Best Swordsman ever existed and why.

OneTrueBaita said:
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No, that&#039;s not how it works. As according to the Oxford English Dictionary, used widely in defining words in both normal and legal circumstances, a swordsman is &quot;a man who fights with a sword&quot;.<br />
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Oxford English dictionary. (2014) Vol. 2. 8th ed. Oxford: Oxford University Press.<br />
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CherryLover said:


Two can play the dictionary game, Baita.

As according to the Cambridge English Dictionary, used widely in defining words in both normal and legal circumstances, a swordsman is "a ​person ​skilled in ​fighting with a ​sword".

Cambridge English Dictionary. (2015) Cambridge University Press. Accessed: December 15, 2015

OneTrueBaita said:


Invalid submission. The Cambridge English Dictionary (4th ISBN 9781107619500) does not trump the Oxford English Dictionary (9th ISBN 0-19-479900-X).

CherryLover said:


Invalid as well. No source for claim. The CED's usage is far more than that of Oxford's as according to a school survey. No source either, but since you aren't listing your sources, my argument is just as valid.

OneTrueBaita said:


Au contraire.

The Oxford English Dictionary is the authoritative historical dictionary of English, published in 1948 by Humphrey S. Milford.

Reference:

History of the OED (2015). [Online] OED. Available from: http://public.oed.com/history-of-the-oed/ [Accessed December 15, 2015].

With a history spanning over 60 years, this is the dictionary that should be use when clarifying the definitive definitions of a word or phrase.

CherryLover said:


Don't you try that. History has nothing to do with accuracy.

The Cambridge University Press has been publishing dictionaries for learners of English since 1995, and are informed by the Cambridge English Corpus, billions of words of real English, and the Cambridge Learner Corpus, a unique collection of exam scripts written by students taking Cambridge ESOL exams all over the world.

About Cambridge Dictionaries Online (2015). [Online] Camberidge Dictionaries Online. Available from: http://dictionary.cambridge.org/about.html [Accessed December 15, 2015].

OneTrueBaita said:


It has everything to do with it, and has nothing to do with examinations such as the ESOL. That would be claiming that examinations validate dictionaries when the other way round is what usually occurs.

In reply to your claim that the Cambridge Dictionary has "billions of words", such a feat is easily attained by the OED, which renders your argument invalid.

CherryLover said:


Wrong, the ESOL exams have everything to do with it. The Common European Framework of Reference for Languages (CEFR) is an international standard for describing language ability. It is used around the world to describe learners’ language skills. The CEFR has six levels – from A1 for the most basic beginner to C2 for the very highest level of ability.

The Cambridge examinations cater to every level, including the C2, which shows how trusted it is for high-tier examinations. The OED, however, does not boast such feats.

OneTrueBaita said:


Please do your research before stating a fact. The OED is the go-to dictionary for exams all over the world. Internationally recognised English proficiency exams such as TOEFL and IELTS use it as the source of empirical definitions for words they use in their respective examinations.

In addition, the A-levels have had a history of featuring OED-based questions. The AQA examination paper for A level English Language in January 2004 contained a question based on OED entries. Students were asked to comment on the entries giraffe and hippopotamus as part of a section of the course entitled ‘Language Change’.

CherryLover said:


Using the example of TOEFL and IELTS is invalid, because their status as english proficiency exams are lower than that of the CEFR. Their questions are also generally easier.

OneTrueBaita said:


Incorrect. The CEFR is actually made of different tiers of examinations. If one can compare the A1 CEFR to IELTS, it is obvious that the IELTS trumps it in difficulty.

CherryLover said:


You're deflecting, Baita. The C2 questions' difficulty is far above that of the IELTS. There is no need to compare or to reference because they are that different. One is for competent, native speakers. The other is an internationally recognised examination to test basic proficiency.

laidellent said:
Cherry,aren't you realizing you are taking part in derailing the thread?

CherryLover said:


I'm sorry, I'll stop now. That troll Baita led me on such a wild chase that I didn't even feel as if I was derailing.

laidellent said:
Cherry,aren't you realizing you are taking part in derailing the thread?

laidellent said:
Sometimes some people love to pick on individuals just for the sake of circlejerking in their own club.

OT:Himura from Ruroini Kenshin

Gensan said:
Oh, we listing demon too? then i'll go with this
Devil May Cry Dante.

GaryL said:


His master is better

hoopla123 said:
If we are listing demons, Sesshomaru with Bakusaiga smashes everyone.

Weather said:
An interesting thing came in ZUN's lastest side story on the newest Music CD.

Yojana measure has been canonically confirmed to exist in the Touhouverse:

"　「由旬って長さの単位？」
　「そう、古代インドの長さの単位で１由旬はおよそ７キロ。
　　つまり、４万由旬はおよそ２８万キロくらいね。
　　地球の直径が１万２千キロちょっとだから、地球も通り過ぎちゃうわ」
"And 'yojana' is a measure of distance?"
"Yes, it's a unit of length from ancient India - one yojana is about seven kilometers, so forty thousand yojana would be about two hundred eighty thousand kilometers. The diameter of the earth is just a little over twelve thousand kilometers, so the distance goes through the earth."

Applying this to Youmu's Hell Realm Sword "200 Yojana in 1 Slash"

The used number is 7 kilometers per Yojana so...

200 Yojanas x 7km= 1400km

Using this http://www.convert-me.com/en/convert/speed

Using a timeframe of one Second...

1400 km/s= Mach 4,118

Using half a Second....

2800 km/s= Mach 8,235

Using a quarter of a second...

5600 km/s= Mach 16,470

Ignoring the retardness of using a 1 second (because a sword's slash of one second is idiotic)
An average sword's slash should have a shorter timeframe than these but you get the point.

Youmu is comfortably in the Sub-relativistic range.

AzureDaora said:
Youmu Konpaku smashes u

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hoopla123 said:


Sesshomaru spams energy waves from his sword that can cut through a 1000 demons in one wave.

Bakusaiga is also one shot one kill with anti regen capabilities and destroys anything that is connected to the sword wound.

If he also uses and spams Mediou Zangetsuha, she would literally be sucked into hell.

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OneTrueBaita said:


Butbutbut are we including demons in the term "swordsman"...?

hoopla123 said:


People were posting a bunch of half/full demons here so I thought I'd do it too.

hoopla123 said:


Sesshomaru spams energy waves from his sword that can cut through a 1000 demons in one wave.

Bakusaiga is also one shot one kill with anti regen capabilities and destroys anything that is connected to the sword wound.

If he also uses and spams Mediou Zangetsuha, she would literally be sucked into hell.

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robis798 said:
...Saber?

laidellent said:


Personal bias :0

But yeah Hiko had mastered Hiten Mitsurugi Ryū perfectly IIRC.

_Peksi said:
Well if non-humans are allowed then

Masaki Tenchi/Kami Tenchi
He uses a sword
He's the all-powerful god of his verse
So that basically means he's omnipotent/scient/present
So he knows all sword techniques that existed, exist and will exist in the multiverse

Baitdragon16 said:

Which of the Tenchi series is that in ?Haven't seen it in Ryo-Ohki or Tenchi Muyo !

_Peksi said:

It's in Ryo-Ohki actually. The thing that stops Counter-Actor is Kami Tenchi, the true god that the Choushin wanted to find.
Kami Tenchi is essentially what Masaki will eventually become.

Baitdragon16 said:

Oh ,but did they explain all that ?
Hmm I guess I just didn't notice .Gonna watch the last few eps again .

19990930 said:
Kirito, he is basically a god. He was killed, then came back from death from sheer will power. No one can defeat someone like him. Plus SAO was really well written so you can get a feel for his sword style and how powerful it is.