Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
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| So good. I know some people are whining about how annoying Subaru was at first, but I can't be the only one who thinks his breakdown was handled perfectly. The psychological aspects of this show are really nuanced. It's interesting to see how everything slowly takes its toll. A lot of anime would gloss over all the psychological trauma. Looks like Subaru is finding his determination again, but I'm really curious to see what his mental state will be like by the end. Anyway, sorry Kabaneri, but I think this is now my favourite anime of the season. |
zal said: yani118 said: They built up his tension this whole arc, he is becoming crazy with a split personality and a breakdown on her lap is enough to erase all that? If that's the case then it is cheap, for me such a sudden turn of heart is not convincing at all.How was it cheap? .-. Can you care to explain? I thought it was pretty good that part. It finally showed the pain that he has hidden in for too long you know... I related/empathised deeply with him on that part. Depends on the person I guess... Who said it erased it? Subaru is still mentally broken and will continue to get worse. He just needed to let go and cry for a while to feel better. He hasn't been completely "cured" if that's what you mean. |
Shrimperor said: I will be honest here,i dont...If i was Subaru and if there was such a person in my life, i would die a million times to protect that person...That person doesnt even have to be a erokawaii half-elf beauty...zal said: They built up his tension this whole arc, he is becoming crazy with a split personality and a breakdown on her lap is enough to erase all that? If that's the case then it is cheap, for me such a sudden turn of heart is not convincing at all. you don't have someone that will listen to your problems in Life it seems. Novangel said: You chose well sireAnyway, sorry Kabaneri, but I think this is now my favourite anime of the season. |
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Shrimperor said: I don't care about what impression you have of me. Having someone that listens to the problems doesn't automatically solve them.zal said: They built up his tension this whole arc, he is becoming crazy with a split personality and a breakdown on her lap is enough to erase all that? If that's the case then it is cheap, for me such a sudden turn of heart is not convincing at all. you don't have someone that will listen to your problems in Life it seems. Vinyet said: I said if that's the case, the episode ended shortly after the lap scene.zal said: They built up his tension this whole arc, he is becoming crazy with a split personality and a breakdown on her lap is enough to erase all that? If that's the case then it is cheap, for me such a sudden turn of heart is not convincing at all. Who said it erased it? Subaru is still mentally broken and will continue to get worse. He just needed to let go and cry for a while to feel better. He hasn't been completely "cured" if that's what you mean. enginesofdemise said: Should I call it dissonance between his thought and behaviour or how? You got the message. His energetic demeanor has always been annoying genuine or not, this episode more than others because his condition was getting worse, I get this. It doesn't change the fact that he is mostly annoying.zal said: Split personality? Do you actually think his overly-energetic demeanor this episode was genuine?They built up his tension this whole arc, he is becoming crazy with a split personality and a breakdown on her lap is enough to erase all that? If that's the case then it is cheap, for me such a sudden turn of heart is not convincing at all. They couldn't have made it any more clear that he acts happy and eccentric as a mask to cope with his crippling depression and constant paranoia. The fact that he was annoying was the entire point. |
zalMay 22, 2016 4:09 PM
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| The ~ c o o l d o w n ~ I think we all needed this, especially Subaru. |
| it is great to know the only reason subru killed himself to save rem was because she hold his hands when he was sick what an amazing character interaction also this show has no idea of ow to swift from heavy drama to comedy and that made the end of the episode cringewhorty and as usual subaru remains a retard that needs to die three times to do the obvious and try to understand how he was killed to find a way to protect himself |
| A lap pillow, boys. Solution to all mental health problems. |
LoneWizard said: Epicenter said: Wat?I can understand you hating "lolis being sexualised" but hating lolis???Your mother was a loli once you know?Man, I really hate lolis, so it really bothers me that I really enjoy Beatrice and Subaru's interactions and relationship now. It's really good how he can trust her and looks to her for help, just wish she wasn't a loli. Lol, I must admit you amused me with that. But in all seriousness, we can't act like Beatrice, or even arguably the twins, are innocent acts. Lolis is one of the major things that harms the reputation of anime fans. Sometimes when people talk about pedophiles they make sweeping blanket statements about anime fans, without distinction, being apart of the people who are into little kids. |
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Epicenter said: If a person assumes you are a pedophile just because the show you watch has some little girl in it,i have bad news:That person is more of a pedophile than you for having impure thoughts...LoneWizard said: Wat?I can understand you hating "lolis being sexualised" but hating lolis???Your mother was a loli once you know? Lol, I must admit you amused me with that. But in all seriousness, we can't act like Beatrice, or even arguably the twins, are innocent acts. Lolis is one of the major things that harms the reputation of anime fans. Sometimes when people talk about pedophiles they make sweeping blanket statements about anime fans, without distinction, being apart of the people who are into little kids. And again,i am not referring to loli-service shows...So far beatrice havent been in any kind of sexual context...She is just a being and she happens to be small...There is nothing impure about it unless you have a dirty mind yourself... |
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| With the way Sabaru was acting, others will find it hard to believe that he is a good guy which lead to his death. He thinks the villagers are the one that put the curse...it seems to be Emilia to me. I am surprised he didn't die this episode/time...he acted way too suspicious. |
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| lmao,Would love to see everyone here complaining how Subaru makes bad decisions to be thrown into the anime and see how sane decisions they will make after getting brutally murdered over and over... Gotta love this new MAL hide-user feature for times like these... |
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zal said: I don't care about what impression you have of me. Having someone that listens to the doesn't solve them. It doesn't, but it helps a lot, perhaps not for you but for others it does. It feels like you are nitpicking to be honest, you can see it wasn't a miracle solution to his psychological state but it did help him. You could complain why the hell he doesn't give a damn about his life in the other world though. |
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LoneWizard said: Epicenter said: If a person assumes you are a pedophile just because the show you watch has some little girl in it,i have bad news:That person is more of a pedophile than you for having impure thoughts...Lol, I must admit you amused me with that. But in all seriousness, we can't act like Beatrice, or even arguably the twins, are innocent acts. Lolis is one of the major things that harms the reputation of anime fans. Sometimes when people talk about pedophiles they make sweeping blanket statements about anime fans, without distinction, being apart of the people who are into little kids. And again,i am not referring to loli-service shows...So far beatrice havent been in any kind of sexual context...She is just a being and she happens to be small...There is nothing impure about it unless you have a dirty mind yourself... I don't care if they're ignorant, I'm just bothered it besmirches the anime community as a whole and you must admit that the anime community gets hit with this little kid stuff all the time, the lolis in this fashion must be stopped IMO, though of course there's little I can do about it. Listen one of my favourite characters of all time is Kino, she's clearly built like a child, but she is not sexualized, she's not part of a story where even a whiff of romantic stuff is a focus, or any type of harem situation. This is a great anime, but come on, there's clearly harem undertones laced in this anime, and I cannot with good consequence pretend like the insertion of these child looking characters like Beatrice, and arguable even the twins, wasn't to appease a certain type of anime/manga/LN fan which is the scourge of our reputation. |
| Jaywalker. |
| Really enjoyed this episode. Poor Subaru is trying so hard. At least he got to rest his head in such a lovely place. I wonder if the vase scene will come back to haunt Subaru. Rem definitely suspects Subaru. Although the Rem seeing Subaru sleeping may have negated that suspicion. Those two flowers are lovely :) |
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ibraheem234 said: the episode was so good.. I have an exam tomorrow but wont miss it for the world. I hope everything goes well this time Wish you good luck. Unfortunately, we have no retry and respawning in real life. |
"Vaut mieux se suffire à soi que finir assoiffé dans le monde des apparences."  |
LoneWizard said: People can judge just based on their experience and when putting themselves in his shoes they obviously would have done different choices with their current mentality. However the other perspective of saying: "imagine you are subaru and this happens then you would do the same" has no real value because it is just speculation and you can't imagine dying over and over again. So it just depends on the author how able is to convince the viewer of the plausibility of what happens. lmao,Would love to see everyone here complaining how Subaru makes bad decisions to be thrown into the anime and see how sane decisions they will make after getting brutally murdered over and over... Gotta love this new MAL hide-user feature for times like these... So at the end no side is really correct, mostly matter of opinion. Verumir said: How is it nitpicking doubting a key element of the episode? zal said: I don't care about what impression you have of me. Having someone that listens to the doesn't solve them. It doesn't, but it helps a lot, perhaps not for you but for others it does. It feels like you are nitpicking to be honest, you can see it wasn't a miracle solution to his psychological state but it did help him. You could complain why the hell he doesn't give a damn about his life in the other world though. I am not saying that couldn't work or at least as a temporary cure. For me it wasn't convincing since the build up was long and intense and then with just that lap breakdown all worries seem gone. |
zalMay 22, 2016 4:21 PM
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| Goddammit, I wish I could read Japanese so I can read the source material off of syosetsu because I need morrrrrrrrrrrree plot. (No, I am not using machine translations.) THE WAIT IS KILLING ME SOMEONE PLS HELP. |
| Another fantastic episode the character interactions and dialogue are so good. I love this anime. |
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| Another episode that doesn't disappoint. Seriously this is the one anime series from the last several years that has been so consistently good for me. Loved that this was a more chill episode with Subaru coming to terms with what's happened to him. His facade finally started to break down and that created a really powerful moment between him and Emilia. The one thing that just makes this series work is the fact it makes you care so much about Subaru and his struggles. If it failed at that then this series wouldn't be as popular as it is now. Interesting to learn more about the one witch, she really was the biggest bad in that world if it took all that to stop her and she managed to devour half the world. Hoping Subaru manages to survive this time but since the arc is still 2 episodes more he might have to die again, ugh pain. |
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| I'm really liking Subaru and Emilia's chemistry and it was also nice to see the reason why she called herself Satella in the first episode was explained. Still getting annoyed at Subaru's genius plans, though. Now that he likely confirmed he's got an unlimited number of deaths, why does he not take a more direct approach (as in telling them there's a threat which will appear in the next few days) instead of trying to convince them he's trustworthy by working hard of all things? As that would actually clear him of any suspicious. I had a similar problem with Erased recently, so I assume it's just hard to make a story with time loops in which the mc makes logical decisions... |
| 5 main aspects I base my ratings on: 1. Did DramaEnthusiast make a thread about it? 2. Is it better than Breaking Bad? 3. Did MellowJello recommend the shit out of it? 4. Has it caused a (very entertaining) shitstorm on MAL? 5. Is it actually good? Scratch the fifth point, it's not very relevant... |
Epicenter said: I dont care about reputation of me or animu in the eyes of those shallow people...My country is way too dumb to watch anything that requires more intelligence than Naruto,Bleach,One Piece anyway...So i dont give a fuq to what they think of me or chineese cartoons...which is the scourge of our reputation. Drake1000 said: I am interested in you telling me more about this...What better opportunities he had?How would a shut-in who never worked in his life who is drenched in witch's smell whom everyone hates would live an easy life outside this mantion?At least here he has a person he somewhat knows and more importantly that person he knows is genuinely kindhearted as he saw in first 3 episodes(her saving the girl and Subaru even though she was in a hurry)...I'm sure most wouldn't end up in this fucked up mansion to begin with. |
LoneWizzyMay 22, 2016 4:40 PM
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Ramzee said: SpawnOfSatan said: So you watched Chinese raw eh? That's why his descriptions on each episode are shit. He just wants to be the first one to post it. It is pretty sad.  It's like this for almost every airing anime... |
| Didn't like the voice of subaru when he was over doing things but beside that this episode was fantastic. And man I love how Beatrice says "hmph". |
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| So yeah Beako said they sealed away the witch but not her body, half elf with silver hair.. so is Emilia what remains of the witch? Find out on the next episode of Dragon Ball Z Re:Zero.. |
Epicenter said: LoneWizard said: If a person assumes you are a pedophile just because the show you watch has some little girl in it,i have bad news:That person is more of a pedophile than you for having impure thoughts... And again,i am not referring to loli-service shows...So far beatrice havent been in any kind of sexual context...She is just a being and she happens to be small...There is nothing impure about it unless you have a dirty mind yourself... I don't care if they're ignorant, I'm just bothered it besmirches the anime community as a whole and you must admit that the anime community gets hit with this little kid stuff all the time, the lolis in this fashion must be stopped IMO, though of course there's little I can do about it. Listen one of my favourite characters of all time is Kino, she's clearly built like a child, but she is not sexualized, she's not part of a story where even a whiff of romantic stuff is a focus, or any type of harem situation. This is a great anime, but come on, there's clearly harem undertones laced in this anime, and I cannot with good consequence pretend like the insertion of these child looking characters like Beatrice, and arguable even the twins, wasn't to appease a certain type of anime/manga/LN fan which is the scourge of our reputation. Speaking of Kino, the author actually wrote a spinoff novel of Kino's Journey called Gakuen Kino. She nicknames herself "Mysterious Bishoujo Gun Fighter Rider Kino". Guess you could say she's a little bit sexualized there lol. She's portrayed as a cutesy school girl. But as a huge fan of Kino's Journey I just thought it was interesting to note. I honestly got no harem undertones between Beatrice and Subaru though. I don't see how anyone could warp their relationship into anything sexual. It seems completely platonic to me. |
AlcaknightMay 22, 2016 4:36 PM
| The theory I came up with 2-3 episodes ago was right lol It was too easy. Anyways, Subaru's seiyuu's voice got a bit annoying in this episode, but oh well. Seeing Ram and Rem together again makes me happy ;w; and I love Beako. |
Epicenter said: LoneWizard said: Wat?I can understand you hating "lolis being sexualised" but hating lolis???Your mother was a loli once you know? Lol, I must admit you amused me with that. But in all seriousness, we can't act like Beatrice, or even arguably the twins, are innocent acts. Lolis is one of the major things that harms the reputation of anime fans. Sometimes when people talk about pedophiles they make sweeping blanket statements about anime fans, without distinction, being apart of the people who are into little kids. I must say that you are not thinking straight. Not a single time did I have a feeling of Beatrice being sexualized. And what's it for hating lolis? You mean you don't like short women? Beatrice and twins are perfectly innocent imo except the fact that one of the twins killed Subaru, I feel like you are having non innocent thoughts. |
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At this rate I prolly won't be surprised if the whole weakness curse thing was actually from the dog bite in the village, prolly has some rabies or some shit. Of course you will be, you're sweeping the floor upside down~ :'D |
| A cooldown episode? Nice! ( Someone's gonna die next week >.> ) The show is hinting way too much that Emilia might be the jealous witch. But I still don't want to believe it. @Fai, The dog wasn't the source of the curse. I bet in the name of innocence! Also, when Ram died last week, I'm pretty sure she didn't got bitten by the dog like Barusu @Epicenter, Hating lolis for the sake of hating lolis isn't cool you know. Lolis are one of the most important and also the most innocent anime trope till now. Being cute isn't a crime |
Z-DanteMay 22, 2016 4:53 PM
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| I have no words to describe how good this episode was, such a beautiful and brilliant episode, his breakdown scene was handled better than I've could dream of. I only hope that Emilia is not the true witch nor is related to her in any way, because this would be so painful to watch after all the things which Subaru went through to get here and something like this would be too overwhelming for him to handle alone. |
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| How old are ram and rem anyway? I think I heard speculation about them being not human? |
| That crying scene, that was great, sounded good, looked good, just perfect! |
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crx07 said: I thought his problem was getting killed for whatever reason and then seeing the bonds he has made disappear. By the way quite conveniently the dark hand doesn't let him to tell anybody about his issues.zal said: His problem is that nobody understands his heartaches. Luckily Emilia noticed it. So problem solved. And Emilia's lap is her act of showing care on Subaru. It's like an embrace to a friend or whoever it may be to comfort your whatever sadness you have. So Subaru's comforted there.I don't care about what impression you have of me. Having someone that listens to the problems doesn't automatically solve them. |
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| I really hope Subaru doesn't die before making it past this week at least. He's already built up so much between everyone. I'm telling you, I think Roswald is kinda fishy. Really fishy. I feel like he touched Subaru but I don't exactly remember. It wouldn't be odd that he did if he like shook Subaru's hand or something |
Novangel said: Epicenter said: I don't care if they're ignorant, I'm just bothered it besmirches the anime community as a whole and you must admit that the anime community gets hit with this little kid stuff all the time, the lolis in this fashion must be stopped IMO, though of course there's little I can do about it. Listen one of my favourite characters of all time is Kino, she's clearly built like a child, but she is not sexualized, she's not part of a story where even a whiff of romantic stuff is a focus, or any type of harem situation. This is a great anime, but come on, there's clearly harem undertones laced in this anime, and I cannot with good consequence pretend like the insertion of these child looking characters like Beatrice, and arguable even the twins, wasn't to appease a certain type of anime/manga/LN fan which is the scourge of our reputation. Speaking of Kino, the author actually wrote a spinoff novel of Kino's Journey called Gakuen Kino. She nicknames herself "Mysterious Bishoujo Gun Fighter Rider Kino". Guess you could say she's a little bit sexualized there lol. She's portrayed as a cutesy school girl. But as a huge fan of Kino's Journey I just thought it was interesting to note. I honestly got no harem undertones between Beatrice and Subaru though. I don't see how anyone could warp their relationship into anything sexual. It seems completely platonic to me. Honestly, I wish you hadn't given me this piece of information, I'll just shake my head and try to forget about it because I refuse to allow Kino's Journey to be stained by w.e spinoff. Anyways, once you insert harem undertones in an anime it's already over, almost all center characters of the opposite sex of the main character automatically gets placed into the harem sphere, unless its a mother or something like that. Beatrice just being around, having her tsundere like attitude with him, and her cutesy little stunts means to me she might as well be in the harem, sure a fringe member of it, but in it nonetheless. Besides, like I said, I'm not sure I'll give those two maids the benefit of a doubt of not being lolis, they're very near loli to me. |
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Epicenter said: I'm not sure I'll give those two maids the benefit of a doubt of not being lolis, they're very near loli to me. Can i have your definition of Loli please? crx07 said: leNerd said: Why? I hope it does not happen like in real life (except for crybabies of course).I always lose a little respect for male characters when they cry like a baby. Becasue man shouldn't cry, ya know /s |
| To think that people still hates lolis on this day, on this age...... *Facepalm* |
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| WOOO! The lap pillow scene was wonderful. Very heartwarming. :) The best part is even Emilia didn't understand what he was going, just lending a n ear to troubles was healing enough. She really quite a kind person. enginesofdemise said: zal said: Split personality? Do you actually think his overly-energetic demeanor this episode was genuine?They built up his tension this whole arc, he is becoming crazy with a split personality and a breakdown on her lap is enough to erase all that? If that's the case then it is cheap, for me such a sudden turn of heart is not convincing at all. They couldn't have made it any more clear that he acts happy and eccentric as a mask to cope with his crippling depression and constant paranoia. The fact that he was annoying was the entire point. Yeah, there should be no question about it. He has difficult task ahead of him without much of an idea how to approach it (with little to no help) on top of fear being hated and getting killed. It's natural that he would breakdown from it all. At the end of day he's only human and just boy at that. It's thanks to Emilia and Beako that he finally found some sense of relief and direction. It's all very well does and not something touch on in anime all that often. Certainly didn't feel cheap at all to me. Meh, if one doesn't care about the small important moments like that then won't like this series. |
Iron_MawMay 22, 2016 5:17 PM
Shrimperor said: Epicenter said: I'm not sure I'll give those two maids the benefit of a doubt of not being lolis, they're very near loli to me. Can i have your definition of Loli please? Characters that are children, or modeled to appear shaped like children, who are sexualized or clearly there to fit a fetish of people who are interested in that type of thing. I do realize that lolis do not need to be sexual to be lolis, they can just be made to appear like chilren, but usually when I use the term loli what I mean is they're there for the fetish and apparent money that is gained by apparent loli supporters, |
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