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Mar 18, 2016 12:37 PM

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Just like most people, they haven't been exposed to 'that' anime. As simple as that.
Mar 18, 2016 1:13 PM

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Maylis said:
I'm sorry but this confuses me. SOOOOO many people that I have met, have said that they hate anime. They say they don't see the point in it and think it's stupid. But then they love cartoons like fairy god parents. How the hell? Anime is pretty much cartoons but we better graphics! What do you guys think? If you understand why people say this, please explain it to me ;-;

Easy!

If they think of anime they either think of stuff like Yugioh and Pokemon, wich is clearly repetetive and boring or Semi-hentai shit like Highschool DxD and their ilk. I can't blame them. If you look up Anime on google you find lolis, pantyshots and boobs next to articles about virgin-otakus and their pillows. This puts people off anime, a lot. Especially the lolicon/Ecchi-Fandom, that is, not completly unjustified, viewed as creepy and kinda pedo.

If i had been introduced to anime at it's current stage i am not sure if i would have gotten interested in it. SAO made it even worse since a lot of people recommend it while it is in fact pretty bad. The best way to introduce people to anime as a form of art are still Ghilbi-movies that are widely known and highly-rated even among people that have no idea what anime is.
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Mar 18, 2016 1:52 PM

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Most people who say anything along those lines are probably stuck in that bubble where they think all anime can be is porn and monsters fighting cute girls or whatever. Try not to let it bother you and try and make them find the error of their ways.

Some it might just be preference.. idk. I like western cartoons as well and can definitely see how some can prefer that over anime (I prefer anime personally). Most just aren't exposed to enough of either side.
Mar 18, 2016 6:31 PM

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Game - Graphics.
Jeez really? lol :P

My top anime of 2016 for now:
✗ Haifuri
✗ Mayoiga

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The only thing Anime has over cartoons is style, diversity and sometimes story imo ( I can find an anime almost about anything )

The West ( America ) still shits on Japan in terms of animation.
Mar 18, 2016 8:47 PM

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Laugasts said:
The only thing Anime has over cartoons is style, diversity and sometimes story


Characters are a huge one. Can you think of many cartoons that have characters as complex as anime?



Mar 18, 2016 8:50 PM

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Rayzer said:

And I really hate it when people saw me watching DC Comics and Marvel Comics animated series.
Then says "You are already old, And still watching Cartoons?"
Damn it, I always wanted to punch them on the face!


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If anyone asks, tell them you have Chiibi's permission to punch them in the face. 100%. :)



Mar 18, 2016 8:55 PM

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I hear this a lot, especially from my friend who loves to bash anime but also loves Dragon Ball Z. I think they try to use it as an excuse, like they try to say that DBZ is a cartoon, not an anime. If he was old enough to watch DBZ on Cartoon Network at its prime, I would say okay yeah sure, but that is not the case...
Mar 18, 2016 8:55 PM

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nexu101 said:
I hear this a lot, especially from my friend who loves to bash anime but also loves Dragon Ball Z. I think they try to use it as an excuse, like they try to say that DBZ is a cartoon, not an anime. If he was old enough to watch DBZ on Cartoon Network at its prime, I would say okay yeah sure, but that is not the case...
oh i forgot to say that they watch the sub, not dub lol
Mar 18, 2016 9:00 PM

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Chiibi said:
Laugasts said:
The only thing Anime has over cartoons is style, diversity and sometimes story


Characters are a huge one. Can you think of many cartoons that have characters as complex as anime?
Flame Princess is a better character than a typical female anime tsundere, Finn, Pearl, Miss Martian, Gods and Monsters Superman, Rigby, All Star Superman Lex Luthor, Emma Frost from Wolverine and the X men, DCAU Harley.
Mar 18, 2016 9:04 PM

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DrGeroCreation said:
Chiibi said:


Characters are a huge one. Can you think of many cartoons that have characters as complex as anime?
Flame Princess is a better character than a typical female anime tsundere, Finn, Pearl, Miss Martian, Gods and Monsters Superman, Rigby, All Star Superman Lex Luthor, Emma Frost from Wolverine and the X men, DCAU Harley.


For every good Western animation character though, you are going to get at least 50 anime characters who have more development and layers. Because there are more anime series than cartoon series and said anime series are much longer so they can afford the time it take to write a developed character.



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Chiibi said:
DrGeroCreation said:
Flame Princess is a better character than a typical female anime tsundere, Finn, Pearl, Miss Martian, Gods and Monsters Superman, Rigby, All Star Superman Lex Luthor, Emma Frost from Wolverine and the X men, DCAU Harley.


For every good Western animation character though, you are going to get at least 50 anime characters who have more development and layers. Because there are more anime series than cartoon series and said anime series are much longer so they can afford the time it take to write a developed character.
Not too sure about that, well the last part. Most late night anime are short and not episodic. Western cartoons tend to be long and episodic so there is more time for character focus.

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Bruh you just have thing for girls in hero suits lol.
I do like the tights, leotards and skirts they wear but that's beside the point.

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;P, I watch more of the ''childish'' ones or fantasy-like.
And I ddn't come across a lot of these elements, but it looks like
those things do exist in cartoons ;).
Well yeah you wouldn't see that type of content in kids cartoons although kids cartoons can have hidden sexual innuendo and violence (not gore).
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Cartoons and Anime are a like. when you think of cartoons you think of spongebob or something like that and when you think of anime you think DBZ or something like that but they both have kids, teen, and adult animation but sense there's more mature animation in "Anime" than "Cartoon" people think that cartoon are for kids and anime are for the mature. So basically what I'm trying to say is even though they sound different there mostly alike and anyone who shuns either don't know or haven't seen all the categories that they both offer.

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Insane_Testicle said:
Cartoons and Anime are a like. when you think of cartoons you think of spongebob or something like that and when you think of anime you think DBZ or something like that but they both have kids, teen, and adult animation but sense there's more mature animation in "Anime" than "Cartoon" people think that cartoon are for kids and anime are for the mature. So basically what I'm trying to say is even though they sound different there mostly alike and anyone who shuns either don't know or haven't seen all the categories that they both offer.



That made some sense, lol xD. That's pretty much what people in my class think of anime and cartoons (non-watchers, tho).

But the topic was about people that think cartoons are stupid? While they think anime is better and vice versa ( those are likely cartoons/anime watchers).

Because you can't say cartoons are stupid if you have never watched more than a few series, right? And vice versa. So I think those ''haters''
have watched more than 10 series (in anime/cartoons)?

Mar 19, 2016 12:18 AM

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Anime ARE cartoons...Jesus just stop it...
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A lot of people on MAL actually think this way tbh.

But that's just because anime is still literally foreign to them, and they have no problem with saying there are no bad Western cartoons at all.

That being said cartoons and anime are the exact same thing.
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Maylis said:
I'm sorry but this confuses me. SOOOOO many people that I have met, have said that they hate anime. They say they don't see the point in it and think it's stupid. But then they love cartoons like fairy god parents. How the hell? Anime is pretty much cartoons but we better graphics! What do you guys think? If you understand why people say this, please explain it to me ;-;


people that like cartoons don't want to watch anime because of language and violence as well as sexualized themes but you won't find them on MAL so we are safe from those kinds of people.


Oh yes, I've met the people who are weirded out by anime's sexuality.

I don't get them. It's just sex.
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Mar 19, 2016 6:40 AM

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JustALEX said:
Anime ARE cartoons...Jesus just stop it...


You haven't figured out that we use "cartoons" to refer to western animation only?



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Nico- said:
A lot of people on MAL actually think this way tbh.

But that's just because anime is still literally foreign to them, and they have no problem with saying there are no bad Western cartoons at all.


"A lot of people on MAL actually think this way tbh"

I don't think there is a single person on MAL who says that they don't like anime, it's the reason we are all here.

But that's just because anime is still literally foreign to them, and they have no problem with saying there are no bad Western cartoons at all

Nobody has ever said that, show me one time anyone has ever said that.
Mar 19, 2016 6:52 AM

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Cartoons are mostly based on comedy, and many times, a ridiculous type comedy (i'm not saying this is bad)
Anime is different. You have a huge variety of content for all ages.
People just don't understand it. If they get into anime, for example a good one with a well written story and awesome characters, he/she might change his/her mind
Mar 19, 2016 1:44 PM

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Sorry, I don't even know that cartoon, and I don't have the interest of knowing it further. Also, if you think that it's great, then it's great (only for you). That's only one out of many though. And good anime aren't only about superheroes, there are plenty of Romace anime that could beat that genre.

You can say only one, but I could say plenty.

Boku Dake ga Inai Machi (Best Mystery anime of Winter 2016)
Akatsuki no Yona
Fate/Zero
Fate/Stay Night Unlimited Blade Works 2014
Code Geass
Magi
Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood
Hai to Gensou no Grimgar
Ghost Hunt
Haikyuu!!
Kuroko no Basket
Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo!
Kuroshitsuji
Mobile Suit Gundam 00
Nanatsu no Taizai
Psycho Pass
Shokugeki no Souma
Gate: Jieitai Kanochi nite, Kaku Tatakaeri
Durarara!!
Dimension W
Akagami no Shirayuki-hime
Ajin
Shingeki no Kyoujin
Natsume Yuujichou
And many more... =P

Good upcoming Spring anime for me.

Bungou Stary Dogs
Magi: Sinbad no Bouken



Of those, I'm only familiar with Haikyuu and Shokugeki no Souma (read the manga for this one). And I can honestly say they are nowhere near Steven Universe's greatness. Actually, the first episodes of the SnS anime are inferior to the manga, because it exaggerates the comedy way too much. Also, I dunno about the anime, but the Shingeki no Kyojin manga is really bad, I dropped it.

I'm saying one, because that's the one that is most worth mentioning imo, but there's others as well that are very good: Wander over Yonder, We Bare Bears, Svtfoe, Gargoyles... I can't say much because I haven't watched that many cartoons, nor have I watched that many anime (in fact, I've watched more anime than cartoons)

And look, I'm not trying to say cartoons>anime, just that they have the same potential. If you have a prejudice against cartoons, you'll be missing lots of good things. When I saw SU for the first time, I thought it was bad or bland and boring, and that kinda kept on until I passed the 25th episode. Then, it took a 180 degree turn, using those first 25 episodes as a build up, and practically keeping its quality consistent since then. Now it's one of the best pieces of fiction I've seen in my life.
So I googled Steven Universe........ Are you trolling me?! XDDD Like WTF?! LMAO!!!

I was dumbfounded and my thoughts was.... "Only 6 years old kids can say that this is the greatest anime ever..." Like really... WTF did I just saw, is this really on par with Boku Dake ga Inai Machi, Magi, Nanatsu no Taizai, Akatsuki no Yona, Gate: Jieitai Kanochi nite Kaku Tatakaeri, Fate/Zero and so on? What I've seen will trully haunt me!

Well, that's your OWN taste and opinion so I can't do anything about that. XD
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DarkAngel1221 said:

I was dumbfounded and my thoughts was.... "Only 6 years old kids can say that this is the greatest anime ever..." Like really... WTF did I just saw, is this really on par with Boku Dake ga Inai Machi, Magi, Nanatsu no Taizai, Akatsuki no Yona, Gate: Jieitai Kanochi nite Kaku Tatakaeri, Fate/Zero and so on? What I've seen will trully haunt me!

Well, that's your OWN taste and opinion so I can't do anything about that. XD


I'm sorry, but the childish one here is you, by labeling something bad based on a "Google" search. Watch the show until the end of the first season, and then we can discuss. Otherwise, this is just prejudice of yours. To be fair, I also thought it was bad when I saw it, but how wrong was I...

Also, I hate Nanatsu no Taizai. It has the worst female lead I've ever seen and it's impossible to be taken seriously, given the amount of jokes it throws, ruining completely immersion.
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starlessn1ght said:
DarkAngel1221 said:

I was dumbfounded and my thoughts was.... "Only 6 years old kids can say that this is the greatest anime ever..." Like really... WTF did I just saw, is this really on par with Boku Dake ga Inai Machi, Magi, Nanatsu no Taizai, Akatsuki no Yona, Gate: Jieitai Kanochi nite Kaku Tatakaeri, Fate/Zero and so on? What I've seen will trully haunt me!

Well, that's your OWN taste and opinion so I can't do anything about that. XD


I'm sorry, but the childish one here is you, by labeling something bad based on a "Google" search. Watch the show until the end of the first season, and then we can discuss. Otherwise, this is just prejudice of yours. To be fair, I also thought it was bad when I saw it, but how wrong was I...

Also, I hate Nanatsu no Taizai. It has the worst female lead I've ever seen and it's impossible to be taken seriously, given the amount of jokes it throws, ruining completely immersion.


you tell me this piece of shit is better than anime?
not even close to be in the level of boku no pico xD
ahahhaa stop trolling plz
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Reported for shitposting. :'D
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Please learn about cel animation and its technical process.
Learn how special effects and backlighting were done without computers.

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starlessn1ght said:
DarkAngel1221 said:

I was dumbfounded and my thoughts was.... "Only 6 years old kids can say that this is the greatest anime ever..." Like really... WTF did I just saw, is this really on par with Boku Dake ga Inai Machi, Magi, Nanatsu no Taizai, Akatsuki no Yona, Gate: Jieitai Kanochi nite Kaku Tatakaeri, Fate/Zero and so on? What I've seen will trully haunt me!

Well, that's your OWN taste and opinion so I can't do anything about that. XD


I'm sorry, but the childish one here is you, by labeling something bad based on a "Google" search. Watch the show until the end of the first season, and then we can discuss. Otherwise, this is just prejudice of yours. To be fair, I also thought it was bad when I saw it, but how wrong was I...

Also, I hate Nanatsu no Taizai. It has the worst female lead I've ever seen and it's impossible to be taken seriously, given the amount of jokes it throws, ruining completely immersion.
I did try the episode one, I didn't even lasted for a minute. Even my family asked "what the hell are you watching? Do you wanna go back as a kid?...", It gave me so much sweat and I said I was just checking it. Like, really... LMAO!!!

Well, like I said... You have your own taste, I can't do anything about that! XD

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starlessn1ght said:


I'm sorry, but the childish one here is you, by labeling something bad based on a "Google" search. Watch the show until the end of the first season, and then we can discuss. Otherwise, this is just prejudice of yours. To be fair, I also thought it was bad when I saw it, but how wrong was I...

Also, I hate Nanatsu no Taizai. It has the worst female lead I've ever seen and it's impossible to be taken seriously, given the amount of jokes it throws, ruining completely immersion.


you tell me this piece of shit is better than anime?
not even close to be in the level of boku no pico xD
ahahhaa stop trolling plz
LOL This comment made be burst of laughter!! XDD
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I did try the episode one, I didn't even lasted for a minute. Even my family asked "what the hell are you watching? Do you wanna go back as a kid?...", It gave me so much sweat and I said I was just checking it. Like, really... LMAO!!!

Well, like I said... You have your own taste, I can't do anything about that! XD


I also did not like the first episode. Nor the eps until the 25th. That time it shifted 180 degree and holy shit it became really awesome. Like, flat characters being developed and becoming three-dimensional, the plot taking shape and getting me hooked, the answers to the questions appearing and more questions being raised.

I just watched until the 25th because people said it would get better. And it did.

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you tell me this piece of shit is better than anime?
not even close to be in the level of boku no pico xD
ahahhaa stop trolling plz


Okay, except I never said that? I didn't say it was better than anime, I said it was better than A LOT of anime I've watched. Perhaps NNB is better or the same, I'm just saying it's awesome and it's a pity you and others have preconceived notions about "children cartoons" based on stereotypes and the looks of it (the stupidity goes so far to the point you call it shit without even watching).

I think anime is a great medium. But so are Western cartoons. Each of them have their own ways of telling stories. People may dismiss some anime because it looks 'ecchi' or 'moe' or 'generic', but some of those have great stories beneath the surface. The same happens with cartoons. They may have childish stuff with childish jokes, but in many cases, that's just the surface. Like Steven Universe. SU is a commentary on 'humans' from an outside view fantasied as a children's show. There are many things on it children will definitely not understand.
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The only western cartoons I am interested in watching are steven universe, rick and morty, adventure time and gravity falls. TLA (not korra) and futurama (seasons like 1-5 + movies) are the only western cartoons that I've seen and really like so far.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
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One of my friends is like that. He enjoyed Kill la Kill but he said he'd choose Looney Toons over it any day.
Cartoons rarely tell good stories in my opinion, anime does heaps of the time though.
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Maylis said:
I'm sorry but this confuses me. SOOOOO many people that I have met, have said that they hate anime. They say they don't see the point in it and think it's stupid. But then they love cartoons like fairy god parents. How the hell? Anime is pretty much cartoons but we better graphics! What do you guys think? If you understand why people say this, please explain it to me ;-;



It's cause they think it's in Japanese, and they'll have to read. Most Americans are simple, ignorant, and hate reading.

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"Dude, most of the cartoons you watched were japanime and you didn't even know it."
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From my experience with western cartoons, anime characters are a lot more likely to look realistic enough to be attractive.
DC superhero cartoons are far more realistic looking because the characters have actual noses , lips and more normal eyes. I find animated DC superheroines to be far more attractive than anime girls even though there are anime girls I find attractive. However I don't think looking realistic has anything to do with attraction considering a lot of fans like moe girl characters who look extremely unrealistic with super huge eyes and blobby faces.


But DC superheroes uses the exact same body mold for the male and female characters with little to no variation other than skin tone, hair style/color, and eye color. Superman and Batman look like the same man wearing different costumes. Anime has a multitude of body shapes and ages. And the lip service comes in with the closeup, duh.

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Why do you even notice that? I don't even see those things, unless you likes to watch Ecchi... Man, what a pervert you're even looking at the panties. =P


There's a panty shot of 11 year old Shiro complete with full outline of vagina within the first minute of NGNL.


Yeah, i've seen Tomoki's pantsu too, what of it~?

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That's the first time I've heard "better graphics" used in favour of anime over Western animation.

Really?
Really.

Discounting superhero based cartons that is.

Alll those spongboob, family gay, etc shows look like shit
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l0li_m0e_ya0i said:
Bobby2Hands said:


There's a panty shot of 11 year old Shiro complete with full outline of vagina within the first minute of NGNL.


Yeah, i've seen Tomoki's pantsu too, what of it~?



That's fan art, it's not actually a shot from Watamote.

But this is an actual shot from NGNL.
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Bobby2Hands said:
l0li_m0e_ya0i said:


Yeah, i've seen Tomoki's pantsu too, what of it~?



That's fan art, it's not actually a shot from Watamote.

But this is an actual shot from NGNL.


Yes I am aware of how delicious Shiro is, you don't have to prove it to me~

Oh, are you more of the boxer-brief type?



Can't you at least embrace your waifu's love for her puni-puni friend?

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Bobby2Hands said:


That's fan art, it's not actually a shot from Watamote.

But this is an actual shot from NGNL.


Yes I am aware of how delicious Shiro is, you don't have to prove it to me~

Oh, are you more of the boxer-brief type?



Can't you at least embrace your waifu's love for her puni-puni friend?



I'll have you know that my waifu isn't Tomoko, it's Holo from Spice and Wolf :p

And again those are fan art.
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Bobby2Hands said:
l0li_m0e_ya0i said:


Yes I am aware of how delicious Shiro is, you don't have to prove it to me~

Oh, are you more of the boxer-brief type?



Can't you at least embrace your waifu's love for her puni-puni friend?



I'll have you know that my waifu isn't Tomoko, it's Holo from Spice and Wolf :p

And again those are fan art.


Are you denying the fact that Tomoki's tried to grope her bestie? That is all official artwork from the animator.

And you surely can't mean this Holo, because in case you didn't know...she likes to get naked.

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I'll have you know that my waifu isn't Tomoko, it's Holo from Spice and Wolf :p

And again those are fan art.


Are you denying the fact that Tomoki's tried to grope her bestie? That is all official artwork from the animator.

And you surely can't mean this Holo, because in case you didn't know...she likes to get naked.



I don't have a problem with nudity when the characters are at the very least teenagers and there is some point to the nudity.

Tomoko (15 year old teenager) gropes her friend because she is lonely and has no social skills.

Holo (at least teenage in appearance) appears nude to start with because...well wolves don't wear clothes.

Shiro (an 11 year old child) has her panties shown for absoloutely no reason except to pander to the loli loving auidence.

Can you really not tell the difference?
Let me reapeat I don't have a problem with nudity but can it at least be among post-pubescent characters and can there be at least some reason for it?
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same here i tried to watch anime didn't like it cartoons are way better.
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l0li_m0e_ya0i said:
Bobby2Hands said:


I'll have you know that my waifu isn't Tomoko, it's Holo from Spice and Wolf :p

And again those are fan art.


Are you denying the fact that Tomoki's tried to grope her bestie? That is all official artwork from the animator.

And you surely can't mean this Holo, because in case you didn't know...she likes to get naked.


"He said that x character had a fanservice scene for x reason so let me show of y characters that he likes that also have fanservice scenes even though they don't fall under x reason."

Good argument m8.
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Bobby2Hands said:
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Are you denying the fact that Tomoki's tried to grope her bestie? That is all official artwork from the animator.

And you surely can't mean this Holo, because in case you didn't know...she likes to get naked.



I don't have a problem with nudity when the characters are at the very least teenagers and there is some point to the nudity.

Tomoko (15 year old teenager) gropes her friend because she is lonely and has no social skills.

Holo (at least teenage in appearance) appears nude to start with because...well wolves don't wear clothes.

Shiro (an 11 year old child) has her panties shown for absoloutely no reason except to pander to the loli loving auidence.

Can you really not tell the difference?


So it's okay to pander if it's slight yuri or furry, but not loli? Fan service is okay as long as it is the type you are okay with or the kind that makes sense to you? Fan service is fan service, whether it is explained by the "plot" or is there just to be there. And of course I know they are different types~ Tomoki even gives us the otomege loving fujoshi service after all.
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I hear this a lot, my friends are so, hate anime but love cartoons, is simple to explain the reason, for the people anime is Naruto,if you ask for a person like anime she will think of Naruto not,ecchi,horror, or some other genre, people not know and criticize, hypocrites.
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l0li_m0e_ya0i said:
Bobby2Hands said:


I don't have a problem with nudity when the characters are at the very least teenagers and there is some point to the nudity.

Tomoko (15 year old teenager) gropes her friend because she is lonely and has no social skills.

Holo (at least teenage in appearance) appears nude to start with because...well wolves don't wear clothes.

Shiro (an 11 year old child) has her panties shown for absoloutely no reason except to pander to the loli loving auidence.

Can you really not tell the difference?


So it's okay to pander if it's slight yuri or furry, but not loli? Fan service is okay as long as it is the type you are okay with or the kind that makes sense to you? Fan service is fan service, whether it is explained by the "plot" or is there just to be there. And of course I know they are different types~ Tomoki even gives us the otomege loving fujoshi service after all.


No, I'm sorry fanservice is not just fanservice. Nudity with an actual narrative reason is not fanservice.

Fanservice = thrown in just to please the fans.
Mar 20, 2016 8:01 AM

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They are both for kids and should be treat as such.

Mar 20, 2016 8:03 AM
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RainyRai said:
l0li_m0e_ya0i said:


Are you denying the fact that Tomoki's tried to grope her bestie? That is all official artwork from the animator.

And you surely can't mean this Holo, because in case you didn't know...she likes to get naked.


"He said that x character had a fanservice scene for x reason so let me show of y characters that he likes that also have fanservice scenes even though they don't fall under x reason."

Good argument m8.


Urusai, Jack~
This whole thing started off about why people like cartoons more than anime. He pointed out his disdain for loli fanservice when his avatar has the body of a 10 year old. It's just funny that we need consent and morales when fapping to pixels, that's all.
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I'm sorry but this confuses me. SOOOOO many people that I have met, have said that they hate anime. They say they don't see the point in it and think it's stupid. But then they love cartoons like fairy god parents. How the hell? Anime is pretty much cartoons but we better graphics! What do you guys think? If you understand why people say this, please explain it to me ;-;


There are certain differences... Many people don't like the art-style, others really hate the community. If the first anime you watched was really bad, it can influence an opinion of the industry. Then there's an element of unknown. And finally - preferences.

My friend hates anime, but likes DC Comics and their superheroes. I was really surprised when he knew about Saitama (One Punch Man), though he still won't watch it^^
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Anime ARE cartoons...Jesus just stop it...


You haven't figured out that we use "cartoons" to refer to western animation only?

You understand that "anime" is just the word Japanese people give to any and ALL animation, right?

Like....they'll make dubs of Disney cartoons and ALSO call it "anime"....right?

Ok...but fine, in the WEST, we call "anime" animations from Japan.

But that doesn't mean they are any different than cartoons.

So...for example, Avatar the last Airbender is a Western cartoon that has a very "anime" style artwork.

So, it's NOT anime because it's not from Japan....it's a cartoon....that looks EXACTLY like fucking anime.

ANIME ARE CARTOONS.

We're just playing semantics at this point.

Next you're going to tell me that Manga are not comics.
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It's SIMPLE math folks....

Anime = Animations from Japan.

Cartoon = Animated shows.

Do I really have to explain it any more than that?
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Bobby2Hands said:
l0li_m0e_ya0i said:


So it's okay to pander if it's slight yuri or furry, but not loli? Fan service is okay as long as it is the type you are okay with or the kind that makes sense to you? Fan service is fan service, whether it is explained by the "plot" or is there just to be there. And of course I know they are different types~ Tomoki even gives us the otomege loving fujoshi service after all.


No, I'm sorry fanservice is not just fanservice. Nudity with an actual narrative reason is not fanservice.

Fanservice = thrown in just to please the fans.


Well, just check out what these glorious fans made because of the "plot induced nudity"~





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l0li_m0e_ya0i said:
Bobby2Hands said:


No, I'm sorry fanservice is not just fanservice. Nudity with an actual narrative reason is not fanservice.

Fanservice = thrown in just to please the fans.


Well, just check out what these glorious fans made because of the "plot induced nudity"~







I already explained the reason why Holo appears nude at the start of Spice and Wolf.

Now can you explain the reason why the first shot of Shiro had to be a panty shot?
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