Why Most Old School Anime is way better than Seasonal Modern Anime?

EverydayIfight said:

I wasn't going to reply but. Did you use that meme so much that you believe KnB is supernatural? It's not. Factually not, so stop with that nonsense. And I couldn't care less if you think there was tension or not since that's just your opinion (for example Aomine vs Kagami zone is more intense and has more tension than the entirety of Slam Dunk) KnB is actually smarter than Slam Dunk for me but w/e, no point in arguing that with your tunnel vision.

KnB is unrealistic but it doesn't reach the super power level. Everything in it is just exaggerations, not impossibilities. 3 points from across the court exist, they are just improbable. Akashi's emperor eye is an exaggeration of him being perceptive. Ankle breakers is a legit thing in NBA just search youtube. Kise copy nonsense is just exaggerated but not impossible. Aomine is an exaggerated form of free style basketball usually found in street basketball. The zone is legit term, not only in Basket ball but in sports in general, it's just exaggerated here as it's more of a mode that can be turn on and off than a natural thing, etc.

What the author did was much like other Jump authors is include battle like elements on a sports setting. The same thing happens with Shoukegi no Souma and many other shows where the premsie is not supernatural but it''s so unrealistic.

So no, comparing it to Slam Dunk is a valid comparison. The fundamental difference between the two is that Slam Dunk took a realistic approach and is a genuine sports manga, while KnB took an unrealistic approach. I always facepalm when people criticize KnB and pretend it wasn't unrealistic on purpose. People are so close minded and gullible that they put inherent values to certain elements, ignoring the context but I digress.

And I couldn't care less if you think there was tension or not since that's just your opinion (for example Aomine vs Kagami zone is more intense and has more tension than the entirety of Slam Dunk)

jal90 said:
Okay. One of them is from Gundam 00 and the lyrics talk about fighting and hope for the future. Another one is from Kuroko no Basket and the lyrics talk about moving forward and improving, which seems fitting for a sports anime, and they even mention the basketball game.

I don't get the point. At all.

jal90 said:
Okay. One of them is from Gundam 00 and the lyrics talk about fighting and hope for the future. Another one is from Kuroko no Basket and the lyrics talk about moving forward and improving, which seems fitting for a sports anime, and they even mention the basketball game.

I don't get the point. At all.

FGAU1912 said:


are you saying they have more lyical context than the three older ones do

jal90 said:

They certainly do have lyrical context because they fit what seem to be the themes of these anime. If you are asking for a word by word synopsis then sure, they have gone worse at that. Except the lyrics for Macross: Do you remember love?, for instance are just as non-specific as the modern examples I quoted.

I won't even go into asking why the hell making a direct reference to the show makes the lyrics better when setting a general theme or mood works just as well.

jal90 said:

They certainly do have lyrical context because they fit what seem to be the themes of these anime. If you are asking for a word by word synopsis then sure, they have gone worse at that. Except the lyrics for Macross: Do you remember love?, for instance are just as non-specific as the modern examples I quoted.

I won't even go into asking why the hell making a direct reference to the show makes the lyrics better when setting a general theme or mood works just as well.

Antilope said:

Antilope said:
I'd say it creates a closer connection between the song and the show. Whether you care about that or not is a different story though.

FGAU1912 said:


are you saying they have more lyical context than the three older ones do and

one osmg like this of moden time that does link well ot ts anime is this perfecly like the olddays

jal90 said:

@Antilope yeah, I guess he means that... but then the only thing lyrics must do to be good is yelling the title of the show? Okay...

jal90 said:

Sure, it is forced to do so because it limits the context of the song. A song that mentions Mazinger Z explicitly can only be about Mazinger Z. But still and as said, I don't see the advantage, not to mention that yelling the title of the show alone doesn't guarantee referencing and tackling the content of the show well or even in a unique and recognizable manner.

I guess it's a matter of opinion after all.

Klad said:
What meme are you talking about, cause I'm not getting you at all.

that entire paragraph you wrote about the exaggerations, you further proved my point. I guess it's really foolish to compare a normal series which is about basketball, to another series who takes the "exaggerations in basketball" in an extreme way.

Alright, this is just one of your opinions too.

EverydayIfight said:
Hopeless.

Kruszer said:
As someone who watched a lot of both, I disagree with the assertion that old is better.

Ugoki said:


Kek. You haven't even watched the cream of the crop of old anime.

ForgottenXthe3rd said:
I don't get why so many people hate moe so much, the cuteness is really quite pleasing to the eyes compared to a lot of other styles I've seen. To me a lot of the older series look unrefined, unpolished, and rough around the edges (and not in a good way). Of course, ultimately this boils down to each individual's opinion, why so many people try to force their views onto others I don't get, but frankly it needs to end, you pretty much are all acting like a bunch of idiotic A-holes trying to force others to see things your way.

FGAU1912 said:


moe chacters are not realistic on personality

ForgottenXthe3rd said:



Personality?! PERSONALITY?!! oh man you sure don't know anything do you?

FGAU1912 said:


compare maison to nay modern romance manga kyokyo is some id legit like some one like irl caring and dutifully i good realistic personnnlyt

compare her to any yandare in moden romance tales yandare rae whooly unreal

mayukachan said:

maison ikkoku's main female isn't realistic though..........................

mayukachan said:

maison ikkoku's main female isn't realistic though..........................

FGAU1912 said:


she is you know yamato nedeshiko is what most Japanese men what no lie of they had choice more than a few existed irl then you would see im right

heace why the women national soccer team s nicknamed the yamato Nedeshikos also


is common word ouside of anime sho women liek are real peronalty wise

i have never in in my over 30 yeras of life

a true iRL Tsundare wither tpye one or type two and/or and reallfe Kuu or yan

and amd no would ever opnely call them seve that

IntroverTurtle said:
You've only watched 50 anime, I doubt you've watched much of the cream of the crop from new or old anime.

ForgottenXthe3rd said:
I don't get why so many people hate moe so much, the cuteness is really quite pleasing to the eyes compared to a lot of other styles I've seen. To me a lot of the older series look unrefined, unpolished, and rough around the edges (and not in a good way). Of course, ultimately this boils down to each individual's opinion, why so many people try to force their views onto others I don't get, but frankly it needs to end, you pretty much are all acting like a bunch of idiotic A-holes trying to force others to see things your way.

Ugoki said:


I mostly watch the good ones, unlike idiots who will watch everything that airs every season just because.

Ugoki said:


I mostly watch the good ones, unlike idiots who will watch everything that airs every season just because.

Kagami_Hiiragi said:


> laughs at somebody for not watching the cream of the crop of old anime.
> has seen almost nothing.
> calls folks idiots for watching a lot of airing anime.

You heard it here folks. We're idiots for watching a lot of new anime!

No way its because we enjoy the medium, lol.

Some members here say the most silly things.

Ugoki said:


I mostly watch the good ones, unlike idiots who will watch everything that airs every season just because.



No wonder you like NGNL that much.

ForgottenXthe3rd said:

That supposed to be an insult? Cause NGNL was easily the best of its season and better than most other series that aired before and after it.

FGAU1912 said:



. hack is still better

ForgottenXthe3rd said:

Personally i'd have to disagree, not to mention i dislike it when people compare NGNL to those standard game based ones.... too many people compare things to .hack and SAO.....those are in the past, leave them there.

Ugoki said:


Unlike your ordinary anime fans, I view anime merely as just another entertainment medium and I have no obligation to "enjoy it" just because it's anime.

Rather than watching shitty anime, I could be reading books instead.

FGAU1912 said:



i talk as a franchise to but sign ois brong as sin but i founf sao to badlly witten in anime from to be good

ForgottenXthe3rd said:

That supposed to be an insult? Cause NGNL was easily the best of its season and better than most other series that aired before and after it.

FGAU1912 said:


she is you know yamato nedeshiko is what most Japanese men what no lie of they had choice more than a few existed irl then you would see im right

heace why the women national soccer team s nicknamed the yamato Nedeshikos also


is common word ouside of anime sho women liek are real peronalty wise

i have never in in my over 30 yeras of life

a true iRL Tsundare wither tpye one or type two and/or and reallfe Kuu or yan

and amd no would ever opnely call them seve that

mayukachan said:

being the ideal japanese housewife doesn't make one more "realistic"

NicoZeta said:
-Beautiful 2D Mecha animation

Kruzy said:


Sounds like somebody didn't watch Ping Pong, Silver Spoon, Monogatari SS and Shirobako.

ForgottenXthe3rd said:

1. i dont watch sports base anime, dont like the genre
2. not my style
3. Seen most of that one, still like NGNL better
4. meh
also, i did say "most" not all

Kruzy said:


Well "most" airing shows are pretty shit especially the ones in the past 4 seasons so that's not really saying much about NGNL and you still said that the show was "easily" the best of its season even though we had Ping Pong, Sidonia, Stardust Crusaders, Haikyuu and WIXOSS.

ForgottenXthe3rd said:

for one thing, there are a number of shows i dont watch due to time restrictions, and another, there are some genres i can't stand so i try to avoid those genres unless there's something that catches my attention. and there have been some pretty good shows this past year, quite a few good ones this season in particular.