Why do alot of casual anime watchers hate mecha animes.

Zapredon said:
I'm guessing the reason people don't like mecha is because they prefer watching human interaction,drama,emotions, character development etc. Shows where human are the focus and attention are what they want. Mecha might overshadow them or take away from that.

Scarlett_ryuken said:



yea... that is the most bullshit reasoning i can ever believe in(not you that belief)

Scarlett_ryuken said:


... what,

if anything alot of mechas have more drama, emotions and some even have better drama and emotions then what their watching

most mechas are old school war dramas and politics heavy, how can those be lacking drama ad emotions in any way or form, or lack anymore than whatever genres

Dimethylanime said:
Idk, robot fights and stuff like that have just always bored me.
Then again, TTGL and Code Geass are both some of my favorite anime ever, so... can't really say that anymore, can I?

Fang said:
I don't find mecha fights exciting or interesting tbh. I do love a few mecha anime like Code Geass and Evangelion for example but it wasn't the mecha side of these anime that made me enjoy them.

Zapredon said:


That is why there are exception among mecha anime such as Code Geass,Evangelion and TTGL. In the end,it's execution that matters. Even people who don't like mecha like those anime as can be seen in some posters mentioned here.

perje said:


I just have to point at hollywood and marvel movies.
Do you deny the world being saved by a superhero has no parallel to predominant western belief stories of a supreme being. If someone is brought up to believe success is the product of divine intervention or belief in yourself, why is it a stretch that its logical that they would want to watch fiction of that nature. The protagonist saving the world with a giant machine has no appeal. Look at this thread and the mecha series that get a "pass", its ones where the mecha are not the winning edge but the protagonist is basically a jesus/superman expy.

Scarlett_ryuken said:


problem is that's not what im saying tho,
im saying besides those, there's still prejudice among old school mechas, when in fact those old school mechas that they claim to hate are more drama and politics heavy and are way better executed than those shows they mentioned, but they'll never give those shows a try :s

Zapredon said:


It because having mecha take away the amount of screen time on human. They don't want that.What you mentioned here is also a problem because most mecha anime are about war drama/politics which can get old very fast. You watch one mecha anime it's center around war politic then you watch another mecha anime anime it center around war politic. Whether it executed better or not I not sure.

Pullman said:


I never liked mecha very much myself but I know that they can still offer a lot to people, especially if they're into politics and military and space/sci-fi stuff. A bunch of them made it to my favorites despite not being interested in most of the action or the designs. So it's kinda frustrating when people treat anything with a mecha tag as this show exclusive for mecha maniacs only and don't even consider them no matter what they are about or what their style is. Because I used to be the same and it was really only because of my uncontrollable curiosity about classics that I gave a Gundam a try and started to see mecha for what it is.

Scarlett_ryuken said:


so natural human bias? :s
i mean i watched vision of escaflowne and 8th ms team, and sure it's also about war politics, their quite diff in nature,
all im saying is people need to stop letting the mecha overcloud their judgement,

Murcielagos said:
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I no longer feel like they're fighting when they are in these giant robot suits, it just feels like they are controlling two machines to destroy each other. It feels more like a game than a fight.

Anime where people use swords or guns or whatever are more personal. There's more blood, more interaction, more danger. Mecha fights just create distance between the two fighters, and as a result, the viewer.

Scarlett_ryuken said:
as the title say, heck some "seasoned" anime watchers or people who watch anime for years also seem to avoid mechas for whatever reason.

any idea why?

zombie_pegasus said:
I haven't had much reason to watch any and I've heard they have shitty characters which considering my taste is the equivalent of saying "they're all garbage" which isn't all that appealing of a factor when deciding what anime to watch. I do plan on watching Iron-Blooded Orphans at some point, though.

Pullman said:


well yeah, but also most of what you listed can also be attributed to a lot of battle shounen (young protagonists, rivals, power ups, regular battles, climatic finales etc..) and they are just slightly adjusted for mecha. Others like war drama, politics and tactical battles are also well-received on their own among many people. They might be traditionally part of mecha, but not mecha-exclusive.
Does mecha really change so much about these aspects that people who otherwise enjoy them should avoid them because of that twist on otherwise well-received themes and narrative tools? In some cases yes, but in many not in my opinion.

With that I don't mean to deny the mecha tradition. It's definitely there and people who like it because of that will have a much easier time getting into any mecha, but I don't think it's that dominating and turns mecha into some kind of exclusive club for fans of that tradition. I just want people to be aware of that. I think using a wide range of examples even if they are 'exceptions' is justified when the point is to make people realize that it doesn't literally mean the same formula every time the tag is applied.

I'm not advocating for completely keeping the tag out of the calculations when deciding whether to give something a shot, but merely to not see it as an automatical no-go no matter what the details are. I've encountered mecha tags in the strangest places (for me). For example I still don't think body suits should count as mechas, or the tachikomas in GITS, just to name two examples. It feels like the tag is applied much more loosely than just to the traditional shows you are referring to, but people interpret it as only meaning those traditional shows which blocks their perception of so many of the others. It's the difference between mecha as a genre/tradition and mecha as a tag for any kind of robot or body enhancement technology or armored vehicle.

And that's just one of the ways in which the tag is not reliable. Sure in some ways that you mentionedit is, most of the time, but it also is unreliable in numerous ways. So I don't think we're sugarcoating it. It's just most efficient to counter one one-sided worldview (mecha ALWAYS means Tropes A, B, C and D and that's it) by confronting them with the complete opposite (mecha can literally mean anything if you look for fringe cases) so maybe they'll come out somewhere in the middle where the reasonable people reside (mecha has a tendency to mean certain things, but it comes down to a case by case basis).

Ckan said:

zopeg pls

Slice of Life and comedies have shitty 1-dimensional gag characters.
Romances and Dramas have shitty incoherent, melodramatic, and unrealistic characters.
Moe anime have shitty pedobait characters.
Idol anime have shitty otakubait characters.

They're all garbage amirite.

zombie_pegasus said:
I think it's mostly important that they have enough personality to attach to them and also b likable while also being attractive to look at. Having good seiyuu helps too. I sort of just noticed that the majority of the time when I like the characters I like the anime and when I don't like the characters I don't like the anime. There are obvious single character exceptions, but those don't matter.

You seem to be making the argument that pretty much all anime don't have good characters, but it really depends on how the writing is done. Usagi Drop manages to give a lot of depth to the characters in just 11 episodes while the characters in Smile Precure still seem rather undeveloped after 48 mostly just sticking to the handful of personality traits each of them was dished out at the beginning of the anime. Not sure if it counts as moe, idol, or military but the main character in Sora no Woto had a good amount of depth, however I can't remember much about the other characters.

MortalMelancholy said:
I personally don't like mecha because in my opinion, the concept is a ridiculous and unrealistic way to compensate for the lack of one's personal strength (kinda like how people with big cars are might be considered compensating for something).

Most people who don't like mecha, don't like it because they tend to devolve to "the best mecha wins," rather than the "best fighter," and because mecha anime (especially gundam) overfocus on the mecha themselves, and tend to overdo the "technical" aspect. Half-assed countdowns and status-checks before the mechas actually launch probably seem a lot more retarded to casual viewers (It should look retarded to actual anime watchers too, but they at least understand that it's part of the culture).

Quna said:
I'm not a casual and I don't like mecha either so...

gallivant said:
I thought code geass was literally just about powering up the robots tbh.

the winners of most gundam fights are the ones with the most autistic space powers, not necessarily the best robot.

gallivant said:


Being a casual has very little to do with how much anime you've seen.

Lord_Sithis said:
Because as we all know, using your eyes to kill people and make illusions is more logical than fighting with robots.

Marrone said:


If the supernatural powers are explained properly in their universe then they should make sense logically. It's about context. I also said I find mechas visually unappealing. But you had to cherry pick and leave that bit out. I find normal spaceships that can do everything robots with arms and legs can do to be better suited to my tastes.

gallivant said:


Watch G Gundam. You'll be seduced by the genre and mecha themselves, especially neo holland's windmil gundam and neo mexico's tequila gundam.