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| this has to be the biggest divide i've seen for a Gundam ending i admit i'm more on the side of wanting a happy ending were everyone lives and the "bad guys" lose and this second season really did a flip for the worse on making them fight a unwinnable battle but the thing that bothered me the most is how underhanded all the tactics that were used against them and how Rustal got away with murder literally without anyone getting wind of all of it and still came out on top. i bet if it wasn't for both Iok and that other scumbag dying i would of raged what a wild and depressing ride it's been overall i give it a 8 ,the finale arc besides the great action was the worse part of the series honestly i feel like there's some room life for them to do a movie but i'm not sure i'd want that next Build fighters when? lol |
katsu044Apr 2, 2017 5:34 PM
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| @Turtles_Leader Not quite sure if this answers your question, but... In s1, Tekkadan were definitely the underdogs. They had no choices available to them. For them it was to keep moving forward to survive. And they had the general moral white side with them as well. As a result we really rooted for them. In s2, they had many more choices and were no longer the underdogs since they've established themselves. Pretty much, the bad end was a result of them making poor choices, and that's simply disappointing. As I mentioned, I'm also heavily disappointed with McGillis, he miscalculated the rebellion, misread Rustal's ruthlessness to do whatever it takes to win, etc. Nayrael said: I feel so sorry for Macky. Literally nobody listens to what he said... Macky believed in "Might Makes Right" and "Power to the Strong" ideals. We have a name for that: Fascism. And conveniently enough, fascists too opposed corruption. But alas, opposing bad guys does not make you a good guy. Also, NOTHING will excuse what he did to Carta and Galileo. He could have persuaded them to join his side, but didn't because, as he confirmed, they threatened to soften him up and make him care about humans as individuals. Guess I'll have to read up on facism sometime, cause I'll be honest, Maccyy's s2 persona completely went past me. |
| This anime went from being dramatic to becoming a tragedy really quickly. I knew the chance was always there, but i still didn't like it. This gundam series went from being one of my favorites, to my least interested. |
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| Okada Mari being Okada Mari again. she has no clue on how to conclude a series. |
| When antagonists win, people would automatically label it disappointing or bad hahahaha, this ain't kiddie show lol It's refreshing to see antagonists win for once 8/10 |
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Rayrin said: When antagonists win, people would automatically label it disappointing or bad hahahaha, this ain't kiddie show lol It's refreshing to see antagonists win for once 8/10 I agree. I like mature shows without shonen cliches. Welcome to real life, kids, where being noble and a good person does not mean you'll make it or succeed. It was nice seeing a more realistic portrayal of how military confrontations end when one side is inferior. Although, I would argue that this is a "happy ending" because their ideal was ultimately realized. |
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| if they were gonna end it this way why did they waste so much time this season on Takaki and Hush if they never amounted to anything more than forgettable side characters. They should have taken that time to instead properly develop Rustal's character more since he played such a large role in the end. We never really got to know more about him and his motivations |
| Excellent ending, although I had been thinking that Almiria might assassinate Rustal as revenge, but that didn't happen. |
| The sword that takes life gives life |
| To be fair, the conclusion was sound. I don't think a "happy ending" could've been achieved any other way. That said, the writing is still shoddy. Despite the ending being the way it was so much important context is missing and the characters(especially the antagonists) were shallow enough that I felt blindsided by their actions in the end. The protagonists also kept throwing that Idiot Ball around like it was nothing in the final act. Horrendous. Heck, Durandal from Destiny was an antagonist that, while I don't like his actions, I could see where he's coming from and could imagine an ending where he would've won and I would've believed it. And I think Destiny is crap. And before I'm accused of being a "child" because I dislike endings where protags die and antagonists win, perish that thought immediately because 3 of my top 5 Hollywood movies and some TV series end that way. IBO S2's writing still leaves a lot to be desired. Perhaps if the rest of the series was formatted like the last 8 episodes, I would've been sold. I had felt like I wasted 20 hours/50 episodes watching something that concludes this way. Waste of time. That said, I still give it a 6/10. Mech designs were cool, music was absolutely LIT, animation is great, and there were a lot of genuine moments in here where the series shone. Final rating: I'd still buy an MG Barbatos Rex/10 |
| I don't like how the story developed in season 2, but worth watching nonetheless. Also, that final pose before the final battle.   |
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| The last episode, everyone was expecting a sad ending but it was still a very sad & tough episode :( At least Merribit got a decent life xD Atra & Kudelia have a reason to live, but it would be even better if Kudelia also had a baby. What a fight...i am speechless... So much feels in one episode :( I was kinda disappointed because i always thought that there was a small chance for a happy ending :( Can we have an OVA where they survive and go to the beach together? xD Glad that Iok and that fatass got what they deserved! I will miss everybody, hope you're having a great tome together ;) <3 R.I.P Tekkadan! You won't be forgotten. Best pic <3  This pic...always makes me tear up :( |
"There is no such thing as an Anime elitist. You watch Anime, therefore, you are trash by society's standards." |
 This is the best line Akihiro said in the whole show XD if anything he's the one that slayed the demon! that fucking immortal son of a bitch! I gotta say though, this is the first anime in a very long time that went well until the end without screwing up, and concluded in the most perfect way! It's been a long time since I gave something a 10/10 and I did it without a second thought, Iron-Blooded Orphans is a masterpiece! |
Z4k said: Rustal is a piece of trash. He got away with everything. Just like these dirty ass politicians. |
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| The ending left a bitter taste it was very unsatisfying and anticlimactic. I was hoping that when Rustal was in the hallway he would have got shot by Eugene or blown up. The way IOK died was not satisfying they could have at least shown the blood gushing out when he got crushed, pretty much the boys are dead. The only thing was decent was ride capping that fat cunt and seeing Mika's son. I hope they bring out a new series or an OVA Gundam wings over this. Score 3/5 due to shitty ending |
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| Me think that those who wish Kudelia had a baby as well think that that would serve as a confirmation that she too was able to win Mikazuki's heart and that she wasn't second to Atra. Well, there wasn't enough time for Mikazuki to do the deed with Kudelia what with all that was going on and also, I don't think he was interested enough to jump her the moment Atra proposed the idea. Mikazuki was never in love with Kudelia and you could also argue that he wasn't really in love with Atra but he felt something for her enough to become intimate with her. I guess both Atra and Kudelia ending up with Mikazuki's babies would confirm the harem ending that a lot of people were hoping for but I'm glad it didn't go that way. |
Monukai said: she didnt even kill mika, he died of bloodloss not even from her attacks.JizzyHitler said: kill off the single most innocent character in the entire show who never fought dirty once, IOK fought dirty and underhandedly and died due to his stupid valor, julietta always fought fair and square and with honor even down to the final battle with mika using a careful head knowing when not to rush into things. ....................you did watch the part where she killed an unconscious Mikazuki, right? |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| the ending was so sad. overall a great job was done when it included the economy/politic content within the war. besides that any dream/purpose from Orga was relegated due to the extreme circumstances..... it's somewhat ironic that biscuit was allways right. maybe the timeskip was out of place, the series should have told us how was the transition to that point with another season, I mean even Kudelia's dream was somewhat accidental. yes, Kudelia's dream comes true but it was forced compared to Rustal who was more a polititian than a soldier. I was DEMANDING a thrid season at the end of the "final" fight BUT repently it was showed a time skip that buried all hope Mika/orga/Macgillis/tekkadan died for nothing when a guy named Rustal won and created a best world just because we never saw Mikas's corpse we need more info about arianhord history we need to know more about mobile armors |
cronosteso23Apr 2, 2017 10:51 PM
| Gintama: "The blade is not to cut down your enemies Nor is it to cut away your own weakness A sword isnt meant to protect your body A sword is meant for protecting your soul" |
| mixed feelings about this show...they realised their ideals at the end but...at what cost, orga, mika, akihiro, hash, shino, naze, lafter, omg, why!! MIKA DIDNT DESERVED TO DIE LIKE THAT, sure, no one can 1v1 (no even 1 v 10,000) this guy? lets throw some fucking daislaves to him from fucking space (basically a fucking nuclear warhead for what it matters) , and even then he fought like a true man, following his best friends last order, truely admirable (akihiro too, but Mika was way more important) honestly tou, Mika should have at least killed Julietta at the end with her, even with a ruined barbatos, even if he died after it, at least it wouldn't had been as bad, it was clear that this was gong to a happy ending but, come one, let us savor Mika's last victory at least we got akatsuki(red(blood) moon), quite fitting name IMO, and sexy grown up atra I sure would've liked that kudelia could also get some sex... I mean a child with Mika I felt rly happy abut that gunshot in the bathroom, but i think one last one to rustal would've let me with a good taste in my mouth after that overall, I feel that this was a 10/10 almost all the ride, sure I think they fucked the end realy hard, but then again I don't a 9 would do it justice... 9.5 out of 10 for me, I sure hope the next gundam is as good as this one if not better (i mean... even if u hated this one.. the last one was G no reconguista....so not even worth comparing ) also... YEESSSSSSSSS IOK FINALLY DIED FUCK YEAH!!!! OMG SO DAMM GOOOOOD!!! DE YOU ANOYYING BITCH!!! |
| Being a fan is like having a penis. Its nice to be proud of it But don't pull it out in public and wave it in other's faces Kyurem Black. Kyurem White. Together they are Pretty Kyurem. |
| My four favorite characters in this series were Mikazuki, Orga, Lafter, and Akihiro, so from that, you can already tell that I wasn't too satisfied with how everything played out. I was really enjoying this show until all the deaths kept piling and piling on top of one another 😔 And worst of all? Most of the antagonist survived when they had no business. Well I guess at least Iok finally died in the end. It really bothers me how someone that used such corrupt methods is now leading Gjallarhorn, but I guess I can still take some good things out of this ending. Gjallarhorn is looking less corrupt, Mars is independent, Kudellia is realizing her dream by making everywhere a better place for everyone to live, and Akatsuki will live a good life away from fighting. He looks and acts just like his dad 😊 Overall, I really enjoyed the series. Just wished it took a different direction towards the ending. |
| We all were watching Mika's son room all this time (ending song)... When Ioq said: "You need to die already." I was thinking "Why are you talking to yourself like that?" It was grittier, scratch that... in the fact it was dirty and put the main cast against something so overwhelming and all they wanted was a place to call home and have peace whit everyone (it is sad because they already have that... when Mika realized that it was too little too late) because some scumbags had them pegged out as slaves (human debris). These last few episodes however really turned a great series into a disappointment. While the overall ending was written in a decent manner and it does tie up basically all the tales of the story(?), overall it fails to satisfy anything that was built up or developed through the show. I get the intent of the creators, with the saying "live by the sword, die by the sword"... but like I said the ending is not the problem here... they messed up the writing/build up to it (character development to some of the characters)... On a side note: Ride - Did he went forward (move on) as Orga ordered them (Tekkadan) or did he went backward (revenge [stuck in the past])...? What choice would you have made in his position? |
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| Rustal logic #1: There is rebellion in our organisation to end corruption? Daislaves that shit. Rustal logic #2: There is a kid and a naked guy having a last stand on the ground against our entire force? Daislaves that shit. Daislaves is a dues ex machina that has been used to make things go "away". It completely ignores everything main characters had to sacrifice in order to get to this point, it's boring and anti-climatic. The "enemy" never had to struggle, never had to "sacrifice" anything. Heck, that jester, Inok and Juliatte got this far pretty much on plot armor alone. It's just as bad as Ains in season 1, "OMG, a bunch of kids killed my commander who I had a raging man crush on, I will avenge you commander!". At least Galio had a reason to be there and felt somewhat conflicted about it. Rustal, the "bad" guy of this show, pretty much used every dirty trick in the book and got away with it. Use of mercenaries to stage a conflict in foreign country? Check. Allowed black mail of a "almost innocent" transport organisation? Check. Avoided taking responsibility for his subordinates action that resulted in death of a perfectly innocent farm? Check. Used forbidden weapon to massacre entire fleet? Check. Manipulated media and vilified main cast to justify his existence? Check. Made a deal with a shady weapon dealer? Check. Used forbidden weapon against an outnumbered and desperate opponent? Check. Just my 2 cents. |
| I shall know no fear as I am fear incarnated |
| Go Team Rustal! - Peace out |
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| I really wanna cuss right now but I will keep my sanity deep down. Really hated this ending, how the main cast got their dreams and objectives busted down because at the end, they lost three of the main pillars of his family. Ride killing Gordon at the end wasn't satisfying, I would have preferred him to kill the son of a bitch Rustal Elion because he got away with everything he planned, being the freaking antagonist of the show. Things were already going the way of the antagonists when Lafter died, and how mister idealist blonde got totally blocked by believing in something that only got himself and Tekkadan in an useless fight. Julieta, what a joke of a character. How the hell is she not dead, why is only Iok dead? She gets to celebrate in front of a deceased Mikazuki and shove it up in the future with Gaelio, whom should be dead too. I cannot stand Julieta's existence. She should have freaking died when Mikazuki fought against her in space, but instead she survives and gets to kill Shino and THE MAIN CHARACTER? Jesus christ, I hate Okada so much right now. I really expected another ending, but at the end, my expectations meet reality. Very frustrated, but at the same time the closure it gave to the series was related to the title. I have seen very few Gundam shows with the main Gundam being a melee robot, and I have to say that I have loved every fighting scene with Barbatos and his melee weapons. That and the soundtrack are my highlights of the show. Second season wasn't all that interesting, but the deaths were something that kept me watching, alongside the whole politics side of the show. But that ending... I can't just give a 7 to a show with this ending. And I am pretty sure Okada will get another Gundam show to write. Disgusting 6/10 |
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| Could've been one the best Gundam series in a while but..NOPE. Honestly I was loving this season till after Lafter's death, since which everything started to go downhill. Kind of like how Game of Thrones went, killing people for the sake of it. Especially episode 24 was disappointing, what a mess. I suppose it wrapped everything up as best as it could, but I think with maybe one or two more eps the writer could've done a much better job. Was pretty sad when Barbatos got wrecked. Thank you Akihiro for finally killing off Iok! Crushed to death! >:D Was going for 10/10 till the last few episodes but final score is 7/10 |
AozureApr 3, 2017 1:36 AM
rheasilvia said: is it just me or mika is the first gundam MC that have a child? Nope, AGE did it before. |
| I don't think Rustal is better than McGillis, also they have same purpose, to revolutionize the Gjalarhorn. I think both McGillis and Rustal are corrupted. Leadership and intelligent wise, Rustal might be better, but moral wise, he's equally evil as McGillis. The commotion on earth is Rustal's doing. He almost made two countries engage in war just to bring down McGillis. He also used illegal weapons, controlling mass media, etc. Meanwhile, McGillis killed his friends, launched a rebellion, etc. Both of them use dirty methods to achieve their goal. In a way, I should applaud the writers that they dare to make this kind of plot and ending. That said, I don't like how things went out. Tekkadan is seen as some group that gets trapped in a war for power, joined the losing side, without being able to do anything. Cool Orga became coward, charismatic McGillis became insane, the characters are breaking down. Rustal group's plot armor are incredibly strong. Iok didn't die from mobile armor or even Aniki's heroic suicide crash (eventhough he died later on). Gaelio who was not that strong in s1 became incredibly strong, even McGillis didn't manage to die together with him. Mikazuki didn't manage to kill Julietta after all that. Shino didn't manage to kill Rustal. Seriously their plot armors are too strong lol. We see the protagonist sides dropping dead like flies, while the antagonist turned victorious while battling with dirty methods. They build the 2nd half plot of s2 pretty well up to before the large battle between McGillis and Rustal's fleet. After Shino died, they just focused on escape without other purpose available. Overall 8/10. Would've rate higher if Tekkadan turned the table, but unfortunately they didn't. |
| As much as i've expected, Rustal Elion is our true Heroes, he planned all this, he want to minimize casualties as much as possible and make use of chochoman Fareed stupid and childish dream is a great ideal. If I'm a girl I'd probably choose such a mature and smart/strong guy like Elion. Damn...he is so perfect and cool |
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rorimoe said: nice try julietta MAL accountAs much as i've expected, Rustal Elion is our true Heroes, he planned all this, he want to minimize casualties as much as possible and make use of chochoman Fareed stupid and childish dream is a great ideal. If I'm a girl I'd probably choose such a mature and smart/strong guy like Elion. Damn...he is so perfect and cool |
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