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animefan8800 said: So Suwa got a letter too? From his future self? I...don't care for the implications to this, but I'll reserve judgement until we get more details. That aside, best-character Suwa continued his streak this week, first half Naho was obnoxiously meek against Ueda, and the lack of specifically mentioning Kakeru's mom's suicide in Future Naho's letter to herself, until AFTER it happens, continues to make absolutely no sense. But it's required for things to play out like this...weak writing. Oh, and the future scenes still aren't working for me. Yeah well, I guess. But it was a whole letter and she did write it eventually, how would she know that her past self would be reading it day by day instead of in one go? It's a pretty shocking thing to say so it makes sense. And Naho did say it was scary to read it in one go... I mean yeah, it's a bit too convenient but it doesn't automatically make it weak writing. |
Aiko_Hiroshi said: Man I can understand Kakeru's regret and how he feels he killed his mom. That ending proved that Suwa knew everything all along too with his letter from the future, which explains a lot about what's happened so far. Really looking forward to next episode since this is such a great adaptation of the manga. Yes and Suwa was the one who invited him... remember Naho just stood there not doing anything? Why did Suwa go out of his way to invite him when the letter said not to? Unless Suwa's letter didn't say that. |
| Great Comments, love MAL discussion. I feel you man, that perfect zero, just tell your past self to kill her, you got this :^) yeah, screw you Ueda "I would want to get asked out by you" "I would want to ask you out" as well as the rest of statements.... HOW ARE THEY NOT A COUPLE?! This conversation.... it was intense..... Naho must really be hurting from failing Kakeru in the first entry..... ok, sadly, they didn't completely confirm Suwa getting future letters.. and it could just be a normal letter.. so I'll save the 'there is no way Suwa isn't more depressed fixing Naho with Kakeru unless he got a letter giving him meaning' Honestly, I'm really hoping this is a huge prank set up by Kakeru, I will love him so much if this is true, he might have got a letter from his future self too!! |
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| I swear, if that letter to Suwa is from future!Naho and she's playing off his feelings for her to get him to work with her present self... I hope that's not the case, though honestly future!Suwa sending it himself is even worse. This boy doesn't deserve this shit. Everyone should be sending future letters to make sure Suwa has a great life, not Kakeru. Speaking of Naho, this girl is such a mentally deficient pushover, my god. She hasn't got enough personality for even one guy to like her, let alone two. I totally understand why Ueda is so frustrated with her, lmao - it's one thing for your boyfriend to leave you for someone spectacular, but she's so dull and dithery. I really don't think Kakeru handled their break-up properly, either... He should've spoken to Ueda about it, and had the balls to tell her he's not actually interested in her, instead of leaving her in a position where she thinks Naho just stole him and she'd have a chance without her being around. They shoulda made this show be about glasses guy and ponytail girl instead anyway, though - they had more chemistry in one post-pageant scene than Kakeru and Naho have had in 6 episodes. |
| oooh wow that's all i have to say |
witchhuntress said: MexicanNinja212 said: That's just the thing though, after one day ten years later they all have a sudden rembeernce of Kakeru and learn his accidental death may have been suicide and they all feel remorse. That's to be expected, but the second that letters to the past are sent they essentially are destroying themselves (future selves redoing the past) in hopes that they manage to keep Kakeru around, who is a person they've known for literally several months. I don't understand their motive to want to erase the people they are going to become (alt universe future selves but they still change aspects of themselves) all in the sake of saving that one classmate 10 years ago. Using friendship as the motive is ludicrous because they've known each other for such a short time. Therefore one has to assume that Naho dos it because she was hung up on Kakeru and essentially deemed her alternate future self would be better suited if Kakeru were around. Meaning she threw her child and Suwa to the side for Kakeru. Yes, I understand that saving a person's life in return to possibly ruining their futures is foolish. They're trying to make one person happy to alleviate their regret (I wonder if they even know that the letters were really sent to the past). But this just goes to show that even if they just knew him for a short time, their friendship with him was real and strong and their regret a very big one. By writing a letter to one's future self, I feel though that there's some arrogance and confidence that the future won't change too much. If Kakeru were to live, they seem to think that it'll work out; what they lose is the regret. That's one of the character flaws they all have. But by having Suwa receive the letter, can we really think it's ONLY Naho who threw their child and marriage away? It's so easy to think of life as a balance. That life of someone so damaged and long-gone can never be worth it to be saved in expense of everyone else's futures. It's morally wrong to us, but to this circle of friends it's not. Because it's all in their self-interest, and that's the only regret that lingered so much in the ten years that came. They didn't think further of the consequences of their actions probably, if the rest also sent letters. Or they tried not to think more about it. Is the motive we all assume enough to justify saving Kakeru? To us, it won't because he doesn't "deserve" it. But to these people, they think he does deserve a future. As to them meeting up one day, they most likely decided it in advance. They planned to dig up their time capsules and visit Kakeru. the one thing I dont get in all those comments, is it was explained a couple episode before that changing 1 element in the past wont change the future, but create a parallel version of it. So nobody is ditching anyone, they are trying to create an alternate version of their life where their alterate-selves wont have to deal with the regret of not saving a friend. Anybody has one day or the other wonder what their lives would be like if they made a different choice in a particular moment. The magic of anime/manga lets you do that. - Although the personne who wants to change things wont know what happened in the end exepts if it is possible to echange letters between parallel dimention, which would be fucked up because you could know all outcomes of you decesions and influence your past self to do the choices that works best.... sortoff like Anyway I cried a lot in the episode! XD |
nihon_no_tsukiAug 8, 2016 2:17 AM
| It should be obvious now that Hagita is the only true hero in this story. He is the freaking boss. The feel train will go full speed the nest chapter!! |
| That scene where Naho asked Kakeru is he regret not being able to save his mother was so emotional. It hit me so hard that I almost cried. If Naho never talked to Kakeru that day and invited him to hang out after school, his mother would probably still be alive. Painful regrets, even for Naho... The first half with the school festival and fireworks, Ueda is still such a bitch. I love Ayane Sakura but god dammit even her voicing Ueda makes me hate her. The fireworks scene was really sweet though. That cliffhanger ending though. Suwa got a letter too?! I gotta say though, Suwa is such a bro and an amazing friend. He's the true MVP in Orange. |
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| So there is another letter. Plot twist. But still Naho is pathetic. |
| "The future is always blank. Only your willpower can leave footsteps there." "Ruling over death means ruling over life. Death is the climax of life. To have the best death, you must honor life." |
| It was a brilliant episode. Made me cry a bit ;_; I guess I might be the only one who like Hagita best :'D Dat twist at the end caught me off guard :O |
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| Im loving this anime a lot! Such a good episode! But why do I still think that the future still won't change, and Kakeru will still end up dying! |
| So besides Naho, Suwa also got a letter. Hmmm yeah that makes sense. I think other 3 also got letters. |
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| So Naho and Kakeru are spending more time together and he is getting closer to her. They both are asked questions about who they would date among their opposite sex friends and while watching the fireworks, Naho answers that she'd date Kakeru while he answers that he'd date Naho. Future Naho did tell her past self to tell Kakeru how she feels so she made sure to tell him. Ueda is still being a bitch and wants something from Kakeru as she sends off Naho on a stupid errand while she goes towards Kakeru. And then Hagita becomes the hero here as he sends Ueda off to the soccer club room lol. Good job. And then it is festival time and everyone coincidentally runs late at the same time. Nice coincidence. They all sacrificed their friend time for Naho and Kakeru to be alone like a date. And the date ends with Naho asking about Kakeru's mother. Kakeru's mother was ill and mentally unstable and committed suicide when Kakeru didn't come when her hospital was being changed despite him promising. Naho feels terribly guilty now for not stopping the others from pressurising Kakeru back then. She feels it's her and her friends fault Kakeru's mother died as in the future, Kakeru's reason for killing himself was this very event. He couldn't share his feelings with anyone and bore it alone which resulted in him not being able to take it anymore. Future Naho wants to be the person with whom Kakeru can share his feelings. Naho didn't read the entire letter at once and read only the parts relevant to the day. Wasn't she curious enough to find out just what her future self wanted to save Kakeru from so badly? Guess she was scared to find out what kind of fate Kakeru would have and just wanted to blindly follow instructions hoping that it would save Kakeru from whatever. And Suwa also got a god damn letter from the future! This does two things – it gives Naho some relief that she won't have to go at this alone and will have someone to help out, but it also kinda hints that nothing is changing because of Naho's actions. The present deviating from the letters is due to Suwa's actions which future Naho probably didn't expect. Suwa coming to stop Naho at the stairs from running away wasn't a result of Naho handling the situation differently as she was told to, it was because Suwa was told to show up there by his future self. Naho not having to force Kakeru to join the football club permanently wasn't because things were changing, future Suwa told him to do so. But then we have events which don't look like they're the work of Suwa. I would like to see how exactly Suwa changed things which resulted in the festival and fireworks topic not popping up. What this hints at is that things are changing, but not a lot. A lot of unexpected for Naho events are because of Suwa interfering and not because of her actions changing the future, but some could possibly be because of the future changing. Now, what's really worth knowing here is how much does Suwa know about the current situation. Obviously his future self told him things in a different way than Naho. And he obviously told himself different things than Naho. I'm guessing he told his high school self that he marries Naho, but also tells him that she's not exactly happy and would be way happier with Kakeru so he has to save Kakeru for Naho's sake, to make Naho happy. Suwa probably knows that Kakeru's problem is his mother's death and is secretly expecting Naho to somehow talk about it with Kakeru by giving them a lot of alone time. Another thing is that we don't know things from Suwa's perspective. Suwa obviously experienced different things than Naho. Did Kakeru come to the future Suwa to ask whether he should really date Naho or not? If he didn't then things really are changing but Naho can't see it. If he did then things are the same and nothing's changing. Another thing is that did the future Naho experience this furious shipping? Did the gang try and push the two together so hard back then? That's really interesting, because if they didn't back then, then it could possibly mean that the others have letters too. The event of Kakeru going home with them on the first day was bound to happen. The future selves anticipated that this event was going to happen because obviously they wouldn't believe a letter claiming to be from the future. With how Suwa invited Kakeru, he probably didn't read the letter past the first few lines. Or maybe he got to the letter (or the letter got to him) a bit late. And the climax is around Valentine's day as that's when Kakeru kills himself. Naho would probably have to be quick in giving him the chocolate. I really like how they continue to push forward both theories – the future can be changed and the future can't be changed – but they don't tell us which is it. And there's no way for us to know until we see the Valentine's day climax because that will decide whether the future has really changed or not. We don't have enough information to decide right now as they haven't told us the events future Naho and friends experienced – we only get small sentences about major events which Naho wants to change but not the whole picture. That's pretty cool. Things just keep getting better here. I'm really loving this show. Now to see how much information is exchanged between Naho and Suwa and how they handle the remaining 6 or 7 episodes' events. |
Yamada2Aug 8, 2016 5:57 AM
Cejara said: @Ravivi The thing is, I wouldn't try to base saving someone from killing themselves on something so simple as spending time with them. Why not get him professional help (I know its asking too much for anime, there would be no story if that happened, it just irks me as a mental health professional). Those cases you describe are few and far between with the suicide rates being really high; psychopharmaceutics, therapy, and complete lifestyle changes are usually needed. That's not to say that those rare epiphanies don't happen because they do with people that have great self-insight even in grips of depression. Also suicide ideation is co-morbid with depression and both are highly correlatied. In this series, you can see the guy is definitely depressed from the subtle hints and certain interactions he has with Naho plus the hindsight. If I were to see him in session, I would probably diagnose him with this, but it is more of a situational depression and not a clinical one if you know the difference. As for Naho putting her family 2nd place, that is my own feeling on that matter. She seems to care way more about it than her friends like she can't get over her love for the guy. She even said that she will never forget the words he said to her (forgot what they were persay, but they were romantic in nature), but at the same time we also get more focus on her so who knows. It just seems if the authors intent was to have her regret being that she couldn't save him it got convoluted well with this romance plot going on in the "past". @Witchhuntress I do agree we need some more info, but for some reason it just doesn't sit right with me this whole plan they have. Suwa has to give up his relationship with Naho in an alternate timeline to save Kakeru. If saving him wasn't about love then why does this even have to happen? Not to mention Naho wrote those letters to her past self trying to get her closer to Kakeru, but some of those times she suggests things that are romantic in nature. Like the eraser part, telling him its not okay to date senpai, and so on. Why does she have to date him to save his heart if her only regret is not saving him. Can't this be done without disrespecting your husband even if its in another timeline like wtf? If you were truly a devoted wife, knew your husband loved you since highschool, then tell your past self to do all these romantic things with Kakeru while Suwa is being pushed to the side, Suwa is still being hurt in another timeline. She shouldn't want that for her husband even if its in another timeline. How does she know this won't make Suwa kill himself in that timeline or ruin his life for having to put his feelings aside for his "soulmate" just to save this guy they known for several months. It just doesn't feel genuine to me, no matter how they try to sugarcoat it. This is not even mentioning that she is knowingly not letting her kid be born in another timeline; if she was truly happy and loved her kid and husband then wouldn't she want that for the Naho in the other timeline. I mean Kakeru died, its been 10 years, you feel regret, but does everyone really have to uproot their lives for this. It seems like they haven't even thought of those implications or they did and don't care. So much this!!!!! |
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| I don't know why I keep watching this anime when I know I'm just gonna cry every episode |
| I kinda think they didn't really know why Kakeru shouldn't have come with them when they invited him. I think in the future they just know his mother commits suicide that day but I think it's in this new timeline that Kakeru actually tells Naho they truth. Tbh, it's really sad about Suwa in the end but I think it was kind of obvious since the very beginning that Naho having regrets had a great deal to do with her feelings for Kakeru. It's definitely not about *just* saving him. It would have been very easy for the writers to have made future Naho single or just in a relationship with Suwa and not married with a child; I think this was done deliberately to make you question her actions and her motivations. It's definitely questionable and it does suggest that she doesn't actually truly love Suwa; which is sad but in the end when you fall in love with someone and they commit suicide it's hard to fall in love again so... I don't think I can totally blame her... Besides she said she had *a lot* of regrets in the beginning not just one. One reason I think that she's not truly in love with Suwa is because given her character it seems hard that'd she'd eventually fall in love with him even though she had 0 interest before. It also seems kind of weird that she'd have a short relationship with Kakeru and then decide she loves Suwa... >.> But in either case I think Naho also regrets letting some experiences she could have had as a teenager just slide away because she was a coward; I think that's one of the main themes of this show and actually what makes you relate to it more than the fact that she has to save Kakeru... I think the point is that you have to say some things while you still can because you never know what may happen, in this case Kakeru's death can be prevented but I could assume she would've still sent the letter even if it couldn't have. That being said, I have a feeling she might not succeed and then her present self will send another letter to the past in hopes of changing another past (if that makes any sense >.>) This would've been a cool visual novel XD Also I read someone said Kakeru should have just broken up with Ueda... I think he did talk to her to break up... they just didn't *show* it, if I remember correctly he mentions to Naho that he has broken up with Ueda.. I don't know why some people here hate Naho '-' Sure she does questionable things in the future but it's hard to judge her when you haven't really experienced that sort of thing... I think it could drive anyone crazy if they had a crush commit suicide... And the present Naho totally has some flaws and she's a bit of a coward but she's slowly getting over that and that's what the show is about anyway =.= |
FayliciaAug 8, 2016 6:55 AM
| "Did you get it too... a letter??" A simple line that changed the course of the anime... |
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Cejara said: @Witchhuntress I do agree we need some more info, but for some reason it just doesn't sit right with me this whole plan they have. Suwa has to give up his relationship with Naho in an alternate timeline to save Kakeru. If saving him wasn't about love then why does this even have to happen? Not to mention Naho wrote those letters to her past self trying to get her closer to Kakeru, but some of those times she suggests things that are romantic in nature. Like the eraser part, telling him its not okay to date senpai, and so on. Why does she have to date him to save his heart if her only regret is not saving him. Can't this be done without disrespecting your husband even if its in another timeline like wtf? If you were truly a devoted wife, knew your husband loved you since highschool, then tell your past self to do all these romantic things with Kakeru while Suwa is being pushed to the side, Suwa is still being hurt in another timeline. She shouldn't want that for her husband even if its in another timeline. How does she know this won't make Suwa kill himself in that timeline or ruin his life for having to put his feelings aside for his "soulmate" just to save this guy they known for several months. It just doesn't feel genuine to me, no matter how they try to sugarcoat it. This is not even mentioning that she is knowingly not letting her kid be born in another timeline; if she was truly happy and loved her kid and husband then wouldn't she want that for the Naho in the other timeline. I mean Kakeru died, its been 10 years, you feel regret, but does everyone really have to uproot their lives for this. It seems like they haven't even thought of those implications or they did and don't care. Yes, it's a horrible plan. At the same time, those romantic things Future Naho advised are pretty much for her own wish fulfillment, but I don't think she ever told her past to date or marry him. I guess it's just me, but her letters seem to emphasize on making Kakeru smile and be happy and being true to herself with him, to tell him how she feels in return and he may turn to her and tell her how he feels, not necessarily romantically. As I said, it's a strategy they concocted because they prefer to do it this way. As to setting Suwa aside, I'm also wondering if Future Suwa consented or not about what she wrote to her past. Now that Suwa also got a letter, isn't he at fault as well? He's clearly telling his past self to root for Naho and Kakeru or else past Suwa wouldn't act like that. As to Suwa killing himself, will he really? If in case he got a letter and his Future self told him about himself in the other timeline, is it characteristic of Suwa to kill himself? It's uncertain, yes. But it's also possible that he will not kill himself instead of Kakeru committing suicide because he's the kind of guy who would gladly step aside for someone else. In the end, Suwa deserves better, and if even with Kakeru alive, Naho still chooses him in the end, there's still hope that they're not ruining their future and their child's birth together. But in this timeline Suwa is better off without Naho then. If all he feels is regret and being second-best, this past timeline is also his way of getting a different future and feeling less inferior choice to Naho. But as I said before, it's horrible, and it's arrogant. They are gambling their own futures and child without thinking much of the consequences. In the end, they don't care if they are being judged if they are morally right or wrong. They are simply doing what they subjectively feel is right without knowing (and only hoping) that it will come true in another timeline. If that's all there is to it, then that's all there is to it. There's no sugarcoating in that. It's horrible and they're all horribly flawed for it. Still, we will see more in the future if something changes or not or some new info will re-evaluate some things. Yes, it doesn't feel geniune. |
witchhuntressAug 8, 2016 8:06 AM
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witchhuntress said: Cejara said: @Witchhuntress I do agree we need some more info, but for some reason it just doesn't sit right with me this whole plan they have. Suwa has to give up his relationship with Naho in an alternate timeline to save Kakeru. If saving him wasn't about love then why does this even have to happen? Not to mention Naho wrote those letters to her past self trying to get her closer to Kakeru, but some of those times she suggests things that are romantic in nature. Like the eraser part, telling him its not okay to date senpai, and so on. Why does she have to date him to save his heart if her only regret is not saving him. Can't this be done without disrespecting your husband even if its in another timeline like wtf? If you were truly a devoted wife, knew your husband loved you since highschool, then tell your past self to do all these romantic things with Kakeru while Suwa is being pushed to the side, Suwa is still being hurt in another timeline. She shouldn't want that for her husband even if its in another timeline. How does she know this won't make Suwa kill himself in that timeline or ruin his life for having to put his feelings aside for his "soulmate" just to save this guy they known for several months. It just doesn't feel genuine to me, no matter how they try to sugarcoat it. This is not even mentioning that she is knowingly not letting her kid be born in another timeline; if she was truly happy and loved her kid and husband then wouldn't she want that for the Naho in the other timeline. I mean Kakeru died, its been 10 years, you feel regret, but does everyone really have to uproot their lives for this. It seems like they haven't even thought of those implications or they did and don't care. Yes, it's a horrible plan. At the same time, those romantic things Future Naho advised are pretty much for her own wish fulfillment, but I don't think she ever told her past to date him. I guess it's just me, but her letters seem to emphasize on making Kakeru smile and be happy and being true to herself with him, to tell him how she feels in return and he may turn to her and tell her how he feels, not necessarily romantically. As I said, it's a strategy they concocted because they prefer to do it this way. As to setting Suwa aside, I'm also wondering if Future Suwa consented or not about what she wrote to her past. Now that Suwa also got a letter, isn't he at fault as well? He's clearly telling his past self to root for Naho and Kakeru or else past Suwa wouldn't act like that. As to Suwa killing himself, will he really? If in case he got a letter and his Future self told him about himself in the other timeline, is it characteristic of Suwa to kill himself? It's uncertain, yes. But it's also possible that he will not kill himself instead of Kakeru committing suicide because he's the kind of guy who would gladly step aside for someone else. In the end, Suwa deserves better, and if even with Kakeru alive, Naho still chooses him in the end, there's still hope that they're not ruining their future and their child's birth together. But in this timeline Suwa is better off without Naho then. If all he feels is regret and being second-best, this past timeline is also his way of getting a different future and feeling less inferior choice to Naho. But as I said before, it's horrible, and it's arrogant. They are gambling their own futures and child without thinking much of the consequences. In the end, they don't care if they are being judged if they are morally right or wrong. They are simply doing what they subjectively feel is right without knowing (and only hoping) that it will come true in another timeline. If that's all there is to it, then that's all there is to it. There's no sugarcoating in that. It's horrible and they're all horribly flawed for it. Still, we will see more in the future if something changes or not or some new info will re-evaluate some things. That's how I basically see it as a wish fulfillment thing for Naho. I also think Suwa wrote the letter of his own volition, but was influenced by the fact that he did it for Naho as well because he loves her. Given his record of giving up love for her to save his friend, I could see him going along with it in the future timeline even if he didn't want to because no matter who you are that would create feelings of inferiority. Naho definitely did orchestrate some romantic events though for the past Naho. Like I said before, why are these events necessary to even get closer to someone to save their life? The answer is they're not. It is just her own selfishness that and wish fulfillment to even mention romantic interactions and ways to take advantage of them that her present self did not know at the time. That is kind of selfish for me. Also the example I gave for Suwa was just stated to make a point that who is to say this wouldn't ruin present Suwa's timeline. Not that he will actually kill himself, but it could be such a life changing moment that it could ruin him even though he looks like he is fine doing it on the outside. That is just speculation, since we can't know how such an event could negatively impact someone. I'm sure if they go the Kakeru route in the anime, they will just gloss over it with a happy end for him when realistically the guy would probably be heartbroken especially knowing that he could have been married to and had a child with Naho that he is deeply in love with. That isn't something you just get over, but I am willing to bet if the anime goes the Kakeru route they will just ignore this and put a happy end to him. I think the premise was a good idea, but it was poorly executed because it seems too convoluted with the no romantic reasons for saving him with the romantic plot going on, but this is the writers fault anyways. |
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| That was a good ep. I still don't understand why Naho listened to Ueda in the first half, that was completely stupid... but well, I had the same issue with the manga. Second half was great, that talk was intense ! So far this anime is doing great, I hope it will stay that way |
| oh, the irony, Talking about regrets, i regret dropping this last week, that 2nd letter was unexpected, good enough to give it one more chance i shall thanks my friends that convinced me to watch this episode |
| "We could make the world better, but it's easier to just shut our eyes." ~Blackwall |
| I don't think this is badly written... the show is mainly about regret, losing opportunities and first love; not really about saving Kakeru. That might be the goal but it's not the theme of the series. If you remember we didn't actually know that Kakeru had committed suicide until now, just suspected it. Also I'm pretty sure future Naho didn't know exactly why Kakeru felt regret because she does state she *thinks* Kakeru has regrets about his mother... but she doesn't seem to know the exact details; most importantly tells present Naho to ask him about his mother suggesting that maybe future Naho *did not* ask and thus regret it. As for Suwa, it's really sad for him in the future and I'd like to think present Suwa isn't totally in love with Naho but just likes her to some extent. I'm guessing whoever sent the letter did not tell Suwa he marries Naho; that would be pretty traumatizing for him anyway. I kind of suspect future Suwa sent it as I doubt Naho would be *that* selfish. If that really is the case though I think he didn't consult Naho about it and he probably had his own selfish reasons for it as well, maybe he wanted to see if Naho would really choose *him* after all or whether she just ended up with him because she never got over Kakeru. It's possible that they don't know if this will change their future or not (which makes it worse) and actually we don't know either but since the timelines were mentioned I guess they will go that route. If they do know that it just changes another timeline then I guess this is just a small part of them wanting to erase part of their regret which in the end is kind of pointless. But if not then it's pretty selfish considering their child I guess o_o, ugh... Naho is partly doing this for selfish reasons; I don't even know the implications of sending a letter to the past but I suspect maybe she wouldn't have bothered if she hadn't actually had feelings for him. Though to be honest maybe it would have been a tiny bit more realistic if it had been like 3 years to the future and not 10 which makes it seem a bit melodramatic (with the baby too). I guess Naho generally has a hard time saying no and she was scared the to trouble the teachers so that was why she listened to Ueda. Even though Naho does seem selfish in the future generally she does seem like a nice person and relatable so I'm pretty much taking to her. |
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| I didn't like Azusa in Manga, but here, she is really charming. |
| Dub = fake crap. Always. |
Inori_is_love said: Ah this makes Orange a 100 times more interesting. I wonder if it was just Suwa or if all the friends received letters as well. THIS. first of 5/5 episide. still only a 7,5/10 anime so far |
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| I really love Suwa. He is so selfless that I bet that he is following his letter and not even hesitating to save Kakeru, even if it means that he has to see the girl he loves in the arms of his friend. I love how Suwa loves dearly his friends and does everything to their happiness. this story really hits me hard with the regret part. Im older than the majority of people in this website and are a lot of things in my past I just wish I'd done and didnt. I carry a lot of deep regrets with me and I wish I had a future letter to tell me, even if i wasnt able to change everything. In this case, seeing the pain that Kakeru's death brought to them...watching Kakeru smile and go on with his life when in fact he was suffering alone by himself...c'mon, who wouldnet feel remorse to go hang out with his friends and then find out his mom committed suicide precisely because he wasnt there? That is more than enough to make someone feel so guilty to the point of wishing to die. This anime really conveys an important message. |
ワンダーランド花 ♥ |
| A pretty good episode. I really liked how they handled the change of the atmosphere. It is a solid adaptation so far, but I am worried about the possibility of rushing it towards the end in order to cover more chapters. |
| Best episode so far. Didn't see the cliffhanger coming, but it wasn't really surprising either with how understanding Suwa was and how he saved Naho several times from Ueda. I just hope Suwa doesn't end up killing himself, he needs to be more selfish lol That scene with Kakeru and Naho on the bench made me cry a bit. |
| After reading the letter, whom does Kakeru loves, should be known to Naho. Also, why she didn't mention about his mom's suicide as a reason to not invite him. Both present and future Naho are same dumb and stupid. Kakeru saying 'even if he doesn't love her' in front of Suwa, pissed me off. So now I ignored their 'good mood' during fireworks as I don't care about them(character and interactions). So at last Naho read the whole letter!!! Naho taking the blame for herself, which is fitting seeing "With power comes responsibility". Knowing you can alleviate someone's regret but still not doing so, is your decision and your responsibility. Suwa got the letter too!! kind of shocked but after thinking for a while, it is to be expected that each one of them regretted unable to 'save' Kakeru. Maybe, Suwa's been supporting of NahoxKakeru due to his future-self telling that Naho only loved Kakeru and while 'baby-making' was superimposing Suwa's face with Kakeru!!!! |
| The feels man. :( Turns out Kakeru killed himself and Suwa got a letter as well. |
| I wish I could read Suwa's letters. I want to know his regrets, and how he feels about leaving Naho to Kakeru. Did he always regret it? So many questions. Good episode. |
| Okay like, when this first start, Suwa came off as a pretty cool guy, though a bit annoying, but like, he's the best freaking guy ever, gad dang it he is just such an amazing person. On the other hand, I knew those three mean girls were gonna try too pull some crap after last time, and I had this uncomfortable feeling in my gut the entire time up too when they finally showed up too mess things up. But Hagita also became more awesome this episode, despite the fact that all he really did was lie. Then I realized all this had happened and not even half the episode had passed. I just knew the rest of this was gonna be freaking great. And I was right for the most part, but oh wow, that cliff hanger. |
A Wild and Small Otaku has Appeared! |
| It was very convenient how Suwa popped up to tell Naho to go after Kakeru at the episode 4 or 5 so that's when I started speculating that he might have gotten letters as well. With that said..the selflessness on this man to do what's best for Naho and save Kakeru over him having a relationship and kid with her in the future is pretty amazing. I can't wait to see how things will develop from this point on and how will they try to stop Kakeru from killing himself. |
| My hate for Ueda just keeps on increasing. What a salty girl. That twist at the end though. I was not expecting that. Suwa is being a bro like always :) |
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witchhuntress said: But as I said before, it's horrible, and it's arrogant. They are gambling their own futures and child without thinking much of the consequences. In the end, they don't care if they are being judged if they are morally right or wrong. They are simply doing what they subjectively feel is right without knowing (and only hoping) that it will come true in another timeline. If that's all there is to it, then that's all there is to it. There's no sugarcoating in that. It's horrible and they're all horribly flawed for it. Still, we will see more in the future if something changes or not or some new info will re-evaluate some things. Yes, it doesn't feel geniune. This is pretty much the other half of what I was trying to say. Thanks for putting it into words so well!! |
| WTF WAS THAT ENDING! YOU CAN'T LEAVE ME HANGING LIKE THAT, JESUS! |
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| She didn't read any further...you know, there's dense and then there's mentally challenged. I'll cry for Suwa if he gets bad end. Those stock bullies are so stereotype it's fun. |
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| How can this two be so dense? with their not dating but obviously teasing questions. I think characters actions are the weak point of this show. it also doesn't make much sense that naho isn't reading ahead given that she knows there is an accident and that future naho doesn't mention the implications of not following the first imperative instruction that starts everything off. Anyways this anime is still super underrated. It has the charm of a shoujo anime mixed with some intrigue and mystery which i welcome. |
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Danae said: A pretty good episode. I really liked how they handled the change of the atmosphere. It is a solid adaptation so far, but I am worried about the possibility of rushing it towards the end in order to cover more chapters. I actually counted the chapters and the remaining episodes we have left. We have 7 more episodes and 14 more chapters. They can fit all of them in easy. Though I think I would like it more if they adapt chapter 19 into one whole episode |
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