ReaperCreeper said: It's the difference between softcore nudity and hardcore fucking. I agree, but softcore FULL nudity should be allowed. In ecchi they show only boobs, nothing more. I want more, but without fucking, because fucking is tasteless and I don't want to see dick. |
| I guess they saw people liked fanservice, and decided to capitalize on that and make it an entire genre. As happens with everything. |
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MasamuneIncestus said: ReaperCreeper said: It's the difference between softcore nudity and hardcore fucking. I agree, but softcore FULL nudity should be allowed. In ecchi they show only boobs, nothing more. I want more, but without fucking, because fucking is tasteless and I don't want to see dick. That's incorrect. There are several ecchi shows that are extremely borderline hentai now. Shows like Shinmai Testament and Masou Gakuen HxH have several scenes involving sexually stimulating the girls til they orgasm and takes it even a notch higher in their OVA/specials. Yosuga no Sora had several full blown sex scenes. I could go naming more examples if needed. |
Lyrel said: sasalx said: @Lyrel I didn't even summon PlotMamster.So I am not defensive about it.I even don't like ecchi that much if it used as a main point in anime. I just answered your question.Also I and the %90 of the fanbase watch it for story as main focus.Maybe you are in the wrong side.Try to focus on story next time. Oh Do you want to know how I calculated that percentage?I used the same source as you used. I wanted to shit on ecchi Click Let's see... I'm not sure if I know what you mean but ya know even after 45 posts nobody has answered my question instead we fight over if ecchi makes a anime bad (which it does but thats a story for another day) rather than just telling me if anybody out there actually knows or has a solid suspicion why ecchi was even invented in the first place and why its not just a sub genre of hentai Well there were quite a few posts saying various origins but you didn't read them. Unless you're asking "Why isn't anything with nudity/sexual innuendos/lewd camera shots/etc. automatically considered porn?" which seems really dumb as a topic discussion. I mean there are a myriad of shows that have content that isn't considered appropriate for all audiences but immediately assuming they're porn is just jaded. To start based on the op post you assume that ecchi shows are regularly available to children which is largely inaccurate. Considering a significant portion of them air in the common late night time slots and are only uncensored on certain premium channels similar to say Cinemax or HBO in the US. Now that obviously doesn't include streaming or purchasing the series but changing the age recommendation won't slow anybody down from searching for it if they want to watch it. I mean if you want to get to the root of it sexual content is popular and common in every culture hence why it is used in series, now it can't be used in every series that would be impractical but it's going to be used in some series. Really the same could be said of any source of entertainment, books, movies, tv series, music etc. all have some subsections relating to sexual content. In addition none of them are worse because of it. |
GamerDLMOct 29, 2016 8:32 PM
| Ecchi runs on sexual jokes and innuendos. Therefore it isn't just raw porn. Hell, some ecchi don't even indend to sexually arouse the viewer. This thread reeks of ignorance. |
| Someone with a god like IQ clearly. I can't live without my ecchi. |
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| In my book, any sub-genre or theme that has a large amount of titles where it is the main focus can be classified as a new genre. "Mecha" spun off of Science Fiction "Harem" and "Echi" spun off from Comedy "Magical Girl" spun off of Fantasy "Martial-arts" spun off from Action ...because it was popular and inspired other authors to write/draw similar types of works. |
KruszerOct 29, 2016 9:02 PM
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| All the money you guys spend on those plastic lewd figurines probably. There are very well done shows that fall under ecchi, so it's hard for me to be mad about it. |
| It's just normal anime with nudity. Who said you're supposed to jack off to it? That's what hentai's for. |
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| its not a genre as it can be anywhere anytime, and its not "nudity without sexual interaction", its just simply super perverted anime lots of ass, lots of tits, sexual jokes, some nudity, lewd camera angels, etc an "ecchi anime" can still have sex in it, they just can't show you the private parts @UnpopularAnime hentai is garbage, ecchi all day |
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Lord_Sithis said: ichii_1 said: LOOOOOOOOOOOL!! HAHAHAHAHA!!Ecchi has actual stories and characters, they don't need to resort to constant sex for an audience. Yeah, sure. Highschool of the Dead best story and characters 10/10 IGN @ichii please ignore this bait... you didn't say anything about best.... |
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Lord_Sithis said: Ecchi != story and characters. Sorry. it does have story and characters, just cause you don't agree that the story or characters are good doesn't mean it doesn't have them its like saying a "this isn't music" um... YES IT IS... just cause you think it sucks doesn't mean it isn't music |
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Lord_Sithis said: EcchiLordMamster said: They have story and characters, most of the times. They're just generic and stupid imho.it does have story and characters, just cause you don't agree that the story or characters are good doesn't mean it doesn't have them its like saying a "this isn't music" um... YES IT IS... just cause you think it sucks doesn't mean it isn't music whether or not you think that is irrelevant, the fact is thats part of what sets it apart from hentai, ecchi GENERALLY isn't the "what the show is about" ALL that matters in hentai is the sex scenes... other stuff matters in heavier ecchi anime |
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Lord_Sithis said: EcchiLordMamster said: And I agree. Hentai is shit, but no one cares about that because hentai had another purpose.whether or not you think that is irrelevant, the fact is thats part of what sets it apart from hentai, ecchi GENERALLY isn't the "what the show is about" ALL that matters in hentai is the sex scenes... a lot more matters in heavier ecchi anime Not like ecchi anime stories are that good though... i gonna say 2 things 1. yea, well, you know... thats just like uh... your opinion, man..... 2. ITS NOT RELEVANT whether or not you think theyre good, thats not what this thread is about if you don't like them, don't watch them... its not that difficult, no one is aiming a gun at your head saying "watch this show or die" and yea, i do agree many of them are generic af, but guess what? most genre are, thats what happens when something is mass produced... so deal with it |
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Lord_Sithis said: EcchiLordMamster said: Yes, and I know why is that the case, but it's 1:15 here and I don't feel like discussing that now.i gonna say 2 things 1. yea, well, you know... thats just like uh... your opinion, man..... 2. ITS NOT RELEVANT whether or not you think theyre good, thats not what this thread is about if you don't like them, don't watch them... its not that difficult, no one is aiming a gun at your head saying "watch this show or die" and yea, i do agree many of them are generic af, but guess what? most genre are, thats what happens when something is mass produced... so deal with it I haven't properly replied because it's pretty obvious that ecchi and hentai are different, and OP knows that but decided to make the thread... i know, this thread is borderline bait... but its been awhile since i somewhat flamed an ecchi thread, so i had to go at someone people not liking ecchi is not my problem, its people never shutting up about not liking it that is my problem.... which, idk why i care, because the more people complain about it, the more it gets made complaining = free publicity so i can't be mad, more fap material for me |
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Minerva_WiseOwl said: I feel like entering the wrong side of MAL, oh well. Never thought many would get worked up with the concept of ecchi.Lets just keep things simple. Oh boy you haven't even seen the other threads mine its still the most normal today lmao |
ichii_1 said: hahahahhaEcchi has actual stories and characters, they don't need to resort to constant sex for an audience. ecchi has actual stories...... hentai has more story than ecchi. echchii is just giant flappy tits gianaxing or cancer lolis panty shots. and retard mc who cant fuck. also has dere chars. hentai eliminates that garbage and gives us what we REALLY want. also, incest hentai tops |
GamerDLM said: Lyrel said: I'm not sure if I know what you mean but ya know even after 45 posts nobody has answered my question instead we fight over if ecchi makes a anime bad (which it does but thats a story for another day) rather than just telling me if anybody out there actually knows or has a solid suspicion why ecchi was even invented in the first place and why its not just a sub genre of hentai Well there were quite a few posts saying various origins but you didn't read them. Unless you're asking "Why isn't anything with nudity/sexual innuendos/lewd camera shots/etc. automatically considered porn?" which seems really dumb as a topic discussion. I mean there are a myriad of shows that have content that isn't considered appropriate for all audiences but immediately assuming they're porn is just jaded. To start based on the op post you assume that ecchi shows are regularly available to children which is largely inaccurate. Considering a significant portion of them air in the common late night time slots and are only uncensored on certain premium channels similar to say Cinemax or HBO in the US. Now that obviously doesn't include streaming or purchasing the series but changing the age recommendation won't slow anybody down from searching for it if they want to watch it. I mean if you want to get to the root of it sexual content is popular and common in every culture hence why it is used in series, now it can't be used in every series that would be impractical but it's going to be used in some series. Really the same could be said of any source of entertainment, books, movies, tv series, music etc. all have some subsections relating to sexual content. In addition none of them are worse because of it. Look we are not talking about a little fanservice here some things here and there bothers nobody,but you can't really tell me that excess amount of fanservice sometimes even to the point where they actually have sex but it isn't shown are the same as seen a panty shot 10 minutes later in the episode., and thats what makes no sense once the fanservice overweights the actual story there is no point anymore in saying "this is just fanservice" its just straight up softcore hentai. And idk from what kind of household yall come from but if my parents saw me watching some hardcore ecchi shit casually on TV I wouldn't have lived to this day . So if setting the age restrictions higher wouldn't help why not just actually do it and see if its really not going to do anything. Also ecchi makes a anime a lot inferior than the others that rely on story and characters, they are never going to be remarkable anyways their only selling point are boobs and butts just put that shit in the R-18 section and we are good to go. |
| half assed hentai.......... /thread |
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| Probably some one who thought that perverted things are funny and then other started to think the same thing too...then it became a genre...all tho it is a bit funny and make me smile af sometimes... |
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HaXXspetten said: Probably because it's... well, practical Even if it's not considered a genre in Japan, what we in the west classify as "ecchi" is pretty distinctive. So I'd actually have to say it's Japan who're the weird ones for not having it as a genre tbh. Or at least I don't see why you wouldn't Becu funny enough, they dont see as anything out of this world and vulgar as many western people do. They literally react to it as "oh, those are tits....cool." And i fucking love that attitude hahah |
PaganPride88 said: The lot of stupid perv, who couldn't realize, if you want boner, you should watch porn This is a stupid argument, it would be like saying you should just shoot guns if you want to see violence. OT: Because people want to distinguish between softcore stuff and hardcore stuff. |
Robiiii said: I know, but even if you're completely neutral about it, it's still practical to be able to describe an anime which contains it. You know, for clarity and cataloguing purposesHaXXspetten said: Probably because it's... well, practical Even if it's not considered a genre in Japan, what we in the west classify as "ecchi" is pretty distinctive. So I'd actually have to say it's Japan who're the weird ones for not having it as a genre tbh. Or at least I don't see why you wouldn't Becu funny enough, they dont see as anything out of this world and vulgar as many western people do. They literally react to it as "oh, those are tits....cool." And i fucking love that attitude hahah |
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Lyrel said: GamerDLM said: Well there were quite a few posts saying various origins but you didn't read them. Unless you're asking "Why isn't anything with nudity/sexual innuendos/lewd camera shots/etc. automatically considered porn?" which seems really dumb as a topic discussion. I mean there are a myriad of shows that have content that isn't considered appropriate for all audiences but immediately assuming they're porn is just jaded. To start based on the op post you assume that ecchi shows are regularly available to children which is largely inaccurate. Considering a significant portion of them air in the common late night time slots and are only uncensored on certain premium channels similar to say Cinemax or HBO in the US. Now that obviously doesn't include streaming or purchasing the series but changing the age recommendation won't slow anybody down from searching for it if they want to watch it. I mean if you want to get to the root of it sexual content is popular and common in every culture hence why it is used in series, now it can't be used in every series that would be impractical but it's going to be used in some series. Really the same could be said of any source of entertainment, books, movies, tv series, music etc. all have some subsections relating to sexual content. In addition none of them are worse because of it. Look we are not talking about a little fanservice here some things here and there bothers nobody,but you can't really tell me that excess amount of fanservice sometimes even to the point where they actually have sex but it isn't shown are the same as seen a panty shot 10 minutes later in the episode., and thats what makes no sense once the fanservice overweights the actual story there is no point anymore in saying "this is just fanservice" its just straight up softcore hentai. And idk from what kind of household yall come from but if my parents saw me watching some hardcore ecchi shit casually on TV I wouldn't have lived to this day . So if setting the age restrictions higher wouldn't help why not just actually do it and see if its really not going to do anything. Also ecchi makes a anime a lot inferior than the others that rely on story and characters, they are never going to be remarkable anyways their only selling point are boobs and butts just put that shit in the R-18 section and we are good to go. Because age ratings are a form of censorship which most industries are not fans of nor are the fans. It would basically make it so a large portion of shows would be physically unable to air on TV if you were to just arbitrarily raise the age ratings on series. Or conversely it would be much harder to separate the two so they would be much more open to airing both, I mean if you falsely treat them as the same thing. So it wouldn't reduce the number of people watching it but the people who really want to could have a much harder time. Now I already said why the idea of children actively watching it was stupid, because the only thing they could see unless the parent specifically paid the channels they air on it would be censored in primarily late night time slots (Ie. 1 am would be a fair range). If they're streaming it on their own then the parents should have been supervising their internet activity or they should have invested in headphones. As for the level of content, you didn't make any distinction you started this thread with the genre ecchi, that is a huge umbrella of variation in terms of the amount of fan service/nudity/lewd camera shots/etc. Really the most hardcore ecchi series are primarily OVA based meaning the only way to watch them would be to purchase the video series or stream. There's also a misconception there which you ignored from a prior post, a good show can make use of all of its parts as I said just because a show/book/movie/etc. has sexual content doesn't mean it's detracting from the story or characters to think so is just asinine. As for the last part that's just like your opinion. |
GamerDLMOct 30, 2016 11:44 AM
romagia said: flannan said: don't be such a tease flannan senpaiOf course, one needs to keep a balance. If your MC killed a god before the show even begins, just what is he going to do next? (by the way, yes, there is an ecchi anime MC who killed a god as part of his dark past) i hovered that in hopes you had linked that ecchi with an [url] tag It's |
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Lyrel said: Look we are not talking about a little fanservice here some things here and there bothers nobody,but you can't really tell me that excess amount of fanservice sometimes even to the point where they actually have sex but it isn't shown are the same as seen a panty shot 10 minutes later in the episode., and thats what makes no sense once the fanservice overweights the actual story there is no point anymore in saying "this is just fanservice" its just straight up softcore hentai. 1) It all depends on your tolerance of fanservice. Strike Witches has a pantyshot in every shot, yet I like how it's a hybrid of Cute Girls Doing Cute Things and military monster of the week show. 2) Yes, some anime are softcore pornography as at least part of their description. And that's the way it should be. 3) Note that your genre assessment does not work for a genre most likely to be ecchi - romantic comedy. Nudity isn't just fanservice, it's also humor. (for reference, there are non-ecchi romantic comedies, like Jitsu wa watashi wa, and deadly serious ecchi anime, like Highschool of the Dead) 4) Ecchi authors are really good at avoiding R-18 category. It's good for marketing. 5) Ecchi fans like it this way. They like 12+ episode series with characters they come to care about. They like nice and expensive art. Lyrel said: And idk from what kind of household yall come from but if my parents saw me watching some hardcore ecchi shit casually on TV I wouldn't have lived to this day . This is the core of the problem. Ecchi fans are generally comfortable with their sexuality. I got my first books that explained how humans procreate in elementary school or earlier. Lyrel said: I'm not sure if I know what you mean but ya know even after 45 posts nobody has answered my question instead we fight over if ecchi makes a anime bad (which it does but thats a story for another day) rather than just telling me if anybody out there actually knows or has a solid suspicion why ecchi was even invented in the first place and why its not just a sub genre of hentai Did you see my answer in https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1564962&show=0#msg48346944 ? KuroudoAkabane said: ichii_1 said: hahahahhaEcchi has actual stories and characters, they don't need to resort to constant sex for an audience. ecchi has actual stories...... hentai has more story than ecchi. echchii is just giant flappy tits gianaxing or cancer lolis panty shots. and retard mc who cant fuck. also has dere chars. hentai eliminates that garbage and gives us what we REALLY want. also, incest hentai tops You seem to confuse romantic comedies and ecchi. Pure romantic comedies indeed have funny (=silly) characters, and not much plot, but if you can't enjoy that, it just means you don't have the right sense of humor for them. Ecchi isn't limited to romantic comedies. In fact, I prefer ecchi action, which is like ordinary action, but ecchi. Minerva_WiseOwl said: I feel like entering the wrong side of MAL, oh well. Never thought many would get worked up with the concept of ecchi.Lets just keep things simple. It's one of this forum's sore spots. |
| Thought ecchi starts at the age limit of 13+. I believe ecchi could be a sex education for teenagers to learn about their bodies and when they are old enough to have intercourse then hentai is the next level |
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| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eroticism Ecchi is just anime version of it. In other words it's been "genre" for hundreds of years. I'm too lazy to search for it in english, but long time ago I heard teacher's explanation what's difference between erotic and porn in art. |
JustAnotherShiroOct 31, 2016 2:40 AM
| Oh look, another one that doesn't get the difference between ecchi and hentai *sigh* |
| Sometimes I want to see fat anime tiddy or booty hidden behind clothing while watching anime instead of flat out hitting up a hentai site. |
Lyrel said: sasalx said: Monogatari series. Are we done OP? /thread Also ecchi is a genre as yuri or yaoi can so there is that. No we are just getting started :/ also from all the examples you could have taken you take the one that relied the most on fanservice even they didn't had the confidence to rely on their story and characters and their story wasn't even bad but now nobody cares cuz waifus Monogatari has almost no fanservice and all of what there is is done creatively and contributes to the characters or story... I've been meaning to start a thread on this, I have no idea where people get this idea. SAO even has more fan service than Monogatari. It's VERY character and story focused... watch shows (and by that I mean Second Season) before making judgments OP :P As for the topic... I think it's fairly obvious it's a tease for guys and girls that lean that way. Though I don't really see it as a full-blown genre so much as a tag. You can't just have "ecchi" there needs to be some other element to it like action or supernatural or what-have-you. I've never seen anything just labeled "Ecchi" and nothing else. |
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| The perverted fanbase of anime I don't really get the purpose of ecchi, just go watch hentai or porn or whatever fetish you're into. Plus they lack a decent plot the fanservice is just distracting and i don't fin them enjoyable overall. (Though not all ecchi are bad) |
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