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May 28, 2016 12:38 AM
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Melt_Banana said:
I'm giving it 3/5... It was not a bad EP but it wasn't anything special either... .


You people don't just don't get it. It's a build up episode for something bigger to come in upcoming episodes.


If you want every moment action than go watch Chinese kungfu movie.
They fight even during eating, talking,drinking etc.
Happy watching
May 28, 2016 12:47 AM
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Well I just hope, it gets into more explanation about stuff. Got a feeling Mumei and the protagonist are siblings. My gut feeling tells me so.
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Fake_Williams said:
Well I just hope, it gets into more explanation about stuff. Got a feeling Mumei and the protagonist are siblings. My gut feeling tells me so.


That is impossible.
May 28, 2016 2:39 AM
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Relaxing and build-up episode, nice to see for once. I get to see Mumei in casual clothes once more which is something I've been waiting for.

Mumei's grim joke about turning into Kabane was uncomfortable to hear



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May 28, 2016 2:47 AM

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I love the transition after the intense battle.

I can see two ships here:
Ikoma x Mumei
Kurusu x Ayame (their blushing moment is funny)

I like Sukari. I find him attractive.

Nice to see another significant character. Biba is Mumei's brother. As much as he looks good-looking, he's suspicious (Ikoma and I have the same thought).
May 28, 2016 3:32 AM
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Darklight0303 said:
Fake_Williams said:
Well I just hope, it gets into more explanation about stuff. Got a feeling Mumei and the protagonist are siblings. My gut feeling tells me so.


That is impossible.

I wouldn't say it's impossible, but it would require drama best left to a certain other manga.
May 28, 2016 3:35 AM

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MysteriousBanana said:
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That is impossible.

I wouldn't say it's impossible, but it would require drama best left to a certain other manga.


Look at the two flashbacks They're completely different. There's no way they are related. Taking into account the age difference too it doesn't add up.
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Why did Kurusu blush when he saw Ayame eating? That's fucking weird. She's just eating, no biggie.

So Mumei's brother has pink hair. Disappointed much, I am. TT__TT I thought he was going to have gorgeous dark purple locks just like Mumei.


He's not really Mumei's brother though. So there was no reason for him to have any similarity to her. He just picked her up after saving her from the Bushi. No blood relation whatsoever


Oooh, that makes sense. I forgot that bit. My dumbass game was too strong when I saw this episode.
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May 28, 2016 4:06 AM

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Just a random question... Do we know how many episodes there will be? 12 or 25?
May 28, 2016 4:34 AM

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No apologies, I had to. But I did make it rated G!


Ayame gave him the XL-sized condom inside.

Yukina's reaction was like "bruhhhhhh....."
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May 28, 2016 4:48 AM
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Darklight0303 said:
MysteriousBanana said:

I wouldn't say it's impossible, but it would require drama best left to a certain other manga.


Look at the two flashbacks They're completely different. There's no way they are related. Taking into account the age difference too it doesn't add up.

Haha, I know, I'm just joking. Ever Green is about a couple that
, which would be the only way Ikoma and Mumei could be related ;)
May 28, 2016 5:38 AM

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Ghostzzz said:
Just a random question... Do we know how many episodes there will be? 12 or 25?
12 but it is still unclear if another season will be released in the future.
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May 28, 2016 6:52 AM

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galimx said:
This was more or less a SoL episode with some festival vibes. So, this "hunters" are like the "Survey Corps" or just coincidence?


More successful than the survey corps given they never conquered or recovered jack shit before getting their pet titan. They also weren't treated as heroes but as madmen.
May 28, 2016 7:29 AM

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I think Mumei's brother must be a villain :x
May 28, 2016 7:35 AM

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got a great screenshot from this episode...
the scenery is so beautiful...
a great calm episode too

something wrong with Mumei's brother...
May 28, 2016 7:40 AM

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The episode does not seem too quiet, even if other users describe it thus, proved to be quite interesting although not compelling. Biba I do not like, the atmosphere during the festival of Tanabata, was quite melancholic, although full of hope. The costume design of Mumei was cute, Kajika during shopping, it was fun. The same can be said of Ayame, LOL!
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I think the episode was alright, more of a transition after the rough battles and everything.

Mumei is much more cheerful and I find the episode rather relaxing with the causal outfits. Yukina is also more kinder than I had expected. Glad to see Ayame take on a bit more of a leadership role as well. Mumei's flashbacks also really seems to make her feel nostalgic with the people around her. Not bad for a breather overall, Mumei seemed much more human like a normal girl rather than a Kabaneri. I find her relationship with Ikoma to be kinda cute.

More troops introduced...should be interesting to see how their roles will play out rest of the season.



I feel like something bad might happen to mumei and ikoma is gonna save her. Also i have a bad feeling about Mumei's brother. I totally agree on ikoma's and mumei's relationship being cute but it seems to be one sided. :/
May 28, 2016 7:58 AM

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Hikari_Hoshisora said:
Good to see the characters finally getting some rest, at least for a while. I'm loving the relationship between Ikoma and Mumei, I don't care if they become a couple or they reach to something like siblings, just let them be together!
LOL I was thinking Ayame was looking worried and sad because she was waiting for too long, but in the end she was wondering if eat those sweets or not.
Also, Kurusu can get cute too huh??? that's new.



And finally we see Mumei's aniiki... Ikoma won't lose his gaze from Biba.



Kurusu totally likes Ayame-sama omfg he went so red when ayame asked for his wish. I bet it was something cheesy.
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zal said:
Ghostzzz said:
Just a random question... Do we know how many episodes there will be? 12 or 25?
12 but it is still unclear if another season will be released in the future.


No way... only 12? There isn't a villain yet. Also, how can they conclude everything in 12 episodes... Nah, it seems fishy. There must be a new season coming so I expect a huuge cliffhanger.

Also, what do people say here about "the-ship?"
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Ghostzzz said:
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12 but it is still unclear if another season will be released in the future.


No way... only 12? There isn't a villain yet. Also, how can they conclude everything in 12 episodes... Nah, it seems fishy. There must be a new season coming so I expect a huuge cliffhanger.

Also, what do people say here about "the-ship?"


That's just how animes work tho. They make or adapt an incomplete story and if the income reach their standards they make another season. So you gotta hope this anime have a good audience and sells well in Japan.
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May 28, 2016 10:46 AM

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That was a refreshing episode.

We finally got to see Mumei's aniki.




May 28, 2016 11:19 AM

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Eh, this episode is pretty slow than the rest, it's quite a refreshing change of pace
May 28, 2016 12:35 PM

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Ghostzzz said:


No way... only 12? There isn't a villain yet. Also, how can they conclude everything in 12 episodes... Nah, it seems fishy. There must be a new season coming so I expect a huuge cliffhanger.

Also, what do people say here about "the-ship?"


That's just how animes work tho. They make or adapt an incomplete story and if the income reach their standards they make another season. So you gotta hope this anime have a good audience and sells well in Japan.


hasn't this been guaranteed? The anime is amazing! Plus, it hurts when objectively anime is a product rather than a form of art. In the end, money is the name of the game...
May 28, 2016 1:52 PM

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Definitely a calm before the storm. Liked this episode in all it's soothing qualities. Next week ought to be a blast more or less literally.
May 28, 2016 2:15 PM

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My impression of Biba was that he seemed nice and likeable, call me a sheep.

But going by the MC's monologue, it will go down that "he's a bad dude" route.
May 28, 2016 2:16 PM

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My impression of Biba was that he seemed nice and likeable, call me a sheep.

But going by the MC's monologue, it will go down that "he's a bad dude" route.


Considering the conditioning he's put Mumei through yeah no it's not just the MC's imagination.
May 28, 2016 3:28 PM

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This thought occured to me, bear with me, what if Ikoma is actually an insane mad scientist with a fetish for seeing mutilated sisters. The mad scientist part is self explanatory.

So for example what happened to Ikoma's sister was intentional, he pretended to be a coward.

Now he has his sights set on Mumei, "I want to fill your belly with rice" basically means he wants to dissect her. That's why Ikoma saved her and has been acting so close lately, he wants to "help turn her back to human". *shudder

The only thing stopping Ikoma is the "evil" big brother Biba, he has to kill Biba so that he can make Mumei his sister.

So that would make Biba the hero of the story and Ikoma the villain.
May 28, 2016 7:45 PM
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I don't think Biba is going to be a villain, he'll likely be the pragmatist that challenges Ikoma's idealism (which was a role I thought Kurusu would take, but he's too much of a follower to actually challenge anyone), but any direct conflict would make no sense: Biba's worshipped as a hero, fighting him would be suicidal as it turns Ikoma (and anyone seen as supporting him) into pariahs in a world where it's impossible to survive outside stations or regular supplies from said stations.

There's also the foreshadowing that Biba will be in conflict with the Shogunate over their amassing of weapons (which is consistent with the theme of "fighting the wrong enemy", which Ikoma states in the first episode, Ayame mentions in the third, and even Kurusu reaffirms in this episode); it makes more sense that Biba will try to recruit Ikoma and company to fight against the Shogunate, and in that alliance Ikoma will struggle with how similar Biba's ideals are to his own, but without the compassion.

Or maybe it'll just be a big fight between a national hero and half-monster and everything will be okay with the wave of the Plot Magic wand. I really hope it won't be though.
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this episode was pretty dumb but it's still fun to watch. the last scene was ripped off of AoT, but that's ok. people getting all blushed up was kind of surprising... possibly in a bad way. also, mumei is the most kickass character in this, I wish Ikoma didn't have to put her down like that. there are so many open ends I can't imagine this story ending in 12 episodes.
May 28, 2016 8:51 PM

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Fillerish episode for an original series with only 12 episodes.

Okouchi is really, really stupid sometimes.
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May 28, 2016 9:16 PM

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In spite of this being more SOL and pretty much devoid of action in comparison to the previous episode I just can't help but like this episode. It was genuinely good to see the characters kicking back for a moment after their struggle with survival. And unlike the previous stop that was littered with distrust of their saviors and was concluded with a rather painful loss (the pregnant chick becoming a Kabane) this stop was focused to build further understanding of the characters. It was loaded with I want to change the world bits but honestly that's fine considering the shape of their world which makes even agriculture a nearly impossible task. Ultimately all of their "wishes" at the end are based on survival and making the world a better place. But even that is given an authentic boost by the MCs wish, inspired by his learning more of Mumei. It was refreshing after seeing the constant struggle of trust and respect between the characters to see it pretty much pay off in a way.

Next ep seems to be an intro in as to what specifically these hunters may be and where they stand in this society. Judging from the conversation between the two groups they weren't very much excited to associate themselves with those hunters in spite of the general population adoring them. I must say they got the long-haired pretty boy design on Mumei's brother right. From his few lines he seems accessible but obviously he'll have some ideals that will clash with Ikoma. But looking forward I think there may be common ground for them to stand on.
May 28, 2016 9:44 PM

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AARAGSJHhadshasdjkfgnjklsdafKLf!!!!!!

The amount of people that label this episode as "filler" just cuz there's no progressive event or something infuriates me.

Do you guys sincerely think that this episode is totally unnecessary and it would've made ZERO difference if it didn't exist? Did you guys really
thought about EVERYTHING that happened in this episode and still consider all of them useless?
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Pretty much impossible, but is there a small chance that Mumei is Ikomas sister?

Have a gut feeling that the bible dude in the first ep that died a "honorable death" (got mentioned this episode too when Mumei met Biba) saved Ikomas sister.

Two things that I don't know for sure yet is Biba really Mumeis brother and is the name she said her mother gave her really true?
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Xion69 said:
Melt_Banana said:
I'm giving it 3/5... It was not a bad EP but it wasn't anything special either... .


You people don't just don't get it. It's a build up episode for something bigger to come in upcoming episodes.


I know it's a build up episode, and I rated it as one but I still don't think it was so amazing that it deserves 5/5 rating. It was okay, really, something like 3.5/5 but I decided not to round it up to 4 because I rounded up previous two eps to a higher mark so yeah... trying to maintain karmic balance lol.

5/5 rating for build up EPs should be reserved for the EPs like EP 15 of Neon Genesis Evangelion or EP 125 of HxH that had some great character development and progressed the story.
This episode of KnK while it was enjoyable really didn't do anything amazing in my opinion. It's cool that Ikoma and Mumei are getting closer and how we got to see some of the side characters get more screen time and in finally got to see Bibi-sama, but really saying it's mindblowing would be too much in my opinion.

And no, I'm not hating on the show. I think I'm one of the most supportive people out here but I'm also trying to be objective.

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If you want every moment action than go watch Chinese kungfu movie.
They fight even during eating, talking,drinking etc.


No reason to act like that... and really, there are some pretty good Chinese martial art movies (come on, first Ip Man movie was pretty damn good).


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Pretty much impossible, but is there a small chance that Mumei is Ikomas sister?

Now that would be a really good twist... I'm not sure how likely it is, but it shouldn't be impossible... I mean we saw that wound on the Mumei's back and we know that Ikoma used that suicide bag thing on his sister's chest... now it seems to be pretty strong so it's quite possible that it went through...

And yeah, their relationship seems to be progressing toward a more brother-sister bond... I guess it would be pretty cool
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JumBoRGiNo said:
Pretty much impossible, but is there a small chance that Mumei is Ikomas sister?

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Now that would be a really good twist... I'm not sure how likely it is, but it shouldn't be impossible... I mean we saw that wound on the Mumei's back and we know that Ikoma used that suicide bag thing on his sister's chest... now it seems to be pretty strong so it's quite possible that it went through...

The only way Mumei and Ikoma can be siblings is if they pull out a last-second gotcha and reveal they coincidentally share an adulterous father who was banging two (or more) different women.

But this isn't that kind of anime, so that's not going to happen.
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cliche on cliche. I feel like the show is going to turn for the worse
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I think the creators are taking their time for a good reason that mumei is hiding the fact she's ikomas sister.

But ye nah she ain't his sister... cause after rewatching this moment there is literally almost zero chance but again they didn't show how he pierced etc:


IDK what to think so IMA STOP thinking fam.
I honestly hope she is ikomas sister but I highly doubt it.
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I love this episode, it added a whole another aspect that was needed, even if this was already good.


I'm sure Kurusu wants to get together with Ayame, haha.
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Awful episode. The last 2 episodes weren't anything special, but this was bad. Terribly cliche. And the hunters are an obvious rip off of the Survey Corps. Is this show supposed to be a giant mish mash of everything before it? There is nothing original about this shit show. Even the directing is unoriginal.

2/10

Edit: Going through the thread a bit, I noticed a lot of you think Mumei is Ikoma's brother. Apparently Ikoma's flashback early in the series where he's the SAME AGE AS HIS SISTER went right over your heads. Ikoma saw his sister in Mumei because he views Mumei as a little sister.
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Awful episode. The last 2 episodes weren't anything special, but this was bad. Terribly cliche. And the hunters are an obvious rip off of the Survey Corps. Is this show supposed to be a giant mish mash of everything before it? There is nothing original about this shit show. Even the directing is unoriginal.

2/10

Edit: Going through the thread a bit, I noticed a lot of you think Mumei is Ikoma's brother. Apparently Ikoma's flashback early in the series where he's the SAME AGE AS HIS SISTER went right over your heads. Ikoma saw his sister in Mumei because he views Mumei as a little sister.
Not only that but also Mumei's flashback of how her mother died and she was rescued by pink aniki. But these are things that happen when a show requires you to switch you brain off.
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I don't think Biba is going to be a villain, he'll likely be the pragmatist that challenges Ikoma's idealism (which was a role I thought Kurusu would take, but he's too much of a follower to actually challenge anyone), but any direct conflict would make no sense: Biba's worshipped as a hero, fighting him would be suicidal as it turns Ikoma (and anyone seen as supporting him) into pariahs in a world where it's impossible to survive outside stations or regular supplies from said stations.

There's also the foreshadowing that Biba will be in conflict with the Shogunate over their amassing of weapons (which is consistent with the theme of "fighting the wrong enemy", which Ikoma states in the first episode, Ayame mentions in the third, and even Kurusu reaffirms in this episode); it makes more sense that Biba will try to recruit Ikoma and company to fight against the Shogunate, and in that alliance Ikoma will struggle with how similar Biba's ideals are to his own, but without the compassion.

Or maybe it'll just be a big fight between a national hero and half-monster and everything will be okay with the wave of the Plot Magic wand. I really hope it won't be though.


The general public is ignorant and retarded. There's plenty of room for Biba to be a villain behind his public image especially given there's a high chance that the Fused Colony last episode had a Kabaneri in its heart
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This thought occured to me, bear with me, what if Ikoma is actually an insane mad scientist with a fetish for seeing mutilated sisters. The mad scientist part is self explanatory.

So for example what happened to Ikoma's sister was intentional, he pretended to be a coward.

Now he has his sights set on Mumei, "I want to fill your belly with rice" basically means he wants to dissect her. That's why Ikoma saved her and has been acting so close lately, he wants to "help turn her back to human". *shudder

The only thing stopping Ikoma is the "evil" big brother Biba, he has to kill Biba so that he can make Mumei his sister.

So that would make Biba the hero of the story and Ikoma the villain.


I can't even begin to start with how utterly insane and impossible that is
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I liked the laid back nature of this episode, but I'm disappointed with the translator/translators. Why would her name be Hodsumi? That's not possible given how the Japanese language works. Looking it up and listening to her saying it several times, I conclude it to be Hozumi.

I have watched bad subs before, and I usually don't mind a little bad grammar here and there, but when names are changed, I get upset :S.
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@MysteriousBanana

Don't forget that this is anime, and one of the basic rules of anime is that you shouldn't write off a character as dead if you didn't see his/her head being cut off on screen! lol
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@MysteriousBanana

Don't forget that this is anime, and one of the basic rules of anime is that you shouldn't write off a character as dead if you didn't see his/her head being cut off on screen! lol


Except we saw Ikoma hug his sister AFTER he blew her heart out. The amount of blood on him proves it
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Don't forget that this is anime, and one of the basic rules of anime is that you shouldn't write off a character as dead if you didn't see his/her head being cut off on screen! lol
However you are neglecting Mumei's flashback of how her mother died and she was rescued by pink aniki.
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The hunters seemed a little bit too much like the Survey Corps. I understand that the show is trying to be "original" or whatnot and it's by the same studio, but c'mon... like really though?

Not really much happened this episode except for the fact that we know who Mumei's brother is now. But I guess we needed a laid back episode eventually.
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The hunters seemed a little bit too much like the Survey Corps. I understand that the show is trying to be "original" or whatnot and it's by the same studio, but c'mon... like really though?

Not really much happened this episode except for the fact that we know who Mumei's brother is now. But I guess we needed a laid back episode eventually.


The survey corps are treated as madmen and pariah by the general populace. Their members are also nothing special in the social structure.

Hunters are regarded as heroes, have access to technology that the rest of the armed forces do not and are led by the son of the Shogun. Also the fact that they're seen as heroes suggests a track record of successes more than failures. How the hell is that anything like the Survey Corps?
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The hunters seemed a little bit too much like the Survey Corps. I understand that the show is trying to be "original" or whatnot and it's by the same studio, but c'mon... like really though?

Not really much happened this episode except for the fact that we know who Mumei's brother is now. But I guess we needed a laid back episode eventually.


The survey corps are treated as madmen and pariah by the general populace. Their members are also nothing special in the social structure.

Hunters are regarded as heroes, have access to technology that the rest of the armed forces do not and are led by the son of the Shogun. Also the fact that they're seen as heroes suggests a track record of successes more than failures. How the hell is that anything like the Survey Corps?


So, you really don't see any resemblance whatsoever? Well, based on the information given in the most previous episode, the hunters actually win their battles and you're right about that. But the whole concept of having a group of people go out and for the enemy etc. just immediately reminded me of the Survey Corps. When you saw the Hunters, you didn't think of the Survey Corps at all? You can't say that they are absolutely nothing alike because that'd just be an untruthful exaggeration.

Also, we don't really know much about how they're treated as of yet. Of course they'll be welcomed and treated like heroes since they were first introduced. When the Survey Corps were first introduced, there were a crowd of people cheering and admiring them from what I remember. But in a long run, that didn't necessarily turn out to be the case. I wouldn't define the Hunters as heroes based on the last 1 minute of an episode. Like Ikoma said, there's still a lot more that's being hidden from us as of now. It's just a first impression, think what you will.
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Exhalant said:
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The survey corps are treated as madmen and pariah by the general populace. Their members are also nothing special in the social structure.

Hunters are regarded as heroes, have access to technology that the rest of the armed forces do not and are led by the son of the Shogun. Also the fact that they're seen as heroes suggests a track record of successes more than failures. How the hell is that anything like the Survey Corps?


So, you really don't see any resemblance whatsoever? Well, based on the information given in the most previous episode, the hunters actually win their battles and you're right about that. But the whole concept of having a group of people go out and for the enemy etc. just immediately reminded me of the Survey Corps. When you saw the Hunters, you didn't think of the Survey Corps at all? You can't say that they are absolutely nothing alike because that'd just be an untruthful exaggeration.

Also, we don't really know much about how they're treated as of yet. Of course they'll be welcomed and treated like heroes since they were first introduced. When the Survey Corps were first introduced, there were a crowd of people cheering and admiring them from what I remember. But in a long run, that didn't necessarily turn out to be the case. I wouldn't define the Hunters as heroes based on the last 1 minute of an episode. Like Ikoma said, there's still a lot more that's being hidden from us as of now. It's just a first impression, think what you will.


You do realize that AOT did not invent the concept of a special division created with the sole purpose of fighting the powerful enemy right? Too many people are attributing things that have been around for ages before AOT even came along.

If anything given that Mumei is a kabaneri and part of the Hunters that group is closer to the CLAYMORES from Claymore than the survey corps. Especially if last episode that fused colony really did have a Kabaneri as its heart which would suggest involvement of the Hunters in some way.

Claymore came out in 2001

AOT as a manga came out in 2009.
Darklight0303May 29, 2016 7:16 AM
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