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um i wanna know why shaltear was like that in the first place?
are those traveler that strong to process world level item?
and if shaltear was so strong why cant she kill them all before they made her paralize.. i guess?
I gave some answers about that in the previous ep thread but basically it was due to Shalltear's own carelessness. The Man who she knocked over was estimated to be around Narberals level so yes pretty strong. But it was still the item that was unexpected for her.
As for their ecounter, that was shown in the anime too when Shalltear was looking for that escaped ranger and suddenly her familiar died.
"It looked like a one-piece dress for women with a deep slit down the side and a round collar.
The color was a silvery white, with the image of a five-clawed dragon soaring to the skies stitched in gold thread.
In Ainz’s world, it was something called a Cheongsam.
However, the face of the woman in the dress was wrinkled with age. Her exposed legs reminded one of burdocks or dried potatoes. The clothes did not fit with her appearance. It was to the point that one would want to narrow their eyes; to the point that Shalltear looked away.
But that was to be the last small feeling of incongruity.
Everything could have been changed by the smallest of whims.
If Ainz hadn’t captured Nigan, if Ainz hadn’t countered the Slane Theocracy’s information magic so strongly, if the theocracy hadn’t made the mistake of believing ‘the Dragon King of Calamity has resurrected’, if Shalltear hadn’t been distracted— everything would have changed. However, the fact that so many ifs coincided, in other words, meant that it was inevitable.
The name of the dress was ‘Bewitching Calamity, Kei Seke Koku’.
An item left behind by the God who saved mankind, the subject of their worship. It held a power that even Shalltear did not possess.
—shudder
Even as the highest level Floor Guardian of the Great Underground Tomb of Nazarick, Shalltear’s body trembled. It was a warning, almost like a sixth sense.
With her instincts setting off alarm bells, Shalltear moved her eyes and fixed it on the old woman.
This was a human whom she had to kill, no matter what.
Hit with this realization, Shalltear began to move towards her. The man with the spear blocked her way.
“Move!”
Shalltear smacked him in earnest. A normal human’s weak body would have been torn to pieces, but the man was simply blown away and did not die. Not only that, he still retained his fighting spirit.
Shalltear concentrated on the old woman as the focal point and cast her spell.
“「Mass Hold Species」!”
A number of them had their movements constricted. The reason Shalltear tied them down was because she deemed them to be more than enough to make up for her previous failure.
As the thought passed through her mind, Shalltear’s heart became overlapped in white.
The feeling of a portion of her mind falling away. She didn’t know what it was. And when the truth of what was happening dawned on her, an enormous shock passed through her and even the undead Shalltear trembled in fear.
Mind control.
She, an undead with absolute immunity to mind control effects, was having her mind dominated. Shalltear furiously filled her heart, now almost dyed in white, with hatred. As her head swarmed with the countless thoughts of the worst case scenario—
“KUUAAAAAAHHH!!”
—she screamed and resisted, blood pouring down her eyes. This mind control that was trying to dirty her, the Floor Guardian of the Great Underground Tomb of Nazarick, she resisted.
But as if ignoring Shalltear’s desperate struggle, her consciousness continued to be dyed white. She did not even have the luxury of using her teleportation magic. Losing her focus for even an instant would immediately render her completely under the spell’s effect.
Shalltear used her class skill and created a ‘Purifying Javelin’.
A huge javelin imbued with divine energy was still capable of dealing significant damage even if the user had an evil alignment. More importantly, throwing it while using additional MP gave it the effect of never missing its mark.
Shalltear, while resisting with all the strength in her body, glared at the old woman who had cast the spell that was dirtying her.
Her eyes did not even reflect the huge, mirror-like shield of the man blocking her path as a threat.
Then— she threw.
The javelin flew from her hand like it had a will of its own.
It was an attack strengthened by every skill that she could scrounge up from her fading consciousness.
Its aim true, the attack that looked like a flash of light penetrated the man blocking its way along with his shield and struck the old woman.
The two humans throwing up blood, the commotion in the group; this was the last vision of the world that Shalltear saw."
thank you
more question
so is naberal level the strongest level a human can get?
what is ains level? and is there anyone stronger or equal to ains?
I hope they put all the effort in the fight.
Pandora's Actor saved the episode thanks to his voice actor.
I was expecting they removed Nigredo scene since it was long, but... they removed 90% of the chapter </3
No shizu </3 From what they animated, she wouldn't have even needed to say a word (if she were there).
Pandora's Actor show up and make Momonga go red lol.
Momonga is mad and real piss...world class item damn.
I wonder, did Shalltear manage to kill that old lady that use the world class item on her? Hope she does so that other member of Nazarick don't get control as well.
Off to the battle Momonga go and RIP Shalltear T_T
Another rushed episode. I guess the fight will be rushed too and we will have an anime original end. I was really looking forward to seeing Albedo's older sister.
-Dizzy- said: Another rushed episode. I guess the fight will be rushed too and we will have an anime original end. I was really looking forward to seeing Albedo's older sister.
Nah probably two episode long fight with switching back to Nazarick at times
Darklight0303 said: Nah probably two episode long fight with switching back to Nazarick at times
I know but I'm not expecting much. I wouldn't be surprised if they butcher the fight as well. I can only hope that they at least adapt the fight properly.
Vastman said: I don't understand because Momonga/Ainz must kill Shalltear, can anyone explain me?
He can't save her?
Ainz can't free her from the mind control status since it was due to a World Class Item. So it's absolute. He we'll have to kill her to recover her.
It's pretty much explained in the anime adaptation, so...
Vastman said: I don't understand because Momonga/Ainz must kill Shalltear, can anyone explain me?
He can't save her?
Ainz can't free her from the mind control status since it was due to a World Class Item. So it's absolute. He we'll have to kill her to recover her.
It's pretty much explained in the anime adaptation, so...
Can't he ressurect her tho? After he killed her obviously
Because he said there is a way to save Shalltear.. i don't think he actually meant by perma killing her
Overall enjoyable Episode, but have to say since Episode 9 it's not as good as it was actually
I am no LN reader so i can't really complain about the story rushing, but it kind of feels this way tho
Well hopefully the final Episodes will compensate and show some good fights
Vastman said: I don't understand because Momonga/Ainz must kill Shalltear, can anyone explain me?
He can't save her?
Thanks!
What part of he can't break the mind control of a world level item didn't you get?
Nezperdian said:
Vastman said: I don't understand because Momonga/Ainz must kill Shalltear, can anyone explain me?
He can't save her?
Ainz can't free her from the mind control status since it was due to a World Class Item. So it's absolute. He we'll have to kill her to recover her.
It's pretty much explained in the anime adaptation, so...
Vastman said: I don't understand because Momonga/Ainz must kill Shalltear, can anyone explain me?
He can't save her?
Ainz can't free her from the mind control status since it was due to a World Class Item. So it's absolute. He we'll have to kill her to recover her.
It's pretty much explained in the anime adaptation, so...
Can't he ressurect her tho? After he killed her obviously
Because he said there is a way to save Shalltear.. i don't think he actually meant by perma killing her
Overall enjoyable Episode, but have to say since Episode 9 it's not as good as it was actually
I am no LN reader so i can't really complain about the story rushing, but it kind of feels this way tho
Well hopefully the final Episodes will compensate and show some good fights
The answer for your question it's a spoiler, so feel free to read it:
As someone who doesn't read the LNs (yet), I found the episode to be enjoyable. Pandora's Actor was amazing, I missed seeing Ainz act as his human self.
Algunosbata said: As someone who doesn't read the LNs (yet), I found the episode to be enjoyable. Pandora's Actor was amazing, I missed seeing Ainz act as his human self.
You were cheated out of a systematic slaughter of the adventurers who accompanied Ainz as well as seeing one of Albedo's sisters
I wasn't expecting fight scenes to be cut after wasting so much time telling a story on a such slow pace.
13 eps seems enough to animate 3 Vols, but it seems they are going to try to get to some chapters of Vol 4 in the last ep. I don't like to think that will happen but...
All this whining by light novel readers is getting bothersome, this episode was fine, they can't put every single scene from the light novel to make it a cut/paste adaption unless they make this 24+ episodes or really rush scenes to a mere "you blink you miss it" deal. By the look of it they are not expecting to make a second season (which is fine, I hate when they rise our expectations only to leave us hanging), but if sales are good they can introduce new characters later on.
Even if Albedo is evil, I am really moved by her devotion to Ainz, I could tell by her expression that she was jealous of Pandora's actor because he is a creation of her beloved Ainz, they have a bond she can never have.
I wonder how much budget will the fight with Shaltear will consume, if the budget has been frugal so far it is easier for a second season to get green lit.
Lyrisia said: Well don't understand why they would rush it like that... Wanted to see them massacring the other adventurers' team too...
Anyway Pandora's actor is just too great xD Poor guy looked down by the others ^^"
They probably want to get as much time as possible into the big fight.
And yeah, Pandora's Actor is pretty awesome. ^^
I can't help but smile at how well he got animated and voiced, well, at least he's great in my opinion, he kinda fit the image I had of him in my mind. ^^
Mormegil said: Why did Ainz kill that one adventurer dude?
Because he was stubborn and got in Ainz way but as you can see Ainz warned him twice and he just decided to ignore it leading him to his death by a stupid mistake.
I've just noticed after re-watching it, Pandora Actor have the same voice actor of Gourmet and Kida.
A pretty slow episode, building up for the final fight.
As soon as I heard that over-the-top, eccentric voice of Pandora's Actor, I knew that was Mamoru Miyano. He should voice every goofy, hyperactive, flamboyant character in every anime for the rest of his career because he does it so well lol. Best part of the episode, but we probably won't see him again.
barmar said:
Warbandit18 said: Actually curious why they didnt adopt shizu in the treasure room scene cause there was a meaning why only she and yuri could come with ainz...
Because moar budget.
But you know the funny thing is- how did they even find Shalltear without Nigredo?
Even without showing her they could've at least added a line like"Thanks to Nigredo we found out her location" or something similar.
I'm not even reading the LN but that really stood out to me. One second, Momonga and Albedo are walking then boom, very next scene, they're in front of Shalltear. It sucks that Madhouse is rushing this ending, but that is pretty much all the evidence I need to assume they most likely aren't doing a second season,d espite how much the LN sales have increased.
People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime.
Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait.
MAL is literally just anime Twitter as its own website lol.
Wait they said Shalltear was extremely powerful and a difficult matchup for Ains. I thought the supreme beings* were unmatched and isn't Albedo the leader of the guardians? How can she be weaker than Shalltear.
DRossweisse said: Wait they said Shalltear was extremely powerful and a difficult matchup for Ains. I thought the supreme beings* were unmatched and isn't Albedo the leader of the guardians? How can she be weaker than Shalltear.
The anime didn't really went over it. The supreme beings are ofcourse all lvl 100 (max level).
The NPCs are basically like scripted player characters so they're strength only differs due to level, equipment, classbuild/spec and skill.
The floor guardians are all lvl 100 and have relativly high gear. Skill isn't a factor since they don't have any experience. The biggest difference is therefore the class build.
It is mentioned that Albedo has the highest defensive capabilities; she is basically a tank.
Shalltear has the perfect duelling/anti-caster spec with life steal and shit. So she is unrivaled when it comes to 1v1.
Speaking about who is the strongest/weakest is a bit misleading since they're all equally strong. Each of them is designed for certain tasks at which they excell.
Two more episodes. Im not really sure if Ains will really kill Shalltear. Shalltear is like one of the major character in the series. Well Im sure Albedo will be happy as fvck to see Shalltear dead.
"I have been wielding a blade since before your were swimming around your father's scrotum." - Kurou
DRossweisse said: Wait they said Shalltear was extremely powerful and a difficult matchup for Ains. I thought the supreme beings* were unmatched and isn't Albedo the leader of the guardians? How can she be weaker than Shalltear.
total stat wise, Albedo is 42 point lower than Shalltear.
Shalltear is an Undead Vampire Holy Magic Caster Valkyrie which mean she can leech life, she can cast both unholy and holy magic and she doesn't have any magical weakness.
Albedo have higher defence but that is it. Shalltear will out last her in a straight up 1vs1 because of lifesteal.
i think a lot of people missed something. i do believe this is the first time Momonga flat out killed someone that he did not have to kill. ( the adventure)
you might think that's a small thing but remember that he has not killed anyone that was not threatening the peace up till now.
jaxjaxk said: i think a lot of people missed something. i do believe this is the first time Momonga flat out killed someone that he did not have to kill. ( the adventure)
you might think that's a small thing but remember that he has not killed anyone that was not threatening the peace up till now.