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Aug 20, 2017 3:12 PM
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@Kaitou MaiTai voted Phraze too, you didn't count it
Aug 20, 2017 3:13 PM

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AbuHumaid said:
@Kaitou MaiTai voted Phraze too, you didn't count it


No, she voted late.
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AbuHumaid said:
@Kaitou MaiTai voted Phraze too, you didn't count it

Mine didn't count. Lol. Totally my bad.

Aug 20, 2017 3:14 PM

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Tbh, after wagonomics, I expect this to flip town.
No strong counterwagon, where mafia would setup theirs countercandiate for a lynch.

If it flips town, I'm actualy clearing Maitai and Tingle. No wolf would try to late vote a town wagon, if he didn't have to.

If it flips mafia, they would be suspected of trying to get town cred via jumping on the wagon.
Aug 20, 2017 3:18 PM

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You know Romeo will die if his Julietta is involved... 💔

Everyone was doing their best to play the game but following the rules was not easy. Trying to understand and play as other people is not a simple task and Phraze found out soon enough. She was not used to Grape's play style nor could she think of her lovely crazy theories that everyone in MS loves <3 But one thing was clear: If Ruu was involved in the game, a lynch would be unavoidable. After all, they are Romeo and Julietta, always trying to lynch each other...


@Phraze was...


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Mod Comments: there was a small error. This game is half reveal so from now on you will only know the alignment of the player that gets lynched or NK'd. We apologies for the errors in the vc also, won't happen again. Please remember to be kind to one another and follow the rules ~

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Aug 20, 2017 3:19 PM

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roz1roz said:
Tbh, after wagonomics, I expect this to flip town.
No strong counterwagon, where mafia would setup theirs countercandiate for a lynch.

If it flips town, I'm actualy clearing Maitai and Tingle. No wolf would try to late vote a town wagon, if he didn't have to.

If it flips mafia, they would be suspected of trying to get town cred via jumping on the wagon.
Phraze was actually the counter to the Claire train if we look back at the vote counts prior to the move to Phraze.

@Ruu and @Kaitou if at all possible can we get more frequent vote counts next phase please.
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Aug 20, 2017 3:20 PM
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Shit, we lost the cop
Aug 20, 2017 3:21 PM

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Aug 20, 2017 3:21 PM

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Blue is town or mafia? Someone fill me up on this?
Aug 20, 2017 3:22 PM

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roz1roz said:
Blue is town or mafia? Someone fill me up on this?


Read OP
Aug 20, 2017 3:23 PM

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Kaitou said:
roz1roz said:
Blue is town or mafia? Someone fill me up on this?


Read OP


I'm not yellow. Your argument is invalid.
Aug 20, 2017 3:24 PM

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OMG!!! That second ability....lol.
Phraze lied about her claim....wow. Wonder who logic is and if he is scum since that passive activated if logic gets lynched. I am assuming that means flavour logic and not the player btw.
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Aug 20, 2017 3:24 PM

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roz1roz said:
Kaitou said:


Read OP


I'm not yellow. Your argument is invalid.
uhm...
Aug 20, 2017 3:24 PM
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@Kaitou we can talk at night?
Aug 20, 2017 3:25 PM

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AbuHumaid said:
@Kaitou we can talk at night?
You should be backreading no? Are you caught up?
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Aug 20, 2017 3:26 PM

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so ermm.. this might mess up my meta for future reference. again :P was shortlived fun tho. ty for the game~
might not follow it much cuz busy

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logic340 said:
OMG!!! That second ability....lol.
Phraze lied about her claim....wow. Wonder who logic is and if he is scum since that passive activated if logic gets lynched. I am assuming that means flavour logic and not the player btw.
wow I just finally realised why you sometimes seemed to talk in third person.. i thought you were just a bit of a wacko ;) but you were talking about whoever could have the logic card. im dumb.
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logic340 said:
AbuHumaid said:
@Kaitou we can talk at night?
You should be backreading no? Are you caught up?
I'm out right now and on my phone, can't backread
Aug 20, 2017 3:28 PM
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Tingle said:
logic340 said:
OMG!!! That second ability....lol.
Phraze lied about her claim....wow. Wonder who logic is and if he is scum since that passive activated if logic gets lynched. I am assuming that means flavour logic and not the player btw.
wow I just finally realised why you sometimes seemed to talk in third person.. i thought you were just a bit of a wacko ;) but you were talking about whoever could have the logic card. im dumb.
he always talks about himself in third person too
Aug 20, 2017 3:29 PM

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AbuHumaid said:
Tingle said:
wow I just finally realised why you sometimes seemed to talk in third person.. i thought you were just a bit of a wacko ;) but you were talking about whoever could have the logic card. im dumb.
he always talks about himself in third person too
oh thats confusing
Aug 20, 2017 3:29 PM

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...Not to claim as PR during last minutes of phase. That's disappointing. We could have avoided this.
Aug 20, 2017 3:32 PM

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logic340 said:
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@Logic340 - Opinion about Phraze as it stands?
I wish she would talk about who she suspects instead of giving this weak defense. I'd rather she give her thoughts on the player base and with 5 votes 30 minutes to phase change it may be claim time?
5:30pm EST time stamp. I asked her with plenty of time to stop this outcome from happening. If town wont help one another we will never defeat the mafia.
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Aug 20, 2017 3:32 PM

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roz1roz said:
Kaitou said:


Read OP


I'm not yellow. Your argument is invalid.


I'm the host. My word is law.
Aug 20, 2017 3:34 PM

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I mean if she had just claimed cop, then everyone would have just pulled off her. Still a shitty turn of events. And I can like never be in these discussions cause of my work schedule and the phase change times
blinddate
she was never awake
even with her eyes wide open
never where she longed to be
and if you’d meet her
just know
you were on a
blind date with a dreamer
Aug 20, 2017 3:36 PM

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Sorry for all the trouble. I will edit the post now and yes, you will be getting more vc starting D2 @logic340
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roz1roz said:
Kaitou said:


Read OP


I'm not yellow. Your argument is invalid.
Yellow is a forbidden color around here it's annoying and hard to read.
Blue=Town
Orange=Independent
Red=Mafia
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Aug 20, 2017 3:40 PM

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@roz1roz I like how u we're one one of the last minute Snipes and u just cleared urself by stating that if she flipped town then all the vote snipers are inno. But if u aren't lying then ur independent so who knows. I'd personally rather look at the people in the middle, scum like to hide in the middle of a train.
blinddate
she was never awake
even with her eyes wide open
never where she longed to be
and if you’d meet her
just know
you were on a
blind date with a dreamer
Aug 20, 2017 3:42 PM

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Well back to work for 2 more hours.
blinddate
she was never awake
even with her eyes wide open
never where she longed to be
and if you’d meet her
just know
you were on a
blind date with a dreamer
Aug 20, 2017 3:54 PM

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lastwhisper31 said:
@roz1roz I like how u we're one one of the last minute Snipes and u just cleared urself by stating that if she flipped town then all the vote snipers are inno. But if u aren't lying then ur independent so who knows. I'd personally rather look at the people in the middle, scum like to hide in the middle of a train.


That wasn't an attempt to clear myself tbh.
More like an attempt to state something - if it's town and scum have no reason to hammer, why would they normaly do it? That would catch to much attention on them. As you say, if there was scum on the wagon there would be in midle of it instead.
Aug 20, 2017 3:56 PM

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@Kaitou - is it possible to have a vote count in wich votes are sorted via the order they appeared? Not random one like atm?
Aug 20, 2017 4:31 PM

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AAAAaaaaaaa... I hate when site deletes your long analysis of wagon, cause of internet lag.

Anyway, shorter and more chaotic version of it:
- Phraze's wagon had more traction then any earlier one, wich means that in earlier wagons there was a wolfs votes splited somewhere.
- On 1.2 we can see 3 vs 3 of logic vs Claire. It's quite likely that 1 of them is scum.
- Claire moving vote on Phraze is NAI, cause everyone would vote to save themself, regardless of aligment.
- Arrisu moved a vote together with a logic, from Claire's wagon to a Phraze's one. Possible scumteam trying to deload logic via creating even more tempting counterwagon (?)
- If we looked at Phrazes wagon, most likely partner for Claire if they were mafia would be aadono for literaly putting a nail in the Phrazes lynch, so it won't move back to Claire.

Sum up:
Claire vs logic - probably v/w wagon situation

Adding the possible scumteam:

logic + (possibly) Arrisu
vs
Claire + (possbily) Aadono
^ is probably a v/w situation
Aug 20, 2017 4:52 PM

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What ability? I only see her flipping as grapefruit..
Aug 20, 2017 5:16 PM

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@roz1roz - Um there's no nighttalk. so we should leave it as this.
Aug 20, 2017 5:16 PM
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@Kaitou IDK if you hid Phraze's ability on purpose because of some bastard stuff or not but if so then just ignore this comment
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I can't believe that I slept through phase change. But you guys seem to have trained onto Phraze anyway and my vote wouldn't have mattered.

Did his ability reveal after death or something? Cos I don't see anything but the way you guys post seems like it was revealed
Aug 20, 2017 5:21 PM

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Arrisu said:
@roz1roz - Um there's no nighttalk. so we should leave it as this.


Umm rules, section III says we may talk at night
Aug 20, 2017 5:23 PM
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to everyone who saw Phraze's abilities, don't reveal it. let's keep the pressure on mafia
Aug 20, 2017 5:24 PM
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though i'm not sure if a mafia saw it or not
Aug 20, 2017 5:28 PM

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AbuHumaid said:
to everyone who saw Phraze's abilities, don't reveal it. let's keep the pressure on mafia


Feelsbadman leaving me in the dark like this. I can work around it if it actually can hurt mafia but remember, if just one mafia knows, everyone knows.
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CorruptedPurity said:
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to everyone who saw Phraze's abilities, don't reveal it. let's keep the pressure on mafia


Feelsbadman leaving me in the dark like this. I can work around it if it actually can hurt mafia but remember, if just one mafia knows, everyone knows.
Now that I think about it around half the players were present at the time and as you said, one mafia knows their teammates know and the more info town has the more chance to catch scum so I'll tell

Phraze's ability No. 1 was normal sane cop, investigates one every night
the other was something like if she gets logic (i think they mean the role not the player) lynched she'll get some passive ability that i forgot what it was

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@CorruptedPurity - My bad. I guess I shouldn't have skimmed the rules. x)
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Okay I found time for phase change and I am willing to work alongside my biggest town reads to get a lynch through (within reasons of my own reads of course.)

@Coelestin - Here is my reads list for D1. This goes for anybody else interested.

Town
- Logic: Logic is being a genuine town by trying to get everyone to work together. He pressures, feels frustration when things aren't going as planned (which is typical for town) and provides wonderful insight. I like what he offers at the table.
- Coelestin: I feel confident enough in my read on Chi to be able to tell when she is town. Also, her reads list made sense to me and I agree with much of her perspective.
- CorruptedPurity: Despite the rough beginning, he is actively questioning other players. I leave him in town as of D1 but I'd like to personally reevaluate my read on his the next day phase.

Slight Town
- aa-dono: Correct me if I am wrong but she stayed in RVS for quite a while before moving on with her vote. Which hasn't been switched yet (@Ruu @Kaitou). Otherwise, I feel a Dono town vibe from. I am mostly meta reading her at this point in time.
- Mishukax: I haven't played with this player much but again, I like his perceptive on the game thus far.
- Tingle: Tingle isn't a player that typically posts often but what she has posted is genuine town effort. I'd like to see more of her thoughts.

Neutral
- LastWhisper31: I'll be honest, I didn't focus much on him since one of my town reads was pushing him so much. Therefore I did not deeply analyse his posts. Needs to be reevaluated.
- Labs: Can't read Lamby. I need time. He's like an abstract painting.
- Suzune: It was her birthday and so she couldn't be too active. I like what she posted thus far but it isn't enough to give me any type of read on her.
- AbuHumaid: Him stating he is scum is null. I don't know his meta and I feel as though he lacks any real pressuring.

Scummy Scums
- Phraze: Comes in half way through D1 and gives a half-ass reason for a vote. At this point, he/she should have had more insight from everything that happened. Not to mention he doesn't bother pressuring fellow players and simply comments. Lazy scum is lazy.
- Claire: Less scummy than before but I'm not willing to let her go for her early phase behaviour. I want to reevaluate her next phase, since I tend to have scum reads on town Claire.
- roz1roz: Claims TPR and doesn't help town at all.
- MaiTai: Similar behaviour to Phraze. Doesn't seem interested in scumhunting. Barely bothers to pressure.

Now with this information, I am willing to lynch any player within my scum reads alongside town.

Neutrals can be convinced but may require some hard convincing to do so.

So Town, who will we be lynching today?



your reasons for scum reading Phraze are weak, joining the game late isn't scummy I don't even know why you mentioned that it's like you're looking for any reason to suspect her, you're calling her out for giving a "half-ass" reason to vote yet your reasons aren't any better, Laziness isn't scummy wtf? I'm lazy as any alignment and I'm not even hiding it, does that mean i'm scum? if so why don't you pressure me since I lack real pressure too?
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aa-dono said:
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so you're netrual on Phraze but don't mind lynching her?
Yes
why did just go with the flow instead of pressuring and voting the one you're actually suspecting? Phraze had already enough votes. Feels scummy
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roz1roz said:
AAAAaaaaaaa... I hate when site deletes your long analysis of wagon, cause of internet lag.

Anyway, shorter and more chaotic version of it:
- Phraze's wagon had more traction then any earlier one, wich means that in earlier wagons there was a wolfs votes splited somewhere.
- On 1.2 we can see 3 vs 3 of logic vs Claire. It's quite likely that 1 of them is scum.
- Claire moving vote on Phraze is NAI, cause everyone would vote to save themself, regardless of aligment.
- Arrisu moved a vote together with a logic, from Claire's wagon to a Phraze's one. Possible scumteam trying to deload logic via creating even more tempting counterwagon (?)
- If we looked at Phrazes wagon, most likely partner for Claire if they were mafia would be aadono for literaly putting a nail in the Phrazes lynch, so it won't move back to Claire.

Sum up:
Claire vs logic - probably v/w wagon situation

Adding the possible scumteam:

logic + (possibly) Arrisu
vs
Claire + (possbily) Aadono
^ is probably a v/w situation
why did you single out vote count 1.2 when 1.3 had whisper leading with three votes? Claire and I were at 2 each.
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@aa-dono @Labs @Tingle @Abuhumaid @Suzune-chan

How bout lynching Phraze guys? What's your opinion on that? Do you have any better options?
so you're asking people to follow you to cover the fact that you were one of the last voters? hmm
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AbuHumaid said:
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@aa-dono @Labs @Tingle @Abuhumaid @Suzune-chan

How bout lynching Phraze guys? What's your opinion on that? Do you have any better options?
so you're asking people to follow you to cover the fact that you were one of the last voters? hmm
that was like a good 45 minutes before phase change? I was actually the last to vote phraze at that point. We also have an RVS vote from Mishu that never moved which should be explained as well.
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@roz1roz is your D1 play what we can expect to see from you helping town as things progress?
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more points for town Abu here imo. I'll be looking more into arrisu as well but the reason I think Phraze showing up late was mentioned is because she mentioned mishu and labs going under the radar due to their activity (which she then lied about while talking with me). Phraze got herself hung I wouldn't be surprised if mafia didn't touch that train after the first three votes. Those are the votes I'm most interested in.
Mishu - RVS
Claire - need to look into bit too early to call a self preservation vote the way roz is.
Arrisu - well documented, honestly feels like a town lucian push to me.
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roz1roz said:
Tbh, after wagonomics, I expect this to flip town.
No strong counterwagon, where mafia would setup theirs countercandiate for a lynch.

If it flips town, I'm actualy clearing Maitai and Tingle. No wolf would try to late vote a town wagon, if he didn't have to.

If it flips mafia, they would be suspected of trying to get town cred via jumping on the wagon.
lost kitty mafia to mafia who did just this with their teammate also on the train early. Speaking from experience the bolded is not a given.
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lastwhisper31 said:
Well back to work for 2 more hours.
are you back?
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