko directly but hey that's what it is. Like how Nunally never knew the intentions of Lelouch until the end (also Karin)


The climax of Code Geass and Gundam Wing were built up very well. And still they are considered train wrecks. This is so rushed it just feels like the ending is shoved down your throat.
Aside that, my shipping was not canon so i'm bitter .__.
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MotRin said:
diamondketo said:
You IDIOTS!!

Do you know how similar this ending is to Code Geass and Gundam Wing.

1. Creation of a new era
2. Death of the main character
3. Honor of the main character
4. Return of peace to the world temporarily

And you guys are complaining WTF? Yes I do agree some of these were rushed and the suspense we had was killed off literally (Council of 101) dies. But what do you expect from a mecha anime like this?

But to be honest even if I bag on this, I do wish there was a resolution between Haruto and Shoko directly but hey that's what it is. Like how Nunally never knew the intentions of Lelouch until the end (also Karin)


The climax of Code Geass and Gundam Wing were built up very well. And still they are considered train wrecks. This is so rushed it just feels like the ending is shoved down your throat.
Aside that, my shipping was not canon so i'm bitter .__.


Concluding:
They were great and well made trainwrecks, and Valvrave was shi- *cof cof* not that good (just fine and sometimes pretty entertaining, but that's all)
Also, that High School Musical: Democracy Expansion pack and this goddamn ending were just painful to watch.
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OK here's the explanation on the ending which I think was pretty awesome though a little short.

So we end with the golden seven "blessed ones" several of which are already dead:
-Haruto
-Shoko who becomes the new unit 1 pilot
-Akira
-Maria the fist test pilot for unit 1
-"Thunder"
-The blue sheild valvrave guy
-Rukino Saki

In the flash forward of episode 15 Satomi says that the prince's grandmother is rembokoji and there is only one female rembokoji : Akira.

Now judging from the wedding scene in the last episode I think the princes granfather is (was?) A-Drei since Akira was one of the "options" for him to choose along with shoko, Saki and that royalist women. Since A-Drei was the next in line to be the successor of the royal family (From what he said to L-Elf in the early episodes that he was to become his right hand man).
The prince really looks like L-elf but unlike A-Drei nothing was pointing towards the fact that L-Elf had any interest in the women that were alive by the end of the last episode. L-elf wasn't royalty and A-drei also has white hair so...

The council 101 is dead, A-Drei is a leader of the new country's army judging from those war scenes and after 200 years Saki is still fighting due to her promise to haruto to never give up/stop fighting. Those green beings at the end were probably some sort of new magius just like pino and plu were some new artificial magius of their time and... thats about it.

This I think ties up all the plot holes and loose ends everyone seems to be complaining about, but I agree that an OVA would be nice to wrap things up.
If you have any input on this please leave a comment.

Cheers.
3oceanMar 2, 2014 7:13 PM
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lot of plots holesss and i dont like the mast murder of students and i cant give it an eight or a nine which was the score i gave for the first season

7/10 and this is generous..
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na35899 said:
lot of plots holesss and i dont like the mast murder of students and i cant give it an eight or a nine which was the score i gave for the first season

7/10 and this is generous..


What plot holes?.
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Honestly, they should have stuck with the formula they had on season one. They writers tried to up the drama a bit too much and the season suffered for it, especially Haruto.

*goes back to writing Valvrave fanfic*
Mar 5, 2014 12:56 AM

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and not a single feel was felt that day...

shame.. had such potential..

7/10
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FUCK, So they Were Made to be Liars...AGAIN!!!! Q-vier died. Yeye, pity that he did not die with regrets and with Scream.

Final fight, and Damn Cain is strong....But Now, X) Goodbye Cain-Bitch!!! Die With SCREAM!!!!!

Haruto, your self-sacrificing nature, and you Legacy, will live on, In new Galactic Order, where Peace for both of Races is Guarded with Shoko, Saki and Akira. They will not disappoint your Memory. Now Sayonara, tell Kyūma, Aina, Mari and "Thunder" Yamada don't worry. Rest in Peace
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3ocean said:
OK here's the explanation on the ending which I think was pretty awesome though a little short.

So we end with the golden seven "blessed ones" several of which are already dead:
-Haruto
-Shoko who becomes the new unit 1 pilot
-Akira
-Maria the fist test pilot for unit 1
-"Thunder"
-The blue sheild valvrave guy
-Rukino Saki

In the flash forward of episode 15 Satomi says that the prince's grandmother is rembokoji and there is only one female rembokoji : Akira.

Now judging from the wedding scene in the last episode I think the princes granfather is (was?) A-Drei since Akira was one of the "options" for him to choose along with shoko, Saki and that royalist women. Since A-Drei was the next in line to be the successor of the royal family (From what he said to L-Elf in the early episodes that he was to become his right hand man).
The prince really looks like L-elf but unlike A-Drei nothing was pointing towards the fact that L-Elf had any interest in the women that were alive by the end of the last episode. L-elf wasn't royalty and A-drei also has white hair so...

The council 101 is dead, A-Drei is a leader of the new country's army judging from those war scenes and after 200 years Saki is still fighting due to her promise to haruto to never give up/stop fighting. Those green beings at the end were probably some sort of new magius just like pino and plu were some new artificial magius of their time and... thats about it.

This I think ties up all the plot holes and loose ends everyone seems to be complaining about, but I agree that an OVA would be nice to wrap things up.
If you have any input on this please leave a comment.

Cheers.


Godmother or Grandmother? That makes a huge difference. Still alot of plot holes, the child is unclaimed.
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I still CANNOT believe why is everyone always sit there & take it as an excuses over stuff never addresses & etc.

For me, I CARE about this series so much after Code Geass & Guilty Crown, literally. Typical writer who did this 'stupid' stuff.
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Vooo said:
3ocean said:
OK here's the explanation on the ending which I think was pretty awesome though a little short.

So we end with the golden seven "blessed ones" several of which are already dead:
-Haruto
-Shoko who becomes the new unit 1 pilot
-Akira
-Maria the fist test pilot for unit 1
-"Thunder"
-The blue sheild valvrave guy
-Rukino Saki

In the flash forward of episode 15 Satomi says that the prince's grandmother is rembokoji and there is only one female rembokoji : Akira.

Now judging from the wedding scene in the last episode I think the princes granfather is (was?) A-Drei since Akira was one of the "options" for him to choose along with shoko, Saki and that royalist women. Since A-Drei was the next in line to be the successor of the royal family (From what he said to L-Elf in the early episodes that he was to become his right hand man).
The prince really looks like L-elf but unlike A-Drei nothing was pointing towards the fact that L-Elf had any interest in the women that were alive by the end of the last episode. L-elf wasn't royalty and A-drei also has white hair so...

The council 101 is dead, A-Drei is a leader of the new country's army judging from those war scenes and after 200 years Saki is still fighting due to her promise to haruto to never give up/stop fighting. Those green beings at the end were probably some sort of new magius just like pino and plu were some new artificial magius of their time and... thats about it.

This I think ties up all the plot holes and loose ends everyone seems to be complaining about, but I agree that an OVA would be nice to wrap things up.
If you have any input on this please leave a comment.

Cheers.


Godmother or Grandmother? That makes a huge difference. Still alot of plot holes, the child is unclaimed.


Yes that would change alot. If its godmother than considering the facial features L-elf has to be the ancester.

That's ONE "plot hole", witch in reality is more a lack of closure than a plot hole due to the fact we don't know who the "mother" is. It doesn't contradict anything.

So there no more plot holes. ^^
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Just finished Valvrave,gotta say it was good,but like everyone here already noticed,it had some things that they didn't explain.like for example WHY JUST HARUTO LOST HIS MEMORIES? and Saki /Akira and the others pilots haven't? What was the pendant that Saki had on her chest all the time and looking at it?i mean what was his significance? For the question who was that "prince's boy" i would say one of A-drei's descendant,and for the question who's his mother(another Hole) no1 can answer that,but it's not one of the MC (Akira/Saki/Shoko).
A good series but because of these "holes" i'm gonna give it an 8/10.
Of course if anyone is kind enough to give me some answers of first 2 questions i would be grateful ;)
pulamidorieMar 21, 2014 9:33 AM
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