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Aug 21, 2017 4:37 PM
#901
Aug 21, 2017 4:38 PM
#902
lastwhisper31 said: What is everyone talking about? Something about border colors? Did the the host mess up the phase change death flip again? I'm so lost If you're active, mind bothering to explain your vote? |
Aug 21, 2017 4:40 PM
#903
I'm backreading right now. roz1roz your icon is just confusing as heck. Why did you have to do this. |
Aug 21, 2017 4:41 PM
#904
Tingle said: If Tingle really was/is scum then this post right here may prove to be revealing. I am currently collecting all Tingle's post.logic340 said: 1. I'm confused by the terminology you're using. What do you mean by mudslinging? That you both were tunneling eachother? Or that he is making you looks bad, what is it? It must be annoying to have to keep explaining yourself, but you've got to be direct with me here or I won't understand. 1. I think I had made that pretty clear at that point. He was mudslinging me badly and the scum claim. 2. You can find the answer to this in #423. This was not a vote based of whisper meta this was a vote based on how I felt about this particular scum claim with the note of how I happened to catch him like this before. See I like to give as much info as I can so people can understand where I am coming from but at times I will omit some to see if people try to understand me by asking questions or just label it a town or scum motivated action. It can be quite telling when town isn't being lazy. 3. How do you know they are jokes and not actual scum claims unless you are scum clearing town here? Do you know something I do not? Also I have since answered this is #423 4. Um....did you miss where she asked me to vote for her? Claire said "Vote me then. Barking wont work you know. :)" to which I answered "unvote: Vote: Claire. Well since you asked so nicely. Don't be upset when you get everything that comes along with it though seeing as how you asked for this". I am not trying to be rude but if you follow the conversation in the quote chain why I did what I did is very clear. It's also stated in the post where you quoted. Now if you can make a case for why scum would place a vote like that then go right ahead but don't say you don't understand the reason for my vote when the reason is in the post you quoted. 5. I addressed in #427. Am I really role fishing here or am I trying to get people to understand Purity's role? 2 & 3. I think we've been misunderstanding eachother here. I was talking about Labs/Abu with the fake scum claim early game, which to me came off as a joke, that I'd expect from Labs tbh. It might not actually be a joke, you never really know with him but that was my judgement at the time. I do have to admit that I read over whisper's fake scum claim, that was quite different than those two, like you stated. "I shouldn't night kill you then". You called it a scum claim, but it looks to me more like a slip. Or could potentially be a tpr, or town aligned vigilante. But two of those three options are bad. I understand why this "joke" put you off now. Fluff can always mean more than it portrays so of course you should keep an eye open for whisper, but it's honestly not enough to make him scum for me. I'll have to reread his posts once again, to make a good judgement on that. 4. I now sorta understand your reasoning after reading through it again. So you're voting for her because she challenged you and you didn't like the gimmick she had going with Ari and you were standing up for Abu. I don't really like players standing up for eachother like that, because ultimately we're all on our own here because we're clueless to eachothers alignment so early in the game. But if you know Abu and your gut feeling is telling you town, who am I to question that. But please understand that his playstyle can get off as a bit scummy. He's ultimately avoiding answering questions completely, maybe they should be more direct, but maybe he should try harder in looking for a way to answer them. He's a bit to laid back imo. 5. i already tackled this in my previous posts, again thanks for clearing this up for me. Edit: Added some spaced between my points, because it became hard to read. |
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Aug 21, 2017 4:45 PM
#905
Mishukax said: I'd rather a game related question though I can think of a few good reasons to have done it. I'm backreading right now. roz1roz your icon is just confusing as heck. Why did you have to do this. |
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Aug 21, 2017 4:52 PM
#906
logic340 said: Mishukax said: I'd rather a game related question though I can think of a few good reasons to have done it. I'm backreading right now. roz1roz your icon is just confusing as heck. Why did you have to do this. Back off with your questions, I'm backreading, for Mona Lisa's sake. I can think of a simple reason as well, it's just that I've had to recheck a few times after thinking "wait, logic would say this type of thing?" I'm just confused, is all. |
Aug 21, 2017 4:54 PM
#907
Mishukax said: Fair enough, sorry if I am being too imposing. I really am interested in your thoughts given what has transpired end of D1 and to start D2. I am here all night take your time.logic340 said: Mishukax said: I'm backreading right now. roz1roz your icon is just confusing as heck. Why did you have to do this. Back off with your questions, I'm backreading, for Mona Lisa's sake. I can think of a simple reason as well, it's just that I've had to recheck a few times after thinking "wait, logic would say this type of thing?" I'm just confused, is all. |
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Aug 21, 2017 4:55 PM
#908
Arrisu said: nope not yet, if u took the time to answer my post, could you have at least answered my questions? I'm still at work for 2 hourslastwhisper31 said: What is everyone talking about? Something about border colors? Did the the host mess up the phase change death flip again? I'm so lost If you're active, mind bothering to explain your vote? |
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Aug 21, 2017 5:01 PM
#909
lastwhisper31 said: Arrisu said: nope not yet, if u took the time to answer my post, could you have at least answered my questions? I'm still at work for 2 hourslastwhisper31 said: What is everyone talking about? Something about border colors? Did the the host mess up the phase change death flip again? I'm so lost If you're active, mind bothering to explain your vote? I'm pretty sure I answered any question pinged at me. If I missed it, feel free to reask. |
Aug 21, 2017 5:02 PM
#910
logic340 said: Fair enough, sorry if I am being too imposing. I really am interested in your thoughts given what has transpired end of D1 and to start D2. I am here all night take your time. Yay, you actually backed off. You got so focused on small irrelevant details as scum in Hydra Mafia, now I was half-checking if you'd feel offended with my refusal to obey you. I've been having town vibes from you as I've been reading, this helps to strengthen it. Don't have too many expectations, given the Phraze town flip I'm trying to find if scum were on there and if the CFD onto him made sense. As for my vote, I was just not here to catch up with the thread and change my vote. Bummer. If you ask me whether I would have voted Phraze anyway had I been caught up and fully present... can't really answer this considering I'm biased while reading because I know what Phraze is. |
Aug 21, 2017 5:04 PM
#911
Mind you I'm still on page 12 so I won't take my time too much. |
Aug 21, 2017 5:05 PM
#912
Mishukax said: A very fair response. "I respect that" to steal from DenjaX/Purity. Carry my good fellow. logic340 said: Fair enough, sorry if I am being too imposing. I really am interested in your thoughts given what has transpired end of D1 and to start D2. I am here all night take your time. Yay, you actually backed off. You got so focused on small irrelevant details as scum in Hydra Mafia, now I was half-checking if you'd feel offended with my refusal to obey you. I've been having town vibes from you as I've been reading, this helps to strengthen it. Don't have too many expectations, given the Phraze town flip I'm trying to find if scum were on there and if the CFD onto him made sense. As for my vote, I was just not here to catch up with the thread and change my vote. Bummer. If you ask me whether I would have voted Phraze anyway had I been caught up and fully present... can't really answer this considering I'm biased while reading because I know what Phraze is. |
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Aug 21, 2017 5:06 PM
#913
Arrisu said: @Arrisu this is the question he was talking about. lastwhisper31 said: What is everyone talking about? Something about border colors? Did the the host mess up the phase change death flip again? I'm so lost If you're active, mind bothering to explain your vote? @lastwhisper31 I will give it to you guys in detail later. I need to check something first. |
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Aug 21, 2017 5:27 PM
#914
I already see people not liking me because I'm a dead slot. I could probably check every one of my games, townie or scum, and see this happening as well. Thankfully one of my games has ended today but I'm still in two and my non-mafia schedule isn't being lenient at all. I'm not seeking pity but I want to put out there that you should be expecting weird activity levels from me, especially if you have experience playing with me. |
Aug 21, 2017 5:28 PM
#915
Tingle said: Good Morning and happy birthday to Suzu~ Ah phase change is at a time I’m usually asleep at already. I will have to adjust my sleepschedule a bit for this game, but that should be fine. RT. This is a player based mafia game who's to say that the CP the D1 post is talking about, is the actual CP. It's highly plausible, to me at least, that this could actually be someone else. But I will however be suspicious of whoever claims CP, it seems like an easy scum move to try and get town to trust you. But then again, maybe it’s a too easy move? logic340 said: I gotta agree with this. Best to let a potential confirmed town live for D1, and wrap our heads around that later. A confirmed towny could help us a ton in the early stages of the game. It’s for us to judge later if the choices they’re making are leading town to a dark path or a bright path. So I’m of the opinion that we should let the whole CP thing rest right now and look for potential scum moves on other players. _Claire_ said: AbuHumaid said: You forget that this is a bastard game.there's a high possibility he's town, what if we suspect him and lynch him then he flips town? we would have wasted a lot of time that could be used to catch a legit scum There is higher chance he is scum, not town imo. Just my 2 cents. AbuHumaid said: Why dipout when it’s active? You should see this as a chance to question other players and get a move on. I'll just dip out of the game until it gets less active Mishukax said: role fishing.logic340 said: "Best Town" means a certain player in the MS community. logic340 said: i dont like this. CorruptedPurity said: As usual I don't participate in RVS, but since I'm obviously best town, none of you have reasons to suspect me. To be honest, I'm not all that good at scumhunting (duh), so even while I will try to do so, I'll mainly utilize my role as a cleared town to help others scumhunt. An opinion of a clear town could be quite strong, as you can factor in on the all interactions and suspicions from me without having to worry if I am scum. So if you ever need my opinion on a certain read, just ping me. Also, can I get a "I respect that" for CP, the best town? Mishukax said: yeah I played a lot in 2015, not sure if I ever saw you back then.Gonna head out soon too, but for good measure: I'm not gonna tolerate a game full of "I'm scum" from Lamb. Not that I don't expect him to eventually step it up since I know he's good, but I want to mention this at least. And I suppose this concerns Abu and whisper as well. I understand the will to joke around, but claiming you're scum no matter the intent or context can get pretty confusing for town and people might end up reading you solely on the wine that such statements are creating. So yeah, I don't really care for those posts, just don't abuse them. Tingle and roz1roz are new players for me, I'm looking forward to them. Coelestin is... Chione, I believe? If so, heck yes. Good night to all. CorruptedPurity said: I think we should look for other reasonings on why claire is scummy.. We’ve gotten pretty much all the answers we could’ve gotten from her concerning this issue. I like arri’s reasoning on why she’s voting.. I’m gonna analyze Claire’s activity again, look if I can get anything else out of it myself._Claire_ said: AbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: That's some BS. I stated my opinions, you're just ignoringaa-dono said: +1.logic340 said: Hnn why not? Abu deflect a direct question.aa-dono said: I don't like this plus 1 at all as you could have given who you think we should be looking into._Claire_ said: +1AbuHumaid said: And you have not answered who we should look into, if you dont like all attention on CP._Claire_ said: I never said you're pushing too hard what? getting defensive already?AbuHumaid said: What do you mean I am pushing too hard on CP? Its only the beginning of the game. Lol._Claire_ said: Fine this is a bastard game, this doesn't mean he has a higher of being scum. It's still a 50% chance AbuHumaid said: He will be a thorn in the ass later on if not dealt now._Claire_ said: what else could "Best Town" mean? even if he got a player that's known for being "best town". I never said it's 1000% guaranteed he's town what i'm saying is we should keep him for later and not waste too much time thinking about this. and you didn't answer my question btwAbuHumaid said: Duh. Since when the host announced him as Innocent Child?_Claire_ said: I never forgot that, regardless if it's a bastard game or not, innocent child is a townie role there's a higher chance he's town than scum. What makes you think that there's a higher chance for him to be scum?AbuHumaid said: You forget that this is a bastard game.there's a high possibility he's town, what if we suspect him and lynch him then he flips town? we would have wasted a lot of time that could be used to catch a legit scum There is higher chance he is scum, not town imo. The host just said he was best town. Best town =/= innocent child. Because "best town" can still roll as scum. He is only best town if he rolls town. Now we dont know if his role is scum/town so despite the person he rolls into is famous for being best town, there is no guarantee he is town. I already explained it, this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum than town from his grand opening by host. I will take a note that youre so unwilling to look at him now though, because we have got no better lead atm. Who do you propose we should look at then? Don't get me wrong, everyone should be pressured but pushing on CP too much so early in the game is scummy, if he's town a mafia would know it and try to get him mislynched using a weak reason like "this is a bastard game, he MUST be scum" If anything your unwillingness to divert our attention is suspicious. Who should we look into then, if not CP? Give a good suggestion and good reasons please, or you are under my red radar. why would a scum divert your attention? and why would they even bother? I'm not the one to boss you around, you can look into anyone you see sus @_Claire_ we are at the point where everyone needs to be looked into. So I choose logic for you to look into as I don't like your singular focus. I am asking for his opinion 2x and he just left or something RIP. Who do you think we should look into beside CP? I dont see it sorry, probably link it for me? Well, more like why are you looking at CP? The only guy who got cleared by mod. Like if you don't trust mod, fine. Then I am NAI. An innocent child claim never warrants a scum read even in a bastard game. Your entire case on me was cause of my claim, not my behaviour, my interactions or anything about me beside my role. So it's a weak case. You could look at the too fuffy lastwhisper or the pressurizing logic or the subtle yet impactful aa-dono but you're looking at the only guy who did nothing much but fluff abit with his role. CorruptedPurity said: would host actually do that? It feels kinda unlikely to me.logic340 said: CorruptedPurity said: Just to clear things up a bit what is your role/ability called?As usual I don't participate in RVS, but since I'm obviously best town, none of you have reasons to suspect me. To be honest, I'm not all that good at scumhunting (duh), so even while I will try to do so, I'll mainly utilize my role as a cleared town to help others scumhunt. An opinion of a clear town could be quite strong, as you can factor in on the all interactions and suspicions from me without having to worry if I am scum. So if you ever need my opinion on a certain read, just ping me. Also, can I get a "I respect that" for CP, the best town? I am glad you asked this cause I was contemplating alot about revealing my second ability or not. My Passive is "Best Town" - It does as what Ruu posted at the start of the thread. Host did warn me that people may not believe me because it was a bastard game though. Seems like his warning is true. I have another passive which can turn into an active under a set of conditions. What it is, what it can be and what the conditions are will be secret for now. Tingle said: Labs said: you make it feel more and more like D1 post was about the role not the player, and that CP is just going along with it.. And it's actually quite plausible.Tingle said: CorruptedPurity said: would host actually do that? It feels kinda unlikely to me.I am glad you asked this cause I was contemplating alot about revealing my second ability or not. My Passive is "Best Town" - It does as what Ruu posted at the start of the thread. Host did warn me that people may not believe me because it was a bastard game though. Seems like his warning is true. I have another passive which can turn into an active under a set of conditions. What it is, what it can be and what the conditions are will be secret for now. I don't see the host sticking their nose in the game like that...... I'd bet more on backwards meta fuhkking the roster, as per the repeat of not tagging said player with the whole best town insert. Edit: I cut the quote up wrong here.... wooops edit: the whole quoting was a mess, hope I fixed it Tingle said: Coelestin said: can you describe what makes him town in your eyes?Abu pretty much seems like town atm, hope it's gonna stay that way 1. 2. 3. Tingle said: aa-dono said: Alright here we go.. I believe most that people have could said about these 4 has been said, but I’ll try to find some more things to nitpick on :’) Imma try and mark everything I’m saying in blue to make it more easy to tell apart. But forgive me if I forget.@AbuHumaid What do you think of Arri, logic and Mishu? @Tingle same question (plus Claire) Claire After reading through all of Claire’s posts im kinda neutral on her alignment. There’s just not much to go off off. Up until page 7 all she talked about was the CP issue and her messing around after being voted for. After multiple people had to ask she then finally came with her first reads besides CP. _Claire_ said: Arrisu said: As far as I'm concerned I just see @_Claire_ toying with us and our hearts. She want us to think that she's got a trap up her sleeve. I don't like that. It's hitting players below the belt. It only gives me more indication to vote against her. Claire, moving away from yourself and CP, what are your thoughts thus far on players? What do you mean toying with your heart? I dont toy with hearts. I guess I could say I dont like how Logic has been wishy washy about his vote? I also have the opinion that he hasnt been doing much of his own thinking. On the other hand, Awa does sound like her townplay.. probably. I havent been playing for months, it could have changed. Abu on the other hand hasnt been much helpful. I havent played with him much, but I dont think we should let him go just based on "abu never answers you, so why are you asking?" by Logic. I thought Logic knew better than that? I mean if you arent gonna just keep on asking are you gonna let Abu go? If Abu is scum should be his eziest game of his life. _Claire_ said: And there was one short occurrence of role fishing.aa-dono said: _Claire_ said: Idk~aa-dono said: I am a stressed mafia?_Claire_ said: Well, playful Claire is relaxed Kulala. And you're a stressed mafia. So it's not about what trap you have.aa-dono said: No, what kind of trap do you think I have? ahaha_Claire_ said: Hnn... I was expecting more of a playful what-do-you-think or why-would-I-tell-you.aa-dono said: Nah its not a trap. _Claire_ said: If you are making a trap, why would you declare that it's a trap?logic340 said: Its funny how you have to announce that youre going to vote me. Why not just vote me directly tho? Hmm.._Claire_ said: unvote:logic340 said: Vote me then.AbuHumaid said: I think I am ready to vote Claire with ari honestly. _Claire_ said: That's some BS. I stated my opinions, you're just ignoringaa-dono said: logic340 said: Hnn why not? Abu deflect a direct question.aa-dono said: I don't like this plus 1 at all as you could have given who you think we should be looking into._Claire_ said: +1AbuHumaid said: And you have not answered who we should look into, if you dont like all attention on CP._Claire_ said: I never said you're pushing too hard what? getting defensive already?AbuHumaid said: What do you mean I am pushing too hard on CP? Its only the beginning of the game. Lol._Claire_ said: Fine this is a bastard game, this doesn't mean he has a higher of being scum. It's still a 50% chance AbuHumaid said: He will be a thorn in the ass later on if not dealt now._Claire_ said: what else could "Best Town" mean? even if he got a player that's known for being "best town". I never said it's 1000% guaranteed he's town what i'm saying is we should keep him for later and not waste too much time thinking about this. and you didn't answer my question btwAbuHumaid said: Duh. Since when the host announced him as Innocent Child?_Claire_ said: I never forgot that, regardless if it's a bastard game or not, innocent child is a townie role there's a higher chance he's town than scum. What makes you think that there's a higher chance for him to be scum?AbuHumaid said: You forget that this is a bastard game.there's a high possibility he's town, what if we suspect him and lynch him then he flips town? we would have wasted a lot of time that could be used to catch a legit scum There is higher chance he is scum, not town imo. The host just said he was best town. Best town =/= innocent child. Because "best town" can still roll as scum. He is only best town if he rolls town. Now we dont know if his role is scum/town so despite the person he rolls into is famous for being best town, there is no guarantee he is town. I already explained it, this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum than town from his grand opening by host. I will take a note that youre so unwilling to look at him now though, because we have got no better lead atm. Who do you propose we should look at then? Don't get me wrong, everyone should be pressured but pushing on CP too much so early in the game is scummy, if he's town a mafia would know it and try to get him mislynched using a weak reason like "this is a bastard game, he MUST be scum" If anything your unwillingness to divert our attention is suspicious. Who should we look into then, if not CP? Give a good suggestion and good reasons please, or you are under my red radar. why would a scum divert your attention? and why would they even bother? I'm not the one to boss you around, you can look into anyone you see sus @_Claire_ we are at the point where everyone needs to be looked into. So I choose logic for you to look into as I don't like your singular focus. +1. I am asking for his opinion 2x and he just left or something RIP. Whisper is on my shit list too though. Barking wont work you know. :) Vote: Claire Well since you asked so nicely Don't be upset when you get everything that comes along with it though seeing as how you asked for this. Also the fact that you are voting me, you have already fallen to the trap~ I was just bluffing obviously~ So a bluff. I dont like how he votes me. Also, I wouldn't know traps :/ I've never known how to make one in any game. Unless I did, but never really realizing what I was doing... Arrisu said: Uh.. don't jinxed it. Last time you liked my post, we end up tunneling each other end game. I still remember alice working so hard to make us stop ;-;I like aa-dono. Lots of town effort. It pleases me since I usually have a null/scum read on her. :D _Claire_ said: Not that I hate towncred, but I still don't believe anyone grasp my towngame 8)On the other hand, Awa does sound like her townplay.. probably. I havent been playing for months, it could have changed. Just confirming, did you just think I were a mafia there? Hmm, I dont think I ever relax playing mafia. But I was liking you for town earlier. That's gone though. What do you think of Mishu? I dont remember playing with such laid back Mishu, but obviously I am an old grandma that will just forget everything. Also thinking that his thinking is a bit too out there for me to understand (But I can barely understand people, I am arrogant and pref my own opinions). _Claire_ said: Now she’s wavering from CP im looking forward to her future scumhunting. To me the whole situation with CP seemed like some early game pressuring and we shouldn’t take it too much into account right now, but do take note of it for later.aa-dono said: lastwhisper31 said: ...aa-dono said: Sometimes nope, try to keep your internet up this game please :P.lastwhisper31 said: I don't think I can be like logic even if I tried.aa-dono said: and you're trying to be like Logic, with the posts that make you sound like you're doing something. Logic will most likely answer the post too, but there's nothing wrong with two perspectives.CorruptedPurity said: ororo~ You're answering for uncle logic..Arrisu said: Tbf the purpose of RVS is to apply pressure, promote activity and get the ball rolling. If one can accomplish that without the use of a vote, then I don't see the issue. On the other hand, if logic starts pressuring someone alot without voting them afterwards, I may find a problem with that depeding on the situation. As long as he's active and keeping the ball rolling, there's no real need to for him as an individual to participate in RVS@logic340 - Why no RVS? Youre relatively active. o.O Are you saying logic's posts doesn't actually do anything? Perhaps you really are my bad luck ;----; @_Claire_ Yerr, if the assumption's true, everything CP said is probably the opposite of what he said~ but he's my shishou, I think I have to believe him. @CorruptedPurity any thoughts on your bastard role? Has been playing actively, and been questioning players, the question really is if his questions are really doing anything. Has been kinda defensive, and has been picking a fight with everyone, but that can honestly be both a scum or a town tell, depends on the player, I don’t know him, so that at least doesnt get me anywhere. I have scumread someone before because they were defensive about everything, and they flipped scum. What do ya’ll think? He did, however, make some solid points about the CP issue that I agree with. I’d like for him to get more into why is currently scumreading lastwhisper like he said he would. logic340 said: I’d like for his reasoning to be something else than making speculations based on previous games. Meta reading can be beneficial, but can also work against us. Nothing promises that a player will be using the same tactics again. What did you think of whisper's post? Do you think it's talking about the player or the role? I will share my thoughts on this with you later but I think it's clear to most of us who have been playing more recently. logic340 said: I don’t like this post, it’s dumb. Taking obvious joke claims serious won’t get us anywhere. I don’t have anything against him pressuring them, but do get some solid reasoning behind why you think they’re scum, outside of obvious fake scum tells.Abu/Labs/whisper have all scum claimed, I think it would be worth looking into and pressuring all of them heavily. logic340 said: It was early game, RVS period, jokes like that are taken less seriously than later on in the game._Claire_ said: logic340 said: Lol...Abu/Labs/whisper have all scum claimed, I think it would be worth looking into and pressuring all of them heavily. I cant even tell you how unreasonable this is. But you play your game. So why do you feel it's unreasonable. I never said condemn them all I just said look into them. When I scum claim later on you all should look into me as well. logic340 said: Can you deliberately tell us why you’re voting Claire besides Arri’s reasoning? It looks like you’re jumping on a now easy train._Claire_ said: logic340 said: Vote me then.AbuHumaid said: I think I am ready to vote Claire with ari honestly. _Claire_ said: That's some BS. I stated my opinions, you're just ignoringaa-dono said: +1.logic340 said: Hnn why not? Abu deflect a direct question.aa-dono said: I don't like this plus 1 at all as you could have given who you think we should be looking into._Claire_ said: +1AbuHumaid said: And you have not answered who we should look into, if you dont like all attention on CP._Claire_ said: I never said you're pushing too hard what? getting defensive already?AbuHumaid said: What do you mean I am pushing too hard on CP? Its only the beginning of the game. Lol._Claire_ said: Fine this is a bastard game, this doesn't mean he has a higher of being scum. It's still a 50% chance AbuHumaid said: He will be a thorn in the ass later on if not dealt now._Claire_ said: what else could "Best Town" mean? even if he got a player that's known for being "best town". I never said it's 1000% guaranteed he's town what i'm saying is we should keep him for later and not waste too much time thinking about this. and you didn't answer my question btwAbuHumaid said: Duh. Since when the host announced him as Innocent Child?_Claire_ said: I never forgot that, regardless if it's a bastard game or not, innocent child is a townie role there's a higher chance he's town than scum. What makes you think that there's a higher chance for him to be scum?AbuHumaid said: You forget that this is a bastard game.there's a high possibility he's town, what if we suspect him and lynch him then he flips town? we would have wasted a lot of time that could be used to catch a legit scum There is higher chance he is scum, not town imo. The host just said he was best town. Best town =/= innocent child. Because "best town" can still roll as scum. He is only best town if he rolls town. Now we dont know if his role is scum/town so despite the person he rolls into is famous for being best town, there is no guarantee he is town. I already explained it, this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum than town from his grand opening by host. I will take a note that youre so unwilling to look at him now though, because we have got no better lead atm. Who do you propose we should look at then? Don't get me wrong, everyone should be pressured but pushing on CP too much so early in the game is scummy, if he's town a mafia would know it and try to get him mislynched using a weak reason like "this is a bastard game, he MUST be scum" If anything your unwillingness to divert our attention is suspicious. Who should we look into then, if not CP? Give a good suggestion and good reasons please, or you are under my red radar. why would a scum divert your attention? and why would they even bother? I'm not the one to boss you around, you can look into anyone you see sus @_Claire_ we are at the point where everyone needs to be looked into. So I choose logic for you to look into as I don't like your singular focus. I am asking for his opinion 2x and he just left or something RIP. Whisper is on my shit list too though. Barking wont work you know. :) Vote: Claire Well since you asked so nicely Don't be upset when you get everything that comes along with it though seeing as how you asked for this. logic340 said: Role fishing. CorruptedPurity said: As usual I don't participate in RVS, but since I'm obviously best town, none of you have reasons to suspect me. To be honest, I'm not all that good at scumhunting (duh), so even while I will try to do so, I'll mainly utilize my role as a cleared town to help others scumhunt. An opinion of a clear town could be quite strong, as you can factor in on the all interactions and suspicions from me without having to worry if I am scum. So if you ever need my opinion on a certain read, just ping me. Also, can I get a "I respect that" for CP, the best town? Neutral, leaning scum on this one. I don’t really have enough to go on to make a good read on this person yet. It has overall been a lot of fluff and stating in the obvious, which I don’t like. Mishukax said: Here they went back on the subject of fake claiming scum. This was already on page 7, and it had long passed. They were active the entire game until here. So why tackle back on that subject now? I do understand however where they’re coming from.Gonna head out soon too, but for good measure: I'm not gonna tolerate a game full of "I'm scum" from Lamb. Not that I don't expect him to eventually step it up since I know he's good, but I want to mention this at least. And I suppose this concerns Abu and whisper as well. I understand the will to joke around, but claiming you're scum no matter the intent or context can get pretty confusing for town and people might end up reading you solely on the wine that such statements are creating. So yeah, I don't really care for those posts, just don't abuse them. Tingle and roz1roz are new players for me, I'm looking forward to them. Coelestin is... Chione, I believe? If so, heck yes. Good night to all. She’s prob my biggest town lean right now. But from what I can remember she’s good at the game and can get quite scary as both town and scum. So I will continue to be wary of her. And it’s still way to early to have a solid read on someone. Anyways, she voted and gave a good reasoning behind her vote and then afterwards continued to pressure the player. Her questions until now we’re good and straight to the point. Tingle said: aa-dono said: Just by the name of an ability you can potentially know a lot about someone's role. And imo it's better to not expose town so early into the game. Tingle said: aa-dono said: Alright here we go.. I believe most that people have could said about these 4 has been said, but I’ll try to find some more things to nitpick on :’) Imma try and mark everything I’m saying in blue to make it more easy to tell apart. But forgive me if I forget.@AbuHumaid What do you think of Arri, logic and Mishu? @Tingle same question (plus Claire) Claire After reading through all of Claire’s posts im kinda neutral on her alignment. There’s just not much to go off off. Up until page 7 all she talked about was the CP issue and her messing around after being voted for. After multiple people had to ask she then finally came with her first reads besides CP. _Claire_ said: Arrisu said: As far as I'm concerned I just see @_Claire_ toying with us and our hearts. She want us to think that she's got a trap up her sleeve. I don't like that. It's hitting players below the belt. It only gives me more indication to vote against her. Claire, moving away from yourself and CP, what are your thoughts thus far on players? What do you mean toying with your heart? I dont toy with hearts. I guess I could say I dont like how Logic has been wishy washy about his vote? I also have the opinion that he hasnt been doing much of his own thinking. On the other hand, Awa does sound like her townplay.. probably. I havent been playing for months, it could have changed. Abu on the other hand hasnt been much helpful. I havent played with him much, but I dont think we should let him go just based on "abu never answers you, so why are you asking?" by Logic. I thought Logic knew better than that? I mean if you arent gonna just keep on asking are you gonna let Abu go? If Abu is scum should be his eziest game of his life. _Claire_ said: And there was one short occurrence of role fishing.aa-dono said: Too laid back for my liking._Claire_ said: Idk~aa-dono said: I am a stressed mafia?_Claire_ said: Well, playful Claire is relaxed Kulala. And you're a stressed mafia. So it's not about what trap you have.aa-dono said: No, what kind of trap do you think I have? ahaha_Claire_ said: Hnn... I was expecting more of a playful what-do-you-think or why-would-I-tell-you.aa-dono said: _Claire_ said: If you are making a trap, why would you declare that it's a trap?logic340 said: _Claire_ said: unvote:logic340 said: Vote me then.AbuHumaid said: I think I am ready to vote Claire with ari honestly. _Claire_ said: That's some BS. I stated my opinions, you're just ignoringaa-dono said: +1.logic340 said: Hnn why not? Abu deflect a direct question.aa-dono said: I don't like this plus 1 at all as you could have given who you think we should be looking into._Claire_ said: +1AbuHumaid said: And you have not answered who we should look into, if you dont like all attention on CP._Claire_ said: I never said you're pushing too hard what? getting defensive already?AbuHumaid said: What do you mean I am pushing too hard on CP? Its only the beginning of the game. Lol._Claire_ said: Fine this is a bastard game, this doesn't mean he has a higher of being scum. It's still a 50% chance AbuHumaid said: He will be a thorn in the ass later on if not dealt now._Claire_ said: what else could "Best Town" mean? even if he got a player that's known for being "best town". I never said it's 1000% guaranteed he's town what i'm saying is we should keep him for later and not waste too much time thinking about this. and you didn't answer my question btwAbuHumaid said: Duh. Since when the host announced him as Innocent Child?_Claire_ said: I never forgot that, regardless if it's a bastard game or not, innocent child is a townie role there's a higher chance he's town than scum. What makes you think that there's a higher chance for him to be scum?AbuHumaid said: You forget that this is a bastard game.there's a high possibility he's town, what if we suspect him and lynch him then he flips town? we would have wasted a lot of time that could be used to catch a legit scum There is higher chance he is scum, not town imo. The host just said he was best town. Best town =/= innocent child. Because "best town" can still roll as scum. He is only best town if he rolls town. Now we dont know if his role is scum/town so despite the person he rolls into is famous for being best town, there is no guarantee he is town. I already explained it, this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum than town from his grand opening by host. I will take a note that youre so unwilling to look at him now though, because we have got no better lead atm. Who do you propose we should look at then? Don't get me wrong, everyone should be pressured but pushing on CP too much so early in the game is scummy, if he's town a mafia would know it and try to get him mislynched using a weak reason like "this is a bastard game, he MUST be scum" If anything your unwillingness to divert our attention is suspicious. Who should we look into then, if not CP? Give a good suggestion and good reasons please, or you are under my red radar. why would a scum divert your attention? and why would they even bother? I'm not the one to boss you around, you can look into anyone you see sus @_Claire_ we are at the point where everyone needs to be looked into. So I choose logic for you to look into as I don't like your singular focus. I am asking for his opinion 2x and he just left or something RIP. Whisper is on my shit list too though. Barking wont work you know. :) Vote: Claire Well since you asked so nicely Don't be upset when you get everything that comes along with it though seeing as how you asked for this. Its funny how you have to announce that youre going to vote me. Why not just vote me directly tho? Hmm.. Also the fact that you are voting me, you have already fallen to the trap~ Nah its not a trap. I was just bluffing obviously~ So a bluff. I dont like how he votes me. Also, I wouldn't know traps :/ I've never known how to make one in any game. Unless I did, but never really realizing what I was doing... Arrisu said: Uh.. don't jinxed it. Last time you liked my post, we end up tunneling each other end game. I still remember alice working so hard to make us stop ;-;I like aa-dono. Lots of town effort. It pleases me since I usually have a null/scum read on her. :D _Claire_ said: Not that I hate towncred, but I still don't believe anyone grasp my towngame 8)On the other hand, Awa does sound like her townplay.. probably. I havent been playing for months, it could have changed. Just confirming, did you just think I were a mafia there? Hmm, I dont think I ever relax playing mafia. But I was liking you for town earlier. That's gone though. What do you think of Mishu? I dont remember playing with such laid back Mishu, but obviously I am an old grandma that will just forget everything. Also thinking that his thinking is a bit too out there for me to understand (But I can barely understand people, I am arrogant and pref my own opinions). _Claire_ said: Now she’s wavering from CP im looking forward to her future scumhunting. To me the whole situation with CP seemed like some early game pressuring and we shouldn’t take it too much into account right now, but do take note of it for later.aa-dono said: Lol your shishou roles scum so many times tho.. Including that Fav gameslastwhisper31 said: ...aa-dono said: Sometimes nope, try to keep your internet up this game please :P.lastwhisper31 said: I don't think I can be like logic even if I tried.aa-dono said: and you're trying to be like Logic, with the posts that make you sound like you're doing something. Logic will most likely answer the post too, but there's nothing wrong with two perspectives.CorruptedPurity said: ororo~ You're answering for uncle logic..Arrisu said: @logic340 - Why no RVS? Youre relatively active. Tbf the purpose of RVS is to apply pressure, promote activity and get the ball rolling. If one can accomplish that without the use of a vote, then I don't see the issue. On the other hand, if logic starts pressuring someone alot without voting them afterwards, I may find a problem with that depeding on the situation. As long as he's active and keeping the ball rolling, there's no real need to for him as an individual to participate in RVS o.O Are you saying logic's posts doesn't actually do anything? Perhaps you really are my bad luck ;----; @_Claire_ Yerr, if the assumption's true, everything CP said is probably the opposite of what he said~ but he's my shishou, I think I have to believe him. @CorruptedPurity any thoughts on your bastard role? Has been playing actively, and been questioning players, the question really is if his questions are really doing anything. Has been kinda defensive, and has been picking a fight with everyone, but that can honestly be both a scum or a town tell, depends on the player, I don’t know him, so that at least doesnt get me anywhere. I have scumread someone before because they were defensive about everything, and they flipped scum. What do ya’ll think? He did, however, make some solid points about the CP issue that I agree with. I’d like for him to get more into why is currently scumreading lastwhisper like he said he would. logic340 said: I’d like for his reasoning to be something else than making speculations based on previous games. Meta reading can be beneficial, but can also work against us. Nothing promises that a player will be using the same tactics again. What did you think of whisper's post? Do you think it's talking about the player or the role? I will share my thoughts on this with you later but I think it's clear to most of us who have been playing more recently. logic340 said: I don’t like this post, it’s dumb. Taking obvious joke claims serious won’t get us anywhere. I don’t have anything against him pressuring them, but do get some solid reasoning behind why you think they’re scum, outside of obvious fake scum tells.Abu/Labs/whisper have all scum claimed, I think it would be worth looking into and pressuring all of them heavily. logic340 said: It was early game, RVS period, jokes like that are taken less seriously than later on in the game._Claire_ said: Sure you can you just type it in the quick reply tab and press send. logic340 said: Lol...Abu/Labs/whisper have all scum claimed, I think it would be worth looking into and pressuring all of them heavily. I cant even tell you how unreasonable this is. But you play your game. So why do you feel it's unreasonable. I never said condemn them all I just said look into them. When I scum claim later on you all should look into me as well. logic340 said: Can you deliberately tell us why you’re voting Claire besides Arri’s reasoning? It looks like you’re jumping on a now easy train._Claire_ said: unvote:logic340 said: Vote me then.AbuHumaid said: I think I am ready to vote Claire with ari honestly. _Claire_ said: That's some BS. I stated my opinions, you're just ignoringaa-dono said: +1.logic340 said: Hnn why not? Abu deflect a direct question.aa-dono said: I don't like this plus 1 at all as you could have given who you think we should be looking into._Claire_ said: +1AbuHumaid said: And you have not answered who we should look into, if you dont like all attention on CP._Claire_ said: I never said you're pushing too hard what? getting defensive already?AbuHumaid said: What do you mean I am pushing too hard on CP? Its only the beginning of the game. Lol._Claire_ said: Fine this is a bastard game, this doesn't mean he has a higher of being scum. It's still a 50% chance AbuHumaid said: He will be a thorn in the ass later on if not dealt now._Claire_ said: what else could "Best Town" mean? even if he got a player that's known for being "best town". I never said it's 1000% guaranteed he's town what i'm saying is we should keep him for later and not waste too much time thinking about this. and you didn't answer my question btwAbuHumaid said: Duh. Since when the host announced him as Innocent Child?_Claire_ said: I never forgot that, regardless if it's a bastard game or not, innocent child is a townie role there's a higher chance he's town than scum. What makes you think that there's a higher chance for him to be scum?AbuHumaid said: You forget that this is a bastard game.there's a high possibility he's town, what if we suspect him and lynch him then he flips town? we would have wasted a lot of time that could be used to catch a legit scum There is higher chance he is scum, not town imo. The host just said he was best town. Best town =/= innocent child. Because "best town" can still roll as scum. He is only best town if he rolls town. Now we dont know if his role is scum/town so despite the person he rolls into is famous for being best town, there is no guarantee he is town. I already explained it, this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum than town from his grand opening by host. I will take a note that youre so unwilling to look at him now though, because we have got no better lead atm. Who do you propose we should look at then? Don't get me wrong, everyone should be pressured but pushing on CP too much so early in the game is scummy, if he's town a mafia would know it and try to get him mislynched using a weak reason like "this is a bastard game, he MUST be scum" If anything your unwillingness to divert our attention is suspicious. Who should we look into then, if not CP? Give a good suggestion and good reasons please, or you are under my red radar. why would a scum divert your attention? and why would they even bother? I'm not the one to boss you around, you can look into anyone you see sus @_Claire_ we are at the point where everyone needs to be looked into. So I choose logic for you to look into as I don't like your singular focus. I am asking for his opinion 2x and he just left or something RIP. Whisper is on my shit list too though. Barking wont work you know. :) Vote: Claire Well since you asked so nicely Don't be upset when you get everything that comes along with it though seeing as how you asked for this. logic340 said: Role fishing. CorruptedPurity said: Just to clear things up a bit what is your role/ability called?As usual I don't participate in RVS, but since I'm obviously best town, none of you have reasons to suspect me. To be honest, I'm not all that good at scumhunting (duh), so even while I will try to do so, I'll mainly utilize my role as a cleared town to help others scumhunt. An opinion of a clear town could be quite strong, as you can factor in on the all interactions and suspicions from me without having to worry if I am scum. So if you ever need my opinion on a certain read, just ping me. Also, can I get a "I respect that" for CP, the best town? Neutral, leaning scum on this one. I don’t really have enough to go on to make a good read on this person yet. It has overall been a lot of fluff and stating in the obvious, which I don’t like. Mishukax said: Here they went back on the subject of fake claiming scum. This was already on page 7, and it had long passed. They were active the entire game until here. So why tackle back on that subject now? I do understand however where they’re coming from.Gonna head out soon too, but for good measure: I'm not gonna tolerate a game full of "I'm scum" from Lamb. Not that I don't expect him to eventually step it up since I know he's good, but I want to mention this at least. And I suppose this concerns Abu and whisper as well. I understand the will to joke around, but claiming you're scum no matter the intent or context can get pretty confusing for town and people might end up reading you solely on the wine that such statements are creating. So yeah, I don't really care for those posts, just don't abuse them. Tingle and roz1roz are new players for me, I'm looking forward to them. Coelestin is... Chione, I believe? If so, heck yes. Good night to all. She’s prob my biggest town lean right now. But from what I can remember she’s good at the game and can get quite scary as both town and scum. So I will continue to be wary of her. And it’s still way to early to have a solid read on someone. Anyways, she voted and gave a good reasoning behind her vote and then afterwards continued to pressure the player. Her questions until now we’re good and straight to the point. I actually liked logic atm. I have a slight scum lean on LastWhisper as well, and I like that logic picks up on things I find suspicious. Though imo, the points are all weak and while it deserves suspicion and pressure, they're not scumtells. If you go by meta, most people would tell you that agressive logic = town!logic. I'm not familiar with his scum game though so to be he's just aggressive as a player sp picking fights is NAI. And yeah, he has the tendency to scream town, and gets defensive over the slightest hint of someone scumreading him. Even as town. I tend to disagree with logic's method so my views are sometimes biased so I like to get opinions on his slots, especially from those not familiar with his playstyle. Why do you think him asking for ability name = rolefishing though? Yeah, I like Arri for town atm too. For Mishu, I'm leaning towards scum but while it's not a strong read, it's a lingering suspicion. You didn't miss anything. I never did explain why I asked for them. They're just people I have my eyes on. Tingle said: Ya'll have to tell me what NAI means because it keeps popping up and I have no idea.. I also still don't fully understand what quote sniping is haha. ^^' 1. 2. 3. Tingle said: I just woke up catching up now. The reason I haven't voted yet, is because I tend to be more passive and careful about my votes. I won't place a vote without being able to fully back my vote up, and trust myself that I'm making the right choice. I also wanted to give logic the opportunity to clarify his posts. Anyway, back to reading. Tingle said: logic340 said: thanks for clearing this up for me. so if im understanding this right, you asked about the name of the passive ability to potentially clarify to everyone that best town = innocent child as the OP suggests. alright, my point of view on this question has changed. but of course, it could've also been you standing up for your scumbuddy, but as I don't particularly have anything on purity right now that makes me think he's scum, I don't think that's the case. I see I am being called out for role fishing over this? How am I role fishing a role that was revealed in the OP post? The quote below is a big part of the reason I asked the question in the quote above. People were acting like they didn't see an innocent child claim in Purity's I am town!firmed post or the OP post where it said he is best town in BLUE the color of town this game? So again I ask how was logic role fishing here when the role was known before logic even entered the thread and he was obviously asking for clarification for those who were questioning it as seen in the second quote below. Tingle said: logic340 said: 1. I'm confused by the terminology you're using. What do you mean by mudslinging? That you both were tunneling eachother? Or that he is making you looks bad, what is it? It must be annoying to have to keep explaining yourself, but you've got to be direct with me here or I won't understand. 1. I think I had made that pretty clear at that point. He was mudslinging me badly and the scum claim. 2. You can find the answer to this in #423. This was not a vote based of whisper meta this was a vote based on how I felt about this particular scum claim with the note of how I happened to catch him like this before. See I like to give as much info as I can so people can understand where I am coming from but at times I will omit some to see if people try to understand me by asking questions or just label it a town or scum motivated action. It can be quite telling when town isn't being lazy. 3. How do you know they are jokes and not actual scum claims unless you are scum clearing town here? Do you know something I do not? Also I have since answered this is #423 4. Um....did you miss where she asked me to vote for her? Claire said "Vote me then. Barking wont work you know. :)" to which I answered "unvote: Vote: Claire. Well since you asked so nicely. Don't be upset when you get everything that comes along with it though seeing as how you asked for this". I am not trying to be rude but if you follow the conversation in the quote chain why I did what I did is very clear. It's also stated in the post where you quoted. Now if you can make a case for why scum would place a vote like that then go right ahead but don't say you don't understand the reason for my vote when the reason is in the post you quoted. 5. I addressed in #427. Am I really role fishing here or am I trying to get people to understand Purity's role? 2 & 3. I think we've been misunderstanding eachother here. I was talking about Labs/Abu with the fake scum claim early game, which to me came off as a joke, that I'd expect from Labs tbh. It might not actually be a joke, you never really know with him but that was my judgement at the time. I do have to admit that I read over whisper's fake scum claim, that was quite different than those two, like you stated. "I shouldn't night kill you then". You called it a scum claim, but it looks to me more like a slip. Or could potentially be a tpr, or town aligned vigilante. But two of those three options are bad. I understand why this "joke" put you off now. Fluff can always mean more than it portrays so of course you should keep an eye open for whisper, but it's honestly not enough to make him scum for me. I'll have to reread his posts once again, to make a good judgement on that. 4. I now sorta understand your reasoning after reading through it again. So you're voting for her because she challenged you and you didn't like the gimmick she had going with Ari and you were standing up for Abu. I don't really like players standing up for eachother like that, because ultimately we're all on our own here because we're clueless to eachothers alignment so early in the game. But if you know Abu and your gut feeling is telling you town, who am I to question that. But please understand that his playstyle can get off as a bit scummy. He's ultimately avoiding answering questions completely, maybe they should be more direct, but maybe he should try harder in looking for a way to answer them. He's a bit to laid back imo. 5. i already tackled this in my previous posts, again thanks for clearing this up for me. Edit: Added some spaced between my points, because it became hard to read. Tingle said: It's the second half of first day phase, so.. I'm gonna go get something to eat, and then go over the thread once again to work out a bit of a read list and probably place my vote on the one that seems most scummy to me afterwards. This will prob take several hours, so if you have questions for me, now's your chance, because I can work on them while I'm at it. 1. 2. 3. 4. |
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Tingle said: I just woke up catching up now. The reason I haven't voted yet, is because I tend to be more passive and careful about my votes. I won't place a vote without being able to fully back my vote up, and trust myself that I'm making the right choice. I also wanted to give logic the opportunity to clarify his posts. Anyway, back to reading. Tingle said: logic340 said: thanks for clearing this up for me. so if im understanding this right, you asked about the name of the passive ability to potentially clarify to everyone that best town = innocent child as the OP suggests. alright, my point of view on this question has changed. but of course, it could've also been you standing up for your scumbuddy, but as I don't particularly have anything on purity right now that makes me think he's scum, I don't think that's the case. I see I am being called out for role fishing over this? How am I role fishing a role that was revealed in the OP post? The quote below is a big part of the reason I asked the question in the quote above. People were acting like they didn't see an innocent child claim in Purity's I am town!firmed post or the OP post where it said he is best town in BLUE the color of town this game? So again I ask how was logic role fishing here when the role was known before logic even entered the thread and he was obviously asking for clarification for those who were questioning it as seen in the second quote below. Tingle said: logic340 said: 1. I'm confused by the terminology you're using. What do you mean by mudslinging? That you both were tunneling eachother? Or that he is making you looks bad, what is it? It must be annoying to have to keep explaining yourself, but you've got to be direct with me here or I won't understand. 1. I think I had made that pretty clear at that point. He was mudslinging me badly and the scum claim. 2. You can find the answer to this in #423. This was not a vote based of whisper meta this was a vote based on how I felt about this particular scum claim with the note of how I happened to catch him like this before. See I like to give as much info as I can so people can understand where I am coming from but at times I will omit some to see if people try to understand me by asking questions or just label it a town or scum motivated action. It can be quite telling when town isn't being lazy. 3. How do you know they are jokes and not actual scum claims unless you are scum clearing town here? Do you know something I do not? Also I have since answered this is #423 4. Um....did you miss where she asked me to vote for her? Claire said "Vote me then. Barking wont work you know. :)" to which I answered "unvote: Vote: Claire. Well since you asked so nicely. Don't be upset when you get everything that comes along with it though seeing as how you asked for this". I am not trying to be rude but if you follow the conversation in the quote chain why I did what I did is very clear. It's also stated in the post where you quoted. Now if you can make a case for why scum would place a vote like that then go right ahead but don't say you don't understand the reason for my vote when the reason is in the post you quoted. 5. I addressed in #427. Am I really role fishing here or am I trying to get people to understand Purity's role? 2 & 3. I think we've been misunderstanding eachother here. I was talking about Labs/Abu with the fake scum claim early game, which to me came off as a joke, that I'd expect from Labs tbh. It might not actually be a joke, you never really know with him but that was my judgement at the time. I do have to admit that I read over whisper's fake scum claim, that was quite different than those two, like you stated. "I shouldn't night kill you then". You called it a scum claim, but it looks to me more like a slip. Or could potentially be a tpr, or town aligned vigilante. But two of those three options are bad. I understand why this "joke" put you off now. Fluff can always mean more than it portrays so of course you should keep an eye open for whisper, but it's honestly not enough to make him scum for me. I'll have to reread his posts once again, to make a good judgement on that. 4. I now sorta understand your reasoning after reading through it again. So you're voting for her because she challenged you and you didn't like the gimmick she had going with Ari and you were standing up for Abu. I don't really like players standing up for eachother like that, because ultimately we're all on our own here because we're clueless to eachothers alignment so early in the game. But if you know Abu and your gut feeling is telling you town, who am I to question that. But please understand that his playstyle can get off as a bit scummy. He's ultimately avoiding answering questions completely, maybe they should be more direct, but maybe he should try harder in looking for a way to answer them. He's a bit to laid back imo. 5. i already tackled this in my previous posts, again thanks for clearing this up for me. Edit: Added some spaced between my points, because it became hard to read. Tingle said: It's the second half of first day phase, so.. I'm gonna go get something to eat, and then go over the thread once again to work out a bit of a read list and probably place my vote on the one that seems most scummy to me afterwards. This will prob take several hours, so if you have questions for me, now's your chance, because I can work on them while I'm at it. 1. 2. 3. 4. Tingle said: Ugh, I honestly just started an hour ago on my post because I forgot, I'm not even halfway.. And my mom decided to finally have some family time, so she's dragging me to the movies.. I don't know if I'll be home on time for phase change.. =.= Here's hoping that I'll be back on time to finish this and to place my vote. Tingle said: @logic340, with not even halfway I meant I just finished dono and that's the first person on my list.. It's also only my personal notes right now, can't get much out of it.. But sure... To describe my work process, I go over every page for each player separately and look at their posts.. Aa-dono. Pretty much all fluff, something that I can remember her doing when I played with her before a long time ago, it’s as ya’ll call it NAI to me, with 2-3 broad questions to people until page 5 when she posted the post in which she stated which posts she liked. aa-dono said: There’s nothing notably wrong with this post. Starting from this point she started questioning a bit more and gave out some +1s. She’s been portraying at least some town effort and I respect that. Because of her questionings we got some useful info as town. So far, there are three votes that I like. 1. Claire - She grasp at whatever lead she can now, and already started to move out of RVS with her vote. 2. logic - Similar to above, though I only agree with some of the points on Last. I fluff a lot as a player so i don't really see Last's fluff as AI. Esp not this early. 3. Arrisu - I like her view on Claire's vote. Most likely town effort. aa-dono said: She’s explaining someone’s elses reasoning behind doing something. If she flips scum I know who to further investigate. CorruptedPurity said: aa-dono said: 1. I agree but we must also consider her purpose. Did she do this to move out of RVS or does she really think that I, best town mind you, am scum?So far, there are three votes that I like. 1. Claire - She grasp at whatever lead she can now, and already started to move out of RVS with her vote. 2. logic - Similar to above, though I only agree with some of the points on Last. I fluff a lot as a player so i don't really see Last's fluff as AI. Esp not this early. 3. Arrisu - I like her view on Claire's vote. Most likely town effort. 2. I find alot of his arguments kind of weak though. Like you said with last, fluff aint alignment indicative. His push on Claire was better to read but it seems to forced. Is claire really scum or just misguided town? To just lump her in the scumread is too rash I think. But if it's anything, I do like him as townread. 3. I am not as sure about this. Before this, Ari is more questions less answers. Pinging people as asking them for their opinions without giving her own. It's like lazy scum trying to be active. His Claire push made sense though, that much I'll give. 1. I think she's using the announcement as a way to move forward with her reads. I don't really think she believes strongly that you're scum. Her posts sounds wary and it's really mostly others who said she's tunneling or focusing on you. From how I see it, she's been pushing Abu and logic as well. (maybe me too, not sure) So her vote and pushes are on town side of things. 2. How is it forced? 3. Hnn, I ask a lot of questions too. Maybe it's just that no one ask Arri much? aa-dono said: She kinda does it again here.. But she does finally give her explaination here..Coelestin said: aa-dono said: Is it really good to grasp at ANY lead you can? It's not exactly even a legit one. So far, there are three votes that I like. 1. Claire - She grasp at whatever lead she can now, and already started to move out of RVS with her vote. But yeah, that vote is not scummy to me. aa-dono said: Coelestin said: aa-dono said: Is it really good to grasp at ANY lead you can? It's not exactly even a legit one. So far, there are three votes that I like. 1. Claire - She grasp at whatever lead she can now, and already started to move out of RVS with her vote. But yeah, that vote is not scummy to me. aa-dono said: In the next post she describes her thoughts so far on page 11. She doesn’t get into too much detail, so her reads don’t really convince me. Coelestin said: aa-dono said: Well, I actually am interested in your view on it, since she's already said enough about her own defense imo. Kind of sounds paradox that you like with Arrisu's reasons for the vote but also support Claire's vote. Coelestin said: Idk, I can think of reasons why it's a reasonable lead. Not that I want to share it, since it's her defense.aa-dono said: Is it really good to grasp at ANY lead you can? It's not exactly even a legit one. So far, there are three votes that I like. 1. Claire - She grasp at whatever lead she can now, and already started to move out of RVS with her vote. But yeah, that vote is not scummy to me. Here it is then: It was early phase, and not everyone posted yet. Iirc, she mentioned wanting to vote for RVS but has found a better lead. Playing in previous game, where Denja (haha) was the mafia innocent-child, it actually made sense that she finds pressuring CP over the role as a good lead. And Claire is a meta player. She made the post/vote somewhere in page 2-3. So yee, it was very early. Whether it's a good lead or not is subjective. I think it's NAI. She thinks it's worth pursuing. If she's scum, she could have just gone with RVS. In that early pages, what else would be considered a good lead? Everyone else went for RVS and tried to interact through that, she made an entrance with that. That's the gist of it. She's kinda neutral to me atm, so it feels weird defending her vote. aa-dono said: Decided to push a vote unto Mishu later this page. Which I respect, can’t let anyone pass under the radar. Still not really sure about her questions to people. They seem kinda broad, don’t know how to explain it. But it feels like questions that are easy to ask.. It makes her look like she’s trying to look like she’s helping. Might just be my gut playing games with me.Who knows. I like logic for town tbh. But not into yours and Coel's vote. I rather push Mishu since that's a sneaky perfect clean slot that fooled me before (and I'm certain he forgot about it). I kinda like that Chi knows the struggle of finding a way to pressure that slot. I'm liking Lamb for putting his vote on Mishu, but he didn't respond when I asked. I didn't get notifications from anyone I pinged too. So I'm not sure if they replied to me :/ I saw Last's list of Lamb's posts but that doesn't really tell me anything about why he suspected Lamb. What about Arri is scummy to you? 1. 2. Tingle said: Just got home, won't be able to finish my list, I'll skim through everything said since I last was here. And see what I can do with this short amount of time left. Tingle said: logic340 said: I said im skipping through what happened just now, I'm not finishing my list that will take hours. I'm sorry if I wasnt clear enough about that. I'll get back to you after I've caught up with these three pages. Tingle said: Just got home, won't be able to finish my list, I'll skim through everything said since I last was here. And see what I can do with this short amount of time left. How do you feel about the current lynch train? Tingle said: Vote: Phraze Tingle said: crap I shouldve just stayed at page 15 Tingle said: I'm willing to push for a lynch when it comes down to it. I was in the middle of page 14 when I looked at the time and from what I had read up until there from the current "trains" this one seemed to most valuable one. I'll get back on whether or not I made a good late judgement here or not, after I made my goddamn list. I'll have 24 hours now to work on it. And debate whether I should post it during night phase, or wait till day phase, hoping that I'll survive the night. Tingle said: He was neutral, with a bit of scum vibes.. Hadn't read into him enough yet. 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. Tingle said: we lost cop... im- Tingle said: logic340 said: wow I just finally realised why you sometimes seemed to talk in third person.. i thought you were just a bit of a wacko ;) but you were talking about whoever could have the logic card. im dumb.OMG!!! That second ability....lol. Phraze lied about her claim....wow. Wonder who logic is and if he is scum since that passive activated if logic gets lynched. I am assuming that means flavour logic and not the player btw. Tingle said: AbuHumaid said: oh thats confusingTingle said: logic340 said: wow I just finally realised why you sometimes seemed to talk in third person.. i thought you were just a bit of a wacko ;) but you were talking about whoever could have the logic card. im dumb.OMG!!! That second ability....lol. Phraze lied about her claim....wow. Wonder who logic is and if he is scum since that passive activated if logic gets lynched. I am assuming that means flavour logic and not the player btw. 1. 2. 3. 4. Interaction analysis KEY: | = Strong interaction (Vote/Pressure/Gametalk) - = Weak interaction (Fluff/Passive Mention) logic340: |||||||- Phraze: | Coelestin: | aa-dono: || Last: Labs: | Claire: Suzune-chan: - CorruptedPurity: || AbuHumaid: |- Maitai: roz1roz: |- Arrisu: | Mishukax: |- This is operating under the assumption that Tingle is Mafia. I am not counting her read list posts as interactions. They have no interactions with Last, Clarie, MaiTai, or Phraze The one interaction I have marked with Phraze is their vote on Phraze They have one interaction with Arrisu, Labs, and Coelestin They have two interactions with AbuHumaid, roz1roz, Suzune-chan, CorruptedPurity, and Mishukax Most of their interactions were with logic scum read logic but never voted him. Edit: Added roz to the two interaction section. |
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Aug 21, 2017 5:40 PM
#917
@Logic340 - What do you think are the odds of her not having any interactions with her scum buddies? I can understand her not having any interactions with Phraze and Maitai because they weren't active at the same time. But Whisper and Claire? I'm pretty sure Tingle was around when both these players were present. |
Aug 21, 2017 5:44 PM
#918
Arrisu said: show me times when we were both online? If I didn't interact with her then I saw no need to.@Logic340 - What do you think are the odds of her not having any interactions with her scum buddies? I can understand her not having any interactions with Phraze and Maitai because they weren't active at the same time. But Whisper and Claire? I'm pretty sure Tingle was around when both these players were present. |
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Aug 21, 2017 5:48 PM
#919
@Arrisu if it pleases you, once I get home, a long side what I planned to do, I will also anaylize me and Tingles online times. |
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Aug 21, 2017 5:55 PM
#920
Arrisu said: I think it is quite possible honestly but more likely one not both. Also it could be that they just didn't interact with many people due to their own lack of activity. I think looking into how they approached the slots they didn't interact with at all will be revealing. Their position on CP conf town is something we should look into and think about.@Logic340 - What do you think are the odds of her not having any interactions with her scum buddies? I can understand her not having any interactions with Phraze and Maitai because they weren't active at the same time. But Whisper and Claire? I'm pretty sure Tingle was around when both these players were present. |
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Aug 21, 2017 5:59 PM
#921
lastwhisper31 said: This is just her interactions going out from her slot to other players and not the other way around. She didn't interact with you but Idk if it was the other way around. Also you don't have to be online together to interact with one another. You were a hot topic and while she touched on me and you a bit she did not actually ask you any questions or anything. Again I want to work with you today so please don't view everything like an attack, we are just working through the information. Arrisu said: show me times when we were both online? If I didn't interact with her then I saw no need to.@Logic340 - What do you think are the odds of her not having any interactions with her scum buddies? I can understand her not having any interactions with Phraze and Maitai because they weren't active at the same time. But Whisper and Claire? I'm pretty sure Tingle was around when both these players were present. |
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Aug 21, 2017 6:10 PM
#922
lastwhisper31 said: I think there are better uses of your time than this? Furthering your read on Labs with all the flips seems like something good to do. @Arrisu if it pleases you, once I get home, a long side what I planned to do, I will also anaylize me and Tingles online times. |
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Aug 21, 2017 6:11 PM
#923
logic340 said: lastwhisper31 said: This is just her interactions going out from her slot to other players and not the other way around. She didn't interact with you but Idk if it was the other way around. Also you don't have to be online together to interact with one another. You were a hot topic and while she touched on me and you a bit she did not actually ask you any questions or anything. Again I want to work with you today so please don't view everything like an attack, we are just working through the information. Arrisu said: @Logic340 - What do you think are the odds of her not having any interactions with her scum buddies? I can understand her not having any interactions with Phraze and Maitai because they weren't active at the same time. But Whisper and Claire? I'm pretty sure Tingle was around when both these players were present. +1 for Logic's response. It was an observation so I see no need to get so defensive. Tbh I can't wait to see your reasonings for thinking that I'm the scummiest player right now. This better be good~ |
Aug 21, 2017 6:14 PM
#924
@CorruptedPurity are you around? |
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Aug 21, 2017 6:15 PM
#925
You know we like to see you struggle ~ We didn't messed up anything, everything we do is intentional. Please remember to read the setup We, the hosts, love to mess with your heads and see what kind of theories you come up with ^^ |
Aug 21, 2017 6:20 PM
#926
I'm not dead |
Aug 21, 2017 6:20 PM
#927
2.1 Arrisu lastwhisper, AbuHumaid Mishukax Arrisu 1. aa-dono 2. Last > Arrisu 3. Labs 4.. Claire 6. logic340 > roz1roz > Unvote > 7. Suzune-chan 8. CorruptivePurity 9. AbuHumaid > Arrisu 10. Maitai 11. roz1roz 12. Arrisu > Mishukax 14. Mishukax Not voting: aa-dono, Labs, Claire, logic340, Suzune-chan, CorruptivePurity, Maitai, roz1roz, Mishukax || T I M E R || Mod comments: Keep it civil ~ |
Aug 21, 2017 6:25 PM
#928
AbuHumaid said: Was her push on Phraze EoD1 really enough to completely change the way you felt about her here?aa-dono said: I'm town leaning with Arrisu, I like what she said about Claire. She said what's in my mind exactly, as for logic based on meta he's too emotional to be scum, a scum logic is way more clam than that. and IDK about Mishu yet@AbuHumaid What do you think of Arri, logic and Mishu? @Tingle same question (plus Claire) |
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Aug 21, 2017 6:27 PM
#929
Coelestin said: Makes me think she was targeted with the hopes of dropping two bodies? Would be funny if they popped Coelestin last nigh and dropped themselves in the process.On another note, I'm searching for someone who has the same passive ability as me. It has something to do with trains and love. Whether you let me know who you are or not is up to you, but yeah, just know that I'm here. Everyone else, you can ignore this. |
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Aug 21, 2017 6:35 PM
#930
Ruu said: I respect that. Since it's you I should expect things to be extra bastard >_> #SHAMELESSHOSTMETAYou know we like to see you struggle ~ We didn't messed up anything, everything we do is intentional. Please remember to read the setup We, the hosts, love to mess with your heads and see what kind of theories you come up with ^^ |
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Aug 21, 2017 6:38 PM
#931
@CorruptedPurity your thoughts on the different Role PM background? No townies have come forward to say they also have a red role PM background. What do you make of the Coelestin kill and do you think tingle flipped town or mafia? |
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Aug 21, 2017 6:47 PM
#932
Welp. I'm out for the night. I have a busy day with work tomorrow but I will try and pop in and see what's up. |
Aug 21, 2017 7:08 PM
#933
Suzune-chan said: I finally understand what you were getting at here. Logic, I don't understand. Why tell people what is worth pressuring instead of just doing it? @logic340 How can I pressure 3 people myself? I am encouraging others to help me. I already had a town read on Abu but for those who didn't it was a way they could pressure and gain a better read. Same with Labs who I was and still am neutral on and lastwhisper who I was scum reading at the time and don't know what to make of right now. So I was already pressuring last and suggested that people pressure and look into the others. Not for being scum but to further their own reads. |
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Aug 21, 2017 7:11 PM
#934
Suzune, has a terrible headache and can't sleep so there is a catch up post coming~ |
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Aug 21, 2017 7:16 PM
#935
lastwhisper31 said: ROAR!!!!!Its funny how drastically the tone of this game changes, once Logic hops in. Logic got us guys, Me, Lamby, and Abu for scum team. Im going to sleep... Just kidding. Have you been able to catch up yet? Sorry if you posted already I am back reading. |
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Aug 21, 2017 7:21 PM
#936
aa-dono said: After re-reading this quote chain I am really surprised that you took Clarie's side of this and even went as far as to bring up deflecting from a direct question with everything else that we got out of Abu during this interaction with Clare. I feel like people look at one post too often instead of what lead to the post they are thinking about. I also feel like if you want Abu to answer something asking barebones questions like who should we look into is the wrong way to go about it. Even worse since I caught flack for saying we should look into Abu/last/Labs for their scum claims and got a ton of backlash for it. logic340 said: Hnn why not? Abu deflect a direct question.aa-dono said: _Claire_ said: +1AbuHumaid said: And you have not answered who we should look into, if you dont like all attention on CP._Claire_ said: I never said you're pushing too hard what? getting defensive already?AbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: Fine this is a bastard game, this doesn't mean he has a higher of being scum. It's still a 50% chance AbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: what else could "Best Town" mean? even if he got a player that's known for being "best town". I never said it's 1000% guaranteed he's town what i'm saying is we should keep him for later and not waste too much time thinking about this. and you didn't answer my question btwAbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: I never forgot that, regardless if it's a bastard game or not, innocent child is a townie role there's a higher chance he's town than scum. What makes you think that there's a higher chance for him to be scum?AbuHumaid said: there's a high possibility he's town, what if we suspect him and lynch him then he flips town? we would have wasted a lot of time that could be used to catch a legit scum You forget that this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum, not town imo. Duh. Since when the host announced him as Innocent Child? The host just said he was best town. Best town =/= innocent child. Because "best town" can still roll as scum. He is only best town if he rolls town. Now we dont know if his role is scum/town so despite the person he rolls into is famous for being best town, there is no guarantee he is town. He will be a thorn in the ass later on if not dealt now. I already explained it, this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum than town from his grand opening by host. I will take a note that youre so unwilling to look at him now though, because we have got no better lead atm. Who do you propose we should look at then? Don't get me wrong, everyone should be pressured but pushing on CP too much so early in the game is scummy, if he's town a mafia would know it and try to get him mislynched using a weak reason like "this is a bastard game, he MUST be scum" What do you mean I am pushing too hard on CP? Its only the beginning of the game. Lol. If anything your unwillingness to divert our attention is suspicious. Who should we look into then, if not CP? Give a good suggestion and good reasons please, or you are under my red radar. why would a scum divert your attention? and why would they even bother? I'm not the one to boss you around, you can look into anyone you see sus @_Claire_ we are at the point where everyone needs to be looked into. So I choose logic for you to look into as I don't like your singular focus. Edit: Why was whoever Abu decided to say better then the options I chose without being asked? |
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Aug 21, 2017 7:21 PM
#937
logic340 said: I'll be on soon haha.lastwhisper31 said: ROAR!!!!!Its funny how drastically the tone of this game changes, once Logic hops in. Logic got us guys, Me, Lamby, and Abu for scum team. Im going to sleep... Just kidding. Have you been able to catch up yet? Sorry if you posted already I am back reading. |
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Aug 21, 2017 7:23 PM
#938
I honestly, think the Praze train @Logic340, was something that formed really late. While I did not get a great read on them myself I did list them as lightly scummy but the train almost looks like it formed out of a convenience.There were enough people who were kind of leaning both directions about phraze and they just happened to be online. There were not really any major trains competing with it at that time so it formed merely by creating interest for it. Which in the end is a dangerous kind of train forming. You also missed my point. At the point of the game where I commented on you saying things but not following up on them, it was left so open an general. Almost like, we need to follow Logic here. |
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Aug 21, 2017 7:25 PM
#939
_Claire_ said: From my PoV it's likely that three townies were the object of our narrow focus yesterday. What will you be doing today? Is there anyway I can get you to broaden your horizons a little bit?logic340 said: aa-dono said: _Claire_ said: +1AbuHumaid said: And you have not answered who we should look into, if you dont like all attention on CP._Claire_ said: I never said you're pushing too hard what? getting defensive already?AbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: Fine this is a bastard game, this doesn't mean he has a higher of being scum. It's still a 50% chance AbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: what else could "Best Town" mean? even if he got a player that's known for being "best town". I never said it's 1000% guaranteed he's town what i'm saying is we should keep him for later and not waste too much time thinking about this. and you didn't answer my question btwAbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: I never forgot that, regardless if it's a bastard game or not, innocent child is a townie role there's a higher chance he's town than scum. What makes you think that there's a higher chance for him to be scum?AbuHumaid said: there's a high possibility he's town, what if we suspect him and lynch him then he flips town? we would have wasted a lot of time that could be used to catch a legit scum You forget that this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum, not town imo. Duh. Since when the host announced him as Innocent Child? The host just said he was best town. Best town =/= innocent child. Because "best town" can still roll as scum. He is only best town if he rolls town. Now we dont know if his role is scum/town so despite the person he rolls into is famous for being best town, there is no guarantee he is town. He will be a thorn in the ass later on if not dealt now. I already explained it, this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum than town from his grand opening by host. I will take a note that youre so unwilling to look at him now though, because we have got no better lead atm. Who do you propose we should look at then? Don't get me wrong, everyone should be pressured but pushing on CP too much so early in the game is scummy, if he's town a mafia would know it and try to get him mislynched using a weak reason like "this is a bastard game, he MUST be scum" What do you mean I am pushing too hard on CP? Its only the beginning of the game. Lol. If anything your unwillingness to divert our attention is suspicious. Who should we look into then, if not CP? Give a good suggestion and good reasons please, or you are under my red radar. why would a scum divert your attention? and why would they even bother? I'm not the one to boss you around, you can look into anyone you see sus @_Claire_ we are at the point where everyone needs to be looked into. So I choose logic for you to look into as I don't like your singular focus. "If you focus on everything, you will get nothing. Focus on something, and you might get something" - Claire, 2017 |
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Aug 21, 2017 7:26 PM
#940
_Claire_ said: Arrisu said: @_Claire_ - Fair enough. Besides, what do you think of Logic and Whisper's disagreement? @aa-dono - That goes for you as well. I feel like Logic always has this fight with anyone regardless of his alignment Lol. So nothing. I am honestly looking for something from Logic. Have up found what you were looking for? |
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Aug 21, 2017 7:33 PM
#941
Suzune-chan said: Yes with the speed at which it formed it should have been sign of bad things but it was that or roz and no one was interested in lynching TPR at the time it seems? I honestly, think the Praze train @Logic340, was something that formed really late. While I did not get a great read on them myself I did list them as lightly scummy but the train almost looks like it formed out of a convenience.There were enough people who were kind of leaning both directions about phraze and they just happened to be online. There were not really any major trains competing with it at that time so it formed merely by creating interest for it. Which in the end is a dangerous kind of train forming. You also missed my point. At the point of the game where I commented on you saying things but not following up on them, it was left so open an general. Almost like, we need to follow Logic here. It was left so open because I am not trying to influence people's opinions. Seems that people took it the wrong way as if I scum read all of them for it. Had people read my Abu town read a few posts earlier I am not sure how a scum read on all of them for that could even be thought of? Not sure how making a suggestion on who to look into and others misunderstanding it is my fault but eh.... |
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Aug 21, 2017 7:34 PM
#942
@logic340 so just to clear this up, you are playing off the fact that you believe Tingles is scum because of the name Trap, and the fact that he banner was slightly Red? Thats why you were looking at Tingles interactions? Edit: Not asking this to undermine you, I just wanted to make sure I understand where you are at currently. |
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Aug 21, 2017 7:36 PM
#943
logic340 said: With fifteen people it would not be a stretch, Pyro and I have built games like that before. At the very least, we know that a second killing role went off but whether it was a vigilante or paranoid gun owner is unknown. These deaths are both quite surprising. I surely want expecting 2 deaths with roz claiming protective TPR. What are the chances we are dealing with two TPR's this game? Arrisu said: This is actually a very fair point. I initially read it is a trap, like a boy appearing as a girl, but in the literal sense of it being a trap that would suggest a scum role being covered by pretending to be town. Not a very good trap though if they cards are going to be coloured. Random preference wise, I think the dark ones are prettier.Anybody else noticed the color of Tingle's character card was red? Also the name of her character was "Trap"? Could it be that she had an ability to reveal as town upon death? I mean so far Phraze's and Coelestin's cards were blue. Right, but survivors often get lynched regardless, so it is not unheard of to have an outted third party role get killed simply for the potential they work against the town. |
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Aug 21, 2017 7:37 PM
#944
aa-dono said: If I had a nickel for every time a question I asked went unanswered I'd be a wealthy man. How is that indicative of anything when I have town and scum doing it me all the time? If examples are needed there are plenty I can pull from this game alone and not to be rude but if we are going with that reasoning then I would expect you to already be on top of it? Meaning who else hasn't been answering questions directed at them?logic340 said: I don't deal with direct meta. Question asked, you answer. He has every right not to answer, but that doesn't discredit Claire's push on him. Let him answer things directed at him - or choose not to, and be read for it.aa-dono said: logic340 said: Hnn why not? Abu deflect a direct question.aa-dono said: I don't like this plus 1 at all as you could have given who you think we should be looking into._Claire_ said: +1AbuHumaid said: And you have not answered who we should look into, if you dont like all attention on CP._Claire_ said: I never said you're pushing too hard what? getting defensive already?AbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: Fine this is a bastard game, this doesn't mean he has a higher of being scum. It's still a 50% chance AbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: what else could "Best Town" mean? even if he got a player that's known for being "best town". I never said it's 1000% guaranteed he's town what i'm saying is we should keep him for later and not waste too much time thinking about this. and you didn't answer my question btwAbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: I never forgot that, regardless if it's a bastard game or not, innocent child is a townie role there's a higher chance he's town than scum. What makes you think that there's a higher chance for him to be scum?AbuHumaid said: there's a high possibility he's town, what if we suspect him and lynch him then he flips town? we would have wasted a lot of time that could be used to catch a legit scum You forget that this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum, not town imo. Duh. Since when the host announced him as Innocent Child? The host just said he was best town. Best town =/= innocent child. Because "best town" can still roll as scum. He is only best town if he rolls town. Now we dont know if his role is scum/town so despite the person he rolls into is famous for being best town, there is no guarantee he is town. He will be a thorn in the ass later on if not dealt now. I already explained it, this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum than town from his grand opening by host. I will take a note that youre so unwilling to look at him now though, because we have got no better lead atm. Who do you propose we should look at then? Don't get me wrong, everyone should be pressured but pushing on CP too much so early in the game is scummy, if he's town a mafia would know it and try to get him mislynched using a weak reason like "this is a bastard game, he MUST be scum" What do you mean I am pushing too hard on CP? Its only the beginning of the game. Lol. If anything your unwillingness to divert our attention is suspicious. Who should we look into then, if not CP? Give a good suggestion and good reasons please, or you are under my red radar. why would a scum divert your attention? and why would they even bother? I'm not the one to boss you around, you can look into anyone you see sus @_Claire_ we are at the point where everyone needs to be looked into. So I choose logic for you to look into as I don't like your singular focus. |
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Aug 21, 2017 7:38 PM
#945
I need to do some stuff before I can spend the rest of the night focused on this game, so I'll be back. |
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Aug 21, 2017 7:44 PM
#946
lastwhisper31 said: We will go over this once you have read the thread and understand the chain of events. I want you caught up before I go explaining thing to you because I would like your thoughts before I put together everything that is already there. Try to see this from my pov I need info too.@logic340 so just to clear this up, you are playing off the fact that you believe Tingles is scum because of the name Trap, and the fact that he banner was slightly Red? Thats why you were looking at Tingles interactions? Edit: Not asking this to undermine you, I just wanted to make sure I understand where you are at currently. |
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Aug 21, 2017 7:44 PM
#947
logic340 said: I think the important part of looking at that vote count is to talk about all the people from Arrisu back because that was the vote that started forming the train while Mishu and Claire were just kind of hanging out on the train before hand. That was the point where it formed and if you were to discuss reasons for joining it even though I am not certain it was well thought out that would be the springboard point. I will go back and look once I read the end~ logic340 said: 1.5 Phraze: Mishukax, Claire, Arrisu, logic340, aadono, Tingle, roz1roz Claire: Abu, Suzune-chan Mishukax: Labs Arrisu: Phraze lastwhisper: Coelestin Labs lastwhisper Not voting: CorruptivePurity, Maitai 1. aa-dono > Arrisu > Mishukax > Phraze 2. Last > Claire > Logic > Labs 3. Labs > CorruptivePurity > Mishukax 4.. Claire > CorruptivePurity > logic340 > Phraze 5. Tingle > Phraze 6. logic340 > lastwhisper > Claire > lastwhisper > roz1roz > Phraze 7. Suzune-chan > Coelestin> Claire 8. CorruptivePurity 9. AbuHumaid > logic340 > Claire 10. Maitai 11. roz1roz > Phraze 12. Arrisu > Coelestin> Claire > Phraze 13. Coelestin > Mishukax > logic340 > lastwhisper 14. Mishukax > Phraze 15. Phraze > Mishukax > lastwhisper > Arrisu Mod comments: Please be kind to one another ~ Well that little correction to the phase change post changes my view on everything right now. @roz1roz as I told you mafia on MS will jump on late. Experience it in Kitty Mafia and now here. I would not be surprised if another scum was on the train. MaiTai is likely not scum jumping on at that point with their teammate but again I want more than their interaction with me. If we have a vig good shot. I think I am a little less inclined to vote roz now that two deaths weren't town but he still remains an option if we run into trouble catching scum. Time to look at tingle's interactions. There isn't much to go on there so this shouldn't take long. unvote: |
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Aug 21, 2017 7:49 PM
#948
Arrisu said: I actually considered this too. Or at least that they would avoid criticizing their scum buddies. @Logic340 - What do you think are the odds of her not having any interactions with her scum buddies? I can understand her not having any interactions with Phraze and Maitai because they weren't active at the same time. But Whisper and Claire? I'm pretty sure Tingle was around when both these players were present. |
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Aug 21, 2017 7:52 PM
#949
I am here lurking for a moment while Suzune catches up. Hoping other post. Was kind of expecting Mishu and Purity to post while they were here? |
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Aug 21, 2017 8:01 PM
#950
Happy late bird day, Suzu o/ Ok, roz1roz claimed Survivor or something similar. Of course, he's a no-lynch from now on. That claim was so ridiculously out of nowhere that I force myself to believe it to some extent. Only the role looks slightly unoriginal in this setup but eh. lastwhisper31 said: Being low key roasted, all day, while at work. I'm just playing how I play, if I'm giving off scum vibes then there isn't much I can say. Seems tho that in the 4 hours I've been at work, still got 3 more, all I see is posts focused on me. #Feelsbad @Logic340 to be all honest, idk what game ur reading that helped u come to conclusion that this is another one of my scum games, I'm sorry but ur diving to deep into meta, cause I ain't scum this game. I'll post again later, I just wanted to make this post while on break. This feels townie. It's some early beef against a lynch on him that barely even took off. Doesn't really come off as stressful overreacting to me. Can you go into details now? Explain the people why I'm town! [quote=AbuHumaid message=51999540] aa-dono said: I like what she said about Claire. She said what's in my mind exactly, as for logic based on meta he's too emotional to be scum, a scum logic is way more clam than that. and IDK about Mishu yet Whydopeopleonlyreadlogicbasedonhisemotionsholycrap. Just got out of Hydra Mafia where people townread him for being emotional or whatever, turns out he was scum, which made sense because of his actions which were relatively scummy. I just don't believe in 'emotion' as a tell anymore, and I think I never really did, sorry. I do agree that, emotions aside, logic is off to a nice start. AbuHumaid said: Coelestin said: this feels like role fishingOn another note, I'm searching for someone who has the same passive ability as me. It has something to do with trains and love. Whether you let me know who you are or not is up to you, but yeah, just know that I'm here. Everyone else, you can ignore this. How in the world. No it doesn't. logic340 said: I will say that I am kind of tired of being the errand boy as people are being to lazy to even go back 2 pages in this game and it's quite frustrating. This is another mindset from logic which I like. Scum tend to like to repeat their words because they've put confident thought into them and would rather make themselves as clear as possible. Suzune-chan said: Sure clearly I am voting them because I think they are scum. However, that is not currently true.I no longer think that, but I did not like their entrance much. Actually I have never seen so man people agreeable in a series of pages before and that stood out to me. Like I can see the town block forming. I will update you on my read and probably change vote if I ever get to the end of this catch up. I don't know if mafia are the ones who killed Coelestin, but this post could mean something. To be honest, I didn't like Coel's entrance either and I could feel people liking her presence for reasons I couldn't quite grasp myself, so I agree with Suzune. But the fact that she says "I can see the town block forming" would explain the night kill if Suzune is scum, as you don't really want a townlock alive in the game. Still, maybe the actual scum had the same view on Coel's slot. Arrisu said: So you're joining us or not? I like this from Arrisu. Constant poking (taking acount earlier posts from that page as well), wanting to get people on Phraze when there's really no reason for scum to do that. However the biggest other train was Claire's so there's possibility of a defend-Claire-by-changing-focus going on. Still, seems like too obvious of a CFD, I don't think I see scum doing this...? People who followed Arrisu are more of interest, though. I want to look into that but bleh, maybe when I'm up for it another time. Arrisu said: @Phraze - Clearly you didn't read the first half of D1 for assuming I had no strong opinion about Claire. I can't wait to see your flip. Either way a town not bothering to read the phase is rather antitown. Though I would be very surprised if you'd flip town. Eh, now I don't like this one. I feel that the antitown thing is unfair, but what bothers me the most is that last sentence. My experience with these types of posts is that they scream something like: "I'm 100% sure you're scum, and I'm certain of it to a point where I can't possibly be mafia, as mafia would display more doubt in their reads!" Tingle said: Vote: Phraze Gotta agree on what people pointed out: these votes look good since there's no reason to lock a lynch that's getting done anyway. I have to say though, that I've seen scum abuse of that to try and clear themselves. It's a rather easy tactic. Basically this. Though roz1roz is apparently TPR and Tingle I would also assume is scum from the card color. If anything bothers me, it's that... why make a role scum that flips town if something as obvious and easy to notice as the card color ruins it anyway? Suzune roughly mentioned this too and I was like "yeah wait that'd be a weird move from host (?)". In any case, as for MaiTai's vote, it couuuld be seen as scummy, but I don't really have a problem with their explanation for their vote. Arrisu said: Town is typically more hesitant to hop onto an already strong wagon. Especially when they haven't caught up (@Tingle @Maitai). This makes sense too. roz1roz said: Blue is town or mafia? Someone fill me up on this? This looks like a forced derp-clear :/ I don't quite buy that you could seen blue as mafia, even if you've always seen green used before or something. I'm at #823 and will stop here. Sorry, I've done so much mafia today, more than I should have. I'll give my eyes and mind a rest and probably come back at noon tomorrow to make sure not to fall behind. See you guys. |
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