How do you address someone who identifies themselves as a non-binary gender?

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I dislike the term "cis", it's so arrogant. Like, because they are not normal, they have to alter and create new words, to hide that lack of normality.

I don't like that it gives people an excuse to slander a cisperson because they're not NB or trans.

Oct 1, 2017 10:08 PM

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Honestly, I'd just call them by their sex and if they don't like it well too bad.

Oct 2, 2017 2:36 AM

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Mayuka said:

Nyu said:
I dislike the term "cis", it's so arrogant. Like, because they are not normal, they have to alter and create new words, to hide that lack of normality.

I don't like that it gives people an excuse to slander a cisperson because they're not NB or trans.

How is it slander? I could understand if you were talking about phrases like "cis scum" (which is nowhere near as bad as a lot of things transgender and non-binary people are called, anyway), but "cis" literally just indicates that you aren't transitioning. That's it.

Oct 2, 2017 3:40 AM

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AssortedEmotions said:

How is it slander? I could understand if you were talking about phrases like "cis scum" (which is nowhere near as bad as a lot of things transgender and non-binary people are called, anyway), but "cis" literally just indicates that you aren't transitioning. That's it.

They are just salty. Probably few decades ago people were saying the same thing about terms like "heterosexual". "B-b-but why are you calling us heterosexual, we are just normal okay?". Don't pay too much attention to kids.

Well, it's beneficial to me to take a few moments of my time to attempt to reeducate them on the matter; if they don't wish to learn, I will naturally leave them to their delusions. It is better for me, as a non-binary person, to attempt to root out these viewpoints and replace them, to prevent real-life discrimination that could bring me harm (not saying that everyone taking these views would take a physical stance against it, but some might, and do).

I do agree with you; I recall for a short while many people I knew objected to being labeled heterosexual, not because they weren't, but because they thought it was used as a slur. It is irritating that people, even many with "higher education", won't take a few moments to think about a word's definition before objecting to its use.

Oct 2, 2017 4:17 AM

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I mean all you have to do is ask, usually they'll have something in mind

Oct 2, 2017 9:51 AM

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Check on their tumblr, it's written near the oh wait I don't give a shit if my confusion is offensive.

Oct 2, 2017 12:25 PM

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AssortedEmotions said:

Mayuka said:

I don't like that it gives people an excuse to slander a cisperson because they're not NB or trans.

How is it slander? I could understand if you were talking about phrases like "cis scum" (which is nowhere near as bad as a lot of things transgender and non-binary people are called, anyway), but "cis" literally just indicates that you aren't transitioning. That's it.

"Kill all cis people"

"The cis are back at it again"

Tell me that's okay to you

kawaii96desu said:
They are just salty. Probably few decades ago people were saying the same thing about terms like "heterosexual". "B-b-but why are you calling us heterosexual, we are just normal okay?". Don't pay too much attention to kids.

Did you just compare gender dysphoria with sexuality? LOL

Most people are born as the gender they like.

But you can't say most people are heterosexual because that's untrue.

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Oct 2, 2017 12:46 PM

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Mayuka said:

AssortedEmotions said:

How is it slander? I could understand if you were talking about phrases like "cis scum" (which is nowhere near as bad as a lot of things transgender and non-binary people are called, anyway), but "cis" literally just indicates that you aren't transitioning. That's it.

"Kill all cis people"

"The cis are back at it again"

Tell me that's okay to you

That's not okay, no more than the other way around (which I see a lot more often). But you weren't talking about phrases like that, you were talking about the word "cis". There's nothing offensive or slanderous about the word, just as there's nothing offensive or slanderous about the word trans. They're just opposites; if you're trans, you're transitioning or want to transition; if you're cis, you're not or don't. Simple as that.

"We need to exterminate those disgusting trans people."

That's not okay, either, now is it? But "trans" itself is nothing but a descriptor, similar to "tall/short", "thin/chubby", "white/black/Asian/Hispanic", or, yes, "cis".

Think about it. If someone said the above sentence but replaced "trans" with any of those, it wouldn't be acceptable. The descriptor does nothing but indicate about whom the person is talking.

Oct 2, 2017 12:49 PM

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Still... you should've read my post a bit more carefully.

You are comparing heterosexuality with cisgenderism. You are making a comparison when you make an example statement.

Source to study. I've seen other studies that show other results.

1 in 3 American Young Adults Identify on Bisexual Spectrum
https://www.advocate.com/bisexuality/2015/08/20/study-1-3-american-young-adults-identify-bisexual-spectrum

Literally half of the girls I've met in real life or online are bisexual. Maybe 10% of girls I talk to are lesbian. With guys, it's like 20% are bi/gay. The times are changing. LGBT is accepted nowadays so therefore, more people are coming out as ______sexual or ________gender.

Gender dysphoria is not normal. Bisexuality and homosexuality are normal. It's not a fair comparison.

AssortedEmotions said:

That's not okay, no more than the other way around (which I see a lot more often). But you weren't talking about phrases like that, you were talking about the word "cis". There's nothing offensive or slanderous about the word, just as there's nothing offensive or slanderous about the word trans. They're just opposites; if you're trans, you're transitioning or want to transition; if you're cis, you're not or don't. Simple as that.

"We need to exterminate those disgusting trans people."

That's not okay, either, now is it? But "trans" itself is nothing but a descriptor, similar to "tall/short", "thin/chubby", "white/black/Asian/Hispanic", or, yes, "cis".

Think about it. If someone said the above sentence but replaced "trans" with any of those, it wouldn't be acceptable. The descriptor does nothing but indicate about whom the person is talking.

I think the word trans is fine but we do not need to label ourselves as cis when people ask.

I find it ridiculous that people on tumblr and twitter actually write in "I'm a cis -insert gender-" in their bio. It's unnecessary. Your identity is not relevant.

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kawaii96desu said:
but the thing is that you are still not reading.

You have to give me a source link as well.

Please elaborate on your side of the argument.

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Mayuka said:

AssortedEmotions said:

That's not okay, no more than the other way around (which I see a lot more often). But you weren't talking about phrases like that, you were talking about the word "cis". There's nothing offensive or slanderous about the word, just as there's nothing offensive or slanderous about the word trans. They're just opposites; if you're trans, you're transitioning or want to transition; if you're cis, you're not or don't. Simple as that.

"We need to exterminate those disgusting trans people."

That's not okay, either, now is it? But "trans" itself is nothing but a descriptor, similar to "tall/short", "thin/chubby", "white/black/Asian/Hispanic", or, yes, "cis".

Think about it. If someone said the above sentence but replaced "trans" with any of those, it wouldn't be acceptable. The descriptor does nothing but indicate about whom the person is talking.

I think the word trans is fine but we do not need to label ourselves as cis when people ask.

I find it ridiculous that people on tumblr and twitter actually write in "I'm a cis -insert gender-" in their bio. It's unnecessary. Your identity is not relevant.

If someone asks, "Hey, are you trans?" then saying, "No," is the same as saying, "I'm cis." I mean, it'd be nice if we were past that point, socially, where people feel the need to know about it right off the bat, and where people despise it. But it's just a descriptor; if someone asked you about some other physical character trait, it wouldn't make sense to not tell them in most cases. (Though, that said, asking if someone is trans is extremely rude; you're basically asking what genitals they have/want, which is highly inappropriate unless you're planning to have sex with them in the near future.)

But if you misgender someone, whether they're cis, trans, or non-binary, and they correct you, it's only polite to stick with their preference. It doesn't hurt you, and it's beneficial to them psychologically. Studies using MRIs have shown that social rejection triggers the same effects in the brain as physical pain; by refusing to acknowledge their identity, you are hurting them. (Here's the study I read. This one and this one are also applicable.)

Also, while gender dysphoria may be considered an illness, being trans is not. The only known effective treatment for gender dysphoria is transition (and innumerable things have been tried; social rejection (including various forms of emotional, mental, and physical abuse), same-sex hormone treatment, speech therapy, medications—none of it has ever worked, just like "pray the gay away" places don't work). Gender dysphoria is an illness; transition is the only treatment. That is, I think, the best way to think about it.

I agree that it's unnecessary to introduce yourself as cis. It's also unnecessary to introduce yourself as trans. If you're misgendered in either case (called he as a she, called she as a he, called either as a they), though, it's natural to want to correct the person—if you care; some, perhaps many, people don't, but that's no excuse to be insensitive about other people's preferences. I've known cis people who would frequently get called the wrong pronouns/forms of address (miss, sir, etc.), and it annoyed them, too. Would you tell them to suck it up and deal with it?

I hope this clarifies my stance.

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kawaii96desu said:

Mayuka said:

You have to give me a source link as well.

Please elaborate on your side of the argument.

Ok, I give up. My source is wikipedia because I was too lazy to search for a more reliable one. 3, 20, 97 - it doesn't matter. My point was completely different, I tried to say something using my broken English, I guess it didn't work, but right now I don't have the time to structure it better.

But my point is that most people aren't straight and that's whats going on in 2017. Therefore sexuality can't be compared to gender.

@AssortedEmotions
Yeah, I don't really see a need for another word to describe myself. I'm not trans.

I've said in my previous posts that I will call people by their preferred pronouns. So I'm not arguing that it's okay to disrespect them.

Gender dysphoria is when you do not accept your current sex so you transition so that's the same as trans to me? I don't see what's wrong with acknowledging that. There are many trans people online who say that they have gender dysphoria. We don't need to pretend like it has negative connotation.

I agree with the rest of your post.

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kawaii96desu said:

Mayuka said:
Did you just compare gender dysphoria with sexuality? LOL

No, you should've read my post more carefully.

Mayuka said:

But you can't say most people are heterosexual because that's untrue.

The study found that 97.4% of men identified as heterosexual, 1.6% as homosexual and 0.9% as bisexual.

For women 97.7% identified as heterosexual, 0.8% as lesbian and 1.4% as bisexual.

Still... you should've read my post a bit more carefully. Here's the original.

kawaii96desu said:

They are just salty. Probably few decades ago people were saying the same thing about terms like "heterosexual". "B-b-but why are you calling us heterosexual, we are just normal okay?". Don't pay too much attention to kids.

Kay but when you ask people stuff like:

"Any gay experience?":

Men: asked face to face: 11.4 Asked online: 17.3%
With gentile contact? : 9.9% Asked online: 13.5%

Women Face to face: 14.5% Online: 19.7%
With Genital contact: Face to face asked: 9.2% Asked online: 10.5%

You can see how asking a question in a different way will get you different responses.

"It depends also where you are asking about LGBT peoples as well because:
The Williams Institute at UCLA School of Law, a sexual orientation law think tank, released a study in April 2011[66] estimating based on its research that 1.7 percent of American adults identify as gay or lesbian, while another 1.8 percent identify as bisexual. Drawing on information from four recent national and two state-level population-based surveys, the analyses suggest that there are more than 8 million adults in the US who are lesbian, gay, or bisexual, comprising 3.5% of the adult population. Of men, 2.2% identify as gay and an additional 1.4% as bisexual. Of women, 1.1% identify as lesbian and an additional 2.2% as bisexual."

Vs.
"In a Survation poll on adults aged 40–70, 92.5% identified as heterosexual, 3.5% as gay, 2.4% as bisexual, 0.5% as Other and 1% refused to disclose their sexual orientation. Those under 60 were less likely to identify as heterosexual than those aged 60–70. A gay identity was more common among men (6.1%) than women (1%), though no differences were found in the share identifying as bisexual (2.4% versus 2.5%). London had a higher share of middle aged or older people identifying as gay (8%) or bisexual (6%) than other parts of the country.

2017
According to a nationally representative study organized by Kantar TNS, 87% of British men aged 18 to 30 years identify as heterosexual, 7% as homosexual, 5% as bisexual, and 2% as other.

2017 BBC generational survey
An Ipsos MORI survey on behalf of BBC[53] found that British people aged 16-22 (also called Generation Z) have lower odds to identify as exclusively straight (66%) than those who belong to the Millennial generation (71%), Generation X (85%), or Baby Boomers (88%). Within Generation Z, there were several important gender differences in sexual identity: young men were more likely to identify as completely heterosexual than young women (73% v. 59%) whereas young women had higher chances to identify as non-exclusively straight (19%) and bisexual (14%) than young men (10% and 5%, respectively). There were no significant gender differences in the share identifying as predominantly or exclusively homosexual (5% for each sex), but Generation Z men were significantly more likely to refuse to disclose their sexual orientation (7%) than their female counterparts (3%). Significantly more white youth identified as exclusively homosexual (3%) than those of ethnic minority backgrounds (0%) but no other ethnic differences were found. Exclusively heterosexual youths were also less likely to describe themselves as fairly or very active in politics, but they were more likely to believe that they enjoy a better life than Millennials"

It does very much depend on what country you speak of. Who does the survey. How many people are doing it and what demographic.

But fairly safe to say LGBT lifestyles in the states are anywhere from 1%-10% depending on where you live. Heavily metropolitan area? yeah you are getting into a 7-12% zone. Small town? you might be the only one... lol.

but yeah... most people are straight. lol. But cities have pretty decent concentrations of other kinds of people.

The anime community in a nutshell.

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@Mayuka
That was my entire point, though, regarding that; it's literally just another way to say it. People in the thread were talking about it being a slur or whatnot, and there's just no reason for it to be interpreted as such.

After transitioning, most transgender people who participate in related studies report that their gender dysphoria has been alleviated (at least partially). That doesn't mean they're no longer trans; they just finished the treatment, transitioning, so their symptoms, gender dysphoria, went away. It may not have a negative connotation, but there is certainly a stigma attached to everything related to the term "trans". Explaining it in a way that might make people realize that it's not so bad after all is important, I think; the same arguments have been repeated numerous times by each side, so if we're going to make progress, something about our approach has to change.

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But fairly safe to say LGBT lifestyles in the states are anywhere from 1%-10% depending on where you live. Heavily metropolitan area? yeah you are getting into a 7-12% zone. Small town? you might be the only one... lol.

but yeah... most people are straight. lol. But cities have pretty decent concentrations of other kinds of people.

My bad. I live in Canada where almost everyone at my school is one type of LGBT. It's rare to meet a heterosexual nowadays (in guys, there's more straights. but with girls, they're either bi or gay). I guess it really depends.

It's even common to see more NB or trans people, especially in the Anime/Tumblr community. Maybe 20% people I know identify as NB or trans (more likely NB though). FTM and never the opposite.

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Rotton-Girl said:

Kay but when you ask people stuff like:

"Any gay experience?":

Men: asked face to face: 11.4 Asked online: 17.3%
With gentile contact? : 9.9% Asked online: 13.5%

Oy vey! Don't make contact with the goyim.

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Mayuka said:

Rotton-Girl said:
But fairly safe to say LGBT lifestyles in the states are anywhere from 1%-10% depending on where you live. Heavily metropolitan area? yeah you are getting into a 7-12% zone. Small town? you might be the only one... lol.

but yeah... most people are straight. lol. But cities have pretty decent concentrations of other kinds of people.

My bad. I live in Canada where almost everyone at my school is one type of LGBT. It's rare to meet a heterosexual nowadays (in guys, there's more straights. but with girls, they're either bi or gay). I guess it really depends.

It's even common to see more NB or trans people, especially in the Anime/Tumblr community. Maybe 20% people I know identify as NB or trans (more likely NB though). FTM and never the opposite.

Canada has a 5% gay population too in general.

And yeah #same. I feel the same way honestly. I don't have many straight friends. But I think when you are LGBT yourself, it is like.... suddenly you have A LOT of LGBT friends. Which is why I never understand the token gay characters anymore and generally prefer the rainbow of gay cast of gay things as it is slightly more accurate- least when you speak of adults. But even in high school, I felt the ball rolling lol.

My area has a 8-12% LGBT population. Soooo yeah. HIGH compared to most area's 3%

The anime community in a nutshell.

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traed said:

Rotton-Girl said:

Kay but when you ask people stuff like:

"Any gay experience?":

Men: asked face to face: 11.4 Asked online: 17.3%
With gentile contact? : 9.9% Asked online: 13.5%

Oy vey! Don't make contact with the goyim.

Don't make fun of my inability to spell stuffs. I have had a VERY LONG DAY. And be happy I am not copy pastaing.

I got shit done though. I got shit done. Didn't watch any anime at all. *sigh*

*pretends watching no anime and getting life together is what is a good thing*

^^
Real video of me getting my life together.

^^ was me at the start of the day

It doesn't look good folks.

Energetic-NovaOct 2, 2017 9:31 PM

The anime community in a nutshell.

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Rotton-Girl said:

Mayuka said:

My bad. I live in Canada where almost everyone at my school is one type of LGBT. It's rare to meet a heterosexual nowadays (in guys, there's more straights. but with girls, they're either bi or gay). I guess it really depends.

It's even common to see more NB or trans people, especially in the Anime/Tumblr community. Maybe 20% people I know identify as NB or trans (more likely NB though). FTM and never the opposite.

Canada has a 5% gay population too in general.

And yeah #same. I feel the same way honestly. I don't have many straight friends. But I think when you are LGBT yourself, it is like.... suddenly you have A LOT of LGBT friends. Which is why I never understand the token gay characters anymore and generally prefer the rainbow of gay cast of gay things as it is slightly more accurate- least when you speak of adults. But even in high school, I felt the ball rolling lol.

My area has a 8-12% LGBT population. Soooo yeah. HIGH compared to most area's 3%

To be honest, I'm pretty sure there are more queer people than straight people think.. always has been. In the past, all the gay, bi, pan, and trans people were either erased, censored out, or killed just for existing. The only reason it looks like being LGBT+ is "trending" now is because people are starting to realize that killing queer people is... really freakin messed up. Now that more parts of the world are no longer in the queer-killing business, people feel safer to either come out of the closet or start exploring their gender and / or sexual identity.

Not to mention, in the past there was no word for, "I feel mostly like a dude, but also a teeny bit like a girl". BOOM - Demiguy. New label. "I am sexually attracted to chicks, but it only kicks in when we get to know each other" - Demisexual. "I don't feel like a guy OR a girl.." - Agender. Tada. Now that we have more words to describe how we feel about gender and/or sexuality, more people are able to identify how they feel. It doesn't mean people are making up genders. it means people are finding words for how they feel.

The reason why you find more queer people online is because it's 2000% easier to be out online than in real life. And people who were raised as girls are 'trained' to be more in-tune with their feelings than people raised as boys, which is why you'll find more FTM people than MTF. Not to mention people raised as boys are generally not as eager to share their lives as people raised as girls. It's all in how they were raised and the degree of freedom they were allowed to express themselves.

Oct 4, 2017 10:13 AM

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man: he
woman: she

anything else is bullshit

Oct 4, 2017 10:22 AM

#173

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he or she is fine, as long as you are not criticizing or making fun of them.

Oct 4, 2017 1:30 PM

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In Sweden we do have a gender-netrual pronoun I will use if they want. Guess I'd have to ask them what pronoun to use in english though.

Oct 4, 2017 1:57 PM

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I think it's just best to ask them which pronouns they use first, that way nobody will get offended ^^

Oct 4, 2017 2:00 PM

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silverwings99 said:

Rotton-Girl said:

Canada has a 5% gay population too in general.

And yeah #same. I feel the same way honestly. I don't have many straight friends. But I think when you are LGBT yourself, it is like.... suddenly you have A LOT of LGBT friends. Which is why I never understand the token gay characters anymore and generally prefer the rainbow of gay cast of gay things as it is slightly more accurate- least when you speak of adults. But even in high school, I felt the ball rolling lol.

My area has a 8-12% LGBT population. Soooo yeah. HIGH compared to most area's 3%

To be honest, I'm pretty sure there are more queer people than straight people think.. always has been. In the past, all the gay, bi, pan, and trans people were either erased, censored out, or killed just for existing. The only reason it looks like being LGBT+ is "trending" now is because people are starting to realize that killing queer people is... really freakin messed up. Now that more parts of the world are no longer in the queer-killing business, people feel safer to either come out of the closet or start exploring their gender and / or sexual identity.

Not to mention, in the past there was no word for, "I feel mostly like a dude, but also a teeny bit like a girl". BOOM - Demiguy. New label. "I am sexually attracted to chicks, but it only kicks in when we get to know each other" - Demisexual. "I don't feel like a guy OR a girl.." - Agender. Tada. Now that we have more words to describe how we feel about gender and/or sexuality, more people are able to identify how they feel. It doesn't mean people are making up genders. it means people are finding words for how they feel.

The reason why you find more queer people online is because it's 2000% easier to be out online than in real life. And people who were raised as girls are 'trained' to be more in-tune with their feelings than people raised as boys, which is why you'll find more FTM people than MTF. Not to mention people raised as boys are generally not as eager to share their lives as people raised as girls. It's all in how they were raised and the degree of freedom they were allowed to express themselves.

Around the world there are more male to female trans people. I know your individual friends group might be a lot like my own with more female to male. but simply put, in many countries it can be as out of balanced as 4:1 in favor of Male to Female trans. And in most it is 2:1. Why is this? Mostly because more things are considered female behavior than male behavior. The intensity of non-belonging I have noticed is stronger in the MtF ones I have met. :( Usually a lot of societal caused mental ills...

It is that degree of freedom that women have socially causes more MtF and why any movement involving crossdressing has always been really really important for men.... but then women gotta act like it is perversion or something. and men do too. Gotta act like they are protecting us dainty women.

The anime community in a nutshell.

Oct 4, 2017 2:23 PM

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unless someone whines like a bitch about it, i'd just call em what i think it is.....

AsPeeXXXVIII said:
Either "he" or "she" based on which gender they look like. If they get offended by it, that's their problem, not mine.

but if they do....

I'd call it an "IT" like a thing, it dehumanizes those things.

those things deserve to be considered Non-binary subhuman trash

Oct 4, 2017 3:52 PM

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AsPeeXXXVIII said:
Either "he" or "she" based on which gender they look like. If they get offended by it, that's their problem, not mine.

yeah, pretty much this, thats how i see it. :)

Oct 4, 2017 3:59 PM

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Be respectful of the proper pronouns. From henceforth, you shall refer to me as "My Holy Superior." Example:

Ratohn is amazing. My Holy Superior makes the greatest posts.

Oct 4, 2017 7:37 PM

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I've been thought through my life that male dominates in the french language (I speak french most of the time) so ''he'' should cut it

Oct 9, 2017 12:53 PM

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I go with whatever they want to be referred to as. Some are very particular about this and want to strictly be called "they". Others are okay with he or she and are not really bothered what pronoun you use. It simply depends on the individual and what they are comfortable with.

Oct 9, 2017 1:04 PM

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they/them. don't be rude and purposely try ticking them off by calling them a he or a she

Oct 9, 2017 1:49 PM

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I would use "they/them" if they asked me to, because it's a generic way of adressing a person (í.e. when the gender is undefined).

I always use a generic 'they' when writing essays, because it makes more sense to me than a generic 'he', so adapting it into real life isn't big deal for me.

Gender-neutral pronouns like 'zhe' and 'zher' are superfluous, not to mention ugly.

Oct 15, 2017 1:57 PM

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It? Faggot? Retard? idk
Or maybe...
Avoid that person and RUN AND GET DA FUCK OUTTA THERE

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Formerly known as:
~ Gokuvich, The "OG Bulgarian"~

Oct 15, 2017 2:31 PM

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I don't. If you're not happy with what I call you you're not worth talking to.

Oct 15, 2017 2:46 PM

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In my case, since I can be said to be non-binary/transexual myself, you can call me whatever you want, it's up to me and up to you to keep talking to each other as we wish.

I use male pronouns to myself though, I don't and don't want to pass as a girl, it's just my style. Also, a bit old to be caring about pronouns now I guess, but I myself offended a non-binary before by simply talking to him like "hey man"... dude, or girl if she prefers, got all mad at me.

Final point I think that as long as people respect each-other, it shouldn't really matter, but it does to some, so I try to understand ( which is what we should do to things we don't ...)

Oct 15, 2017 4:06 PM

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They, them, you, probably 'dude' since that's evolved into a non-binary term.

"No, son, you may not have your body pillow at the dinner table!"

Oct 17, 2017 12:38 AM

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moushi said:
they/them. don't be rude and purposely try ticking them off by calling them a he or a she

but it’s not a gender
no made up gender playtime

Oct 17, 2017 12:44 AM

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Dessssy

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Well you could just call them by their name.

:)

Oct 17, 2017 4:24 PM

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Usually with "snowflake" or "basket case".

Oct 17, 2017 4:31 PM

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RuneRem

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Usually with mentally ill or Apache Gunship.

Oct 17, 2017 6:12 PM

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