Nico- said: Don't let your dreams be memesTheBrainintheJar said: Same thing. The world isn't just. If you get into a relationship, it's not necessarily because you're a good person. If popularity among women dictated morality, Ian Watkins would be an angel. Then become a sex offender, existence is clearly all but suffering, so what exactly is holding you back? Be the sex offender you've always wanted to be You even get your own anime ost omg go for it \o/ |
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Nico- said: 9TheBrainintheJar said: Same thing. The world isn't just. If you get into a relationship, it's not necessarily because you're a good person. If popularity among women dictated morality, Ian Watkins would be an angel. Then become a sex offender, existence is clearly all but suffering, so what exactly is holding you back? Fallacies go both ways. The just world fallacy means that while the world isn't just, it also won't necessarily reward evil people. It's not a 'assholes get women' thing. Some people get sex. Others don't. Morality has little to do with it. |
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| I'm mixed on this... On one hand, I do see the attack on straight men, labeling them before they do/accept any action that warrants the title. Whether this is about sexual assault or something else entirely, I think we need to talk about these issues better than "All men are rapists" and "hire more men". I'm for equal opportunity and equal job selection based on skill. Having said that, men seem to take women speaking out about workplace discrimination, assault, etc way too personal. It shouldn't have to be said that every man doesn't assault women- that's a given. What men should be doing is listening and taking part in these discussion and taking a look at the evidence to show that these complaints aren't unfounded, and work towards a balanced society that could care less about what gender someone is on the job as long as they are qualified. Men should be aware of their words and behavior...instead of retreating, correct the behavior! I've seen and heard many guys say that they will just "not be around women" so that they can't be accused of assault. How does that help correcting the stereotype? lol |
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| I don't really understand what that is Is that another weird thing coming from the US ? |
| I would gladly continue it here but I'm just too lazy to type up all of my thoughts on it again. |
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| Why do they have to create a name just for that They are just people that refuse relationships in order to pursue their goals, as you said, it shouldn't have to deal with people genders, women can also have that behaviour it's still sad though, a true and healthy relationship shouldn't stop someone from reaching their goals |
| It is a homoerotic circle jerk created to compensate for the loss of sexual gradification. The echo chamber enables the creation progressivly more vindictive and negative behaviors. Let's see if this thread also gets deleted. |
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| Well I'd say it's nothing more or less than the effects of living in a behavior sink. Welcome to the Mouse Utopia Experiment, seems like we're living in it. |
| “Loddfafnir, listen to my counsel: You will fare well if you follow it, It will help you much if you heed it. If aware that another is wicked, say so: Make no truce or treaty with foes.” - Havamal 127 |
| Frank Sinatra/Evangelion references aside: It's just a "movement" that I can't take seriously. It just strikes me as "Oh poor me. I had a bad marriage. Let's all get together and complain about our ex wives" as if this social group needs empowerment though acknowledgement. Some women are evil. That's life. Life is filled with nasty people, and an aspect of life is navigating though that nastiness. But I'll still go as far to say that some of these MGTOW men deserved to be treated like shit if they were treating their wives and girlfriends like shit, since I'm sure that hypocrisy, denial and toxic masculinity are elements to their collective way of thinking to protect their fragile egos. So, call 'em cucks, call 'em incels, call 'em whatever. I don't really care. Though to those that really have problems connecting with women and just need a place of belonging, well... If you're having girl problems, I feel bad for you, son. I've got ninety-nine problems but a bitch ain't one. |
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| You aren't going to find any of the good stuff on the site named mgtow or youtube. It is all on bitchute. MRAs (mens rights activists)- Remind me of nazis. No, not actual nazis (you feminazis harpy waiting in the wings). They touch on how welfare is not actually a favor to anyone and makes groups weak and dependant, then go on to say, only white people should get welfare. Samething, women get more welfare than men, this is not fair. Men should get as much welfare as women, also hurr hurr men pay more taxes... lmao MGTOW (men going their own way)- fuck that shit, i'm out. PUA (pick up artists)- lets browse MGTOW theory/discussion for psychological tricks on how to bang the most women possible. |
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| Purple pill, Red pill, Black pill, Blue pill The fuck is this, a Mighty Morphin Power Rangers gathering? |
| MGTOW and Feminism are the 2 sides of the same coin as both contribute to the destruction of the traditional family and the atomization of society, as proposed by the communist dialectic. Both Feminism and MGTOW have reasonable arguments in their favor but these are highly corrupted because the cause of both is based on iniquity. So the first one demonizes men by associating masculinity with unjustified violence, while the second one demonizes women by associating femininity with demolishing hypergamy. |
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| I used to be entirely against the movement because I thought they were the same thing as incels (Real creeps that want to revoke women's human rights) But then thanks to some YouTubers I discovered the movement in its essence was about men who wish not to date women because of either trauma or being falsely accused. I now don't mind them and even follow an MGTOW YouTuber (Raging Golden Eagle) because I like his content. (He's pretty nice if you aren't bothered by some edgy humor :0 ) How I see it if an MGTOW is true to the movement and not an incel just leeching off of the movement he will just mind his own business and won't bother you if you don't bother them and I can respect that. |
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| Hm, odd principles. The world is perceived to turn it's back on you, you turn your back on the world almost. Or even some Jain-like principle at work..if odd meant to be interesting in this context.. |
| "In the end the World really doesn't need a Superman. Just a Brave one" |
| Seeing how one of the core ideas floating in that group is that women by nature are this: Aka as manipulative gold diggers who use men for their money. Now, not all MGTOW think this way, but a good loud portion does. Enough for a well-respected and influential member of their group to say this: "The first thing to remember is that a man that has taken a metaphorical red pill is a man that has learned the ugly truth about female nature. Women are made out to be harmless, beautiful creatures but the truth is many women today will rip out your heart and testicles through your wallet and move onto their next victim. And they have no guilt or remorse."-Sandman With said person getting mostly positive comments and with a really good like to dislike ratio(90% likes to 10% dislikes). Now despite saying something that clearly paints women as sociopaths, and constantly saying how women are this or that negative thing they would totally claim that they are "indifferent" and not sexist(The idea is all over this comment section, especially at her pinned comment). Because clearly when you're indifferent to someone you criticize them constantly and claim they're a sociopath by their very nature. I mean c'mon, your actions speak louder than your words and no one acts that way to someone they are indifferent to. This alone is bad enough, but with this mindset comes the thought that women know they are sociopaths thus are being manipulative and secretive about their nature(as said world view goes). Discourse stops right in its track as soon as that thought enters their mind. As now, they are under the belief that I don't disagree with them and that my projected reasons for anger come from fear of losing victims and men learning the "truth" about me. Why do those two mindsets come together? Well, simply put you can't be a manipulative gold digger without realizing you've been manipulating men to get you stuff and that you are only dating them for money. Claiming those things are an accident is like claiming you by accident made a shelf out of nowhere. It takes a conscious effort, you can't just do it automatically. |
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| For supposedly men "going their own way" they sure seem to spend a lot of time not going their own path and complaining about women and other weird MRA shit |
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| An ex/former co-worker tried to get me fired for "stalking" her as revenge for me breaking up with her. Dating for me is just not worth the risk to life/career or the financial burden. Also, anime girls have now set my standards too high to go for a 3D. |
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DiscoDespot said: What has this to do with dating? If the word of a man apparently carries enough risk to get one fired with no prove, any enemy one makes can attempt to get one fired by making up accusations of stalking.An ex/former co-worker tried to get me fired for "stalking" her as revenge for me breaking up with her. Dating for me is just not worth the risk to life/career or the financial burden. Also, anime girls have now set my standards too high to go for a 3D. If anything, one would assume that the accusation be more credible if there were no prior "dating". Selaphiel201 said: I too have noticed so — most of those communities seem to have very little in the way of advice on how to most effectively "go one's own way" and seems to mostly be a cesspool of bourgeois identity complaints.For supposedly men "going their own way" they sure seem to spend a lot of time not going their own path and complaining about women and other weird MRA shit |
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| I'm part of WGTOW. Moids are utter trash. |
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euphoria_fedoria said: Fucking moids and their moid things, amirite? I'm part of WGTOW. Moids are utter trash. |
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| I can understand where some of them come from, but I have always found hilarious how a lot of MGTOW's claim to "go their own way", but spend like hours everyday circlejerking about how much they hate women xd |
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| Whatever reasons started it, it's mostly a facade and a disguise for misogyny at this point. |
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| i honestly couldnt care less if men wanted to separate from women, but the sheer levels of misogyny and toxic masculinity in the mgtow movement greatly bothers me. they're literally just incels who have fucked. |
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| 'mgtow' or w.e it it's called seems kinda crazy but nowhere near feminism crazy. Men have gone to war, taken the most dangerous jobs and used themselves as guinea pigs so the woman didn't have to for ages. Also woman have been extremely maternal, selfless, amazing healers, homemakers and cooks to ensure extra care to properly cook food and make sure her children are taken care of as well as possible. These roles have been changed dramatically especially since the 1950's. Mainly... generational declines in testosterone levels have been observed. Baseline testosterone levels are formed from and because of frequent flow of endorphins (exercise), nutrient rich foods, proper sleep (especially at night), good mood, critical thinking & emotional flux (hunting, war, etc) and need for aggression and strength because of competition for females. Nowadays men get little to no exercise, foods have less nutrients due to non-regenerative farming and large scale agriculture stripping land of minerals & nutrients. Men not getting proper sleep or at the right time due to gaming and/or work stress. Moods are low from work related stresses and money stresses which have become the new standard competing for a mate, very little critical thinking due to men not having to hunt or worry about being a protector but instead stuck in a cubicle or working from home. Due to the above men are in a safezone cubicle, not working out, sleeping properly or eating properly as well as stressed so testosterone is low and thus being less aggressive and competitive over woman also being weaker and smaller than you should be creates natural decline in confidence and also less prone to aggression due to being in a physical and mental state of decline (protective mechanism) |
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| In America the drops in marriage rates have been linked to deepening socioeconomic divides; it’s just not as financially feasible as it used to be. For a long time, women didn’t really have the earning power to be picky, but now they do. And similarly, men are beginning to push away from socially constructed norms. This actually isn’t a bad thing, we could assume that there will be fewer shitty marriages, and subsequent divorces. |
DiscoDespot said: An ex/former co-worker tried to get me fired for "stalking" her as revenge for me breaking up with her. Dating for me is just not worth the risk to life/career or the financial burden. Also, anime girls have now set my standards too high to go for a 3D. as they say, don't shit where you eat |
| It's okay, there's plenty of opportunity to date/hookup with guys. I'm sure they are all doing fine. |
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| If MGTOW really wanted to stay away from women, perhaps they should spend less time obsessing over what women think of them and women in general... I have nothing against people who want to live in celibacy (it's hardly a new concept) or asexuals but I have hard time imagining that's what most people in MGTOW want. They frankly just sound butthurt. |
DaConduit said: DiscoDespot said: An ex/former co-worker tried to get me fired for "stalking" her as revenge for me breaking up with her. Dating for me is just not worth the risk to life/career or the financial burden. Also, anime girls have now set my standards too high to go for a 3D. as they say, don't shit where you eat Quite literally since I was working at McDonalds at the time, lol. But it was my first job and I'm happy I learned the lesson at my McJob rather further down the road in my career. |
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| It'd be great if I could simply exist and not want to seek out a relationship in peace without some ideologue wanting to cordon me off with them. So yeah, I'd be happy if they didn't exist just because I think that shit's annoying. I'm not a celibate in that sense, I just don't want to fuck anything right now or seek a committed relationship of any kind. But apparently that seems to be too much to ask for and merely talking about these kinds of constructs has had people come up to me and speaking to me like I'm MGTOW and telling me how they can be kind of sympathetic to that movement, despite the fact that I don't even fucking associate with them and have never even stated anything that alluded to as much in any conversation. And sometimes it feels like the current environment for gender discourse has devolved into something so black and white and team-based that people see this as a completely nuanced and fair assumption to make, and that makes me just want to jump off of a very tall building. From what I understand it's just a reactionary element to a lot of the bullshit that's going to inevitably stem from a movement that's entire continued existence rests on a slanted narrative, with said movement seeking to dominate so many areas of social construct discussion, ranging from genders to sex to morality to other groups. Intersectional feminism is a plague of locusts that tries to pose as something egalitarian but refuses to as much as identify themselves as being as such and sticks to their gender-role rooted name. Go figure. Watched a TED Talk where a feminist tried explaining why so many men want to kill themselves and then put that alongside a buzzfeed article that tries to villify men who don't want to get married as selfish and inconsiderate, and then there's my persistent fear of being labeled a nazi by these people if you don't buy into this sort of trite. The pressure of dealing with an entity that feels like it wants to make me out to be evil and hateful while lipservicing itself as something inclusive seeming to succeed and become so interwoven in the social fabric is an actual cause of depression for me, so I do kind of get it. I get the irritation. I just think that the whole thing is also a stupid way to respond and that the only way to really start discussing these issues properly is if we left behind these kinds of movements all together and tried forming something that actually felt capable of being inclusive beyond simply claiming to be. Ironically, the feeling of feeling so completely misunderstood but having this misunderstanding perpetuated and accepted in a way that pretty much negates and ignores any input coming from people like me and how much stuff like this can factor into it made me want to kill myself. I will one of these days, I've accepted that, but christ, don't accelerate it any more than need be. So, yeah, this stupid problem would very likely sort itself out if feminism becomes a movement that's more convincingly able to house the breadth of discussion rather than trying to house the breadth of discussion through a slanted and self-centered lens and only through said lens like it so often tends to do. I'm not at all convinced that it's capable of doing that in its current form, so social elements like MGTOW will persist in being that reactionary kind of stupid. They could probably start by ditching the fucking name if they want to dominate so many aspects of gender discourse. Being less creepy and right-think-y would also help a lot. Also, since I already got this yesterday, cutting out bullshit accusations of holding regressive views towards women and not wanting them to speak out because of feeling disgruntled with the current direction of that movement would also help out a lot. Y'know, the psychopathic labeling bullshit that doesn't just seem widely accepted in this movement, but outright enabled by it. But it's okay, because in spite of the extreme passivity and prevalence of this sort of toxicity is met with, it's a super individual oriented movement i sware. I only view MGTOW as a symptom to a horrid climate for discussing gender issues so it's kind of impossible for me to view it in absolute isolation, if you're wondering why this post traces back to the current feminist movement so much. Things like this don't operate in a vacuum, and at the very least I think the climate for discussing these things is exclusionary to the point that I can understand being fucking annoyed with it. |
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