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May 7, 2017 7:45 PM
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For example, someone told me recently that 99% of all anime is better than avatar. In your heart do you really believe this. I mean, i am aware that there are some anime better than avatar, but almost very little. I don't think i could even name more than 10. I have been noticing this disrespect alot on this forum. I personally prefer for the most part anime to american cartoon, and i believe anime might be slightly superior to american cartoon but not to the extent that some people think it is.
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May 7, 2017 7:48 PM
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Because a lot of people want to feel high classed for liking something so all other things must be brought down a peg
May 7, 2017 7:50 PM
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Because anime fans are insecure, you should know by far.

Also since you have an empty list I am gonna give you the benefit of the doubt but I am not sure how much does it matter that you can find only 10 series better than it if for all I know you cloud see 11 in al your life.

Aside from that, never seen avatar but it looks like a meh-okay generic mix of fantasy and martial arts with adventure typical for the battle shounen genre.
May 7, 2017 7:52 PM
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you should watch it before judging it, it is considered by some(including myself) to be the best western cartoon of all time
May 7, 2017 7:52 PM
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99% of anime. Really now...

I feel like this is b8 gr8 m8
May 7, 2017 7:55 PM
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Deknijff said:
Because a lot of people want to feel high classed for liking something so all other things must be brought down a peg


Plus, western cartoons get a bad rep as only being childish shows with no real plot.











May 7, 2017 7:55 PM
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Not a cartoon, but I literally just finished watching Westworld, which just made me think how anime is centuries away from being what it should be - good.

Kamakura-senpai said:
Deknijff said:
Because a lot of people want to feel high classed for liking something so all other things must be brought down a peg


Plus, western cartoons get a bad rep as only being childish shows with no real plot.

And anime has a bad reputation of taking place in schools, consisting of mainly girls with large tits, incest, extreme violence and gore and tentacle rape. But is it truly that?
May 7, 2017 7:57 PM
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Kamakura-senpai said:
Deknijff said:
Because a lot of people want to feel high classed for liking something so all other things must be brought down a peg
Plus, western cartoons get a bad rep as only being childish shows with no real plot.
well anime gets branded as just porn a lot so every medium kind of has to deal with something like that
May 7, 2017 7:58 PM
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Possibly bc most western cartoons are generally more childish and therefore lower quality. They're all also very episodic. I personally adore the gems like Avatar & TLO Korra tho so I'm just playing devils advocate here

EDIT: omg didn't realise someone already said this woooooooops reading skills lvl 0
May 7, 2017 8:07 PM

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Because Western cartoons are exclusively childrens shows or toilet humor (or both). Which makes them bad.
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May 7, 2017 8:11 PM

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because only south park is decent and maybe samurai jack i don't know
May 7, 2017 8:20 PM

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Because a lot of Western cartoons are aimed towards children or at middle aged men. There's some exceptions but most anime fans are too clouded with hate to give the good cartoons a try.
May 7, 2017 8:21 PM
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Because a lot of Western cartoons are aimed towards children or at middle aged men. There's some exceptions but most anime fans are too clouded with hate to give the good cartoons a try.

And anime is aimed towards antisocial young adult virgins.
May 7, 2017 8:27 PM

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But it is true, that 99% of cartoons is better than anime, don't let me started with chinese cartoon since it's the Heaven all men have sought...
May 7, 2017 8:28 PM

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_Ako_ said:
But it is true, that 99% of cartoons is better than anime, don't let me started with chinese cartoon since it's the Heaven all men have sought...


you on a bean son? Most western cartoons are not good. Steven Universe is trash
May 7, 2017 8:28 PM

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Isn't it basically this way in the western cartoon community towards anime as well? Some users on this site are pretty defensive when it comes to cartoons vs anime, siding with cartoons. I can totally see someone posting about anime on a western cartoon forum site and getting circle jerked on just as easily as people on MAL do in the vice versa scenario. Though the majority of them on this site are just bait topics.

All in all, all communities are pretty defensive.
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PoeticJustice said:
_Ako_ said:
But it is true, that 99% of cartoons is better than anime, don't let me started with chinese cartoon since it's the Heaven all men have sought...


you on a bean son? Most western cartoons are not good. Steven Universe is trash


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May 7, 2017 8:34 PM
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Because that's an honest opinion. Seriously, trying to sway someone's opinion just because you can't find 10 anime any better just shows you to be unnaccepting towards letting someone else have a viewpoint.
May 7, 2017 8:42 PM
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probably because western cartoons are dumpster trash if i had to take a wild guess
May 7, 2017 8:43 PM

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I usually see anime fans praise western cartoons like Adventure whatever and Courage the Doggo.

Avatar is really bad, btw.

May 7, 2017 8:44 PM

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Well majority of western cartoons are trash. A high percentage of them are meant for kids while the opposite is true for anime. Only good western cartoon that I can think of right now is South Park. Legend of Korra was pretty good too.
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Why do western cartoon watchers always need lube to ease the butt hurt they experience when talking to weebs? Answer that first.
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May 7, 2017 8:58 PM

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Because it is true that anime is superior to Western cartoons. I can easily pick out more than a 100 anime with great stories, characters, animation and soundtrack, but I'll have an extremely hard time doing the same with a cartoon. Because there aren't many good cartoons. Most of them are aimed towards children and contain very childish toilet humour. Also, the animation looks extremely same-y.

Now anime is a very unique form of entertainment. It is aimed at all age groups and many different demographics. Anime has something for everyone. Anime is varied, it has many different stories. Stories which cannot be replicated in its western counterpart. Why? Because first of all there will be an uproar if even a hint of nudity or blood is shown on cartoons. Second, if someone in the US suggests making something like Evangelion or Serial Experiments Lain or Jinrui wa Suitai Shimashita, they would get laughed at because they're crazy.

American cartoons are just not creative enough to match anime(and they don't have to). There are a few good cartoons from my generation back in the late 90s and early 00s, but that's gone now. Cartoons back then were good enough or even better than anime.

This is 2017 though. Western cartoons can never catch up to anime. And that's that.
May 7, 2017 8:59 PM

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According to the rule of threads that I just made up: since you had to create 2 threads in a short time period that both say you can't find anime better than avatar, 99% anime is now objectively better than avatar.
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Igwe said:
For example, someone told me recently that 99% of all anime is better than avatar. In your heart do you really believe this. I mean, i am aware that there are some anime better than avatar, but almost very little. I don't think i could even name more than 10. I have been noticing this disrespect alot on this forum. I personally prefer for the most part anime to american cartoon, and i believe anime might be slightly superior to american cartoon but not to the extent that some people think it is.


LOL

i said

I assure you that 99% of the community will tell you that there will be at least 10 anime that are better than your "Avatar"

And it's not offensive to tell you to stop being a fanboy.
May 7, 2017 10:17 PM

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The difference between two set of animation is a highly standard which some japanese animation are much more appealing than to in any kind of western shows.




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May 7, 2017 10:22 PM

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Because anime offers so much more that western cartoons never will because of SJWs.
May 7, 2017 10:24 PM

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Igwe said:
For example, someone told me recently that 99% of all anime is better than avatar. In your heart do you really believe this. I mean, i am aware that there are some anime better than avatar, but almost very little. I don't think i could even name more than 10. I have been noticing this disrespect alot on this forum. I personally prefer for the most part anime to american cartoon, and i believe anime might be slightly superior to american cartoon but not to the extent that some people think it is.


Maybe he just thought that was the case though?

You're acting like your opinion is an absolute.
May 7, 2017 10:34 PM
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Honestly, I haven't heard anything besides Avatar as a decent western cartoon. Would be nice if I someone recommended anything else decent...

99% anime better than Avatar, that's foolish to say.
I'd say 99% of everything is shit. Since number of decent western cartoons are comparatively less and anime numbers are huge, there's 1% of decent anime is comparable and better than Avatar, ie there are a good bunch of anime better than avatar, and 99% anime better than western cartoons taken as a whole :P
May 8, 2017 5:22 AM

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Because by my experience, 99% of the people are terminally stupid.
May 8, 2017 5:28 AM

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Looks like that bashing everything that isn't anime is MAL national sport.

I find hypocritical when they bitch in the forum about people outside the medium who think that all anime are porn or for child. They act exactly like them.

May 8, 2017 5:28 AM

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Nope. I don't think anime is always superior. Especially with stuff like Bambi and Bojack Horseman in existence.
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May 8, 2017 5:28 AM

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Because western cartoons are garbage for this new generation. Even if I didn't like anime, my opinion wouldn't change. Little by little TV networks canceled the good cartoons and replaced them with trash, and started to fuck up the few they had left. I think the only good cartoon left is Gravity Falls.


Spongebob barely airs ffs.
May 8, 2017 5:37 AM
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Because western cartoons focus mostly on children, meaning they usually don't have meaningful story, if they have a story at all, the characters are pretty much the same in every cartoon, they only look different.
But it's stupid to compare it imo. Westerners have they TV shows for things like Sci-Fi, Action, Horror and so on, so they don't focus on making cartoons appropriate for adults. Game of Thrones, Breaking Bad, Oz, Sopranos, etc., are things no anime will ever come close to.
May 8, 2017 5:42 AM

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IpreferEcchi said:
Because anime offers so much more that western cartoons never will because of SJWs.

Are you kidding?
Western cartoons get far more offensive than anime ever has. Go watch Drawn Together, the whole point of the show is to offend anybody and everybody. It's chocked full of swearing, violence and uncensored full frontal nudity. They make incredibly racist jokes, they make fun of the mentally disabled, there's even a joke about raping a dead child and a donkey.

And I sure as hell don't remember any SJWs getting butthurt about it.
May 8, 2017 5:43 AM

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I have actually experienced the opposite. Anime fans stating seriously that cartoons are superior.

Avatar is shit tho.
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May 8, 2017 5:48 AM

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Because bronies are more disgusting than weebs.
May 8, 2017 5:49 AM

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I seriously see more people complaining about weeb communities being condescending towards western animation, than actually seeing weeb communities being condescending towards western animation. Everyone tries to put avatar on a pedestal, saying there are almost no better anime out there and bitch about how much everyone hates on avatar.
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I have actually experienced the opposite. Anime fans stating seriously that cartoons are superior.

Avatar is shit tho.

I completely agree. More people complain about anime not being as good as avatar.

Igwe said:
I don't think i could even name more than 10.

I have seen avatar like 3 times already (not korra, I'll be honest I only saw tads and bits) but I can safely say I could list more than 10 anime that are better not only in animation, but in voice acting and storyline too. You are just biased because you saw it as a kid, that's all.
May 8, 2017 5:55 AM

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Because Western cartoon are for dumb little babies, and I am NOT a Baby! I am a big boy who likes cute anime girls with big boobs!

A lot of anime fans like to bash Western cartoons for being marketed for children, when most of the time anime can be even more immature and juvenile.
May 8, 2017 6:05 AM

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It's because western animation has, with the exception of Disney and some DreamWorks films, suffered badly in quality for decades, while at the same time anime was expanding and increasing the general quality in it's medium. It's called the 'animation ghetto' for a reason.

In the last ~15 years or so it's started to turn around, but that stigma still sticks around.
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Igwe said:
For example, someone told me recently that 99% of all anime is better than avatar. In your heart do you really believe this. I mean, i am aware that there are some anime better than avatar, but almost very little. I don't think i could even name more than 10. I have been noticing this disrespect alot on this forum. I personally prefer for the most part anime to american cartoon, and i believe anime might be slightly superior to american cartoon but not to the extent that some people think it is.


Because weeaboos like to feel like they are high class for watching Japanese cartoons, but they don't want to admit they watch cartoons. So they claim its something else while dissing all other cartoons.
May 8, 2017 7:36 AM

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You'll also occasionally see someone parades the superiority of Marvel cartoons.

Some people like to use their hobbies as status symbols. It's irrational to dismiss a gigantic movement/genre of art. Such people are no fun.
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May 8, 2017 7:58 AM

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Honestly, I haven't heard anything besides Avatar as a decent western cartoon. Would be nice if I someone recommended anything else decent...



If you want recommendations I can name a few.

Batman The Animated Series
Samurai Jack
Star Wars The Clone Wars
Courage The Cowardly Dog
Adventure Time
Teen Titans
May 8, 2017 8:05 AM

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Avatar is a very flawed series. So if it's really the best cartoons have to offer it just proves that anime is better.
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It's because western animation has, with the exception of Disney and some DreamWorks films, suffered badly in quality for decades, while at the same time anime was expanding and increasing the general quality in it's medium. It's called the 'animation ghetto' for a reason.

In the last ~15 years or so it's started to turn around, but that stigma still sticks around.
The animation ghetto was a short period in the 1980 that related to how many cartoons were glorified toy ads. That stigma did not carry into the 1990s or even holds true up to today. Animation quality of western CG animation far surpass japanese animation for over twenty years and continues to strengthen the divide as more money is spent on western CG movies. Japanese animation is also improving; it looks cleaner because of computers and the post processing effects are getting better and better. They use 3D CG to add perspective shots which improved cinematography of many scenes.
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Omkar_Nagwade said:


If you want recommendations I can name a few.

Batman The Animated Series
Samurai Jack
Star Wars The Clone Wars
Courage The Cowardly Dog
Adventure Time
Teen Titans


thanks for ur response :)

I see , so these are compatriots they talk about , ah , I have seen Batman , samurai jack, courage the cowardly dog and many more when I was small. I liked them then, wouldn't watch it as an alternative for anime now, just as you have explained in your comment. Totally agree with you ;)
May 8, 2017 8:16 AM
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proper log form story telling that goes over 3 hours ie a constntat sotry of book length that alot of the time is more accurate to uts sorce tha nay western animation


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It's so I can laugh at the beautiful hypocrisy when they talk about non-anime fans being prejudiced and ignorant and not knowing what they talk about when they say all anime is for kids or tentacle porn. Anime fans are just as prejudiced and ignorant when it comes to anything non-japanese (western animation or live action for example). It's really more a human trait than something related to any particular medium or fandom.
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Cause most (or all) anime cheeses don't talk while walking underwater
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Well, in my case, my low opinion on western cartoons is that they tend to be mediocre episodic comedies, just not my thing.

And I'd say there are more than 10 anime better than Avatar, but as quality of storytelling is decently subjective, and I just don't find Avatar to be super engaging like everyone else does, we could argue this all day and get nowhere.
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