 Unofficial 1.4 Claire: Arrisu, Abu, Suzune-chan Mishukax: Labs, aa-dono Phraze: Mishukax, Claire lastwhisper: Coelestin roz1roz: logic340 Arrisu: Phraze Not voting: Tingle, CorruptivePurity, Maitai, roz1roz, lastwhisper Mod comments: I think this one is actually correct ~ Edit: corrected Phaze's and Suzune's votes |
logic340Aug 20, 2017 1:46 PM
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| If Phraze flips scum then I'll be willing to change my read on Claire, considering she is already on that train. Vote Lynch: Phraze |
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Phraze said: I really don't even know where to begin with you where is my vote right now? Who did I say I think we should vote if we can't come to a consensus on who we think might be a good scum Lynch today? All these questions you've asked me have already been answered in the thread and I really don't think it matters what my first second and third choice are as I've listed all three of them as choices. I am equally willing to Lynch all of you how about that?@logic340 What is the scum intent that you say you see? Please elaborate for us. Also your suspicions seem a little OMGUS timing wise. Common theme in games I've been in lately. I alrdy explained it. for u to suggest looking into me more is the same as looking for another Last to debate with. look for someone substantial to interrogate pls, not someone who's 'hard to read'. for u to suggest that is scummy in itself, moreso when u admitted that u can't understand me easily. why not go for the better targets in ur PoE, that u can easily understand?Willing to lynch: ok. what are the reasons for each? is Last ur 1st choice or 2nd? are u still sure about Last after the debate, or just going with the next easiest target in ur lynch pool? actually, where do I rank in this lol. shouldn't u be going after ur first choice target? lack of conviction, which u also claim to have, is kinda vague with all this infoRoz/Phraze/whisper |
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Arrisu said: Well Mishu's vote is RVS and I am kind of neutral on Claire, a Phraze scum flip would go a long way to making me feel better about Claire. I am down if nothing else it will be interesting to see how votes move over the next hour and a half. logic340 said: If we cannot come to a consensus of sorts on a scum lynch in the next two hours I suggest we lynch claimed tpr. A big part of my reasoning is they claim they want to help town but I'm just not seeing that from them. I don't think the current vote count is conducive to catching scum. Too many min voters and to many one vote trains. Willing to lynch: Roz/Phraze/whisper Yee boi~ Let's lynch Phraze. He's the scummiest smelling scum right now. Unvote: Vote: Phraze @Phraze in a world where you and I are both town where should we be lynching at today? |
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| @logic340 Labs is never here on weekends so that is nothing new. I am surprised we got as much as we did Friday before he left. We have that much to go over which is more than we have from you/roz/MaiTai have done to this point. I see. how much should we post to count as having enough to go over? would be nasty if we're gonna be lynched for inactivity since I'm trying my best yknowMishukax I will need to look into more. I remember one post standing out as townie to me (I believe I quoted it). Other than that he doesn't leave much of an impression and I am not seeing the usual big early play from him which is NAI anyway. Mishu style is probs more lurky as mafia. and he's pretty lurky atm. not sure if I will depend on 1 townie post to clear him. @Arrisu - Phraze: Comes in half way through D1 and gives a half-ass reason for a vote. At this point, he/she should have had more insight from everything that happened. Not to mention he doesn't bother pressuring fellow players and simply comments. Lazy scum is lazy. well yeah I'm a halfassed player. that's a very good reason pfft. but srsly if u wanna see pressure, I still like my vote on uYee boi~ for being halfassed but still talking. is mafia that stupid?Let's lynch Phraze. He's the scummiest smelling scum right now. |
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| @aa-dono @Labs @Tingle @Abuhumaid @Suzune-chan How bout lynching Phraze guys? What's your opinion on that? Do you have any better options? |
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| I don't think victimized is the right word choice there but I guess I get what you are getting at here. Is there anything else you can say about me that doesn't have to do with emotion or meta? Why should we be lynching Claire today? I have moved more to neutral as I find her focus on CP to be a little to blatant for scum? |
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| @logic340 @Phraze in a world where you and I are both town where should we be lynching at today? Last improved and explained things to me, so I'm inclined to give him the benefit of doubt. still suspicious of Arrisu and Chi, besides Mishukax for dark horse. Arrisu's recent readlist covered Chi and Mishu, so it hasn't changed my opinion.which means: Arrisu/Coelestin/Mihukax |
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Phraze said: First of all my vote is not related to your activity so please do not use that as an excuse or reason. I am pretty sure that arri's vote isn't due to you being inactive either. But it's interesting that you would talk about two players activity when you missed half the phase yourself? What are your thoughts on the more active players?@logic340 Labs is never here on weekends so that is nothing new. I am surprised we got as much as we did Friday before he left. We have that much to go over which is more than we have from you/roz/MaiTai have done to this point. I see. how much should we post to count as having enough to go over? would be nasty if we're gonna be lynched for inactivity since I'm trying my best yknowMishukax I will need to look into more. I remember one post standing out as townie to me (I believe I quoted it). Other than that he doesn't leave much of an impression and I am not seeing the usual big early play from him which is NAI anyway. Mishu style is probs more lurky as mafia. and he's pretty lurky atm. not sure if I will depend on 1 townie post to clear him. @Arrisu - Phraze: Comes in half way through D1 and gives a half-ass reason for a vote. At this point, he/she should have had more insight from everything that happened. Not to mention he doesn't bother pressuring fellow players and simply comments. Lazy scum is lazy. well yeah I'm a halfassed player. that's a very good reason pfft. but srsly if u wanna see pressure, I still like my vote on uYee boi~ for being halfassed but still talking. is mafia that stupid?Let's lynch Phraze. He's the scummiest smelling scum right now. That is one townie post imo, not sure what yours is. You are saying you are against meta yet you are reading Mishu based of Meta while not actually talking about the content of his posts? |
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Phraze said: @logic340 @Phraze in a world where you and I are both town where should we be lynching at today? Last improved and explained things to me, so I'm inclined to give him the benefit of doubt. still suspicious of Arrisu and Chi, besides Mishukax for dark horse. Arrisu's recent readlist covered Chi and Mishu, so it hasn't changed my opinion.which means: Arrisu/Coelestin/Mihukax Dang son. You got the whole scum team down in D1? |
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Arrisu said: Nope. Sorry, currently occupied ><@aa-dono @Labs @Tingle @Abuhumaid @Suzune-chan How bout lynching Phraze guys? What's your opinion on that? Do you have any better options? My vote on Mishu is pressure. I don't read phraze as either town or scum, so I don't have any objection to the lynch. So unless the vote is on someone I have townlean on, I won't object. |
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aa-dono said: Arrisu said: Nope. Sorry, currently occupied ><@aa-dono @Labs @Tingle @Abuhumaid @Suzune-chan How bout lynching Phraze guys? What's your opinion on that? Do you have any better options? My vote on Mishu is pressure. I don't read phraze as either town or scum, so I don't have any objection to the lynch. So unless the vote is on someone I have townlean on, I won't object. So you're joining us or not? |
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Arrisu said: At Vote Count 1.2 Labs was on there with Phraze, Phraze has moved to you and dono has since moved on. Suzune has since moved to Claire putting her back at three before your move. I don't like the small train on Mishukax. I feel like there are so many more better candidates for today's lynch. Seems odd. @Logic340 - Do you recall the mini-train forming before or after the mini-train on Claire? |
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Unofficial 1.5 Claire: Abu, Suzune-chan Mishukax: Labs, aa-dono Phraze: Mishukax, Claire, Arrisu, Logic lastwhisper: Coelestin Arrisu: Phraze Labs: lastwhisper Not voting: Tingle, CorruptivePurity, Maitai, roz1roz, Mod comments: I think this one is actually correct ~ |
logic340Aug 20, 2017 1:52 PM
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| Vote: Phraze I guess I can join. I'm not sure I'll be here for phase change. Even if I do, I'll probably just lurk and observe votes. |
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| Wait, this is majority lynch or plurality? |
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AbuHumaid said: What are your thoughts on Phraze and her possible lynch today? Why is Clarie a better option?aa-dono said: so you're netrual on Phraze but don't mind lynching her? Vote: Phraze I guess I can join. I'm not sure I'll be here for phase change. Even if I do, I'll probably just lurk and observe votes. |
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aa-dono said: Majority and PluralityWait, this is majority lynch or plurality? ✥ This game uses plurality and mayority lynch systems. |
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AbuHumaid said: Yesaa-dono said: so you're netrual on Phraze but don't mind lynching her? Vote: Phraze I guess I can join. I'm not sure I'll be here for phase change. Even if I do, I'll probably just lurk and observe votes. |
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logic340 said: MaiTai said: this is the second time that I've seen you basically say that I'm scum with very little reasoning or anything of your own thought to support it. Why don't you go ahead and do that for us and also place a vote since you have a scum read.I don't have meta to go off of, but I am not thoroughly convinced about logic, and I still get a slight scum vibe, especially with the victimizing. That's just me. I just generally think emotionally charged posts are an out...it's either NAI or scum. I have another reason, but I'd rather not say, tbh. I was just saying to some of the others who found the emotion town aligned. |
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MaiTai said: I just generally think emotionally charged posts are an out...it's either NAI or scum. I have another reason, but I'd rather not say, tbh. I was just saying to some of the others who found the emotion town aligned. This is rather backwards. Emotionally charged posts are usually a sign of frustrated/confused town rather than mafia. The only time mafia get really emotionally charged is during their defensive states. Otherwise why would they care who gets lynched as long as it isn't their team? |
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logic340 said: If my math is still good at this hour, the 7th person should be at L-1. Since the 8th is hammer.aa-dono said: Majority and PluralityWait, this is majority lynch or plurality? ✥ This game uses plurality and mayority lynch systems. |
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MaiTai said: it's a text it really doesn't have a lot of emotion to it people add the emotion they want and then say the logic is being emotional. Outside of that what is there from this game that would have you say that I'm scum? What about any of the other players in the game and what do you think of the current Lynch train on Phraze being at 5 voteslogic340 said: this is the second time that I've seen you basically say that I'm scum with very little reasoning or anything of your own thought to support it. Why don't you go ahead and do that for us and also place a vote since you have a scum read. I just generally think emotionally charged posts are an out...it's either NAI or scum. I have another reason, but I'd rather not say, tbh. I was just saying to some of the others who found the emotion town aligned. |
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Arrisu said: ehhh but I'm always salty :o@Phraze - Lol. I'm glad you like your vote on me scum, you're sounding salty right now. Give me your elaboration on voting against me? I recall your reasoning for your vote was lackluster. I don't like the fact ur 2nding opinions, u also had 'no strong opinion' but decided to get out of rvs onto Claire. isn't that contradictory? if not contradictory, it's sheeping. I at least got out of rvs with a goal in mind. @logic340 First of all my vote is not related to your activity so please do not use that as an excuse or reason. I am pretty sure that arri's vote isn't due to you being inactive either. But it's interesting that you would talk about two players activity when you missed half the phase yourself? What are your thoughts on the more active players? 1. I never talked about anyone's activity other than ask how active I(and the other inactive u say) should be.That is one townie post imo, not sure what yours is. You are saying you are against meta yet you are reading Mishu based of Meta while not actually talking about the content of his posts? 2. ik I missed the early half. that is why I never used the excuse of inactivity. if anything, Arrisu is wanting me lynched over the fact I haven't been active, which I don't agree with. 3. I can't tell who are the active players atm but it seems u are. ur pretty town so far 4. I would love to quote my post from the old games where I mentioned how I do and don't use metareads. not sure if I remember how to explain it but..nope, not using meta on Mish |
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aa-dono said: logic340 said: If my math is still good at this hour, the 7th person should be at L-1. Since the 8th is hammer.Majority and Plurality You are correct. GG for your math skills. Dono, who'd you lynch if it wasn't phraze? |
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Arrisu said: MaiTai said: I just generally think emotionally charged posts are an out...it's either NAI or scum. I have another reason, but I'd rather not say, tbh. I was just saying to some of the others who found the emotion town aligned. This is rather backwards. Emotionally charged posts are usually a sign of frustrated/confused town rather than mafia. The only time mafia get really emotionally charged is during their defensive states. Otherwise why would they care who gets lynched as long as it isn't their team? Is it really unheard of for mafia to use emotion as a tool? Not saying logic is doing that specifically here, but that can't be unheard of. |
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MaiTai said: Is it really unheard of for mafia to use emotion as a tool? Not saying logic is doing that specifically here, but that can't be unheard of. Never said it was unheard of. They would just use it in a different way then I see Logic using it. Btw who do you want to lynch Mai? |
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Arrisu said: I beg to digress. mafia will fight against a lynch just the same as town. pushing mafia or town into a trapped situation will make them as equally likely to be emotional, the only difference is spilling the beans if ur mafia.MaiTai said: I just generally think emotionally charged posts are an out...it's either NAI or scum. I have another reason, but I'd rather not say, tbh. I was just saying to some of the others who found the emotion town aligned. This is rather backwards. Emotionally charged posts are usually a sign of frustrated/confused town rather than mafia. The only time mafia get really emotionally charged is during their defensive states. Otherwise why would they care who gets lynched as long as it isn't their team? |
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Arrisu said: Claire/logic/(maybe lastwhisper)aa-dono said: If my math is still good at this hour, the 7th person should be at L-1. Since the 8th is hammer. You are correct. GG for your math skills. Dono, who'd you lynch if it wasn't phraze? |
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Phraze said: if you didn't bring up activity what is this?Arrisu said: ehhh but I'm always salty :o@Phraze - Lol. I'm glad you like your vote on me scum, you're sounding salty right now. Give me your elaboration on voting against me? I recall your reasoning for your vote was lackluster. I don't like the fact ur 2nding opinions, u also had 'no strong opinion' but decided to get out of rvs onto Claire. isn't that contradictory? if not contradictory, it's sheeping. I at least got out of rvs with a goal in mind. @logic340 First of all my vote is not related to your activity so please do not use that as an excuse or reason. I am pretty sure that arri's vote isn't due to you being inactive either. But it's interesting that you would talk about two players activity when you missed half the phase yourself? What are your thoughts on the more active players? 1. I never talked about anyone's activity other than ask how active I(and the other inactive u say) should be.That is one townie post imo, not sure what yours is. You are saying you are against meta yet you are reading Mishu based of Meta while not actually talking about the content of his posts? 2. ik I missed the early half. that is why I never used the excuse of inactivity. if anything, Arrisu is wanting me lynched over the fact I haven't been active, which I don't agree with. 3. I can't tell who are the active players atm but it seems u are. ur pretty town so far 4. I would love to quote my post from the old games where I mentioned how I do and don't use metareads. not sure if I remember how to explain it but..nope, not using meta on Mish Phraze said: so erm... I feel like Mishukax and Labs dropped off the radar. where the fudge is Mish when his vote is on me too. what's the point of voting me when his only question is if I will change my rvs vote? I'll definitely switch back to that if he's rly that off radar Labs give me headaches I'm pretty town so far seems to contradict you saying you could see the scum intent behind my read and vote on you. Can you reconcile those two statements for me please? If your not using meta on Mishu then what are you using to gauge him or sort him out? |
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Phraze said: What does this have to do with the player in question and reads on them? If nothing then what is the purpose of this? Also who should we be lynching? I am not a fan of your pre-flip association of arri/coel let's do this one persona at a time. Arrisu said: I beg to digress. mafia will fight against a lynch just the same as town. pushing mafia or town into a trapped situation will make them as equally likely to be emotional, the only difference is spilling the beans if ur mafia.This is rather backwards. Emotionally charged posts are usually a sign of frustrated/confused town rather than mafia. The only time mafia get really emotionally charged is during their defensive states. Otherwise why would they care who gets lynched as long as it isn't their team? |
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Phraze said: I beg to digress. mafia will fight against a lynch just the same as town. pushing mafia or town into a trapped situation will make them as equally likely to be emotional, the only difference is spilling the beans if ur mafia. I don't recall talking about a lynch. I'm speaking about emotionally charged posts. Different subjects. |
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Arrisu said: if u refer to what I posted(which idk where) u mentioned having no strong opinions on anyone, yet u voted Claire few posts before. I'm only giving the message to u in ur terms. I won't be surprised if ur surprised, since u might as well be scum waiting for me to flip. preparing for an aftermath of a mistake is wanting it to happen, which is very suspicious@Phraze - Clearly you didn't read the first half of D1 for assuming I had no strong opinion about Claire. I can't wait to see your flip. Either way a town not bothering to read the phase is rather antitown. Though I would be very surprised if you'd flip town. |
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Phraze said: 2. ik I missed the early half. that is why I never used the excuse of inactivity. if anything, Arrisu is wanting me lynched over the fact I haven't been active, which I don't agree with. Activity is not an indicator. There is a difference between a lack of activity and a lack of scumhunting. This is what you did: 1. Found a target D1. 2. Focus on this said target and make up some ambiguous reason for voting against them despite not analysing the first half of the phase. 3. Voted against them. 4. Didn't bother looking at other players or pressuring them. Lol tbf, you didn't even try and pressure me with your vote. You left it at that. Where is the pressuring? Where are the questions? You only began questioning me after I targeted you. |
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logic340 said: AbuHumaid said: @roz1roz this is one of those posts that stands out to me. While it could come from either alignment it feels more like town abu to me. He isn't this brash as scum as he wants to lay a little bit lower. One day this type of read my come to bite me but I don't feel today is that day. what else could "Best Town" mean? even if he got a player that's known for being "best town". I never said it's 1000% guaranteed he's town what i'm saying is we should keep him for later and not waste too much time thinking about this. and you didn't answer my question btw Tbh I 100% agree with Abu here. Carrying about "Best town" and thinking of l.ynching it d1 is... waste of a time. |
Arrisu said: I AM talking about emotionally charged posts. saying mafia won't be emotional simply cuz they have a team is false information.Phraze said: I beg to digress. mafia will fight against a lynch just the same as town. pushing mafia or town into a trapped situation will make them as equally likely to be emotional, the only difference is spilling the beans if ur mafia. I don't recall talking about a lynch. I'm speaking about emotionally charged posts. Different subjects. |
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Arrisu said: 1. in what way have I not been scumhunting?Phraze said: 2. ik I missed the early half. that is why I never used the excuse of inactivity. if anything, Arrisu is wanting me lynched over the fact I haven't been active, which I don't agree with. Activity is not an indicator. There is a difference between a lack of activity and a lack of scumhunting. This is what you did: 1. Found a target D1. 2. Focus on this said target and make up some ambiguous reason for voting against them despite not analysing the first half of the phase. 3. Voted against them. 4. Didn't bother looking at other players or pressuring them. Lol tbf, you didn't even try and pressure me with your vote. You left it at that. Where is the pressuring? Where are the questions? You only began questioning me after I targeted you. 2. my reasons for voting u aren't as ambiguous as u claim 3. expected 4. I did look into Last before u. since he proved deserving of doubt, I moved on to u. 5. I see my vote on u is well placed as ur being very irrational to the pressure, even talking about 'if Phraze were to flip town' |
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Phraze said: I bolded #4 could you actually explain it for me? I don't think you have really explained why you feel whisper is worth leaving for another day? Is it due to reading psychopass mafia? did you read any of his scum games as well before making this decision?Arrisu said: 1. in what way have I not been scumhunting?Activity is not an indicator. There is a difference between a lack of activity and a lack of scumhunting. This is what you did: 1. Found a target D1. 2. Focus on this said target and make up some ambiguous reason for voting against them despite not analysing the first half of the phase. 3. Voted against them. 4. Didn't bother looking at other players or pressuring them. Lol tbf, you didn't even try and pressure me with your vote. You left it at that. Where is the pressuring? Where are the questions? You only began questioning me after I targeted you. 2. my reasons for voting u aren't as ambiguous as u claim 3. expected 4. I did look into Last before u. since he proved deserving of doubt, I moved on to u. 5. I see my vote on u is well placed as ur being very irrational to the pressure, even talking about 'if Phraze were to flip town' |
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Arrisu said: MaiTai said: Is it really unheard of for mafia to use emotion as a tool? Not saying logic is doing that specifically here, but that can't be unheard of. Never said it was unheard of. They would just use it in a different way then I see Logic using it. Btw who do you want to lynch Mai? Very well. My thoughts on it are unchanged. I don't think that's enough to warrant a vote on Logic, it was simply my 2 cents on the matter. Beyond that, I really would be just guessing...I'm not really good at picking out stuff from Day 1. I was awaiting some info, but Idk if I'll get it in time, but I suppose Labs and Last both stick out to me. |
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logic340 said: vvvI wish she would talk about who she suspects instead of giving this weak defense. I'd rather she give her thoughts on the player base and with 5 votes 30 minutes to phase change it may be claim time? Phraze said: @logic340 @Phraze in a world where you and I are both town where should we be lynching at today? Last improved and explained things to me, so I'm inclined to give him the benefit of doubt. still suspicious of Arrisu and Chi, besides Mishukax for dark horse. Arrisu's recent readlist covered Chi and Mishu, so it hasn't changed my opinion.which means: Arrisu/Coelestin/Mihukax |
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| @Phraze - No. You have ambigous reasons for all three of your scum reads. As Logic stated, you said it was because of their lack of activity. As for me, you clearly didn't read D1 phase if you think I was sheeping. Ask anybody else in the game if I was sheeping. They'll say no. As for your fifth point, I see scum grasping as any straws to manipulate what I have said. Yes, you might flip town. My reads (though accurate oftentimes) are not 100% accurate. Do I think you are town? Absolutely not else I would not have moved my vote off of Claire. If I wanted to right now, I could make sure you'd get hammered into lynch lock. But I am giving you a chance. Now, go and find that post where I sheep. Do it. I dare you. |
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