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| That ending... Looking forward to the next episode. |
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ttcchen said: beast_regards said: if they already know who he's working with, then they have no use keeping him and torturing him for information. This doesn't explain why they took him, if they suspected him from being a spy in the first place. Would they still try to kill him if he quits as soon as wakes up? It seems that conflict is unavoidable. and if you think about it this way, it should be pretty obvious who they'd doubt. subaru is very close to emilia, one of the successor of the king. but he acts very suspicious and sneaked around and lied that he's leaving when he only went to the forest to spy on the mansion (emilia). they'd probably think he's working for another successor to get rid of emilia, so that person can become the king. But while that's valid reason for this loop, the question still remains why would they kill him in previous 2 loops, assuming assassin(s) is/are the same. This loop, he acted suspiciously as hell, but in previous loops, he tried to fit in as a butler. True, they suspected him to be a spy (Roswall: "What about his potential as a spy?" Ram: "I can't say it doesn't exist, but the chance is slim"), but apart from being close to Emilia, there is no aparent reason why he should die. Aaaarrrrgggghhh, so many questions, so small rate of answers |
astroprogs said: If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you? Not air. |
Aurioch said: well, assuming it's rem killing him in the previous 2 loops, maybe she's acting on her own whim, despite her sister and the lord telling her he's harmless?ttcchen said: if they already know who he's working with, then they have no use keeping him and torturing him for information. and if you think about it this way, it should be pretty obvious who they'd doubt. subaru is very close to emilia, one of the successor of the king. but he acts very suspicious and sneaked around and lied that he's leaving when he only went to the forest to spy on the mansion (emilia). they'd probably think he's working for another successor to get rid of emilia, so that person can become the king. But while that's valid reason for this loop, the question still remains why would they kill him in previous 2 loops, assuming assassin(s) is/are the same. This loop, he acted suspiciously as hell, but in previous loops, he tried to fit in as a butler. True, they suspected him to be a spy (Roswall: "What about his potential as a spy?" Ram: "I can't say it doesn't exist, but the chance is slim"), but apart from being close to Emilia, there is no aparent reason why he should die. Aaaarrrrgggghhh, so many questions, so small rate of answers |
Fappa said: Maledict said: Well it's not that not much happened, in fact a lot happenedy It simply wasn't clearly visible from the outside and very subtle.How can so little happen in one episode yet I was still glued to the screen? The_Deceiver said: If the maid survives the arc I'm going to be really pissed. Why? We don't know her intentions nor the whole deal with this arc yet. Maybe it's Subaru who is at fault here, who knows. I know that this is the fantasy anime, but having at least a bit of realism would be cool, could you be fucking kind to someone who smashed your head? TWICE.. And I bet hes gonna end saving them both eventually.. because that's the way this kind of animes work. Also one more thing, the main girl and the boss of the mansion are probably aware of what is going on too.. and the main heroine situation will be resolved in the same way as the maid one. WITH OUR MC'S HUGE KIND AND LOVING HEART. |
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Fappa said: Didn't go as far as I wanted it to be but if it's for a more in depth scene about characterization and world building then I'm absolutely fine with it. So it's in fact episode 7 that is this monster of an episode, well waiting game now. I love that they are taking their time :) I also wonder what theories people will craft about why Rem hunts him down and what was the reason why he got so sick since Rem can't use magic that allows mana drain. Last episode, I predicted that he was poisoned, and that it was the result of an open wound that caused him to die. This time, however, I am almost fully convinced that it wasn't a poisoning or some sort of transmission of a pathogen through an open wound. It wasn't the direct result of magic or a curse either. So what could be the reason? It's completely Subaru's own fault. Let's look at what Betty said this episode "ああー、もつは全部戻したけど、血までは戻れなかったかしら" Stating that after the accident, they were able to restore his organs perfectly well, but not his blood. And since mana is like your life force, him feeling fatigued and weak could have simply been the direct result of acute anemia. Him constantly cutting himself and getting bit by the dog during the last two cycles should have been just enough to do the trick. I think that Rem was going to attack him regardless, but she just took advantage of him in his weakened state. Edit: Looking back at everyone else's theories. It is completely possible that he died a different way each time. My theory is as follows. Death 1: Died in his sleep from simple anemia. No attacker. Death 2: Developed anemia, snuck his way through the castle, was attacked for being suspicious. The only problem that I have with this theory is why would he seem suspicious in that scenario? He was very clearly in a terrible state, so it isn't unreasonable for him to look for help. Killer could have been Ram or Rem. The story wants us to make it seem like Rem was the killer in both scenarios, but that isn't necessarily true. Death 3: The "killer" (he's not dead yet) was Rem. My guess is that both maids wanted to kill him for different reasons. People suggested that it was out of jealousy for getting too close to the other sister, but I don't think that's it. Rather, I think that perhaps the reason that the attacker was Rem instead of Ram this time was that Subaru got very close to Ram in this cycle, and thus she couldn't bring herself to do it. In the previous cycle, he got close to Rem, but not Ram, so Ram was the attacker. They are both twins, so it isn't unreasonable for them both to fight with the same weapon. So perhaps...I think I got it! The blue and red demon story! The key is to befriend both. That's it! That has to be it! (Legitimate excitement for a theory that is more than likely completely wrong). fedaykin said: Holding a knife and staring at Emilia's room after pretending to leave. Yeah, I can't see any reason that could cause a hostile response! Yeah, I thought that was pretty silly of him, too. He had good intentions, but I think he lacked a little bit of forethought with that one. |
MegaShadowFistMay 9, 2016 10:21 AM
| Subaru is quite cool tbh I like him but... where is Reinhard? |
| Some theory crafting (with lots of screenshots :-)). |
mozgowMay 9, 2016 11:10 AM
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smoct_ai said: This episode proves how insanely dumb Subaru behaved in the previous loop (loop after first death in the mansion). What is the difference between the first loop and the second in this episode ? The answer: In the first loop in the mansion, he was well aware of the possibility that there might have been an attacker who killed him, while in the second loop in the mansion it was confirmed that there was really an attacker. He could have (and should have) done everything in the previous loop what he did in the second loop of this episode For example, As he was well aware of the possibility that there was an attacker in the previous loop, he could have (and should have) warned Pack about it, just he did in this episode. And he could have (and should have) asked Betty if there was any magical means to killing someone while he or she slept . And he could have (and should have) equipped him with some weapon (a knife as he did in this episode) just as he did in this episode. why? Because he was well aware that there might have been an unknown attacker who killed him. While a knife alone might not be enough to protect him against an attacker, it may helpful to earn some time, which means an increase of chances for him to survive. You're forgetting one thing: In previous loop, all Subaru knew is that he died in his sleep. He doesn't know how, he doesn't know whether a person killed him or something else. He had literally no resources to work with, so he spent whole loop trying to reenact the "original" with the purpose to determine the cause of his death. And it worked, because he learned that the curse affected him... and that there is someone who killed him using a weapon with chains. With new knowledge, he could act further to determine who the attacker is and how he should act to survive. |
astroprogs said: If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you? Not air. |
smoct_ai said: This episode proves how insanely dumb Subaru behaved in the previous loop (loop after first death in the mansion). What is the difference between the first loop and the second in this episode ? The answer: In the first loop in the mansion, he was well aware of the possibility that there might have been an attacker who killed him, while in the second loop in the mansion it was confirmed that there was really an attacker. He could have (and should have) done everything in the previous loop what he did in the second loop of this episode For example, As he was well aware of the possibility that there was an attacker in the previous loop, he could have (and should have) warned Pack about it, just he did in this episode. And he could have (and should have) asked Betty if there was any magical means to killing someone while he or she slept . And he could have (and should have) equipped him with some weapon (a knife as he did in this episode) just as he did in this episode. why? Because he was well aware that there might have been an unknown attacker who killed him. While a knife alone might not be enough to protect him against an attacker, it may helpful to earn some time, which means an increase of chances for him to survive. Except he could not since literally everything he did here was because of information he gathered in previous loop by replicating the situation and SEEING how he died. |
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smoct_ai said: And he could have (and should have) asked Betty if there was any magical means to killing someone while he or she slept . He could have been killed through ordinary means. He doesn't know, how he was killed before the first revive. So why would he ask, whether there is a way to kill someone like that, if a knife could have done the same job? Or he could have had a heart attack? Yes, it's far-fetched, but there are many ways to die. |
Re:Zero nice troll ending.  |
ttcchen said: Aurioch said: well, assuming it's rem killing him in the previous 2 loops, maybe she's acting on her own whim, despite her sister and the lord telling her he's harmless?But while that's valid reason for this loop, the question still remains why would they kill him in previous 2 loops, assuming assassin(s) is/are the same. This loop, he acted suspiciously as hell, but in previous loops, he tried to fit in as a butler. True, they suspected him to be a spy (Roswall: "What about his potential as a spy?" Ram: "I can't say it doesn't exist, but the chance is slim"), but apart from being close to Emilia, there is no aparent reason why he should die. Aaaarrrrgggghhh, so many questions, so small rate of answers Actors in the conflict seems to be the same i.e. he was bound to run into Elsa each every loop, always in same place and always with the same motive. Sure, it is literally only instance I can build my hypothesis, but it if fair to assume that he always faces the same "Scripted" event. This is the feeling I have from the story. |
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The_Deceiver said: I know that this is the fantasy anime, but having at least a bit of realism would be cool, could you be fucking kind to someone who smashed your head? TWICE.. And I bet hes gonna end saving them both eventually.. because that's the way this kind of animes work. Also one more thing, the main girl and the boss of the mansion are probably aware of what is going on too.. and the main heroine situation will be resolved in the same way as the maid one. WITH OUR MC'S HUGE KIND AND LOVING HEART. Ah this is great. People still think this will go after the same old anime logic. Well you couldn't be more wrong but see for yourself with the next episodes :) |
| so it was Rem! i did not see that coming at all |
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Fai said: kidlat020 said: this page heavily disagrees. I'm really mad that the anime didn't adapted this implication as the manga did. btw this is 1st loop, so not spoilers. and she's keeping herself quiet. that's the even bigger mystery. http://www.mangahere.co/manga/re_zero_kara_hajimeru_isekai_seikatsu_dainishou_yashiki_no_shuukan_hen/c004/27.html That has nothing to do with the loops. There's absolutely nothing to indicate she is talking about the loops and not, oh I don't know - the fact that he is about to get killed. Especially since it happens just before he gets killed. The logical implication is easy to understand - she knows something bad is about to happen but does not feel like its her business. Again she literally said about "meeting him twice" this episode which literally indicates she has no idea about loops. There's absolutely no indication otherwise. She indicated that she have a memory of previous encounter. It doesn't have to necessarily mean that she is aware of the fact that events are indeed looping, but she seems to have a memory of previous encounters. It is possible that from her perspective events are linear. No one else in the setting remembers the previous loops because they didn't happened from their POV and authors went to great length to show that Satoru's progress in previous loops is lost. Yet they suddenly went mentioning that someone other than Satoru have a memory of the event. Why? Unless it's a line that is suppose to confuse the viewers and enforce the sense of mystery. |
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Aurioch said: You're forgetting one thing: In previous loop, all Subaru knew is that he died in his sleep. He doesn't know how, he doesn't know whether a person killed him or something else. He had literally no resources to work with, so he spent whole loop trying to reenact the "original" with the purpose to determine the cause of his death. And it worked, because he learned that the curse affected him... and that there is someone who killed him using a weapon with chains. With new knowledge, he could act further to determine who the attacker is and how he should act to survive. Fai said: Except he could not since literally everything he did here was because of information he gathered in previous loop by replicating the situation and SEEING how he died. I'm amazed how some people keep missing this simple fact. The only reason he got anywhere in this loop was thanks to him repeating his actions in the 2nd loop TO CONFIRM HOW HE DIED (whether it be homicide or accidental). And not... you know make up baseless conjectures. If you want to find out something you need leads to begin with. Yet, their the ones good around calling him an idiot which is ironic. Mhiraa_Asuka said: in EP5 Roswaal was shared with the Subaru , Subaru felt dizzy after taking a shower . And Ram said he would use force in their conversation .. I think thats make subaru exposed to magic when asleep ..RAM that has killed Subaru in EP5... becauuse Subaru choose the different way in Ep6 the story is change... I think that was more because he was in bath too long. XD |
Iron_MawMay 9, 2016 12:40 PM
smoct_ai said: He did not plan to sacrifice this iteration. Pay attention to what he said at 13:17 in EP 6. But that doesn't mean I intend to treat this as a throwaway life. He thought that he should be concerned as much about surviving this time as about gathering info and finding out the identity of the killer. Uhm he was saying that he won't handle this life as a throwaway like in - I will try to survive if the killer appears though. I will struggle to survive in order to get more information -. He decided to not survive this loop and use the information he gets in this iteration to make the next loop "perfect". You can see that he has faced the fact that he will die when he pulls out the knife. When he said "She'd probably get mad at me for using it that way" he was referring to killing himself if the killer doesn't appear. This means he was determined to die whether it is through someone else or his own hands. It gets even clearer when he reminds himself of the consequences of a reset and that he still doesn't want to die but he has to. |
FappaMay 9, 2016 12:54 PM
| The twins seem to perk up every time Subaru mentions demons or Ogres so my guess is that they are Ogres and that story he told was probably 100% on up to the point where the ogres seperated. |
Around and around the cycle goes. |
No shit? Because he encountered Beatrice and got his mana sucked and that event is BEFORE the checkpoint so no shit she has already met him once when every loop starts. The first encounter with her and the mana sucking happened before the autosave point which was waking up to the maids. She mentions it and that leads to Subaru figuring out that the autosave is the moment he woke up to the maids.Thats just it and nothing more. |
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smoct_ai said: Aurioch said: You're forgetting one thing: In previous loop, all Subaru knew is that he died in his sleep. He doesn't know how, he doesn't know whether a person killed him or something else. He had literally no resources to work with, so he spent whole loop trying to reenact the "original" with the purpose to determine the cause of his death. And it worked, because he learned that the curse affected him... and that there is someone who killed him using a weapon with chains. With new knowledge, he could act further to determine who the attacker is and how he should act to survive. As I said, Subaru knew that there was a good deal of possibility of someone having killed him in his sleep in the previous loop. That is a compelling reason for doing everything he did in this episode (asking about any magical means to killing someone secretly in his/her sleep, warning pack about a possible attack, equipping with any weapon possibly helpful to protect him, at least to earn some time to increase his chance of surviving). Yeah, Subaru knew of the possibility. That still doesn't change the fact that he had literally no other clue apart from that he died in his sleep. Assumption that, for example, there was some sort of accident during night that killed him is as strong as assumption of the killer. And assumption that he was a collateral is also as strong as assumption that he was a target. Think about it, there are multiple candidates for a throne, it makes sense that an opposing faction would've sent an assassin to take Emilia's life. The reason he could ask Betty about that specific question ("Is there magic which can kill person while he's sleeping") is because he found out that he was the target, not anyone else. Once he found out that he was a target and a way he was killed, he could act more proactively. |
astroprogs said: If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you? Not air. |
| Somehow I guessed that if it's only one of the sisters, it'd be Rem. The way she reacted to the demon talk and also her sister not wanting her to hear the ogre story. Kinda boring episode again, but the ending was fine. I hope the story will continue in the next ep. |
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I just read some new posts in discussion thread for previous episodes and something struck me about this image I posted earlier Why we do not see Rem's right eye and Roswaal's right eye is blue? Similarly, why we do not see Ram's left eye but this time Roswaal left eye is yellow? I really doubt it's just a coincidence (but I might be just overthinking it :-P). Is this also some kind of proof that twins made contract with Roswaal? Then why is the left eye yellow and not red? Can't make heads or tails of it. |
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Fappa said: smoct_ai said: He did not plan to sacrifice this iteration. Pay attention to what he said at 13:17 in EP 6. He thought that he should be concerned as much about surviving this time as about gathering info and finding out the identity of the killer. Uhm he was saying that he won't handle this life as a throwaway like in - I will try to survive if the killer appears though. I will struggle to survive in order to get more information -. He decided to not survive this loop and use the information he gets in this iteration to make the next loop "perfect". You can see that he has faced the fact that he will die when he pulls out the knife. When he said "She'd probably get mad at me for using it that way" he was referring to killing himself if the killer doesn't appear. This means he was determined to die whether it is through someone else or his own hands. It gets even clearer when he reminds himself of the consequences of a reset and that he still doesn't want to die but he has to. Thanks, you saved me the trouble having to explain that. Subaru also mentions he doesn't know if he's only target or not. He always dies first so he has no idea what happens afterwards. So if his action changed the priority order of the assassin and one of the people in mansion died instead then plans to kill himself to return to the past. |
Iron_MawMay 9, 2016 2:27 PM
| Nice to see Subaru using his brain here to try and figure out who killed him. He knew he was going to die, so by seeing the killers face he actually gained some useful information. I'm sure waking up to see Rem again is seriously going to disturb him. I guess the way to get out of either twins killing him is to befriend both. I have a feeling even if he does get out of this loop, there will be a third threat outside of the twins. Hopefully we'll get to see Reinhard and Felt sometime soon. Even though Emelia is cute, rn she's not really adding to the storyline, other than being a vehicle for making Subaru suspicious, so I hope she can become more relevant in the next few episodes. Can't wait to see this get wrapped up next episode. 4/5 |
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tinybunnvevo said: Nice to see Subaru using his brain here to try and figure out who killed him. He knew he was going to die, so by seeing the killers face he actually gained some useful information. I'm sure waking up to see Rem again is seriously going to disturb him. I guess the way to get out of either twins killing him is to befriend both. I have a feeling even if he does get out of this loop, there will be a third threat outside of the twins. Hopefully we'll get to see Reinhard and Felt sometime soon. Even though Emelia is cute, rn she's not really adding to the storyline, other than being a vehicle for making Subaru suspicious, so I hope she can become more relevant in the next few episodes. Can't wait to see this get wrapped up next episode. 4/5 There are heavy implications in the ending, what could happen between Subaru and her. |
Re:Zero nice troll ending. |
| Emilia's smile is the only thing that never ceases to amaze me, everytime that he dies and wakes up, she is always smiling. Best girl <3 And that ending...woooooooooow! I was going to comment that Ram probably knows something...but after that ending, damn... I never never never expected this to happen. I think that's why Ram said something like "don't tell that story to my sister", so probably she killed him because she is jealous that Subaru prefers her sister over her. Damn can't wait for next episode! |
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Sometimes791 said: tinybunnvevo said: Nice to see Subaru using his brain here to try and figure out who killed him. He knew he was going to die, so by seeing the killers face he actually gained some useful information. I'm sure waking up to see Rem again is seriously going to disturb him. I guess the way to get out of either twins killing him is to befriend both. I have a feeling even if he does get out of this loop, there will be a third threat outside of the twins. Hopefully we'll get to see Reinhard and Felt sometime soon. Even though Emelia is cute, rn she's not really adding to the storyline, other than being a vehicle for making Subaru suspicious, so I hope she can become more relevant in the next few episodes. Can't wait to see this get wrapped up next episode. 4/5 There are heavy implications in the ending, what could happen between Subaru and her. Are you talking about Emelia? |
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Shoko-tan said: Subaru is quite cool tbh I like him but... where is Reinhard? he's currently doing "fun time" with Felt /gg |
| >I had no brain when I was 12 >Then everyone must had no brain when they were 12 >I experimented 100 samples and proved that they had no brain when they were 12 >Therefore children cannot consent This is what science has done to humanity. |
| Something interesting that I found in the OP video, so are there two killers? Where in this episode, Subaru gets closer with Ram, so Rem kills him. In the previous episode, Subaru gets closer with Rem, so Ram kills him? Pink chain = Ram? Blue chain = Rem?  Also, the reversed Emilia's shadow. If Rem's cute smile can be the killer, then this means Emilia is also evil! Why is everyone evil to Subaru lol.  |
| Hmm, I don't think the chains mean much, the mirrored shadow has been pointed out before and yes it is indeed interesting. |
| Just one more episode and it'll be caught up to manga, can't wait to see who the shaman is! |
Fai said: No shit? Because he encountered Beatrice and got his mana sucked and that event is BEFORE the checkpoint so no shit she has already met him once when every loop starts. The first encounter with her and the mana sucking happened before the autosave point which was waking up to the maids.. I didn't realize that he woke up on his own first time, went exploring the mansion and ran into Beatrice. |
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| Thought the killer would be the redhead sister. hmmmmmm |
why is nobody pointing out Subaru's shadow here? it's also reversed just as Emilia's. you guys are overthinking its just some water reflection doing double refraction or something. |
| >I had no brain when I was 12 >Then everyone must had no brain when they were 12 >I experimented 100 samples and proved that they had no brain when they were 12 >Therefore children cannot consent This is what science has done to humanity. |
kidlat020 said: why is nobody pointing out Subaru's shadow here? it's also reversed just as Emilia's. you guys are overthinking its just some water reflection doing double refraction or something. Wat? Subaru's shadow is perfectly fine. If he was to fall over he'd fit perfectly. There's something going one with Emilia's past or lineage that is being foreshadowed with this still. |
| Big Order (TV):great anime or greatest anime? |
| Wth was that I want more! |
| So the part with the Red Ogre & Blue Ogre tale was really nice...I liked that a lot. The part with the credits on top of it at the very end should have started mid-ep I mean, seriously? I get the cliffhanger thing but NO NO NO I want any/all action sequences at the peak of the ep and not to be thrown under the credits, lasting a minute or two. *^* Also, where is Reinhard? I need him. If I don't get to see that sword fully unsheathed and The Slash...oh no why does everything I say about Nakamura Yuuichi charas start to sound lewd in some way..? Sorry...Yuukyan is my favorite seiyuu. It can't be helped. XD,,, Please next ep, Reinhard. |
| So Rem is the killer, but I think it was Ram in the last episode. They seems very connected, I wonder how that will be explained in the future. Great episode, the tension was at his highest. |
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