Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
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Jul 5, 2016 9:21 PM
#701
ReaperX- said: he kinda redeemed himself with that reaction at the endSubaru is pissing me the fuck off. He's being way to selfish. Something's got to happen to fix his personality, quick. |
You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain -Harvey Dent |
Jul 5, 2016 11:05 PM
#702
AniTravlr said: ReaperX- said: he kinda redeemed himself with that reaction at the endSubaru is pissing me the fuck off. He's being way to selfish. Something's got to happen to fix his personality, quick. Not really? One second of being scared at bunch of dead bodies does not excuse acting like self entitled privileged dick for three episodes. |
Jul 5, 2016 11:50 PM
#703
siradix said: I do like how long it took him to register that the entire town was killed. It shows that his deaths are starting to deaden him to even the sight of it. It won't be too long before the sight of a friend's dead body won't even phase him. That's how you interpret it? I'm sorry to break it to you, but it's quite the contrary: what he sees is so shocking and unbelievable to him that his mind goes into denial and refuses to register it. He hasn't grown numb from seeing death, but once he accepts the reality of what's happened, he will be broken mentally. |
Jul 6, 2016 12:13 AM
#704
FononZero said: Kirigiri50 said: Judgment526 said: QWERTYFish25 said: FononZero said: Kirigiri50 said: I am curious who manage to destroy Roswald mansion Must be the servanst of the witch man they really made mess out of everyone there. Well at least this should teach Subaru to stop being so arrogant,obssessive and naive. Now he should realy on people to help him instead of thinking he can do everything himself. Hope this moron learn his lesson next episode. According to Ram, Roswaal is the strongest magic user in all of Lugnica.... So that's very interesting if they could take him down (along with Emilia, Puck, Ram, Rem, and Beatrice).... I don't even think they are that strong since in the OP, it shows Rem fighting like 10 of them at one time. To me, it just seems really weird. Strong or not a collection of near ranking magic users may be able to take him down. That or, you know, he somehow has a hand in it all. And then there's the possibility of him not being present at the mansion at all. I'm fairly certain he would wipe the floor with those cultists if he were. I think that Roswald got something to do with those cultist killing everybody at his mansion I don t think that those cultist could defeat Roswald,Emilia,Pluck,rem,ram and everyone there for the looks of it seems like curb stomp battle too me! I think there is conspiracy going on with these situation. I got feel that Roswald is not good guy I think he is neutral wild card guy he is up too something and have his own agenda I suspect he is behind this. There certainly are a lot of questionable things about Roswaal... Another thing that I found strange is that there was a pile of burnt bodies. While I realize that there is more than one fire user, we so far only know of one magic user that can use fire. nightcrawlercyp said: well the witch is dead no? or at least unable to use her powers? I don't believe so... Beatrice said that the witch is unable to be weakened or even die. And the fact that she can cast shinimodri upon Subaru and leave her scent, shows that she can still use her powers. Roswaal is definitely not a good guy. We still do not know how all fits together but we know he manipulated at least some events (like Ram losing her horn) to achieve his goals. About the witch I was under the impression her powers were sealed by the dragon and two humans. |
Jul 6, 2016 12:56 AM
#705
Red_Ranger_Wien said: exLightning said: Red_Ranger_Wien said: 3) People watch stuff they don't like all the time. It's called being a critic. Well-rounded people don't live in an echo chamber where only things they like are allowed. I'm sorry so because I only watch anime I enjoy I'm not well rounded and I'm in an Echo chamber? Last time I checked it's normal to not watch stuff you don't enjoy. Echo chamber might have been a bit much but yes, as far as media is concerned, only watching things you like means you aren't well rounded when it comes to judging it. After all, if you never watch anything bad how would you know if something is good? So you meant as a critic which I can understand but even then... Screw it why am I writing this it's completely pointless, Gonna do other stuff ciao~~ |
Jul 6, 2016 2:08 AM
#706
Subaru probably has a particular background when he feel he was a useless person before he came to this world and when he gained the ability he felt that he can be useful and somehow that makes him too conceited. I am very curious how he could deal with this problem |
Jul 6, 2016 2:22 AM
#707
TriZen said: Subaru probably has a particular background when he feel he was a useless person before he came to this world and when he gained the ability he felt that he can be useful and somehow that makes him too conceited. I am very curious how he could deal with this problem What he says is not entirely wrong. The problem is the way he's approaching it. "I am the only one who can do something about her, she's clueless without me, only I can do something to protect her, she'll die alone". That's very conceited, and it insults her very much. Also, he is surrounded by a lot of people who can all do better than him when it comes to power/strength. |
Jul 6, 2016 2:48 AM
#708
Jul 6, 2016 3:06 AM
#709
Fai said: AniTravlr said: ReaperX- said: Subaru is pissing me the fuck off. He's being way to selfish. Something's got to happen to fix his personality, quick. Not really? One second of being scared at bunch of dead bodies does not excuse acting like self entitled privileged dick for three episodes. A whole lot more than three episodes. More like 3/4 of the episodes out so far. While he wasn't as bad as he is now, at the start he was more selfish along the lines of thinking he was an MC straight out of a manga or something. That selfishness grew and grew though to the repulsive attitude he has now. Which is a shame because around episode 9 or 10? he was actually growing to be a likable character and then ruined it 3 episodes later. Kid has a whole lot of catching up to do in the 'growth' of his character. It seems like finally the next episode should be the episode to do it (hopefully). They've got to start now since we're a little past the midpoint of the season. I'd rather see him slowly change bit by bit versus rushing it all in a few episodes towards the end. I don't really appreciate the way they destroyed his progress at the Royal Election Meeting either. It seemed really out of character and forced to have Subaru get so flustered and angry over a remark made by a guy he hardly talked to beforehand. Usually he was somewhat silly and would always give a witty remark, but suddenly all of that became absent during that scene. |
Touch me, you filthy casual~ |
Jul 6, 2016 3:44 AM
#710
Ragix said: Fai said: AniTravlr said: ReaperX- said: he kinda redeemed himself with that reaction at the endSubaru is pissing me the fuck off. He's being way to selfish. Something's got to happen to fix his personality, quick. Not really? One second of being scared at bunch of dead bodies does not excuse acting like self entitled privileged dick for three episodes. A whole lot more than three episodes. More like 3/4 of the episodes out so far. While he wasn't as bad as he is now, at the start he was more selfish along the lines of thinking he was an MC straight out of a manga or something. That selfishness grew and grew though to the repulsive attitude he has now. Which is a shame because around episode 9 or 10? he was actually growing to be a likable character and then ruined it 3 episodes later. Kid has a whole lot of catching up to do in the 'growth' of his character. It seems like finally the next episode should be the episode to do it (hopefully). They've got to start now since we're a little past the midpoint of the season. I'd rather see him slowly change bit by bit versus rushing it all in a few episodes towards the end. I don't really appreciate the way they destroyed his progress at the Royal Election Meeting either. It seemed really out of character and forced to have Subaru get so flustered and angry over a remark made by a guy he hardly talked to beforehand. Usually he was somewhat silly and would always give a witty remark, but suddenly all of that became absent during that scene. Except that Arc2 displays him actually being completely selfless and helping people. He started that way in the first arc but arc 2 was all about him evolving past that and accepting reality. How is forfeiting your survival and jumping off the cliff to save others selfish? He has far since evolved from being how he was at the start of Arc 1. Which is why this arc is completely and utterly confusing. Suddenly he is acting as even more privileged selfish prick as if arc2 never happened(and even worse than arc1). And he already managed to goof up A LOT of things, way more than getting scared at village being murdered can redeem. |
AhenshihaelJul 6, 2016 3:55 AM
Jul 6, 2016 3:58 AM
#711
Fai said: Ragix said: Fai said: AniTravlr said: ReaperX- said: he kinda redeemed himself with that reaction at the endSubaru is pissing me the fuck off. He's being way to selfish. Something's got to happen to fix his personality, quick. Not really? One second of being scared at bunch of dead bodies does not excuse acting like self entitled privileged dick for three episodes. A whole lot more than three episodes. More like 3/4 of the episodes out so far. While he wasn't as bad as he is now, at the start he was more selfish along the lines of thinking he was an MC straight out of a manga or something. That selfishness grew and grew though to the repulsive attitude he has now. Which is a shame because around episode 9 or 10? he was actually growing to be a likable character and then ruined it 3 episodes later. Kid has a whole lot of catching up to do in the 'growth' of his character. It seems like finally the next episode should be the episode to do it (hopefully). They've got to start now since we're a little past the midpoint of the season. I'd rather see him slowly change bit by bit versus rushing it all in a few episodes towards the end. I don't really appreciate the way they destroyed his progress at the Royal Election Meeting either. It seemed really out of character and forced to have Subaru get so flustered and angry over a remark made by a guy he hardly talked to beforehand. Usually he was somewhat silly and would always give a witty remark, but suddenly all of that became absent during that scene. Except that Arc2 displays him actually being completely selfless and helping people. He started that way in the first arc but arc 2 was all about him evolving past that and accepting reality. How is forfeiting your survival and jumping off the cliff to save others selfish? He has far since evolved from being how he was at the start of Arc 1. Which is why this arc is completely and utterly confusing. That's what I was referring to with a few those episodes where he was becoming a better character (although I guess I must've been off by what number episodes). He became a more dependable and likable character over time and not all at once, which is why I don't give him credit for being selfless for that whole arc since it took a bit; however, he just threw all of that out with this current arc by just getting more and more twisted by the minute. Maybe the LN illustrates it better, but again, it seemed really strange for him to conveniently be out of character for that Royal Election Scene. Subaru had only talked to the guy for a minute tops beforehand and yet for some reason this 'rival' brought him to the brink of insanity. |
Touch me, you filthy casual~ |
Jul 6, 2016 3:58 AM
#712
Ragix said: I don't really appreciate the way they destroyed his progress at the Royal Election Meeting either. It seemed really out of character and forced to have Subaru get so flustered and angry over a remark made by a guy he hardly talked to beforehand. Usually he was somewhat silly and would always give a witty remark, but suddenly all of that became absent during that scene. I don't think it was that forced or out-of-character. He has acted this way the whole time. He has always adamantly stated his beliefs throughout the entire series despite the lack of knowledge he has about other people / things. The only difference now is that someone is also adamantly trying to contradict those same beliefs. If no one had denied him of being a knight, it would have just been another "funny" scene. But now that he has some opposition, things are ending up a lot different. Add that with the fact that his mind has been going downhill for some time now, and you have the Subaru that you see in these current episodes. |
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Jul 6, 2016 4:13 AM
#713
Ragix said: Fai said: Ragix said: Fai said: AniTravlr said: ReaperX- said: he kinda redeemed himself with that reaction at the endSubaru is pissing me the fuck off. He's being way to selfish. Something's got to happen to fix his personality, quick. Not really? One second of being scared at bunch of dead bodies does not excuse acting like self entitled privileged dick for three episodes. A whole lot more than three episodes. More like 3/4 of the episodes out so far. While he wasn't as bad as he is now, at the start he was more selfish along the lines of thinking he was an MC straight out of a manga or something. That selfishness grew and grew though to the repulsive attitude he has now. Which is a shame because around episode 9 or 10? he was actually growing to be a likable character and then ruined it 3 episodes later. Kid has a whole lot of catching up to do in the 'growth' of his character. It seems like finally the next episode should be the episode to do it (hopefully). They've got to start now since we're a little past the midpoint of the season. I'd rather see him slowly change bit by bit versus rushing it all in a few episodes towards the end. I don't really appreciate the way they destroyed his progress at the Royal Election Meeting either. It seemed really out of character and forced to have Subaru get so flustered and angry over a remark made by a guy he hardly talked to beforehand. Usually he was somewhat silly and would always give a witty remark, but suddenly all of that became absent during that scene. Except that Arc2 displays him actually being completely selfless and helping people. He started that way in the first arc but arc 2 was all about him evolving past that and accepting reality. How is forfeiting your survival and jumping off the cliff to save others selfish? He has far since evolved from being how he was at the start of Arc 1. Which is why this arc is completely and utterly confusing. That's what I was referring to with a few those episodes where he was becoming a better character (although I guess I must've been off by what number episodes). He became a more dependable and likable character over time and not all at once, which is why I don't give him credit for being selfless for that whole arc since it took a bit; however, he just threw all of that out with this current arc by just getting more and more twisted by the minute. Maybe the LN illustrates it better, but again, it seemed really strange for him to conveniently be out of character for that Royal Election Scene. Subaru had only talked to the guy for a minute tops beforehand and yet for some reason this 'rival' brought him to the brink of insanity. Frankly if arc 1 and arc 2 did not exist, it could be a decent deconstruction(gods I hate that term) of LN stuff - instead of having godly gary stu, you have a entitled mr nice guy mra scumbag who only thinks he is the best thing out there. The problem is, obviously that it completely goes against how we already saw him develop through in arc 2. Yet show somehow forgot what happened in the last two arcs and has Subaru be this unrepentant repulsive prick who just refuses to learn and keeps on digging. What's more the whole harem collecting aspect going on in this arc with candidacy waifus and all that stuff is just jarring. The whole arc feels disjointed and poorly put together. FononZero said: Add that with the fact that his mind has been going downhill for some time now, and you have the Subaru that you see in these current episodes. Show does not show that. The last time we saw him under mental stress was Arc 2. His psychological issues not being explored is another strange thing about this arc. |
AhenshihaelJul 6, 2016 4:33 AM
Jul 6, 2016 4:49 AM
#714
Fai said: Show does not show that. The last time we saw him under mental stress was Arc 2. His psychological issues not being explored is another strange thing about this arc. The only reason he was okay after episode 8 was because Emilia reeled him (his sanity) back in. That is why he is OK in arc 3.... until he is denied of being worthy of Emilia and Emilia rejects him. |
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Jul 6, 2016 5:59 AM
#715
the first opening was better, i usually skip openings after i see them the first time but i watched that first opening every episode it was in, this new opening however, meh. Subarau realized that if he has a problem he can just die to fix things, i guess willhelm noticed that he no longer wishes to get stronger. that village at the end FUCKING REKT |
"My name is Yoshikage Kira. I'm 33 years old. My house is in the northeast section of Morioh, where the villas are, and i am not married. I work as an employee for the Kame Yu department stores, and i get home every day by 8 PM at the latest. I don't smoke, but i occasionally drink. I'm in bed by 11 PM, and make sure I get 8 hours of sleep, no matter what. After having a glass of warm milk and doing about twenty minutes of stretches before going to bed, I usually have no problems sleeping until morning. Just like a baby, I wake up without any fatigue or stress in the morning. I was told there were no issues at my last checkup." |
Jul 6, 2016 6:10 AM
#716
Jul 6, 2016 6:19 AM
#717
Jul 6, 2016 6:53 AM
#718
Fai said: Ragix said: Fai said: AniTravlr said: ReaperX- said: he kinda redeemed himself with that reaction at the endSubaru is pissing me the fuck off. He's being way to selfish. Something's got to happen to fix his personality, quick. Not really? One second of being scared at bunch of dead bodies does not excuse acting like self entitled privileged dick for three episodes. A whole lot more than three episodes. More like 3/4 of the episodes out so far. While he wasn't as bad as he is now, at the start he was more selfish along the lines of thinking he was an MC straight out of a manga or something. That selfishness grew and grew though to the repulsive attitude he has now. Which is a shame because around episode 9 or 10? he was actually growing to be a likable character and then ruined it 3 episodes later. Kid has a whole lot of catching up to do in the 'growth' of his character. It seems like finally the next episode should be the episode to do it (hopefully). They've got to start now since we're a little past the midpoint of the season. I'd rather see him slowly change bit by bit versus rushing it all in a few episodes towards the end. I don't really appreciate the way they destroyed his progress at the Royal Election Meeting either. It seemed really out of character and forced to have Subaru get so flustered and angry over a remark made by a guy he hardly talked to beforehand. Usually he was somewhat silly and would always give a witty remark, but suddenly all of that became absent during that scene. Except that Arc2 displays him actually being completely selfless and helping people. He started that way in the first arc but arc 2 was all about him evolving past that and accepting reality. How is forfeiting your survival and jumping off the cliff to save others selfish? He has far since evolved from being how he was at the start of Arc 1. Which is why this arc is completely and utterly confusing. Suddenly he is acting as even more privileged selfish prick as if arc2 never happened(and even worse than arc1). And he already managed to goof up A LOT of things, way more than getting scared at village being murdered can redeem. The problem is that the selfless act of suicide in order to save Rem in episode 7 is selfish in itself. You'll understand soon enough. |
Jul 6, 2016 7:22 AM
#719
Judgment526 said: That's how you interpret it? I'm sorry to break it to you, but it's quite the contrary: what he sees is so shocking and unbelievable to him that his mind goes into denial and refuses to register it. He hasn't grown numb from seeing death, but once he accepts the reality of what's happened, he will be broken mentally. It isn't something you need to be sorry about. If that's the way the story will go, that's the way it will go. |
Jul 6, 2016 8:34 AM
#720
Great episode, worthy follow up to last week. Subaru remembering all of the stupid stuff he screamed at Emilia while butler man beats the hell out of him was real as fuck. I had kind of forgotten he was staying with Crusch but his talk with her this week was a great deepening of her character. Even more so at the end, when she's real with Subaru that their relationship is just business. I'm liking Felis more and more too. He seems to know what's going on, and Subaru should stop being an edgelord and listen to him. Hardly a criticism of the episode, but Subaru was so god damn annoying just throughout this episode. The cringe was too strong, especially in the scene where he tells Crusch and Felis to go screw because he's riding out to the mansion no matter what. I get it's the point and he has to learn his lesson but god how irritating. The real MVP of this episode was Rem. She did her best to help Subaru, while still tip toeing around his shattered feelings. Their scene in the inn was hella sweet. I don't know if she's dead (If she is she probably won't be for long) but that ending was great gave me the chills. Loved the new OP, still hate the land dragons or whatever cgi monstrosities are pulling those carts. I also thought the scene where Subaru ran into the magical KKK was super awkward. Just like...kept running...and kind of a shittily animated run too. They've just been going and going some slack is to be expected. |
Jul 6, 2016 9:02 AM
#721
Fai said: Ragix said: Fai said: Ragix said: Fai said: AniTravlr said: ReaperX- said: he kinda redeemed himself with that reaction at the endSubaru is pissing me the fuck off. He's being way to selfish. Something's got to happen to fix his personality, quick. Not really? One second of being scared at bunch of dead bodies does not excuse acting like self entitled privileged dick for three episodes. A whole lot more than three episodes. More like 3/4 of the episodes out so far. While he wasn't as bad as he is now, at the start he was more selfish along the lines of thinking he was an MC straight out of a manga or something. That selfishness grew and grew though to the repulsive attitude he has now. Which is a shame because around episode 9 or 10? he was actually growing to be a likable character and then ruined it 3 episodes later. Kid has a whole lot of catching up to do in the 'growth' of his character. It seems like finally the next episode should be the episode to do it (hopefully). They've got to start now since we're a little past the midpoint of the season. I'd rather see him slowly change bit by bit versus rushing it all in a few episodes towards the end. I don't really appreciate the way they destroyed his progress at the Royal Election Meeting either. It seemed really out of character and forced to have Subaru get so flustered and angry over a remark made by a guy he hardly talked to beforehand. Usually he was somewhat silly and would always give a witty remark, but suddenly all of that became absent during that scene. Except that Arc2 displays him actually being completely selfless and helping people. He started that way in the first arc but arc 2 was all about him evolving past that and accepting reality. How is forfeiting your survival and jumping off the cliff to save others selfish? He has far since evolved from being how he was at the start of Arc 1. Which is why this arc is completely and utterly confusing. That's what I was referring to with a few those episodes where he was becoming a better character (although I guess I must've been off by what number episodes). He became a more dependable and likable character over time and not all at once, which is why I don't give him credit for being selfless for that whole arc since it took a bit; however, he just threw all of that out with this current arc by just getting more and more twisted by the minute. Maybe the LN illustrates it better, but again, it seemed really strange for him to conveniently be out of character for that Royal Election Scene. Subaru had only talked to the guy for a minute tops beforehand and yet for some reason this 'rival' brought him to the brink of insanity. Frankly if arc 1 and arc 2 did not exist, it could be a decent deconstruction(gods I hate that term) of LN stuff - instead of having godly gary stu, you have a entitled mr nice guy mra scumbag who only thinks he is the best thing out there. The problem is, obviously that it completely goes against how we already saw him develop through in arc 2. Yet show somehow forgot what happened in the last two arcs and has Subaru be this unrepentant repulsive prick who just refuses to learn and keeps on digging. What's more the whole harem collecting aspect going on in this arc with candidacy waifus and all that stuff is just jarring. The whole arc feels disjointed and poorly put together. I don't understand where you even get the notion that there's any "harem collecting" going on? Because the candidates are all female? Like....really? |
Jul 6, 2016 9:04 AM
#722
Judgment526 said: Fai said: Ragix said: Fai said: Ragix said: Fai said: AniTravlr said: ReaperX- said: he kinda redeemed himself with that reaction at the endSubaru is pissing me the fuck off. He's being way to selfish. Something's got to happen to fix his personality, quick. Not really? One second of being scared at bunch of dead bodies does not excuse acting like self entitled privileged dick for three episodes. A whole lot more than three episodes. More like 3/4 of the episodes out so far. While he wasn't as bad as he is now, at the start he was more selfish along the lines of thinking he was an MC straight out of a manga or something. That selfishness grew and grew though to the repulsive attitude he has now. Which is a shame because around episode 9 or 10? he was actually growing to be a likable character and then ruined it 3 episodes later. Kid has a whole lot of catching up to do in the 'growth' of his character. It seems like finally the next episode should be the episode to do it (hopefully). They've got to start now since we're a little past the midpoint of the season. I'd rather see him slowly change bit by bit versus rushing it all in a few episodes towards the end. I don't really appreciate the way they destroyed his progress at the Royal Election Meeting either. It seemed really out of character and forced to have Subaru get so flustered and angry over a remark made by a guy he hardly talked to beforehand. Usually he was somewhat silly and would always give a witty remark, but suddenly all of that became absent during that scene. Except that Arc2 displays him actually being completely selfless and helping people. He started that way in the first arc but arc 2 was all about him evolving past that and accepting reality. How is forfeiting your survival and jumping off the cliff to save others selfish? He has far since evolved from being how he was at the start of Arc 1. Which is why this arc is completely and utterly confusing. That's what I was referring to with a few those episodes where he was becoming a better character (although I guess I must've been off by what number episodes). He became a more dependable and likable character over time and not all at once, which is why I don't give him credit for being selfless for that whole arc since it took a bit; however, he just threw all of that out with this current arc by just getting more and more twisted by the minute. Maybe the LN illustrates it better, but again, it seemed really strange for him to conveniently be out of character for that Royal Election Scene. Subaru had only talked to the guy for a minute tops beforehand and yet for some reason this 'rival' brought him to the brink of insanity. Frankly if arc 1 and arc 2 did not exist, it could be a decent deconstruction(gods I hate that term) of LN stuff - instead of having godly gary stu, you have a entitled mr nice guy mra scumbag who only thinks he is the best thing out there. The problem is, obviously that it completely goes against how we already saw him develop through in arc 2. Yet show somehow forgot what happened in the last two arcs and has Subaru be this unrepentant repulsive prick who just refuses to learn and keeps on digging. What's more the whole harem collecting aspect going on in this arc with candidacy waifus and all that stuff is just jarring. The whole arc feels disjointed and poorly put together. I don't understand where you even get the notion that there's any "harem collecting" going on? Because the candidates are all female? Like....really? 4 out of 5 interacted and flirted with MC. And yes all candidates being conveniently female also plays out into that(let's not forget to bring up that they need to marry since they are female!). Alongside growing interactions with Rem(which I would be happy with if it was "Ep11 and before" Subaru and not this creepy scumbag). The intent is clear. |
Jul 6, 2016 9:33 AM
#723
Fai said: Judgment526 said: Fai said: Ragix said: Fai said: Ragix said: Fai said: AniTravlr said: ReaperX- said: he kinda redeemed himself with that reaction at the endSubaru is pissing me the fuck off. He's being way to selfish. Something's got to happen to fix his personality, quick. Not really? One second of being scared at bunch of dead bodies does not excuse acting like self entitled privileged dick for three episodes. A whole lot more than three episodes. More like 3/4 of the episodes out so far. While he wasn't as bad as he is now, at the start he was more selfish along the lines of thinking he was an MC straight out of a manga or something. That selfishness grew and grew though to the repulsive attitude he has now. Which is a shame because around episode 9 or 10? he was actually growing to be a likable character and then ruined it 3 episodes later. Kid has a whole lot of catching up to do in the 'growth' of his character. It seems like finally the next episode should be the episode to do it (hopefully). They've got to start now since we're a little past the midpoint of the season. I'd rather see him slowly change bit by bit versus rushing it all in a few episodes towards the end. I don't really appreciate the way they destroyed his progress at the Royal Election Meeting either. It seemed really out of character and forced to have Subaru get so flustered and angry over a remark made by a guy he hardly talked to beforehand. Usually he was somewhat silly and would always give a witty remark, but suddenly all of that became absent during that scene. Except that Arc2 displays him actually being completely selfless and helping people. He started that way in the first arc but arc 2 was all about him evolving past that and accepting reality. How is forfeiting your survival and jumping off the cliff to save others selfish? He has far since evolved from being how he was at the start of Arc 1. Which is why this arc is completely and utterly confusing. That's what I was referring to with a few those episodes where he was becoming a better character (although I guess I must've been off by what number episodes). He became a more dependable and likable character over time and not all at once, which is why I don't give him credit for being selfless for that whole arc since it took a bit; however, he just threw all of that out with this current arc by just getting more and more twisted by the minute. Maybe the LN illustrates it better, but again, it seemed really strange for him to conveniently be out of character for that Royal Election Scene. Subaru had only talked to the guy for a minute tops beforehand and yet for some reason this 'rival' brought him to the brink of insanity. Frankly if arc 1 and arc 2 did not exist, it could be a decent deconstruction(gods I hate that term) of LN stuff - instead of having godly gary stu, you have a entitled mr nice guy mra scumbag who only thinks he is the best thing out there. The problem is, obviously that it completely goes against how we already saw him develop through in arc 2. Yet show somehow forgot what happened in the last two arcs and has Subaru be this unrepentant repulsive prick who just refuses to learn and keeps on digging. What's more the whole harem collecting aspect going on in this arc with candidacy waifus and all that stuff is just jarring. The whole arc feels disjointed and poorly put together. I don't understand where you even get the notion that there's any "harem collecting" going on? Because the candidates are all female? Like....really? 4 out of 5 interacted and flirted with MC. And yes all candidates being conveniently female also plays out into that(let's not forget to bring up that they need to marry since they are female!). Alongside growing interactions with Rem(which I would be happy with if it was "Ep11 and before" Subaru and not this creepy scumbag). The intent is clear. Less harem collecting and more like pandering, dude. I'm not so sure how it's so hard for you to believe that this Subaru for Arc 3 isn't the same one as before. It seems like in your mind you already had this "whole" idea of how you thought Subaru was and when he acts against that you lash out and go "wtf ooc" You have some good points but the weirdest thing you said was when Subaru started getting angry when they were discriminating about Emilia. Emilia in the first loop told him Half Elves aren't looked good on upon but he wa slike "well w/e I accept u". But it's different hearing about racism and actually seeing it and experiencing it. I mean that's pretty basic stuff. I feel bad when I read about racism in history books but I'm sure as hell not gonna sit idly by when someone does it irl. No offense, man, but do you actually go outside and interact with people? I know many people who seemed nice and selfless like Subaru but then one day I saw a darker side of them that was selfish. Or people who seem all perfect and all that but if you combat them on a specific issue they crumble apart and start getting all defensive and angry. All I see here is that you're mad because Subaru isn't acting the way you want him to or how you thought he was. Subaru was always kind of a dick. I guess people just sidelooked because it was "comedic" I mean he called Old Man Rom ugly, Reinhard a monster, he denied Roswall and was overall too casual with him, was creepy towards Rem and Ram at first My beef with Subaru's character now is that I feel like they could have foreshadowed this side of him better since I can see people thinking it came out of nowhere or it was a "change" to his character. |
Jul 6, 2016 9:48 AM
#724
What an amazing episode! The poor dude can't take much more. R.I.P. Rem. I hope he has a good respawn point so he can save her. |
Jul 6, 2016 9:56 AM
#725
Yuzuryn said: Subaru was always kind of a dick. I guess people just sidelooked because it was "comedic" Exactly. Did people forget that scene where he would rather help Emilia and continue his search for Felt than to help Apple vendor's lost child in episode 1? I always thought it was quite dickish of him when Subaru suggested to ignore the child. |
Jul 6, 2016 11:36 AM
#726
I don't think it can go on any longer with the way things are going. He should kill himself and hopefully he'll wake up at a new save point somewhere before the selections. Up until the selections everything was okay but he seriously messed up after that. |
Jul 6, 2016 11:38 AM
#727
SHOU_1 said: I don't think it can go on any longer with the way things are going. He should kill himself and hopefully he'll wake up at a new save point somewhere before the selections. Up until the selections everything was okay but he seriously messed up after that. No way it's gonna be before the selections. If it is, the anime will drop a good 2-3 points for me. Why cause all this ''drama'' with Emilia/Subaru just to brush it off? Obviously it's gonna be after the selections, before Rem leaves him (She's way too often in the opening to stay dead). |
Jul 6, 2016 11:49 AM
#728
Jagd84 said: Whether you want to what Suabru tested like this or not is irrelevant. It's like complaining about why Guts in Berserk had lose all his friends and family to demons and suffer through period of isolation where he mostly nothing but just a selfish asshole until he developed from his hardships into a better person as he struggled with his own flaws and cruel destiny. It's all for development of Subaru's character. He has to gradually face his own flaws and insecurities to come to terms with himself. Do I look like a Berserk fan to you? If don't like your welcome to drop the show. I'll pass. |
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Jul 6, 2016 12:42 PM
#729
iRels said: AmejiHunter said: Tony_SansNom said: iRels said: markeus said: Man, this anime is just getting worse and worse. It tries so hard and just falls flat on so many levels: the animation, characterization, voice acting, story-line, music, the list goes on and on. If they were trying to portray Subaru as a 'realistic' character they just failed really bad. I doubt anybody suddenly transported to a fantasy world would have such disregard for their previous life as Subaru. I just seriously doubt it. Hell, it's almost as if he's lived there his entire life. His ability to recover from multiple traumatic experiences is also amazing. Even though hes practically a teenager, what would give a normal adult PTSD and uncontrollable mental breakdowns is just another day in the park for him. For example, Rem brutally kills him in a previous episode for basically no good reason, but Subaru's reaction is just so damn underwhelming it's like he's some robot. The animation and voice acting are also very poor when they needed to be the strongest. I don't know this show's budget, but some of the cuts are so horrendously drawn you'd think they drew them in their free-time. Can't forget about the Naruto-tier voice acting. Subaru's voice is getting increasingly more annoying. His voice gets raspy and deep to deliver even the most casual of lines it has gotten to the point where, for me, it downplays all of the show's serious moments. For a show that seems to want to take itself seriously, the characterization(and characters in general) rivals that/those of a low-budget romcom anime. Stupid loli who tries to act mature(Felt), condescending maids(Rem and Ram),'patron of justice'/part-time mom to Subaru(Emilia), and the creepy, elusive(also really damn useless) magician who looks and sounds like he's an identity crisis(Roswald). Oh yeah, they even threw in a trap in there to really seal the deal. Subari himself is nothing more than a black haired Naruto and is your typical shounen character This episode really just did me in. Absolutely 0 improvement from the problems this show was already suffering from. Rem's death seems like a curve ball thrown in there just to bring in people's interest again but will ultimately lead to nothing(just like Charlotte). Wouldn't be surprised if by the time the LN is over everybody is alive again and they all live happily ever after. What a joke of a series and I'm dropping it 4/10 Much stupidity. facepalms I wouldn't even reply to someone who would give FMA a 10/10. And One Piece a 7/10, the horrendous OVA of Noblesse a 9... Amagi brillant parc and Angel beats a 8... yet give re:zero a 4/10???? What the hell is going on in ths world... (Talking about irels) He gave 8 to Steins;Gate. I was like ''oh okay it might not be really his type of anime'' and then he gave 8 to Mirai Nikki. According to this guy, Mirai Nikki and Steins;Gate are on the same level. That's pretty funny :^) I'm not type to judge others according to their anime list, because mine is only based on enjoyment, but that's a complete joke. It's been long that I made that list and gave those scores. It's actually 3 years ago. And I scored based on what I felt about the shows. Enjoyment was at the same level, so I gave same scores. But yeah, I didn't think that much of Steins;Gate. Perhaps I should rewatch sometime. My impression could change... But you see, I gave 9 to Afro Samurai and Psycho-Pass. Those were 'great' to me. This guy thou, is ridiculous. Giving a 4/10. Why'd you even watch what you'd score so low? Such shows I wouldn't even bother to put on a list. ... To SAO I'd give 7. But my personal grudge against it makes want to give it a 6. the protagonist is such a shameless wish fulfillment. But I've dropped at ep 8, when it became clear where it was going... eh. Anyway. OOOOOOOOH. I'm actually terribly sorry, I clicked on your name instead on the other guy's name ( markeus ). I was actually confused when I saw you gave Re: a 9 on your list, and that Amagi brillaint wasn't on the list as Tony_SansNom said. I thought you were the one he was talking about, didn't see the spoiler thing from markeus. Yea, sorry for almost insulting you then. My mistake, haha. |
Jul 6, 2016 1:27 PM
#730
Tony_SansNom said: TriZen said: Subaru probably has a particular background when he feel he was a useless person before he came to this world and when he gained the ability he felt that he can be useful and somehow that makes him too conceited. I am very curious how he could deal with this problem What he says is not entirely wrong. The problem is the way he's approaching it. "I am the only one who can do something about her, she's clueless without me, only I can do something to protect her, she'll die alone". That's very conceited, and it insults her very much. Also, he is surrounded by a lot of people who can all do better than him when it comes to power/strength. Yes those other people might be stronger/smarter, but that didn't stop Emila, rom and felt from being killed by Elsa or the villagers and Rem from dying to the mabeasts. When Subaru says "I'm the only who who can protect her" you can't ignore the truth from that statement; without his return by death Emilia would be dead as dead, that's the reality that Subaru believes in. Obviously he's taking it too far but that's probably due to his mental state and the frustration that not being able to tell anyone about it brings |
Q: The world won't change, you must change yourself in this world. Now, how will you change yourself? A: Become the god of the new world. |
Jul 6, 2016 1:56 PM
#731
Ehemm...hold on a sec, i'm still suprise with that ending... overall, it was another madness and a little bit cringe episode. i don't know what to say other than subaru being stupid again in this episode. although i didn't expect a character development between Subaru and the other candidates, felis and HIS master. and i feel bad for rem cause it looked like subaru was bothering her all of the time to me even tho she didn't even bother it at all. Rem tried to protect him and he thought Rem thought he was a good for nothing guy, and useless guy, and that was the reason why rem left him behind....seriously, i don't even....this guy is beyond saved seriously lol. let's put that aside for now, that ending, that freaking ending, i mean before rem (i spoiled myself that rem died in this episode) but that village scene, the scene where you can see a pile of burnt corpse, moreover they showed all of that after the appearence of those sinister, creepy and scary bunch of guys. holy shit it gave me a big chill, lol i even almost jumped from my chair when they suddenly showed up. but that village scene, especially that burnt pile of corpse, if you thought one of the childer was inside of that pile of corpse........feels sick isn't it ? following rem's death after that. makes it more sick or more life madness or despair. i wonder what happen on emilia, ram and rosswal. probably subaru will die in the next episode ? anyway, i'm looking foward for the next episode :D and btw, op song and visual looks freaking amazing. i really like that a lot as i like the first opening song and visual :D |
Jul 6, 2016 2:35 PM
#732
Jul 6, 2016 5:35 PM
#733
Z4k said: Yuzuryn said: Subaru was always kind of a dick. I guess people just sidelooked because it was "comedic" Exactly. Did people forget that scene where he would rather help Emilia and continue his search for Felt than to help Apple vendor's lost child in episode 1? I always thought it was quite dickish of him when Subaru suggested to ignore the child. I didn't see him as being much of a dick there than choosing to prioritize more pressing matters. Subaru has always struck me as some who is a good person, but isn't a saint. He's steadfast in protecting people who he cares about or repaying his obligations, but it doesn't mean he doesn't have wants or needs. He's carelessness, rudeness is definitely apparent, but more often then not it's more due to his lack of tact (and/or ignorance) rather then intention. Flawfinder said: Jagd84 said: Whether you want to what Suabru tested like this or not is irrelevant. It's like complaining about why Guts in Berserk had lose all his friends and family to demons and suffer through period of isolation where he mostly nothing but just a selfish asshole until he developed from his hardships into a better person as he struggled with his own flaws and cruel destiny. It's all for development of Subaru's character. He has to gradually face his own flaws and insecurities to come to terms with himself. Do I look like a Berserk fan to you? If don't like your welcome to drop the show. I'll pass. My point has nothing to do whether your Berserk fan or not, but this standard character development technique that isn't used LN very often. |
Iron_MawJul 6, 2016 5:42 PM
Jul 6, 2016 5:46 PM
#734
Jagd84 said: I didn't see him as being much of a dick there than choosing to prioritize more pressing matters. Yeah, that's the problem..... For all he knew, he could be prioritizing a trinket over a lost child. He had no idea what that insignia was, or what it was worth. |
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Jul 6, 2016 5:58 PM
#735
Wait, are people still trying to justify Subaru's actions? I don't know what there is left to say considering they literally voiced and animated him like a stereotypical anime villain this episode. Had I not watched the other 12 episodes, I really might have believed he was the series' main antagonist. |
Jul 6, 2016 6:00 PM
#736
FononZero said: Jagd84 said: I didn't see him as being much of a dick there than choosing to prioritize more pressing matters. Yeah, that's the problem..... For all he knew, he could be prioritizing a trinket over a lost child. He had no idea what that insignia was, or what it was worth. I don't see why that matters because on flipside if's that important as it seems then wasting time on detours when time is limited doesn't seem like a good idea because they don't know at one point where it could be lost forever. They were lucky that transaction was during the afternoon rather than midday when she lost it. So Subaru's stance was vaild because it's not as if he doesn't want to help the kid, it's they aren't position to do themselves. |
Jul 6, 2016 6:06 PM
#737
fst said: Wait, are people still trying to justify Subaru's actions? I don't know what there is left to say considering they literally voiced and animated him like a stereotypical anime villain this episode. Had I not watched the other 12 episodes, I really might have believed he was the series' main antagonist. Clearly you have never seen or dealt with anyone under strong stress or how effects emotional behavior if you're going to ridiculous paint things as black and white. Believe or not humans are more much complex than that. Suabru hasn't done anything extreme would remotely be considered villainousa |
Iron_MawJul 6, 2016 6:10 PM
Jul 6, 2016 6:35 PM
#738
Jagd84 said: FononZero said: Jagd84 said: I didn't see him as being much of a dick there than choosing to prioritize more pressing matters. Yeah, that's the problem..... For all he knew, he could be prioritizing a trinket over a lost child. He had no idea what that insignia was, or what it was worth. I don't see why that matters because on flipside if's that important as it seems then wasting time on detours when time is limited doesn't seem like a good idea because they don't know at one point where it could be lost forever. They were lucky that transaction was during the afternoon rather than midday when she lost it. So Subaru's stance was vaild because it's not as if he doesn't want to help the kid, it's they aren't position to do themselves. Sorry kid, I would help you, but I gotta find this random inanimate object that I know nothing about, for a girl I know nothing about, because it has a slight possibility of being a super rare valued treasure of some royal family that also allows someone to be selected as this country's next king. |
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Jul 6, 2016 6:41 PM
#739
In the end, I look at Subaru as a guy with serious problems. But I don't think he's intentionally spiteful. He will learn later in this series, I am pretty sure... but as for now, he does have issues. He just has to work them out. |
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Jul 6, 2016 6:49 PM
#740
Jagd84 said: fst said: Wait, are people still trying to justify Subaru's actions? I don't know what there is left to say considering they literally voiced and animated him like a stereotypical anime villain this episode. Had I not watched the other 12 episodes, I really might have believed he was the series' main antagonist. Clearly you have never seen or dealt with anyone under strong stress or how effects emotional behavior if you're going to ridiculous paint things as black and white. The irony is stronk with this one. Yes, humans are much more complex than that. That's why our MC goes from a reasonable if slightly obnoxious person to an insane, raving lunatic who seems to think he is now somehow entitled to do whatever he wants and everybody should just respect that in the time between the second and third arcs. inb4 "if you don't like it then stop watching it" |
Jul 6, 2016 6:50 PM
#741
FononZero said: Jagd84 said: FononZero said: Jagd84 said: I didn't see him as being much of a dick there than choosing to prioritize more pressing matters. Yeah, that's the problem..... For all he knew, he could be prioritizing a trinket over a lost child. He had no idea what that insignia was, or what it was worth. I don't see why that matters because on flipside if's that important as it seems then wasting time on detours when time is limited doesn't seem like a good idea because they don't know at one point where it could be lost forever. They were lucky that transaction was during the afternoon rather than midday when she lost it. So Subaru's stance was vaild because it's not as if he doesn't want to help the kid, it's they aren't position to do themselves. Sorry kid, I would help you, but I gotta find this random inanimate object that I know nothing about, for a girl I know nothing about, because it has a slight possibility of being a super rare valued treasure of some royal family that also allows someone to be selected as this country's next king. How nothing? She's shown much of her personality that I won't even bother to list. What he knows is that she has what he is interested in. Emilia told him that it was something important to her, didn't she? So yeah. The little girl being the merchant's daughter is coincidence that only happens in fiction. The little girl was much more of a stranger. And why was it Subaru and Emilia the ones to help her? Just the same. That town was full. Subaru was in the right for prioritizing the retrieval of the insignia. How lucky were they that the thief was well known. And lived nearby. Isn't all this plot convenience? It's inevitable, eh... (Still possible that this was all been planned.) fst said: Jagd84 said: fst said: Wait, are people still trying to justify Subaru's actions? I don't know what there is left to say considering they literally voiced and animated him like a stereotypical anime villain this episode. Had I not watched the other 12 episodes, I really might have believed he was the series' main antagonist. Clearly you have never seen or dealt with anyone under strong stress or how effects emotional behavior if you're going to ridiculous paint things as black and white. The irony is stronk with this one. Yes, humans are much more complex than that. That's why our MC goes from a reasonable if slightly obnoxious person to an insane, raving lunatic who seems to think he is now somehow entitled to do whatever he wants and everybody should just respect that in the time between the second and third arcs. It's fine. Don't try too hard. Subaru's behavior is beyond your comprehension. We know. |
removed-userJul 6, 2016 6:56 PM
Jul 6, 2016 6:54 PM
#742
FononZero said: Jagd84 said: FononZero said: Jagd84 said: I didn't see him as being much of a dick there than choosing to prioritize more pressing matters. Yeah, that's the problem..... For all he knew, he could be prioritizing a trinket over a lost child. He had no idea what that insignia was, or what it was worth. I don't see why that matters because on flipside if's that important as it seems then wasting time on detours when time is limited doesn't seem like a good idea because they don't know at one point where it could be lost forever. They were lucky that transaction was during the afternoon rather than midday when she lost it. So Subaru's stance was vaild because it's not as if he doesn't want to help the kid, it's they aren't position to do themselves. Sorry kid, I would help you, but I gotta find this random inanimate object that I know nothing about, for a girl I know nothing about, because it has a slight possibility of being a super rare valued treasure of some royal family that also allows someone to be selected as this country's next king. More like: sorry kid I got to help this person find extremely important valuable item she losing her head so much that she would go as far using magic in board light to harm said thief and destroy public property. Oh we know have no idea when it will be stole and ended up lost with no hope of re Furthermore let's cut the crap here. While Suabru initial said they better off focusing on their objective, he didn't protest helping the kid much and he was one got her to calm down. If Emilia wasn't him in a urgent matter that need their attention he would helped her himself. We already know he likes kids, we are talking about a guy who was going to run into forest full of monster just to save several) so let's not pretend he doesn't. Someone would have eventually helped the kid even if they didn't because they sure aren't only ones who noticed her. |
Iron_MawJul 8, 2016 1:58 AM
Jul 6, 2016 6:57 PM
#743
iRels said: The insignia being a super rare valuable royal treasure is coincidence that only happens in fiction. exactly what I mean..... |
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Jul 6, 2016 7:06 PM
#744
fst said: The irony is stronk with this one. Yes, humans are much more complex than that. That's why our MC goes from a reasonable if slightly obnoxious person to an insane, raving lunatic who seems to think he is now somehow entitled to do whatever he wants and everybody should just respect that in the time between the second and third arcs. inb4 "if you don't like it then stop watching it" LMAO, so not only are you being selectively ignorant, but you can't even talk about things beyond extremes. Raving lunatic? The guy just piss off and hasn't gotten over what happened where his pride was damage and he lost one means he to cope with his deaths here, It's he not going around robbing banks and attacking people for it. And no he doesn't think everyone should respect anything he does. He wants people to acknowledge his deeds, and stop sidelining him. Yes he's an emotional wreck right not, but hardly a villain. That happens all sorts people who difficult position you know. |
Iron_MawJul 6, 2016 7:12 PM
Jul 6, 2016 7:09 PM
#745
Jagd84 said: He wants people to acknowledge his deeds, and stop sidelining him. Yes, which is why he goes out of his way to piss everybody off, then they'll acknowledge his good deeds for sure! Maybe you should go look up what "raving lunatic" actually means if you think he's exempt just because he hasn't gone jesse james on these motherfuckers. |
Jul 6, 2016 7:10 PM
#746
fst said: Jagd84 said: He wants people to acknowledge his deeds, and stop sidelining him. Yes, which is why he goes out of his way to piss everybody off, then they'll acknowledge his good deeds for sure! Maybe you should go look up what "raving lunatic" actually means if you think he's exempt just because he hasn't gone jesse james on these motherfuckers. He was emotionally unstable. It's only natural then for him to act erroneously. Even those Shunen anime teach this. That you've to keep a cool mind when making decisions and such. FononZero said: iRels said: The insignia being a super rare valuable royal treasure is coincidence that only happens in fiction. exactly what I mean..... No no no. It was important BECAUSE someone beside him who he cared for, told him that it was. I don't think Emilia referred about its worth in money and such. Just that it was valuable to her. It wouldn't even be advisable for her to tell him that it's worth much. |
TyrelJul 6, 2016 8:54 PM
Jul 6, 2016 7:18 PM
#747
iRels said: fst said: Jagd84 said: He wants people to acknowledge his deeds, and stop sidelining him. Yes, which is why he goes out of his way to piss everybody off, then they'll acknowledge his good deeds for sure! Maybe you should go look up what "raving lunatic" actually means if you think he's exempt just because he hasn't gone jesse james on these motherfuckers. He was emotionally unstable. It's only natural then for him to act erroneously. Even those Shunen anime teach this. That you've to keep a cool mind when making decisions and such. Right, and this makes him a good character, how, exactly? Because none of that makes the last 2 episodes any less shitty. I almost had more fun watching the last 5 episodes of Koutetsujou no Kabaneri |
TyrelJul 6, 2016 8:55 PM
Jul 6, 2016 7:18 PM
#748
fst said: Jagd84 said: He wants people to acknowledge his deeds, and stop sidelining him. Yes, which is why he goes out of his way to piss everybody off, then they'll acknowledge his good deeds for sure!. Yes because worrying about your home and stressing of people telling you can't do anything when they don't understand you situation or what you have done is crime. Please. Maybe you should go look up what "raving lunatic" actually means if you think he's exempt just because he hasn't gone jesse james on these motherfuckers Or maybe you stop using words you don't know. Not this matters and anyway, your post have shone that clearly biased and insensitive, so this argument pointless against what is brick wall. EDIT: Oh okay, I know what kind of poster you are, I'm dropping this right now. |
Iron_MawJul 6, 2016 7:26 PM
Jul 6, 2016 8:16 PM
#749
FononZero said: Another thing that I found strange is that there was a pile of burnt bodies. While I realize that there is more than one fire user, we so far only know of one magic user that can use fire. Don't mean to nitpick, but is it possible they executed them as a group and simply set them ablaze? The adults seemed scattered about along with their weapons whereas the children, probably making up the majority ofthe last one left alive being found in a house or a ditch somewhere would be gathered up, executed, and then burned? |
Jul 6, 2016 8:31 PM
#750
QWERTYFish25 said: FononZero said: Another thing that I found strange is that there was a pile of burnt bodies. While I realize that there is more than one fire user, we so far only know of one magic user that can use fire. Don't mean to nitpick, but is it possible they executed them as a group and simply set them ablaze? The adults seemed scattered about along with their weapons whereas the children, probably making up the majority ofthe last one left alive being found in a house or a ditch somewhere would be gathered up, executed, and then burned? Of course. I have no idea who or what has done this. Just making theories for fun while waiting for the next episode. :P |
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