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Thebigofan said: Holy shit, I think victor and yuuri kissed at the end!! Yuuri's skating was so good! The other's were ok but the animation was kinda meh. Looking forward to the next ep! I think the animation was much better than in the last episode :D BUT O.M.G.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Did they really kiss, or was it just teasing, as they didn't show that it REALLY happened?? I want to believe.... I want... to... believe, but.. DAMNIT!!! Kyaaah ! Zachirina said: Anybody else jumped around the room screaming after that last scene? ASDFGHJKL I have honestly never fangirled this hard at an anime before WHEN YOU THOUGHT THIS COULDN'T GET ANY GAYER YESSSSS!! I screamed, so hard, I was in Discord with some friends and they we're all deaf after hearing me x"D |
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| Well my mind exploded xD |
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| They definitely kissed. Victor said he wanted to surprise Yuuri. And Yuuri wouldn't be surprised by just a hug. They hug each other all the time. Can you hear that? that's my dark soul being cleaned and purified. BLESS |
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| my kokoro was going maximum doki doki I finally got my yaoi kiss this episode was dope af |
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST HOLY MOTHERFUCKER WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING I swear I am going to go to Japan and fuck Sayo Yamamoto's shit up if they don't end up together |
 Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| My heart stopped just a little bit XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD |
| i personally really enjoyed this episode......especially he kiss ofc :^) but!!!! i dont really think that yuuri and viktor are gay? as in his press conference stated, yuuri didnt mean romantic love but more like the emotional bond to viktor and ice skating in general? idk how to explain but i dont think theyre trying to say "ah two men lets make them kiss gay love so kawaii" especially because this isnt shounen ai rather than that its kinda to show the very very strong bond and passion between them as coach and student(?) and this passion brought on ice kinda thing...... hope u get what i mean theres love but no romantic gay love |
Rotted said: Screagle said: I could write an essay on why they kissed (the positioning, the reaction, what he said afterwards, the way they looked at each other, general build-up, the episode synopsis ect.) but I'm not going to because I don't want to waste my time on idiots. ANYWAY this series has 1st off been my favourite anime of all time by far, and 2nd off this is the best day of my life and my favourite episode of any tv series of all time. It was just so perfect Read above about your wishful thinking. Actually, someone drew out how their mouths would meet in that scene, confirming that because of facial positioning it was a kiss. Plus, you're ignoring the rest of the visual cues, such as the shaking camera and the close up of the lips. As an artist's myself, I KNOW that those are common cues to indicate a kissing scene. Please don't be so rude and let us have our fun, even if you disagree. |
| Love it, best episode so far.<3333 |
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Kayweather said: Frigyesur said: Truueee. This is the biggest qeer-bait I've ever met and it reached its goal. Just look at the fujoshis' reactions, hilarious :DD Totally crazy. He was jumping, the whole questionable scene took 2-3 seconds, meanwhile he supposed to kiss him and turn his head completely to the position side-by-side, yeah, sure, it can be happened. Lol. ...How long do you think it takes to kiss someone, dude? It's not like anyone's claiming they were hardcore making out. Three seconds is plenty of time to give someone a quick peck and then move your head. Also it's an anime. A sports anime, even. It would not be the first animation choice in this show that wasn't 100% grounded in reality. And not everyone into this show (or this kiss) is a "fujoshi." Some of us are actually, y'know, queer. I totally agree! Being a queer woman myself, this episode really made me feel so optimistic for the future!! Also it is possible to jump at someone like that and not get hurt?? Also, if you're going to call the jumping unrealistic, you'd better be prepared to call a whole bunch of straight kiss scenes 'unrealistic' too. They have much more questionable physics. Also I find it so disheartening to see that a bunch of people in an otherwise friendly and welcoming fandom being so abrasive about the kiss! You can have your opinion but you don't have to call others deluded for having theirs smh |
| I really love where this relationship is going. //clutches heart and believes in the kiss |
| I loved this episode so much but I'm so disappointed with the fandom right now. Yes, people on the kiss side of the argument are out of line in some places, but the most disrespect I've seen has been from people who think it was a hug. People are happy that they maybe kissed. Some of those are LGBT+ people who have been strung along by queerbaiting in the past and are so used to it at this point that they don't even get disappointed when it is just bait. Please just let us have this. It's downright depressing to live in a society that treats us as abnormal and as 'bait', so let us have this one thing to be happy about for once. Aside from that, this was a great episode and my beautiful child Phichit really shone. He deserved to win so much!! Just wish it didn't have to be ruined like this. |
Helenus said: I haven't seen the episode yet. But if they actually* kissed, I might consider deleting my MAL account. *a real kiss, not something that vaguely looks like a kiss if you turn your head 180 degrees and drink a bottle of vodka while wearing shipping goggles. His head actually passed yuri's when they hugged so he probably gave him a kiss on the cheek |
Lyrel said: Helenus said: I haven't seen the episode yet. But if they actually* kissed, I might consider deleting my MAL account. *a real kiss, not something that vaguely looks like a kiss if you turn your head 180 degrees and drink a bottle of vodka while wearing shipping goggles. His head actually passed yuri's when they hugged so he probably gave him a kiss on the cheek Yes, I watched the episode yesterday and followed the discussion in these threads. I will see this through until the end. By now I'm still in the 'Non-Canon-Relationship'-team. And I think the show will prove that (from a neutral point of view, non biased). It seems these days we are both kinda hated in the YoI threads, though :'D |
sooyong said: lol wat...Dunno where you are from but we do not kiss each other around for no reason in my country...Same sex or opposite sex,if you are kissing someone that means something...Two men kissing doesn't mean they're gay, and two men who never kiss doesn't mean that they AREN'T gay. The problem here is not if they are gay or not tho...The problem here is that they intentionally made that scene vague for no reason...Worst kind of bait...It is still a bait even if they actually kissed... |
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| Not going to comment about the kiss but Viktor is a hella savage and Yuri sulked like a girl :"Viktor no baka!" |
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| OHHHHH MYYYYY~ That was definetly a kiss! I believe it! And also these dudes xD |
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| It's a kiss. Period. I'm too happy to continue. <3 |
| 鳥はとぶ時 つばさでとぶが あなたはとぶ時 何でとぶのですか？ Terayama Shuji |
| ok I just watched it and OMGOMGOMGOMG !!!! I almost can't believe it literally tho, been a while I fangirled like this over anything... |
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| Anyone wanna fangirl with me for 10 min or longer? ^_^ that kiss was so beautiful and the moment when the sound and music stopped. 100% A KISS! |
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sooyong said: I think the point that people are missing by debating about this kiss or non-kiss is that true love transcends our constructed ideas of how it should be expressed. Two men kissing doesn't mean they're gay, and two men who never kiss doesn't mean that they AREN'T gay. I actually agree on this. Contrary to the person above. It's just that rather than them being gay or not I'd say them kissing or not doesn't mean they are in a relationship and that the ship is canon. I'd love for it to be a kiss but really despite all the "proofs", I just can't help but be skeptical. sooyong said: To judge an entire relationship based on whether or not they did a simple action really does a disservice to what the overall message should be, and that message is that it doesn't matter whether Victor and Yuri are in a certain type of relationship or not, and the type of love it is doesn't matter either--what matters is that this love exists, and it's what carries them throughout this competition. If you guys believe it's a kiss, then go ahead! I understand how much it means to you. I absolutely get it. But the people who don't see it as a kiss also bring up very valid points and I see that too. Personally I don't think there's going to be a single true answer to this, but we'll see. Whatever happens throughout the remainder of the series, I hope people don't end up disappointed just because Victor and Yuri ended up one way or another, because there's so much more about this series that deserves to be appreciated. I don't mind the type of love this is. Yuuri himself doesn't know for now and really I wouldn't mind all that much if, in the end, they were in a queerplatonic relationship, a regular friendship or anything as long as they keep contact. |
| Hoo boy, I think that at this point, people who don't believe that there's something between Yuri and Victor are just refusing to see what's right... in... front... of... them. Hell, last week I was pondering, "man, these guys can kiss on screen and people will still argue that they're just best amigos, just guys being dudes, no poco a poco relationship development going on in every single episode, the paragon of platonic relationships gone queerbait." And this thread is just proof of that. :') They kissed, y'all. Framed to be a kiss =/= misdirection. On another note, where is my boy JJ LEROY, I can't wait to see him in action; apparently he's appearing next episode? If so then wooo next episode is going to be even more of a treat :> |
| Amazing episode once again. I liked that Yuuri didn't get the first place because even though he is my favorite, Phichit performance didn't have any fall like Yuuri but of course Yuuri's perfomance was better than the others so second place had to go to him. This was such an emotional part..... Poor Yuuri! But I'm glad everything ended up being fine and we even got a "kiss" .......... I mean, like I said before Im not a fan of yaoi or shounen ai but if you're gonna put them kissing at least let us see it properly hahah  |
| Aw they're dating!! I'm glad its confirmed Aslo everyone who thinks this isnt gay/they didnt kiss needs to get their heads out of their asses. Yall homophobic lmao. |
AuroraeNov 17, 2016 12:54 PM
| I assume this "kiss" will join the anime hall of fame as the "most debated over 'kiss' in history". Btw I think Yuri's emotional outburst was far more impressing than the so called 'kiss'. |
| >the reaction of everyone in the anime >victor saying that he wanted to surprise Yuri >Victor asking Yuri (as a joke but still) if he wanted a kiss earlier >the close-up with the mouth if its not a fucking kiss Sayo and MAPPA are the biggest troll of 2016. |
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Helenus said: Lyrel said: His head actually passed yuri's when they hugged so he probably gave him a kiss on the cheek Yes, I watched the episode yesterday and followed the discussion in these threads. I will see this through until the end. By now I'm still in the 'Non-Canon-Relationship'-team. And I think the show will prove that (from a neutral point of view, non biased). It seems these days we are both kinda hated in the YoI threads, though :'D People can say whatever they want but the fact that they did not show the actual scene is already proof enough that it wasn't a kiss, also the only people that blushed were only the teacher and yuko everybody else just stared and did have no reaction at all. As usual the fandom is making a big deal out of nothing, I'm just wondering why nobody actually talks about how hard viktor was trying comforting yuri throughout the episode, viktor is trying to grow as a person and nobody gives a shit |
Helenus said: I assume this "kiss" will join the anime hall of fame as the "most debated over 'kiss' in history". Btw I think Yuri's emotional outburst was far more impressing than the so called 'kiss'. Lol. Pretty much that's true :))) I thought until now the shipping wars are crazy but it looks like if you dare to say anything against the canon pairing, horribile dictu unship them it brings the most fierce reactions :))) Paradoxically I'm rather convinced after that 'kiss' it'll be just baiting. Because if it was intended to be yaoi/romance/whatever, they wouldn't baiting but slowly built the relationship between them. Yuuri expressed too much his love on the earlier episode, if it was romantic, he wouldn't do that because he would find it embarrassing. Or not :D I'm not sure. As for Viktor, I rather consider him a naturally flirty type. Yeah, he says things, he uses a lot skinship but I don't find the real 'sexuality' behind them, if you know what I mean. I liked their conversation in the parking lot too. And I felt poor Georgi too. Anja (?) was a bitch. |
| It's been 24 hours... yET I STILL CAN'T GET OVER THIS EPISODE HELP ME I'VE BEEN REPLAYING THAT LAST SCENE OVER AND OVER AGAIN I'VE LOST COUNT Not surprised the ranking went up. I changed my rating from 9 to 10 after watching this episode :') |
Frigyesur said: Helenus said: I assume this "kiss" will join the anime hall of fame as the "most debated over 'kiss' in history". Btw I think Yuri's emotional outburst was far more impressing than the so called 'kiss'. Lol. Pretty much that's true :))) I thought until now the shipping wars are crazy but it looks like if you dare to say anything against the canon pairing, horribile dictu unship them it brings the most fierce reactions :))) Paradoxically I'm rather convinced after that 'kiss' it'll be just baiting. Because if it was intended to be yaoi/romance/whatever, they wouldn't baiting but slowly built the relationship between them. Yuuri expressed too much his love on the earlier episode, if it was romantic, he wouldn't do that because he would find it embarrassing. Or not :D I'm not sure. As for Viktor, I rather consider him a naturally flirty type. Yeah, he says things, he uses a lot skinship but I don't find the real 'sexuality' behind them, if you know what I mean. I liked their conversation in the parking lot too. And I felt poor Georgi too. Anja (?) was a bitch. Yes, totally agree with you. It is indeed a paradox: the more 'borderline-canon' moments they throw in, the more I am convinced they just use the implied relationship as a vehicle to bait the fujoshi. As someone before already stated they don't use the romantic theme 'serious' enough. But I think I have to explain myself one more time because the people here seem to don't understand my point: I would really like the VictorxYuri ship to be an official thing. But I watch sports anime long enough to know that this kind of shows tend to heavily rely on baiting to make more money (and it obviously works). So I am not too easily convinced anymore. "Die Worte hör' ich wohl. Allein mir fehlt der Glaube", dixit Faust. |
| So... after this episode they have 3 Bluray/DVD sets at amazon top 100(1 at top 20).. I can see it having the best sales for non-sequel anime of the year |
I know right! Why else would the audience (I mean Minako, Yuko, the triplets etc.) have that kinda expression if it was just a hug? LIke, they should know by now that Victor is touchy and a hug shouldn't surprise them sooooooo much |
| ep felt a little repetitive, comedy gold though for revealing the fandom for the degenerates they are |
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MY HEART. UGHHHHHHHHHH. I CAN"T HANDLE THIS BEAUTIFUL THING. But as much as I want it to be true... I don't think they actually k-kissed ;; mostly because I think EVERYONE including Yuri would have reacted a little more "GASP" (although I'm sure Yuri would be happy. I hope he'd be happy <3 ) |
| Holy shit. Did it seriously happen? Holy shit. Holy fucking shit, guys! This episode shall go down in fucking anime history or some shit. |
SapewlothNov 17, 2016 4:09 PM
| Proud founder of The Official Anti-Ging Freecss Fan Club Join now! Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
| Such an amazing episode! I really did enjoy everyone's else performances during the Cup of China program. I was feeling emotional when Yuri was crying in front of Victor knowing that he might resign as coach and all that Yuri wanted was for Victor to have more faith in him. I think it captured some of the emotional aspects of how close to the two have come together as coach and student. I do like the insert song 'Yuri on Ice' as his theme for love when he did a tremendous job with his performance though he only won third place. I kind of wanted him to win and I'm hoping he'll eventually reach to that point in time. That end scene with Yuri and Victor almost did look like a kiss so I felt strange inside that it's becoming a little intense for me personally. I'm not sure what to feel since this is a first for me about yaoi and stuff. I do love the series and all I'll keep continuing to watch Yuri's progress as he advances towards his goal for the Grand Prix Finals! |
| JESUS. CHRIST. THAT EPISIDE. WHAT EVEN HAPPENED. I SWEAR THIS BETTER NOT BE FUJOUSHI BAIT. THESE TWO SHOULD GET MARRIED ALREADY. AND LOOK AT YURIO GETTING ALL ANGRY. ITS ADORABLE. |
| I was mesmerised for the majority of this episode. Some beautiful tracks this show uses. |
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weebna said: Amazing episode once again. I liked that Yuuri didn't get the first place because even though he is my favorite, Phichit performance didn't have any fall like Yuuri but of course Yuuri's perfomance was better than the others so second place had to go to him. This was such an emotional part..... Poor Yuuri! But I'm glad everything ended up being fine and we even got a "kiss" .......... I mean, like I said before Im not a fan of yaoi or shounen ai but if you're gonna put them kissing at least let us see it properly hahah I agree with you, this anime is very true to the sport of figure skating. Not many performances are perfect and skaters blunder from time to time. I think it was fitting that Yuri got 2nd, he still has to work on his confidence a bit, but he's come such a long way since Victor started coaching him. Just loved this episode. I can't wait for the DVD that's supposed to come out in December. |
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