Rokka: Braves of the Six Flowers (light novel)
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RoyaiChaos said: Zapredon said: What seriously? So we have to wait until final episode to know who are the fake? We have to wait for the sequel to see them fight the demon? Is this even going to help the bluray/dvd selling well in Japan? If it doesn't sell well the it's really the animation team fault. Or is the anime getting close to the LN or what? I agree, all mystery novels/ movies should reveal the murderer whiten the first chapter. Then we can see the detectives hang out at the beach cause that's the main point of a mystery novel right? If you're not into mystery and was looking for an adventure type anime, I would recommend you watch something else. Although starting from the 2nd volume (so 2nd season if there is one), the novel transitions from mystery being the focus with adventure as a side to a focus on adventure with a hint of mystery. You are telling me Rokka is a mystery despite the beating the demon setting? Is this show more of adventure or mystery? |
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
Zapredon said: 1st volume is around 70% mystery and 30% adventure(what you had considered action/fighting). 2nd volume is like 60% mystery and 40% action. As it advances, the volumes become more balanced which is pretty awesome but that's because the previous volumes set up most of the necessary elements for it to take a smoother pace IMO.RoyaiChaos said: I agree, all mystery novels/ movies should reveal the murderer whiten the first chapter. Then we can see the detectives hang out at the beach cause that's the main point of a mystery novel right? If you're not into mystery and was looking for an adventure type anime, I would recommend you watch something else. Although starting from the 2nd volume (so 2nd season if there is one), the novel transitions from mystery being the focus with adventure as a side to a focus on adventure with a hint of mystery. You are telling me Rokka is a mystery despite the beating the demon setting? Is this show more of adventure or mystery? |
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ValhasDrew said: Zapredon said: 1st volume is around 70% mystery and 30% adventure(what you had considered action/fighting). 2nd volume is like 60% mystery and 40% action. As it advances, the volumes become more balanced which is pretty awesome but that's because the previous volumes set up most of the necessary elements for it to take a smoother pace IMO.You are telling me Rokka is a mystery despite the beating the demon setting? Is this show more of adventure or mystery? Wait, so the entire 12 episodes is going to be base on 1 volume only? Is this common among LN adaption? |
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
Comander-07 said: Im pretty sure Nashetanya is fake. Considering her beeing weak and not suited for fighting the demon god at all. She even admits that she would have lost in the last tournament to one of the guys adlet was mocking. (And IF she would be any kind of strong > the guy would be really strong > the guy could handle adlet easy, even with his tricks, he had to fight the saint of blades. If he would be stupid, he wouldnt have "won". Either I'm forgetting a scene, or this makes no sense, I don't remember her saying she'd lose to anyone but Goldof and Adlet never mocked him or defeated him, he only mocked and defeated those two guys in the first episode or so, and she supposedly owned the leftover guy who faced her after Adlet injured the old man enough he couldn't fight the younger dude in their rematch-and I don't remember her saying she'd lose to the old man either-. |
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Zapredon said: It isn't common but it is for the best, unless you enjoyed the rushed episodes with the plot of Danmachi,else you probably are better watching this slow paced season. If you rush the plot, trust me that it will do no good.ValhasDrew said: 1st volume is around 70% mystery and 30% adventure(what you had considered action/fighting). 2nd volume is like 60% mystery and 40% action. As it advances, the volumes become more balanced which is pretty awesome but that's because the previous volumes set up most of the necessary elements for it to take a smoother pace IMO. Wait, so the entire 12 episodes is going to be base on 1 volume only? Is this common among LN adaption? Last episode will consist of revealing who's the 7th brave, their(instead of using a gender for the 7th brave, using a plural instead) intention and their fight with the other genuine Rokka no Yuusha in the edge of survival. The fight is pretty awesome but I prefer the fights before this one since they show the potential of all the current Braves(not excluding the seventh brave). |
Tylaen said: "Adventure" Is a very broad term and several of the meaning's fall under what Is currently unfolding In Rokka no Yuusha. Bad storytelling does not entail restraining yourself to the readers expectation. The author MAKES the expectations. The opening episodes posed the problem that the demon lord needs to be defeated, we never get resolution. For resolution to that you need to buy the LN. The opening episodes should have posed the problem the heroes need to get out of the barrier as that is going to be the resolution we get at the end of the show. This is writing a damn story 101. You could also call it bait and switch to sell the LN which is marketing 101. Tylaen said: Again, adventure. Broad term. What are you getting at here? It's not a cookie cutter murder mystery where we flash forward and back again at a constant rate, neither Is it the only way to setup a mystery show. It might be the one you prefer, unfortunately that does not make this show worse. It does make the show worse. If the pacing didn't suck and if the story wasn't told improperly this wouldn't be rated in the 1000s and falling. Framing this as an adventure to kill the demon lord and bait and switching it to a locked room mystery show has lost the interest of a lot of people and pretty much killed any chance of this getting another season even if they wanted to do one. |
GSupernova said: Zefyris said: Trailing in a forest with that fog that disturb the senses so much that even though you think you're running into the same direction you end up running all around before getting back where you started? (look at the red tape thing in the beginning of episod 4, that's not just running in circle there, he was running in every direction whil intending to run straight) ? Running toward the temple is one thing, but running away from the temple is completely different~ Also, Adlet is far more an expert as tracking down in a forest than Hans is, as shown in episode 3. I think he knows how to avoid leaving too much marks, the fog and the sheer speed in ran out does the rest. Based on your response, it must really be a plothole. I don't care how much fog there is or how good Adlet is at ranging, he was fleeing with a woman over his shoulder and a knife in his back. He left no blood trail that they could follow, and the show didn't explain how. Tracking a blood trail is not exactly difficult, especially when he's only got a minute's head start(and wouldn't be affected by the fog, for the same reason you explained with the string). Yes, it's a plot hole. He was slowed down, they showed he was. Basically everything gets handwaved away by his caltrops. Although they would be easy to simply move through we're supposed to believe they cost them so much time they couldn't catch him. Whatever, it's not even in the top 100 list of things this or many of these kid-oriented anime expect you to suspend your disbelief for. As for a blood trail, they're not a real thing. If he's losing so much blood he'd leave a substantial trail he'd be dead from the wound anyway. |
Sokah said: Tylaen said: "Adventure" Is a very broad term and several of the meaning's fall under what Is currently unfolding In Rokka no Yuusha. Bad storytelling does not entail restraining yourself to the readers expectation. The author MAKES the expectations. The opening episodes posed the problem that the demon lord needs to be defeated, we never get resolution. For resolution to that you need to buy the LN. The opening episodes should have posed the problem the heroes need to get out of the barrier as that is going to be the resolution we get at the end of the show. This is writing a damn story 101. You could also call it bait and switch to sell the LN which is marketing 101. Tylaen said: Again, adventure. Broad term. What are you getting at here? It's not a cookie cutter murder mystery where we flash forward and back again at a constant rate, neither Is it the only way to setup a mystery show. It might be the one you prefer, unfortunately that does not make this show worse. It does make the show worse. If the pacing didn't suck and if the story wasn't told improperly this wouldn't be rated in the 1000s and falling. Framing this as an adventure to kill the demon lord and bait and switching it to a locked room mystery show has lost the interest of a lot of people and pretty much killed any chance of this getting another season even if they wanted to do one. Sinopsis: When the Majin awoke from the depths of darkness, the deity of fate chose six heroes and bequeathed them with the power to save the world. Adlet, a boy who proclaims himself the strongest on Earth, was selected among the Rokka no Yuusha (Heroes of the Six Flowers), and he goes to the rendezvous point — but seven have gathered there. The heroes suspect that someone among the seven is the enemy, and the initial suspicion falls on Adlet. The main description clearly states the current plot* of the story. They say there should be only six heroes when they are seven. While the main plot* is defeating the Maijin, it states clearly that the plot of the season will be finding who is the seventh. Is there anything bad with putting mystery into an action series or vice-versa? Not necessarily, it is subjective and one should comment or post with a civilized manner or at least, with a constructive purpose. All I have read is plothole this, plothole there, plothole is plothole is plothole is plothole which ends ups being illuminati + plothole blabbery. You're nitpicking stupid facts and trying to force them on other people. That isn't even near to an argument my fellow forumer. Also, quoting a comment from some nice forumer: Had my laughs and couldn't agree more with him. As for a blood trail, they're not a real thing. If he's losing so much blood he'd leave a substantial trail he'd be dead from the wound anyway. Then you probably have no idea how human body works. They are a real thing, deep wounds like a knife's deep cut will leave a trace, even with the knife still in the wound. Do a small experiment, fill a plastic bottle and insert a knife and try running with it. You will see that it will leave a trail, no matter how tight the wound is, specially since he was running and with the weight of Fremy creating greater pressure over his wound, it wouldn't be that hard to leave a trail. I would believe if he was just walking in normal conditions but he wasn't. |
| At first I was assuming there were actually 7 Braves, as Flamie was half-human, half-kyouma, she wouldn't count. Then I read all this thread, the ep didn't get me convinced about an 8th person existing but that talking about Riura made some sense. Anyway, I was doubting Maura and the Bunny Girl (for a lot of reasons already stated ITT). So I decided to rewatch all openings and endings and found this:  http://picpaste.com/Belial.Rokka_no_Yuusha_-_05-iCYuAP00.jpg Maura tells us that if a brave dies, a petal disapears, so each petal is assigned to a brave, and they disapear if they die. So if the petals are colored.. =p Assuming I didn't fail guessing their colors: Red - Adlet Dark Blue - Maura Light Blue - Flamie Dark Green - Goldov Light Green - Chamo Yellow - Hans Missng: Bunny Girl (Nashetania) I rewatched the eps and went teorycrafting, but I still found no way for the bunny girl to activate the fog even assuming Riura activating a fake fog, as someone said in here. That panic mode is the key imo, assuming the fog can be activated without saying the words, or her placing the word (as she can control blades and then finishing the ritual on the panic mode (touching the tablet)). But the bunny girl seems like the obvious target, though I have no idea how or what's her motives. Edit: Typos |
belialAug 9, 2015 11:09 PM
| Alot of this is just stupid to me, because Maura has already said that the person who activated it can either deactivate it, or die. So if all of the Braves try deactivating the seal and fail, none of them put the seal up. So there must in fact be, an eighth person. Why no one suspects Goldov is beyond me. Why Adlet is so fucking weird is now starting to become clear to me because we got to see a little of his past, but he's still the weirdest one out of all of them, and that includes a homicidal loli, neko-man, and Nasche-whatever (boringest character in the world, is her title). BUT! Good on Adlet for smiling. He'll solve the mystery, everyone will feel like shit for trying to kill him, and we can PLEASE move on to fight the demon god already. Or, you know what, just let the demon god kill all of them. That'd make a better episode. |
| Pretty interesting locked room mystery. Wonder how the culprit was able to pull of the stunt. Assuming that it's the bunny girl who's the seventh, it wouldn't be surprising that Goldof helped her since he really likes her. Plus he kept giving her these looks the whole episode. Could just be jealousy due to her caring for Adlet though. |
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| Yet another great & suspenseful episode, & the best was no poor animation. Thank you, Passione. Still confused about who's the culprit of this whole situation. I have my suspicion over a character, but there's no strong proof for it. Just another speculation, very weak at that. I hope we get more clue next episode. DarcyD said: Alot of this is just stupid to me, because Maura has already said that the person who activated it can either deactivate it, or die. So if all of the Braves try deactivating the seal and fail, none of them put the seal up. So there must in fact be, an eighth person. Why no one suspects Goldov is beyond me. That's one way to do it. Unfortunately, none of them know how to deactivate it, as it's been established in episode 5. |
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belial said: Anyway, I was doubting Maura and the Bunny Girl (for a lot of reasons already stated ITT). So I decided to rewatch all openings and endings and found this: http://picpaste.com/Belial.Rokka_no_Yuusha_-_05-iCYuAP00.jpg Maura tells us that if a brave dies, a petal disapears, so each petal is assigned to a brave, and they disapear if they die. So if the petals are colored.. =p Assuming I didn't fail guessing their colors: Red - Adlet Dark Blue - Maura Light Blue - Flamie Dark Green - Goldov Light Green - Chamo Yellow - Hans Missng: Bunny Girl (Nashetania) Isn't Nashetania yellow? Yellow doesn't suit assassins at all. |
Jokas said: 6 episode and still think that adlet is loser not worth of mc title :/ i hope he will show his true mainly side Mainly side? like, getting the solution drop into his lap because he's the main character, or some other coincidence? I think he proved himself to be a main character when he befriended Fremy. Ordinary people couldn't have done it. |
Zapredon said: What seriously? So we have to wait until final episode to know who are the fake? waiting to get the answer is not how it works, the point of mystery stories is to find out the answer before the end of the story reveals it |
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| Ok, I'm 99.9% sure Nashetania's the 7th. |
| I still have no idea how they are going to get out of this situation. |
 Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
| I don't think you are supposed to take Adlet's 8th person theory seriously. |
KaiserNazrin said: I don't think you are supposed to take Adlet's 8th person theory seriously. Yes, you can't take this theory seriously.. |
Blankbite said: If you've noticed, Nashetania made a drama that broke something placed on the pedestal. I assume that which was broken is the key to deactivate it or they could have figured how to deactivate it if it did not broke. So assuming that an eight person exist, then Nashetania + 8th person = culprit. Remember that Adlet also hypothesis that there are 2 enemies. I think there's nothing important broke because of that, since one of the Braves would have mentioned it if there is. And Mora had done a serious inspection on the ritual pedestal, even the scroll that was flew away because of Nashetania's rage. Even she did not mention anything about something being broke. |
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KaiserNazrin said: I don't think you are supposed to take Adlet's 8th person theory seriously. His theory may be absurd but the idea itself is possible, that the traitor has an accomplice, who knows if that accomplice is one of the real braves or is another person out there. |
MizunashiAug 10, 2015 6:31 AM
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flannan said: belial said: Anyway, I was doubting Maura and the Bunny Girl (for a lot of reasons already stated ITT). So I decided to rewatch all openings and endings and found this: http://picpaste.com/Belial.Rokka_no_Yuusha_-_05-iCYuAP00.jpg Maura tells us that if a brave dies, a petal disapears, so each petal is assigned to a brave, and they disapear if they die. So if the petals are colored.. =p Assuming I didn't fail guessing their colors: Red - Adlet Dark Blue - Maura Light Blue - Flamie Dark Green - Goldov Light Green - Chamo Yellow - Hans Missng: Bunny Girl (Nashetania) Isn't Nashetania yellow? Yellow doesn't suit assassins at all. Notice how I left Yellow to the end, was exactly for that reason. But I had no more doubt about it when I saw Hans eyes, I also thought she could be Light Blue due to the her Ending, making Flamie the odd one out, then re-watched Flamies ending and confirmed she is indeed the Light Blue one. (also confirmed at 16:39 of ep 6) Even ignoring this the bunny girl is suspicious enough, that panic mode was weird and seemed convinient, she was the 3rd to touch the blade, and did break the tome/tablet after Goldov and Adlet tried to release the barrier. Also she was the one that suggested Adlet to go ahead to the temple. An 8th person also makes sense, why would the fiends be luring the braves to the temple if not to trap them all at the same time? Being that all of the braves had an alibi except Chamot. The bombing could also have a meaning, as the temple wasn't being bombed but the fiends knew it was there. |
belial said: Even ignoring this the bunny girl is suspicious enough, that panic mode was weird and seemed convinient, I've always thought the anime authors just screwed up that part, and the princess should descend into panic slower. |
SovereignSky said: 1)The fact she was waiting for Adlett in to get the crest, Zefyris said: 1)She wasn't waiting for him. All the braves gets their crest at the exact same time. So when she got hers, she went to the prison to check if Adlet didn't get one. Because well, how much time before someone notice and get him out as a brave? She knew he was a possibility and was trapped there so she went. Saw his creft, got him out. That's really all there was to it. The moment the demon god start to awaken, the crests appear for everyone. So she was just in her palace as usual until that day. Didn't wait anyone. Thanks for clarifying Zefyris, I also had the same doubt about her waiting Adlet got crest. |
SephilAug 10, 2015 8:02 AM
belial said: Anyway, I was doubting Maura and the Bunny Girl (for a lot of reasons already stated ITT). So I decided to rewatch all openings and endings and found this: http://picpaste.com/Belial.Rokka_no_Yuusha_-_05-iCYuAP00.jpg Maura tells us that if a brave dies, a petal disapears, so each petal is assigned to a brave, and they disapear if they die. So if the petals are colored.. =p Assuming I didn't fail guessing their colors: Red - Adlet Dark Blue - Maura Light Blue - Flamie Dark Green - Goldov Light Green - Chamo Yellow - Hans Missng: Bunny Girl (Nashetania) This is of particular interest to me, nice find! I was speculating that each Brave is represented by a petal that if one of them dies, the petal that vanishes on the crest will be the same assuming they are viewed at the correct side up. That poses a major challenge in faking the crest (less one petal) if not by magic and this should be easy to verify for all but Adlet and Fremy who both have their crest on the back of their hands. Anyway, if you are using eye color, shouldn't that be consistent to all? Reassign them to eye color and I think you will get. Red - Nashetania Dark Blue - nobody? Light Blue - Flamie Dark Green - Goldov & Mora Light Green - Chamo Yellow - Hans Adlet becomes the odd man out because his eyes are orange. Arranging them by the color scheme of their designs though, I agree with flannan that yellow is more appropriate for Nashetania. Red - Adlet Dark Blue - Mora Light Blue - Flamie? Hans? Dark Green - Goldov Light Green - Chamo Yellow - Nashetania Lol in this case, my money is on Hans as the 7th. |
| What if the seventh isn't an ally to the Demon King but is doing all this for other purpose. That will fit with Goldof. Goldof seems to be crazy about the princess. So instead of letting her get away from him and going into a dangerous battle he may have decided to pretend he was chosen as one of the six so he can be with her. He may also be afraid of the princess getting hurt fighting the Demon lord and decided to trap her with him and stop her from going in a quest to fight the demon lord. Throwing also the blame on a guy who sees like a rival that wants to takes his princess away from him to a dangerous place might also be the icing on the cake. |
| WTF ?! The episode felt like 5 minutes ... This is too damn good >_< I liked this kind of anime, mystery mixed with adventure genre. 5/5 This eps |
darboux said: Well for me its Nashetania. 1) From the start of the anime she is always extremely clingy/interested in adlet She already explained why in EP2. Nashetania: Has never seen live actions and she doesnt seem that much strong.She is the only one that doesnt fit to be chosen by the godess even she herself admited the guy that adlet took out easily was defeated by her only because he went easy on her.... Are people watching this show goldfishes? SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT GOLDOF. And while she was not in any wars, she is at least as strong as him and won the tournament twice in a row. Also she had no problems taking out shitload of fiends once she got over the whole adrenaline rush. 3) The BIGGEST clue she went ''nuts'' and broke the plate,it was shown in detail she broke that plate.Why would she go so conveniently and break that?People say because she is inexperienced and paniced BUT she herself said she had military training all her life and she was even set to be executed by her father no?So she shouldnt panic that easy in that situation for real,even tho she hadnt fighting experience she went through some stuff.Its obvious as a day the bunny girl with big boobs is not as naive as she seems. She did not have any military training. WTF are you talking about. She was about to be executed during the civil war. And it was already established she crumbles under pressure despite her strength. And the plate that broke was not important - everyone else is not an idiot. If anything important was broken by her it would be she that would be tied up and hunted, not ADlet. 4) She was the one that said ''ADLET GO ON AHEAD WE TAKE IT FROM HERE'' its like she is the one that send adlet to go alone to the temple. Again, it makes sense for Warrior, Archer and Mage to take on an army while Rogue sneaks past to the goal the army is trying to destroy. So how she did it?Well my theory : 1) What if the mist has nothing to do with the barrier(i know it would be stupid but that way it makes sense nashetania being the one) and somehow the fiend at the start was used to create the mist the moment adlet entered the temple and nashetania by ''randomly'' playing with the knife actually activated the real barrier.Noone of the braves knows how the activation of the barrier really works so noone could suspect her.Also because of the mist people think the barrier was activated the moment adlet entered.... 2) the mist is completely random natural phenomenon and has nothing to do with the barrier...and nashetania used it to her advantage? My only problem in this theory is the damn mist i cannot explain,but i think unless we get some explanations how the barrier can get activated we wont be able to figure it out. Tho if nashetania is the one it would be stupid why? 1)She could easily have killed adlet when he was in prison without anyone ever learning he was a brave. 2)She could have used godolf to kill the gun girl later or better seduce godolf and kill him and later on framing the gun girl and the rest of the braves would kill her. That is way more efficient plan,because she would blend in with the braves and she would already have gotten rid of 3 of them making it easy win for the demon king.... Well dunno thats how i see it^^.So in the end dunno the old chick mora or whats her name seems the 2nd most suspicious to me. Adlet and Hans already confirmed last episode that the barrier is active. |
AhenshihaelAug 10, 2015 11:12 AM
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| Nashetania and Moira. They are royalty. It's fair to expect they to betray their people just to stay in power and would first change sides if Demon God's guaranteed their privileges. Hans is an assassin. Even though he is expected to change sides, he is also very likely to be sacrificed by the ruling class, so he won't go to the Demon God side. Chamot is living weapon. She kills because this is only thing she was ever taught to do, but she doesn't need to be especially treacherous and manipulative though and doesn't need deception which situation require. Adlet is man from the people. He want to be hero because he want up. Can be either side. Goldov is fanatic/soldier. If nobility tells him to jump, he jumps and max. asks how high. He would betray anyone if Nashetania tells him to do so, but doesn't have any ambition of his own. Flemie is a half-fiend traitor. She doesn't care about politics, she doesn't care for humans and demons things as both sides hate her. She don't need convoluted plots. Chamot, Hans and Flemie aren't trustworthy or nice as individuals, but they aren't types to be on planning side of any insidious plot and are already taught they will be sacrificed by whoever planner they gave them the task. Goldov would do this only when directly ordered by his Mistress which makes a second traitor possible. Nashetania and Moira are more likely to be brains of the operation, so usually a reason behind the problem. Very likely they would manipulate the true braves. Adlet can go either way and only thing that supports him is the fact show follows his POV. |
MaliseAug 10, 2015 11:13 AM
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ValhasDrew said: SweetCoconut said: It will most likely be the last episode. If it happens sooner(like ep 9-10), Passione rushed the plot/episodes >.>Nice episode and i need more of Adlet's past. To LN readers, what episode do you think they'll reveal the 7th Brave? Thanks. But i heard that Passione is adapting this accurately but oh well. |
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GSupernova said: ValhasDrew said: @GSupernova:There's no plot hole here. If they can't track him, it isn't a plot hole. It is like saying that in other series, a character that doesn't manages to catch up assuming he is faster than the villain has poor story writing building up for him as background ¬_¬ I'm going to reiterate this one more time. The plothole is not necessarily that Adlet escapes from the situation itself. That is fine, and he is fully capable of doing so. The problem lies in the source's complete disregard to even address the whole bleeding and leaving a trail thing. The fact that it could play a factor in them tracking them down. Hell, even a "it's getting too dark to track him down even by the blood in this fog, we'll have to wait until tomorrow to try and pick it up" would have sufficed. Every defense provided is essentially just speculation filling in the holes between what is known because there's really nothing in the source that directly proves your claim(or mine). The acknowledgement of blood at all is a missing element pivotal to the outcome of this story in the way it is presented(not saying that it couldn't have been done other ways, or even done this way differently). It may not be a contradiction, but it's still a hole. I mean, your guys' explanation is a decent one, to be sure, but at the end of the day it's just a fan theory. Um first a plot hole is an narrative inconsistency that unintentionally contracts a previously established plot element in the story by the author. Whether Adlet should left a ton of blood or doesn't contradict anything as it isn't very important. The knife itself is acting as wedge to his wound anyway so he's not going to be spilling lots of blood, furthermore he escaped at night into a the surrounding forest which foggy as fuck. You're gonna anybody in that if you can barely see your feet at that time. It shouldn't need be spelled out why they would stop and wait for morning. |
Iron_MawAug 10, 2015 11:50 AM
Boukenxha said: belial said: Maura tells us that if a brave dies, a petal disapears, so each petal is assigned to a brave, and they disapear if they die. So if the petals are colored.. =p Assuming I didn't fail guessing their colors: Red - Adlet Dark Blue - Maura Light Blue - Flamie Dark Green - Goldov Light Green - Chamo Yellow - Hans Missng: Bunny Girl (Nashetania) This is of particular interest to me, nice find! I was speculating that each Brave is represented by a petal that if one of them dies, the petal that vanishes on the crest will be the same assuming they are viewed at the correct side up. That poses a major challenge in faking the crest (less one petal) if not by magic and this should be easy to verify for all but Adlet and Fremy who both have their crest on the back of their hands. Anyway, if you are using eye color, shouldn't that be consistent to all? Reassign them to eye color and I think you will get. Red - Nashetania Dark Blue - nobody? Light Blue - Flamie Dark Green - Goldov & Mora Light Green - Chamo Yellow - Hans Adlet becomes the odd man out because his eyes are orange. Arranging them by the color scheme of their designs though, I agree with flannan that yellow is more appropriate for Nashetania. Red - Adlet Dark Blue - Mora Light Blue - Flamie? Hans? Dark Green - Goldov Light Green - Chamo Yellow - Nashetania Lol in this case, my money is on Hans as the 7th. The only change I think is possible from my list, is Maura being Yellow and Hans Dark Blue (like his hair), due to the fact that Maura using her powers her color is Yellow, can be confirmed at 1:23 of Ep 6 (what I used to try to confirm that Flamie was Light Blue). darboux said: 1) What if the mist has nothing to do with the barrier(i know it would be stupid but that way it makes sense nashetania being the one) and somehow the fiend at the start was used to create the mist the moment adlet entered the temple and nashetania by ''randomly'' playing with the knife actually activated the real barrier.Noone of the braves knows how the activation of the barrier really works so noone could suspect her.Also because of the mist people think the barrier was activated the moment adlet entered.... Exactly what I thought, but like I said on my post I re-watched the ep for details, she was the 3rd touching the blade, Goldov was the one that removed it, she was the only one touching the 3 items but said nothing like the "Rise Fog". It still doesn't explain how the sword was already in, though I also assumed the bunny girl could control that blade and place it remotely (we have no idea the range of her powers or if it works with other blades). Chamo is the only one without an Alibi but doesn't fit, Maura is my second guess as she has all the info and in case of an 8th she would be the one who could choose it effectively (she knows all the saints). This is, ignoring the Crest colors from the OP, because bunny girl seems the obvious target here |
| Didn't Adlet try and deactivate the barrier when it was just him Nashetania, Fremy and Goldov in the room in episode 4? |
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darboux said: Maybe the 8th person is the guy at ep 3 that explained how to activate the barrier? He lied to Adlet so Nashetania wouldnt be suspected? and the process of activating the barrier was pull out the sword and break the plate by saying i will be the mistress/master of the barrier^^. Add to that the Fiend that adlet encountered had some kind of power to generate mist .......that way all is explained.The guy lied to adlet about the way to activate the barrier,Nashetania activated without being suspected,and everyone suspected Adlet because the fiend generated fake mist before Nashetania really activated the barrier. Boom mystery solved^^. By 8th person we mean someone INSIDE the barrier, we assumed someone who can fake the fog, so nashetanya could activate it while "trying" do deactivate it (panic modez). IF the fiend is the one responsible for the fog, then she had to do some planning with the fiends, seems a bit improbable to me. We are also missing WTF the Fiends were bombing, because even if it was to lure them all in, wouldn't they be bombing near the Temple? The bombing can't be unrelated to all of this and no one mentioned fighting the flying fiends. GSupernova said: belial said: Exactly what I thought, but like I said on my post I re-watched the ep for details, she was the 3rd touching the blade, Goldov was the one that removed it, she was the only one touching the 3 items but said nothing like the "Rise Fog". It still doesn't explain how the sword was already in, though I also assumed the bunny girl could control that blade and place it remotely (we have no idea the range of her powers or if it works with other blades). What if the phrase to activate the barrier wasn't 'Rise Fog' but was actually whatever mad phrase(can't remember the exact wording) she uttered while going berserk with the sword? 'I will be the mistress of the barrier' or whatever? Or do you think the sword needs to be in the dias the entire time? Did anyone ever say 'Rise Fog' during the entire time they were discussing things inside the temple(before they confirmed the barrier was active with the string?) Exactly, the closer phrase was "Kekkai no Kaijo desu", meaning "Release the Barrier", but the sword was never placed again, and she wasn't touching the tome, though she did after that (breaking it with the sword). But yeah, we donºt know how to desactivate the barrier, it would be wise to assume that we don't know much about it's activation too Mabol said: Didn't Adlet try and deactivate the barrier when it was just him Nashetania, Fremy and Goldov in the room in episode 4? If you don't know how, trying to deactivate it doesn't mean much. |
Mabol said: Didn't Adlet try and deactivate the barrier when it was just him Nashetania, Fremy and Goldov in the room in episode 4? belial said: If you don't know how, trying to deactivate it doesn't mean much. Maybe that was the right way to deactivate the barrier if it was an actual barrier. He mention before that their was a brave who could activate such barrier and they released it by pouring their blood into the ground saying "rise fog" so wouldn't that mean the the actual fog is a illusion or a new type of barrier spell ? |
MabolAug 10, 2015 3:28 PM
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Mabol said: Mabol said: Didn't Adlet try and deactivate the barrier when it was just him Nashetania, Fremy and Goldov in the room in episode 4? darboux said: If you don't know how, trying to deactivate it doesn't mean much. Maybe that was the right way to deactivate the barrier if it was an actual barrier. He mention before that their was a brave who could activate such barrier and they released it by pouring their blood into the ground saying "rise fog" so wouldn't that mean the the actual fog is a illusion or a new type of barrier spell ? He didn't activate the barrier, so trying to deactivate it wouldn't do anything. Also, if it was the bunny girl activating it, it happened AFTER they tried to deactivate it. |
darboux said: belial said: By 8th person we mean someone INSIDE the barrier, we assumed someone who can fake the fog, so nashetanya could activate it while "trying" do deactivate it (panic modez). IF the fiend is the one responsible for the fog, then she had to do some planning with the fiends, seems a bit improbable to me. We are also missing WTF the Fiends were bombing, because even if it was to lure them all in, wouldn't they be bombing near the Temple? The bombing can't be unrelated to all of this and no one mentioned fighting the flying fiends. Maybe the fiends used the bombs to help the fiend that adlet encountered to create fake mist?Only explanation i can come up. Also 1 thing that makes it imposible for someone activating the barrier before adlet enter is that he would need the key.Or else if he forced his way in the guards of the temple would have his name!!!So only mora could enter and activate the curse before adlet entered without being noticed BUT then the mist would start WAY before adlet gets to the temple(or else adlet would have seen her getting out or near the temple) and rest of the braves would take note of it.So only logical conclusion (considering we saw adlet couldnt have done it) is Goldof/Bunny girl.And only the bunny girl did weird stuff with the dagger.Thats why i say the dude at ep 3 is lying for sure,coz the barrier got activated without anyone doing what he said........if he lied+fiends helped with the mist bunny girl pulled it off without any suspicion. You seem pretty hell-bent on your theory that someone activated the barrier AFTER everyone arrived at the temple. I'm curious... Why is it that you think your theory more plausible than the theory of someone sneaking into the temple during the period during which the guards came out to attack Adlet, Adlet watching the Fiend transform and escape, and then realizing that the fog was already in the air? If you knew how the barrier was activated, and your main objective was to activate the barrier to trap all "7" Rokkas in the barrier to create a situation for them to kill each other, then would you just leave things to a chance mist that just so happened to be in the air? Considering that Adlet was with Nashetania for most of the time previously, and Goldov found her during the exact fight that Adlet ran away from, then when would she have any time to conspire with the Fiends (if she really is the 7th) to perform such an intricate plan? Also, consider this logically, Nashetania's ability is to create multiple blades from her original, how in the world would that create a mist? Same as for Goldov. In fact, the only person I would expect to have the resources to use science to do anything at this moment (as he has done so previously with his bag of tricks) is Adlet. |
L-RyoshiAug 10, 2015 5:45 PM
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