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Aug 31, 2017 12:12 AM
#51
BECAUSE YAOI IS LOVE, YAOI IS LIFE... YAOI IS AMAZING... ahem... right... I'm a fujoshu :] |
Aug 31, 2017 12:29 AM
#52
It's cause Yuri fans are not crazy like Yaoi fans. Plus you RARELY see a decent Yuri story in an anime/manga that is actually good so people tend to sleep on the genre for the lack of good content. |
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Aug 31, 2017 12:45 AM
#53
There are a lot or yuri fans, but the yaoi fandom is a lot more hectic. Plus guys usually prefer harem over yuri |
Aug 31, 2017 1:02 AM
#55
Fujoshis are fujoshis cause mostly because of centuries old opression, they don't want to speak about their own sexualty so when there is no girl in the relationship, when it's man x man, they are more comfortable to talk about it and watch it and it's porn for girls, girls turn on when they are connected to the characters, not just by the act of sex like boys so there is that too. These are very big factors that why there are fujoshis but i don't know if yaoi is more popular than yuri... I know there are alot of fujoshis, yaoi is pretty popular though. |
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Aug 31, 2017 2:50 AM
#56
Because fujos make their presence felt more by being really nosy and trying to butt in everywhere with their ships? They also seem to have more talent free time which is why there's always so much gay fan-art out there for almost every series where even a remote possibility exists. Some straight fujos even seem to think that they are supporting LGBTQ+ by being more open minded and watching gay porn yaoi. I'm guessing watching shounen-ai/yaoi is more of a badge of honor than a fetish to them. Anyone who doesn't appreciate it is labelled homophobic, so even little things might end up in a big mess. A lot of male fans even label legit shujo series with straight romance or anything with a majority male cast/bishies as "fujo" anime making it look like there's even more of it than actually exists. I have no clue about yuri fans since I've never really discussed anything with them. From what I've seen on general forums so far, they don't seem to bring up the LGBT topic to support their ships as often as the fujos do. Maybe they know that a fetish is just a fetish? They are most probably more busy with hentai stuff? |
「あなたのためなら世界中を敵にしてもかまわない」 "If it was for your sake I wouldn't mind even if I had to turn the whole world into my enemy" |
Aug 31, 2017 2:58 AM
#57
lady_freyja said: S-quare22 said: can you give me a single popular yuri anime ? You can't cuz there is not Have you ever wondered why there is four seasons of Maria-sama ga Miteru and three seasons of Yuru Yuri if they weren't popular? I feel bad for the success of Yuru Yuri, but Maria-sama is a really good and serious show. Yes i was wondering about that .. why do they have too much seasons ? But i'm sure that their popularity is less than yuri on ice and free .. and i want to point out that junjou romantica has 3 seasons and sekkaichi hatsukoi has 2 seasons and superlovers has 2 seasons .. sorry if i forgot some titles . And i want to tell that the most popular hentai is bocu no piko which is yaoi |
"elles sont bien noires les pensées des nuits blanches" |
Aug 31, 2017 3:17 AM
#58
Fujos got the market by the balls.... Enough of this gay shit fam, time for the purest form of love....YURI. |
Aug 31, 2017 3:49 AM
#59
Aug 31, 2017 3:51 AM
#60
S-quare22 said: Yes i was wondering about that .. why do they have too much seasons ? But i'm sure that their popularity is less than yuri on ice and free « Too much » ? Maria-sama is a pretty big name. 38 volumes of LN, 9 volumes of manga, 4 seasons of anime, 1 live-action movie, numerous parodies (like that one) and it is because of its success that we even have actual yuri manga magazines. This is the pillar franchise of the yuri, and we can't say the same thing about stuffs like YoI or Junjō Romantica. The thing is, it's old now. Maria-sama is from the early 2000s, so only yuri or shōjo fans speak about it nowadays, unlike the very recent YoI. And since you said on your profile you enjoy shōjo, you should definitely give it a try, you might like it. Maria-sama is representative of the Esu (also called « Class S ») subgenre of yuri, it is the earliest subgenre of yuri and one of the earliest subjgenre of shōjo: it's intrinsically linked to the shōjo category and its history. |
Aug 31, 2017 4:05 AM
#62
lady_freyja said: S-quare22 said: Yes i was wondering about that .. why do they have too much seasons ? But i'm sure that their popularity is less than yuri on ice and free « Too much » ? Maria-sama is a pretty big name. 38 volumes of LN, 9 volumes of manga, 4 seasons of anime, 1 live-action movie, numerous parodies (like that one) and it is because of its success that we even have actual yuri manga magazines. This is the pillar franchise of the yuri, and we can't say the same thing about stuffs like YoI or Junjō Romantica. The thing is, it's old now. Maria-sama is from the early 2000s, so only yuri or shōjo fans speak about it nowadays, unlike the very recent YoI. And since you said on your profile you enjoy shōjo, you should definitely give it a try, you might like it. Maria-sama is representative of the Esu (also called « Class S ») subgenre of yuri, it is the earliest subgenre of yuri and one of the earliest subjgenre of shōjo: it's intrinsically linked to the shōjo category and its history. Sorry but i'm a straight girl and it's impossible for me to watch shoujo ai and i've said before on my profile that i do not like yuri and shoujo ai .. --ALEX-- said: Fujos got the market by the balls.... Enough of this gay shit fam, time for the purest form of love....YURI. Pls can you stop shitposting everywhere you go ? AnimeAddict117 said: Cause theres more Yaoi animes out there than Yuri I do not think so .. yuri's amount is similar to the yaoi ones |
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Aug 31, 2017 4:13 AM
#63
Girls tend to do more fan-work such as fanfics or fanart, so the amount of yaoi might be due to that. If fanwork was done mostly by straight guys, there would be way more yuri too. Though imo, there's about equal numbers of yuri (especially explicit) if you look for porn, 'cause a lot of porn artists are straight guys. There's not that many yaoi anime (including straight up hentai) though, so I'd actually say there's more yuri. Note that I'm not including queerbaiting stuff like Free in this. TL,DR: Fujoshi/girls into Yaoi overall tend to be more involved in producing fanart/fics and therefore it's just easier to run into stuff that way. |
Aug 31, 2017 4:19 AM
#64
S-quare22 said: Sorry but i'm a straight girl and it's impossible for me to watch shoujo ai and i've said before on my profile that i do not like yuri and shoujo ai .. I saw that too. But if I kept recommending it to you, it is because I think you have no clue about the yuri genre, and you said you like to learn new things about animanga. Maria-sama isn't about lesbian girls doing lesbian things with each others. It's about « romantic friendship », or « spiritual love », which is something rather different than lesbianism and is 100% compatible with being straight, of all the cast of that anime, only 1 girl is maybe lesbian, and it's a « maybe » and she's a secondary character. You said that yuri and friendship is different, but I disagree and want to show it to you; yuri is about friendship before love, a particular type of friendship, but still. Like I said to Zal the « ambiguous friendship » is in the DNA of the yuri genre. And what's best than the pillar yuri anime to show you that? I mean, the Esu (with the Haha-mono) was the main genre of the shōjo before ~1965 when the romance genre began its rise. If the Esu was the main genre of the shōjo, and that the shōjo readership is mostly constituted of straight girls, there is a reason, maybe because the Esu isn't incompatible with being straight. |
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Aug 31, 2017 4:29 AM
#65
lady_freyja said: S-quare22 said: Sorry but i'm a straight girl and it's impossible for me to watch shoujo ai and i've said before on my profile that i do not like yuri and shoujo ai .. I saw that too. But if I kept recommending it to you, it is because I think you have no clue about the yuri genre, and you said you like to learn new things about animanga. Maria-sama isn't about lesbian girls doing lesbian things with each others. It's about « romantic friendship », or « spiritual love », which is something rather different than lesbianism and is 100% compatible with being straight, of all the cast of that anime, only 1 girl is maybe lesbian, and it's a « maybe » and she's a secondary character. You said that yuri and friendship is different, but I disagree and want to show it to you; yuri is about friendship before love, a particular type of friendship, but still. Like I said to Zal the « ambiguous friendship » is in the DNA of the yuri genre. And what's best than the pillar yuri anime to show you that? I mean, the Esu (with the Haha-mono) was the main genre of the shōjo before ~1965 when the romance genre began its rise. If the Esu was the main genre of the shōjo, and that the shōjo readership is mostly constituted of straight girls, there is a reason, maybe because the Esu isn't incompatible with being straight. Why not .. maybe i will check it out someday |
"elles sont bien noires les pensées des nuits blanches" |
Aug 31, 2017 6:08 AM
#66
--ALEX-- said: Fujos got the market by the balls.... Enough of this gay shit fam, time for the purest form of love....YURI. ... err, You seem confused about Yuri. |
Aug 31, 2017 6:12 AM
#67
I honestly prefer normal romances over yuri |
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Aug 31, 2017 7:02 AM
#68
The anime community maybe domainte by guys, but really how guys are into Yuri? Sure, plenty of guys find girl on girl is hot, but that doesn't mean they are Yuri fans. Plus anime needs to make more good Yuri. |
Aug 31, 2017 7:04 AM
#69
Aug 31, 2017 7:59 AM
#70
If I had to generalize guys usually think it's taboo to watch yuri, or even yaoi meh modern society mentality watchugonado. |
Aug 31, 2017 8:24 AM
#71
Because Yaoi is life. No, seriously, i agree with what some have said about this just being a incorrect perception. The fact that fujoshis are more open and speak a lot about it on the net just gives the impression it is more popular. |
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Aug 31, 2017 8:35 AM
#72
Yaoi is more daring (often for the worst) than yuri. Also, Yaoi fans buy more merchandise and discs than yuri fans and the fanbase is far more dedicated. |
Aug 31, 2017 8:55 AM
#74
YayaChibi said: Because fucking weeb girls think you have to be a fujoshi to like anime too lmao lol This is why I can get on the closet fujoshi side of the fandom lmao lol I love yuri too though lol Bernrika said: --ALEX-- said: Fujos got the market by the balls.... Enough of this gay shit fam, time for the purest form of love....YURI. ... err, You seem confused about Yuri. It ain't homo is there's no dick involved lmao lol Omg i can't beleive what i'm reading !! This reply makes no sense .. the first line has no meaning and pls don't use opinions as facts |
"elles sont bien noires les pensées des nuits blanches" |
Aug 31, 2017 9:02 AM
#75
YayaChibi said: Because fucking weeb girls think you have to be a fujoshi to like anime too lmao lol This is why I can get on the closet fujoshi side of the fandom lmao lol I love yuri too though lol Bernrika said: --ALEX-- said: Fujos got the market by the balls.... Enough of this gay shit fam, time for the purest form of love....YURI. ... err, You seem confused about Yuri. It ain't homo is there's no dick involved lmao lol Are you always rude with people .. most of your posts contain too much profanity (at least censcor your rudeness) you start throwing insults on people becuz you do not know how to discuss correctly and find some good arguments becuz of the butthurt |
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Aug 31, 2017 9:03 AM
#76
Because yaoi is superior. Why is this even a question? |
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Aug 31, 2017 6:07 PM
#77
As a former fujoshi, seeing a genital that you don't possess is something to bleed for. Personally, I think it's because girls don't know what the opposite sex's genitals would feel like, same goes for guys into yuri. I guess it just boils down to imagination and hormones, if that makes any sense. |
Sep 1, 2017 1:32 AM
#78
Because girls can be pregnated than boys. Boys are more hotter to see naked body's to fujoshi and they are ok or sometimes not ok to see. Boys have or (not in another cases)more charistmatic doing malicious things than girls perhaps (traditional girl to boy love)but the boys body has brittler and is not common to see boys suffering from sexual abuse form other boys.Call for help or you will be doomed. :-) |
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Sep 1, 2017 10:46 AM
#79
It isn't that it's more popular, just that the girls like to spread it around more. It's a big reason why I dislike talking to yaoi fans, because it's all they ever rave about, meanwhile I want to have a deeper conversation! |
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Sep 1, 2017 11:10 AM
#80
I feel like it is the opposite given all of the yuri hints I see in anime usually. |
Sep 1, 2017 3:23 PM
#81
Omelettecat said: I think it's mainly just that girls prefer boy x boy and guys prefer boy x harem of girls, so yuri then gets left behind. I wonder if girls be okay with cross dressers/traps |
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Sep 1, 2017 3:47 PM
#82
Sep 1, 2017 3:50 PM
#83
Danae said: probably because yaoi sells more than yuri We have Captain Obvious here. OP already knows it sells more (i.e. it is more popular) because he asked why is it so. |
Sep 1, 2017 4:09 PM
#84
Probably because Yuri is deemed as girly - too much "fluff." Also, I think the Yaoi genre is just more hot, idk. If guys wanted to see girl on girl they would just go to a porn site.. |
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Sep 1, 2017 4:16 PM
#85
Tbh this is actually quite a tricky question, as an ex-fujoshi I mainly got into yaoi because it's what everyone else was doing. I read the doujins and wrote the fanfics and all that jazz. Mainly because it's just a massive thing that makes up majority of a fandom, so you kinda just hop on the bandwagon. Now I'm more of just a shipper (shipper=/=fujoshi/fudanshi), if I think two characters would make a nice couple (regardless of if it's m/m or f/f or m/f) I'll ship them, because of the chemistry and romantic aspect not just because it's two guys or because it's 'hot'. I actually hate the fujoshi/yaoi 'culture' since I find it gross and unrealistic, and it also attracts pedophilic and unhealthy relationships which is just. No. |
Sep 1, 2017 5:17 PM
#86
If we're talking about pornography, it's because men have and prefer hentai over yuri whereas a much larger percentage of women prefer yaoi over M/F content. |
Sep 1, 2017 5:47 PM
#87
Zelev said: If guys wanted to see girl on girl they would just go to a porn site.. so girls would do, maybe u are saying that fujoshis dont want nudes. i dont think so Tpfang56 said: If we're talking about pornography, it's because men have and prefer hentai over yuri whereas a much larger percentage of women prefer yaoi over M/F content. based on this, men are perverts and women lesbians. quite exaggerated kawaii96desu said: Because guys do not like to admit they like Yuri or don't even give it a chance because they are too afraid they might actually like it while girls are more open-minded. u are the definition of open-minded xd |
Sep 1, 2017 5:59 PM
#88
because girls are l e w d as fuck duhhh |
Sep 1, 2017 8:15 PM
#89
Seiya said: Because Shounen-ai/Yaoi is better than Shoujo-ai/Yuri. Boys are hot, and girls are not. Nobody in their right mind would want to watch an Anime about lesbians. That's gotta be one of the stupidest thing's I've heard. I'm pretty sure there's both men & women that would watch a story about two women in love. |
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Sep 1, 2017 8:21 PM
#90
HurtMeMoreDawg said: Seiya said: Because Shounen-ai/Yaoi is better than Shoujo-ai/Yuri. Boys are hot, and girls are not. Nobody in their right mind would want to watch an Anime about lesbians. That's gotta be one of the stupidest thing's I've heard. I'm pretty sure there's both men & women that would watch a story about two women in love. You're right, there are. But I like to refer to those people as being "not all there in the head." |
Sep 2, 2017 1:47 AM
#91
Don't know, don't care! all I know is that anime in recent years is chock full of suggested softcore pornographic baloney or whatever that I don't give a damn about. |
Sep 2, 2017 2:18 AM
#92
Sep 2, 2017 4:53 AM
#93
Isn't that the same case with the boys ? Stop being sexist |
"elles sont bien noires les pensées des nuits blanches" |
Sep 2, 2017 5:20 AM
#94
More guys watch anime, so that means there is more homosexual guys than homosexual girls in community - 1 point for yaoi. Yaoi is one of the most popular genres for girls (2nd point), but guys don't watch yuri. If they want some action they watch normal ecchi and harem anime. That's because yaoi is more popular. |
Sep 2, 2017 6:20 AM
#95
Shutup you fucking deviant Don't try to turn this around with your majestic bitch-flip super power that all girls have |
Sep 2, 2017 6:36 AM
#96
Eight-Man said: Shutup you fucking deviant Don't try to turn this around with your majestic bitch-flip super power that all girls have Calling people deviant becuz of saying the truth is the most retarded thing i've ever seen Are you always rude with people ? You need to hide your toxic behaviors cuz i'm ready to report you right now |
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Sep 2, 2017 6:38 AM
#97
S-quare22 said: Eight-Man said: Shutup you fucking deviant Don't try to turn this around with your majestic bitch-flip super power that all girls have Calling people deviant becuz of saying the truth is the most retarded thing i've ever seen Are you always rude with people ? You need to hide your toxic behaviors cuz i'm ready to report you right now awww, someone got triggered over a joke and then thinks im actually insulting her, how cute. Go ahead, but this is far lesser than most of the shit I've done on this forum and I haven't been banned yet. |
Sep 2, 2017 7:12 AM
#98
Because girls love to sexualize men. This is why we need meninism. |
Sep 2, 2017 9:16 AM
#99
otterman965 said: Because girls love to sexualize men. This is why we need meninism. "Meninism?" Lol, sounds like Mennonites or something. Well, I'm a guy, and I sexualize men(specifically Anime guys), so it's not just girls. |
Sep 2, 2017 9:55 AM
#100
I think it is fair to say that we currently live in a culture that is hyper-aware of the female reaction. This can be seen in the macrocosm of society in many ways- our social codes are defined according to what women do and do not find offensive, our media focuses on alleged female victims before alleged male victims- but even in smaller artistic microcosms, this is still apparent. Because this discussion is mostly focused on the romance family of genres, I would implore anyone reading this to think back over any romantic or sexual show you have recently watched- often, the relationships in these shows are defined by how the female partner is feeling, and these relationships progress according to the female's changing emotions and thoughts. I am not stating that there are no romance stories where males have feelings and their feelings change, but I also think it is fair to say that for the most part, females in romance stories emote more, their emotions are given more attention, and they tend to change more over the course of such stories. Because we are hyper-aware of the female reaction, the vast majority of romance stories incorporate female reactions and most of them use these reactions as the focal point. This gives yuri, a genre that relies on female reactions exclusively to drive its plot, a lot of competition- the large number of romance-story consumers who wish to experience female reactions in romantic situations have a huge number of heterosexual stories where they can find that, and this only leaves a small number of deviant-minded people who specifically wish to experience romance stories that do not involve any male presence as the target audience for yuri. To further shrink yuri's niche, there have been many stories about friendships between females wherein the friendships are depicted in an intimate enough way for an audience member to extrapolate romanticism from them quite easily. Sexuality between women is the final remaining potentially-unique trait that yuri could latch on to, but then yuri has to compete with the prevalent and prodigious monolith that is lesbian pornography. Truly, it seems like yuri as a genre is boxed in on all sides by larger and more popular genres, all of which drain away yuri's potential consumers. Yaoi stories have a significant advantage conceptually, because while most stories, in keeping with our social consensus, focus on and celebrate the female reaction, yaoi is exclusively about the male reaction. Consumers usually wish to see these female reactions, but I think it is evident that there is also a smaller yet sizable subculture of people who wish to see male reactions. While there are many romantic stories that have a focus on male reactions, even the ones that have this focus often also have a focus on female reactions, so it is very rare to get a romantic story where only male reactions are depicted. Yaoi's exclusivity of focus does not mean that it is the exclusive domain of isolated male romantic reactions, but it does mean that when you read a yaoi story, you can be reasonably sure that you are experiencing a story about male reactions. And this is the root of the disparity: We live in a world where female reactions are focused on to the detriment of male reactions, so while yuri stories give the promise of focusing on female reactions and yaoi stories give the promise of focusing on male reactions, the offer that yaoi makes is just more rare than yuri's, and so yaoi overlaps to a lesser extent with fewer genres and thereby is able to maintain a more exclusive and strong fanbase. |
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