Boku no Hero Academia 2nd Season Episode 16 Discussion

TJHooker said:


What's the point of of throwing that small insult? I'm obviously paying attention. My point is that as Todorok matures hei should eventually place some blame on his mother. She was going through some horrible stuff, but there's never any excuse or justification for putting your innocent child through intense and permanent physical and mental trauma. His father was really in the wrong and she was also really in the wrong. She selfishly disowned her own child because he shared a feature of a man she despised. A truly despicable decision. Her and Todoroki should be haunted by her disgusting mistakes for the rest of their lives. Are you telling me that if some bullies physically attack and scar an alumni he has the justification to shoot up the school? Of course not.

Temujin26S said:
Absolutely agree I said something like this when they showed Todoroki's backstory ,alot of the time they always play the sympathy card even when women do despicable things and can be forgiven. Men on other hand are monsters have take full responsibility for their actions and there is no forgiveness.

Temujin26S said:



Absolutely agree I said something like this when they showed Todoroki's backstory ,alot of the time they always play the sympathy card even when women do despicable things and can be forgiven. Men on other hand are monsters have take full responsibility for their actions and there is no forgiveness.

GrowingLore said:
Really good and really intense episode.
I was a little disappointed by Stain's quirk. Its pretty cool here, but it does pale in comparison to other paralyzing super powers. Thankfully for a guy who only has one super power Stain has some surprisingly strong durability, coordination, and agility (But its anime so why question it).

ReaperCreeper said:
Also I imagine Handface just wants to cause some destruction for luls.

Once the night is over, the world will have forgotten about you, Hero Killer.

CrazyMerlyn said:


While facepalm is always up for destruction for lulz, he actually has a goal here. He mentions that in the episode.

Hero killer is trying to improve heroes by making a name for himself as an executioner, like Light Yagami. Facepalm doesn't like him, so he is creating an even bigger disaster diverting all the attention from Hero Killer to himself.
It's a childish tantrum where he is trying to break the other kid's toy because he wouldn't play with him.

Jaecp said:


Call it whatever you want unless you want to call it malicious, because it was not. She had a mental breakdown. Todoroki was looking at it from a childs perspective, but for all we know she actually needed to go to a mental hospital because, you know, she did just permanently scar her child because of her madness.

"Mom, I'm going crazy. I can't take it any more. Every day, the children seem to become more and more like him. Shoto.. That childs left side looks very unsightly to me. I can't raise him anymore. I feel like I shouldn't.

Then young Todoroki interupts, the tea boils over, and if you go to 16:27 here http://www.crunchyroll.com/my-hero-academia/episode-23-shoto-todoroki-origin-733235 you will see some of the craziest crazy eyes you can imagine.

Remember that Todoroki is the youngest, obviously, and that he's the fourth child. This women has spent years bearing children for a douchebag who terrifies her and had a psychotic break.

What son wouldn't forgive a mother something like that when those were the circumstances?

TheEnhancedExe said:

No, actually he sent his location to all of his contacts. Todoroki just happened to be in Hosu as well because Endeavor wanted to go after the Hero Killer. However then the Noumus appeared and Endeavor ended up dealing with them as well.
Plus, Gran Torino doesn't seem to have a mobile, so he couldn't send him his location.

DeadeyeReViVal said:


First paragraph: We didn't see Grand Torino use his mobile phone, so obviously he doesn't have it ffs, do you have memory? Answer: No.

Second paragraph: So as Shoto who is type O........

Third paragraph: Well of course Iida is looking for a vengeance but wut? A villain? (I'm not pretending like I don't know but you're pretending like you do know a lot.)

Jaecp said:


But did it Plus Ultra?

Abyhape said:

I see. it all make sense if he sent to all of his contacts. we don't really know if GT don't have a mobile or not, there's no official statement regarding that, right?



first: "obvious he doesn't have it"? do we have a exact statement regarding that from a trusted source, or it's just your assumption? if you can't confirm that, then it is also obvious that everyone does have a mobile phone, ffs.

third: isn't it obvious? Stain directly mention it to Iida himself, saying that Iida should reflect on himself, he shouldn't use his power for himself, but to save others, and Stain also saying being taken by the hatred is the furthest from what a hero should be (in other words, a villain). it even mentioned twice, at the beginning of fight (before Deku comes), and after Todoroki flashback. so, who's that don't have a memory now? me or you?

GrowingLore said:
Really good and really intense episode.

Its awesome to see two characters who barely exchanged a sentence last season suddenly come running to each others aid, ready to team up no questions asked.

The fight choreography was also a lot of fun though sometimes ridiculously exaggerated. Deku making use of the environment by jumping from wall to wall and delivering powerful punches was awesome.

I was a little disappointed by Stain's quirk. Its pretty cool here, but it does pale in comparison to other paralyzing super powers. Thankfully for a guy who only has one super power Stain has some surprisingly strong durability, coordination, and agility (But its anime so why question it).

Cant wait to see what Iida's character does next episode.

0x5809 said:
That animation quality drop tho...

Hope it doesn't stay like this till the end.

TJHooker said:
Some bullies torment a fellow student for years. You are also bullied by the same people. He decides to shoot up the school. You get hit by a bullet and are permanently paralyzed. You understand he was going through time in his life, but you also know what he did was awful and unforgivable. My point is that Todoroki should develop into a character that realizes his mother isn't a saint.

DeadeyeReViVal said:


First paragraph: We didn't see Grand Torino use his mobile phone, so obviously he doesn't have it ffs, do you have memory? Answer: No.

Second paragraph: So as Shoto who is type O........

Third paragraph: Well of course Iida is looking for a vengeance but wut? A villain? (I'm not pretending like I don't know but you're pretending like you do know a lot.)

Abyhape said:


first: "obvious he doesn't have it"? do we have a exact statement regarding that from a trusted source, or it's just your assumption? if you can't confirm that, then it is also obvious that everyone does have a mobile phone, ffs.

third: isn't it obvious? Stain directly mention it to Iida himself, saying that Iida should reflect on himself, he shouldn't use his power for himself, but to save others, and Stain also saying being taken by the hatred is the furthest from what a hero should be (in other words, a villain). it even mentioned twice, at the beginning of fight (before Deku comes), and after Todoroki flashback. so, who's that don't have a memory now? me or you?

swordstriker21 said:


Like I said, Todoroki's mother became mentally disturbed when the the incident with Todo happened. Endeavor is the root cause of said mental disability and is made more guilty by the fact that he knew full well what he was doing (physical/mental abuse) but didn't give a sh*t anyway. Todo's mother just couldn't take it anymore to the point of having a psychotic breakdown. Does that really justify condemnation?

She's as much of a victim as Todo is since her entire purpose for years of her married life was to be a breeding machine for Mr. No. 2 Hero in order to produce a suitable offspring who could possibly surpass Allmight.

Temujin26S said:



Absolutely agree I said something like this when they showed Todoroki's backstory ,alot of the time they always play the sympathy card even when women do despicable things and can be forgiven. Men on other hand are monsters have take full responsibility for their actions and there is no forgiveness.

Touka__Kirishima said:
Iida's getting his movement back, what comes next should be exciting.

What I still don't get is why the Nomus were deployed. They main goal was to destroy Stain but they literally have been doing everything except that.

TJHooker said:

Some bullies torment a fellow student for years. You are also bullied by the same people. He decides to shoot up the school. You get hit by a bullet and are permanently paralyzed. You understand he was going through time in his life, but you also know what he did was awful and unforgivable. My point is that Todoroki should develop into a character that realizes his mother isn't a saint.

Temujin26S said:

Nice ad hominem I explained why but seems you can't get it through your skull so now throwing burning hot water on a child is acceptable because of a breakdown your clearly retarded and an idiot. It was partly hatred from her side due him supposedly becoming like Endeavor if not she would have never stated that he was becoming more like Endeavor.

Rasco said:
Damn Iliday or whateves really is fragile. Was thinking he would have a more rational brain.

DeadeyeReViVal said:
Directing to someone who need them to harm themselves, which you didn't propose to but the lack of purpose of you're trying to recap from others. Saying "Who's that don't have a memory now? me or you?", is sort of stupid. You knew I was talking to you since you responded to me very lately, you think I don't have good memory to start with. Actually, we all have a memory now. You're just neutral, which it's fine who you're suppose to be. But, to simply put this. As you're trying to explain in a paragraphs, I had sense that it's a bit too short to just write another paragraph. So what just happened to me recently? Why am I so calm? After episode 16 were released, I had so much sugar from the fight scene to the end while I watched it. After I came to this discussion, and I read yours. I immediately didn't think carefully and just proceed it.

Votbear said:

You forgot the part where todoroki's mom isn't a random fellow bully. She was his only proper parent, the only one who actually loved him throughout his childhood and helped him go through the abuse from his dad. You also forgot that the damage she gave him was only a burn, caused by an accident from a lapse of judgment, not a meticulously planned revenge shooting.

Abyhape said:

really?
first, you said that "do you have a memory? answers: no" to me, which I am consider a small insult. do i need to quote your post?

and now you said "you think I don't have good memory to start with", isn't it you who said that I don't have a memory? who exactly the victim here? don't reverse the role.

TJHooker said:


You misunderstood. The bullies represent Endevour, the victim of the bullying that shoots up the school represents the mother, and you represent Shoto. The analogy is very comparable. In both situations a victim is tormented into permanently scarring innocent people. School shooting don't have to be meticulously planned. It can be as simple as bringing a parents weapon to school the next day. How can you continue to downplay her crime? She literally mentally destroyed her son by disowning him (her being the only person in the world he trusted), realized what she had done, and decided to fix it by restraining him and pouring scorching water on his face. That's not merely an accident or lapse of judgement. Sure she definitely wasn't sound mentally, but it's ridiculous to claim she has no responsibility. Also doing virtuous things does not make the wrong you've done go away.

renanmil said:
I wonder how stain would fight against someone with aids

TJHooker said:
You misunderstood. The bullies represent Endevour, the victim of the bullying that shoots up the school represents the mother, and you represent Shoto. The analogy is very comparable. In both situations a victim is tormented into permanently scarring innocent people. School shooting don't have to be meticulously planned. It can be as simple as bringing a parents weapon to school the next day. How can you continue to downplay her crime? She literally mentally destroyed her son by disowning him (her being the only person in the world he trusted), realized what she had done, and decided to fix it by restraining him and pouring scorching water on his face. That's not merely an accident or lapse of judgement. Sure she definitely wasn't sound mentally, but it's ridiculous to claim she has no responsibility. Also doing virtuous things does not make the wrong you've done go away.

Votbear said:

Are you even watching the same show now? Disowning him? Restraining him? What the fuck have you been watching?

She was calling her parent IN PRIVATE, asking for help because she's afraid she's about to lose it from the abuse. Todoroki suddenly showed up and surprised her. She lapsed, accidentally knocked a kettle of boiling water to his face. How the fuck did you end up perceiving that as some kind of planned child torture? That's the reason todoroki still asked where she was after the incident - he KNEW she didn't mean it. Endeavor didnt give a shit about her and locked her up without a second thought. Do you really think a "mentally destroyed" disowned son would look for his mother?

You dont accidentally repeatedly shoot a gun around a school murdering tens of people. It's a conscious decision to bring a gun and take people's lives. It's absolutely different from an accident done in a panic.

JooVieira5 said:
I just don´t understand why the smash of deku don´t hurt stain.. 5 % of one for all still very powerfull and should cause damage

Wintovisky said:
I have to admit that this episode was very good.



I was wondering that too. It wouldn't damage someone only if they were really fucking strong, I guess.

BennyDelon said:

Izuku hit Todoroki with the 5% smash during their fight, and it didn't do much damage either.

Wintovisky said:
Damn, the guy creates wind with his fingers, explodes ice and stuff but when he hits someone it doesn't do anything lol. Do you remember the episode? Was it a direct hit or was it blocked?