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Lichtspiel said: Hm. I can't really say that this knocked my socks off. The animation is sometimes quite mediocre and the action scenes are not really action scenes. The pacing was slow and sometimes didn't feel right. Yeah the action scenes are not really action scenes at times, but oh well. I just hope the last episode is good. Just 3 more days to go. |
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| pretty good action this episode. Damn but it really sometimes has those yaoi elements :) "Princess Yuu" kappa |
| Oh so THATS where the entire seasons budget went. and went quickly =/ I'm super disappointed with this show. The second season better be GODLY. |
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Rebelhero said: Oh so THATS where the entire seasons budget went. and went quickly =/ I'm super disappointed with this show. The second season better be GODLY. I came here rite after finishing the episode with such an underwhelmed feeling towards the episode... but it was all worth it just to get that laugh I just got from reading your comment. LOL |
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frenze12 said: mira-nyan said: No, it's fine. This is how most of us felt at first, too. Plus, it's not just one organisation. Just watch, it'll become clearer^ And, like I said, the vampires are still at fault, but I've just learnt to ignore their condescending and arrogant nature. :P Another problem i have with the show is how the vampires don't really make a convincing example with their words. I admit i can't really speak for the creation of the virus so with currently limited proof the vampires win this one. (But why would humans create a weapon that would kill them? Clearly someone "not really sane" was responsible for it. But humans as a whole?) A better example would be the little girl that "lied" to protect her family a few episodes back. No judge in the entire world is going to condem her. Infact depending on her motivation both choices can be "correct". There is no right or wrong here, she committed no sin. If there was someone to blame it would be the side who forced her that sadistic choice to begin with. Which just happened to be the vampires in this case. Well 1) Lying is a sin, lol. 2) Hmm, half and half. It's not normal religious people, it's fundamentalists. They're sane, but ehh, this led to that led to this and BOOM, we haz a monster. Ofc, I could always give you the actual explanation(in spoilers), lol. 3) It's not just one person. It's multiple people and organisations around the world trying to achieve the same thing. 4) Yes, the vampires are horrible. But the humans are just as bad. And, like you said, it's not all vampires. I, for one, know that Krul is a nice, gentle person in general. |
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frenze12 said: (But why would humans create a weapon that would kill them? They do this all the time in THE REAL WORLD. Surely you've heard about nuclear power? Atomic bombs? Chernobyl!? I'm sorry, but what you're asking is a very stupid question. Humans mess with dangerous stuff constantly with the intention being good....but then it gets out of their control. All the time. ALL THE FREAKING TIME. Yuu is one such experiment that they lost control of. That's quite obvious. |
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Chiibi said: I just hope that's not the only time it gets out of control. Like, we see this really crazy monster sprouting from his back, Shinoa hugs him and it's gone. Hopefully, it gets more and more dangerous.Yuu is one such experiment that they lost control of. Anyway, I liked this episode, but it annoyed me too, mainly because it was full of 'what could have been'. In my opinion, this should have been a dark, character driven tale about two brothers (I know they're not biologically related, but they're brothers nonetheless) torn from each other and fighting for each other; Yū fights for justice, and Mika fights for his brother, whom he wishes to find and protect. If they hadn't skipped through so much, if they'd cared enough to spend time with the characters, this could be a very intense series. As it stands, only Mikaela gets character development, and Yū sadly lacks development. Shinoa is fun, and so is Ichinose, and I really like the vampires, but there's not a lot of originality story- and character-wise. The reunion scene was far more powerful than it deserved to be, in such a mediocre anime, but still, I was moved. I am invested in Yū's plight, in Mika's struggle, and I will continue to watch and to hope that the series improves, though I have my doubts. Technically speaking, they need to stop with the whole, 'Someone's about to get killed, but someone else saves them at the last second' thing. It takes out a lot of the tension. Had they not pulled that out of the hat multiple times already, the moment where Mika saves Shinoa would have been far more surprising, and I would have been more excited. And what was up with the animation? Mostly it was at least okay - and I loved Yū's transformation (possession? whatever you want to call it, I guess) scene - but the moment that the gas station collapsed? What was that all about? The rest was fine. So it goes. |
Bittenfeld said: To tell you my honest feelings, Admiral Müller, as the groom at a wedding ceremony, the Kaiser is simply just a handsome man, I'm afraid to say. But as the supreme fleet admiral who leads entire fleets, he's really a godly person. Don't you think so, too? Müller said: I think he's quite godly as a groom, too. |
NERigby96 said: As it stands, only Mikaela gets character development, and Yū sadly lacks development. That's really not true; it's pretty much opposite. Yuu has mellowed out a little by now and actually listens to what others tell him. He used to rush into things without thinking or trusting anyone. Mika has gone from a gentle child to a powerful fighter who's cold towards everyone but Yuu. I dunno if I'd call that development, really. The reunion scene was far more powerful than it deserved to be Why doesn't a character "deserve" to get emotional over seeing his brother whom he thought was dead for four years? |
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| Pretty disappointing... The only good thing that actually came out of this is the humans not being totally good guys so we can at least say this series is trying not to make this too black and white. Other than that it was crap. While Mika has a legitimate reason for not liking humans his explanations aren't in depth. Guren is a fail character on so many levels Shinoa has been what I've stated since episode 1. Unfunny fanservice character with no real purpose for plot except for her to be downgraded into a love interest. That cliche hug was facepalm worthy. Her character(what little she had) is destroyed. The vampires all act the same cept Crowley and Krul 2/5 At this point Krul(only decent character) should just slaughter the humans and I'd give mad props but nope generic we have. Generic is fine if executed well but this isn't |
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Chiibi said: NERigby96 said: As it stands, only Mikaela gets character development, and Yū sadly lacks development. That's really not true; it's pretty much opposite. Yuu has mellowed out a little by now and actually listens to what others tell him. He used to rush into things without thinking or trusting anyone. Mika has gone from a gentle child to a powerful fighter who's cold towards everyone but Yuu. I dunno if I'd call that development, really. The reunion scene was far more powerful than it deserved to be Why doesn't a character "deserve" to get emotional over seeing his brother whom he thought was dead for four years? Except that still qualifies as development. Contrary to popular belief development doesn't always involve. "Bad guy to good guy". There's different ways of getting development and yes only Mika is getting it. Hardly any character is getting depth except Mika Yuu Yoichi and maybe Mitsu However Mitsu mand Yoichi barely gets screentime so that doesn't matter |
TheGrandSage23 said: Except that still qualifies as development. Contrary to popular belief development doesn't always involve. "Bad guy to good guy". If the character is heading down the wrong path, I'm pretty sure that's "derailment". Not development. only Mika is getting it. Um nope. I don't think you're paying attention. Shinoa has been what I've stated since episode 1. Unfunny fanservice character Nothing about Shinoa is "fanservicey" at all and MOST people with a sense of humor do find her very funny. That cliche hug was facepalm worthy. Her character(what little she had) is destroyed. What the f*ck are you talking about. Caring about her team mate "destroys" her character? She hasn't even acknowledged if she likes him that way yet. Have you actually forgotten that Shinoa is the LEADER of the team because she has the most experience and knowledge about what's going on!? |
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Chiibi said: TheGrandSage23 said: Except that still qualifies as development. Contrary to popular belief development doesn't always involve. "Bad guy to good guy". If the character is heading down the wrong path, I'm pretty sure that's "derailment". Not development. only Mika is getting it. Um nope. I don't think you're paying attention. Shinoa has been what I've stated since episode 1. Unfunny fanservice character Nothing about Shinoa is "fanservicey" at all and MOST people with a sense of humor do find her very funny. That cliche hug was facepalm worthy. Her character(what little she had) is destroyed. What the f*ck are you talking about. Caring about her team mate "destroys" her character? She hasn't even acknowledged if she likes him that way yet. Have you actually forgotten that Shinoa is the LEADER of the team because she has the most experience and knowledge about what's going on!? No it destroys her character because she is essentially a deus ex machina. She's only there to calm Yuu out of rage which obviously in the bigger picture is for shipper fuel because that's the only value her character has. Being an extension of Yuu because by herself she's nothing but comic relief with no depth no insight to her character. The sad thing is the series doesn't even try. The only thing interesting about Shinoa is her badass scythe. We got more action and insight from Mitsuba's intro episodes than we did of Shinoa in 9 episodes "Most people find her funny" most people exist outside of OWS forums and MAL completely and even then there are people who are getting tired of her being one dimensional "Shinoa is the leader of the team" yet for 10 episodes she never presented herself as one. Mitsu acted more of a leader. Hell even Yuu took charge. And her experience clearly didn't matter nor her knowledge since she's been on the sidelines only repeating what Guren taught Yuu and the others. She finally took action in episode 9. If she's the leader then she's a poor excuse of one "Nothing about Shinoa is fanservice" fanservice aka- cute one dimensional girl with badass scythe she rarely uses She isn't stripping but she's still fanservice. "If a character is headed down the wrong path that's called derailment" Bullshit. You need to learn the actual definition. If the transition for example "Hero to villain" has actual purpose and said character has legitimate reasons for doing so that's development. Light Yagami- Hero-Anti Hero-Villain. The transitions made sense within the story and complimented his decent to corruption via supernatural means. That's not derailment. That's realistic development. We're done |
TheGrandSage23 said: No it destroys her character because she is essentially a deus ex machina. Lol what. That's not what a deus ex machina even is. We're done Lol, such a "you pissed me off so I dismiss your debate" type of quote. Nice. |
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TheGrandSage23 said: No it destroys her character because she is essentially a deus ex machina. She's only there to calm Yuu out of rage which obviously in the bigger picture is for shipper fuel because that's the only value her character has. Being an extension of Yuu because by herself she's nothing but comic relief with no depth no insight to her character. The sad thing is the series doesn't even try. The only thing interesting about Shinoa is her badass scythe. We got more action and insight from Mitsuba's intro episodes than we did of Shinoa in 9 episodes You shouldn't think of it as a 'desu ex machina' because emotions are a human thing. She just brought his human side back out by hugging to him and talking-ish to him and calming him down, e.t.c "Most people find her funny" most people exist outside of OWS forums and MAL completely and even then there are people who are getting tired of her being one dimensional Then keep watching. She has so much to her character that you haven't even seen yet. Shit legit get real in the chapters 24-33 with her character. It's only chapter 14 in the anime. "Shinoa is the leader of the team" yet for 10 episodes she never presented herself as one. Mitsu acted more of a leader. Hell even Yuu took charge. And her experience clearly didn't matter nor her knowledge since she's been on the sidelines only repeating what Guren taught Yuu and the others. She finally took action in episode 9. If she's the leader then she's a poor excuse of one About the leadership thing, it will be explained by Guren as the story progresses. Plus she kinda follows Guren so ehhh. "Nothing about Shinoa is fanservice" fanservice aka- cute one dimensional girl with badass scythe she rarely uses She isn't stripping but she's still fanservice. She isn't one dimensional, tho. You just have yet to see her whole character. Oh, wow, just totally spoil me. I find it funny how you're using buzzwords like 'one dimensional' and 'fanservice' and 'deux es machina' when you have yet to see the whole picture. :/ No, the next episode itself should resolve some of your qualms. |
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Chiibi said: TheGrandSage23 said: No it destroys her character because she is essentially a deus ex machina. Lol what. That's not what a deus ex machina even is. We're done Lol, such a "you pissed me off so I dismiss your debate" type of quote. Nice. When did I dismiss you're debate? I gave my opinions and observations and said we're done. I'm not going to start a flame war with some person who can't grasp the concept that people don't have your mindset.Me being pissed off has no relevance. |
mira-nyan said: TheGrandSage23 said: No it destroys her character because she is essentially a deus ex machina. She's only there to calm Yuu out of rage which obviously in the bigger picture is for shipper fuel because that's the only value her character has. Being an extension of Yuu because by herself she's nothing but comic relief with no depth no insight to her character. The sad thing is the series doesn't even try. The only thing interesting about Shinoa is her badass scythe. We got more action and insight from Mitsuba's intro episodes than we did of Shinoa in 9 episodes You shouldn't think of it as a 'desu ex machina' because emotions are a human thing. She just brought his human side back out by hugging to him and talking-ish to him and calming him down, e.t.c "Most people find her funny" most people exist outside of OWS forums and MAL completely and even then there are people who are getting tired of her being one dimensional Then keep watching. She has so much to her character that you haven't even seen yet. Shit legit get real in the chapters 24-33 with her character. It's only chapter 14 in the anime. "Shinoa is the leader of the team" yet for 10 episodes she never presented herself as one. Mitsu acted more of a leader. Hell even Yuu took charge. And her experience clearly didn't matter nor her knowledge since she's been on the sidelines only repeating what Guren taught Yuu and the others. She finally took action in episode 9. If she's the leader then she's a poor excuse of one About the leadership thing, it will be explained by Guren as the story progresses. Plus she kinda follows Guren so ehhh. "Nothing about Shinoa is fanservice" fanservice aka- cute one dimensional girl with badass scythe she rarely uses She isn't stripping but she's still fanservice. She isn't one dimensional, tho. You just have yet to see her whole character. Oh, wow, just totally spoil me. I find it funny how you're using buzzwords like 'one dimensional' and 'fanservice' and 'deux es machina' when you have yet to see the whole picture. :/ No, the next episode itself should resolve some of your qualms. That's been your argument for Shinoa for awhile. The same could be said for a lot of underdeveloped characters. "You have yet to see the whole picture" "You just have yet to see her whole character" That isn't helping the fact that currently she's arguably the least developed character in the series. Trying to use the manga is irrelevant because I'm discussing the anime. I hope the next episode does take back my arguments. She's a main character. The show should at least give us something to make us invested in her |
TheGrandSage23 said: That's been your argument for Shinoa for awhile. The same could be said for a lot of underdeveloped characters. "You have yet to see the whole picture" "You just have yet to see her whole character" That isn't helping the fact that currently she's arguably the least developed character in the series. Trying to use the manga is irrelevant because I'm discussing the anime. I hope the next episode does take back my arguments. She's a main character. The show should at least give us something to make us invested in her Wel the manga ---> Anime. They're gonna show it anyways, so just watch, read, or drop it. Rather than complaining about something that will be solved in the future. Seriously, it's fine if you don't like her developments, but facades exist. And it's not underdevelopment, it's mystery and suspense. Once getting to know someone, you don't expect them just to tell their life story in one go, do you? :P The next two episodes may or may not take back your arguments. But it does get real in chapters 24-33. Which, btw, will be animated in the second cour. You can complain, fine, but it'll be pretty dumb to rant about a problem that will be solved or explained. |
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Civille said: Guys the seven horns that appeared when yu's monster possesing him does it mean something?I think i read it somewhere about the seven horns. I said I will not go back here... Oh well The seven trumpets are actually in the bible (the book of revelation) It indicates that the End of the World is near. Each trumpet that will will play is equivalent to a calamity coming..... Correct me if I'm wrong. |
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zilch16 said: Civille said: Guys the seven horns that appeared when yu's monster possesing him does it mean something?I think i read it somewhere about the seven horns. I said I will not go back here... Oh well The seven trumpets are actually in the bible (the book of revelation) It indicates that the End of the World is near. Each trumpet that will will play is equivalent to a calamity coming..... Correct me if I'm wrong. Indeed it is. I really liked that part; it was very cool. |
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| okay, this episode was much better than a lot of the previous ones there were some general cliche stuff, obviously to move the plot along i still enjoyed this a little the only main character i really care for is shinoa and it's only because i wanna know more about her i do not care for any of the other character's motivations, honestly the rest are all supporting characters i'm interested in guren's squad though obviously nothing will end up resolved though with one episode left of this cour i kinda wanna read the manga in the hopes that the plot will be less rushed/disjointed and be more fleshed out. |
| Question is how the hell is guren still alive?didnt he get stabbed in the heart already?and hes still conscious after vomiting so much blood,wow. |
| And no one died. I guess that they will end this at a cliff hanger with the end of the battle. |
| Looks like the next episode is gonna be a cliffhanger until the second cour :) |
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| 1)Couldve sworn he was going to die there and then as shock factor since the sword went through his left side. 2)I guess thats how every MC manages to jump like naruto now huh 3)some badass veteran losing to a 16 year old Mika |
frenze12 said: PrevE said: 1)Couldve sworn he was going to die there and then as shock factor since the sword went through his left side. 2)I guess thats how every MC manages to jump like naruto now huh 3)some badass veteran losing to a 16 year old Mika Number 3 is indeed debatable: Altough Mika should be a very powerfull vampire since he was made by the third progenitor. It still doesn't add up how Guren would lose so badly. Unless he was still holding back... Some people still don't understand how powerful vampires are compared to humans. Let me put it this way: have you ever heard of a farmer who got his ass kicked by his livestock? |
| A lot of moments where i thought someone was gonna die...(idk if its a good thing nobody did or not, but hey) I'm really interested in what they meant With Yu's "non Human" self. I doubt its vampire, and despite the Angels in the scene i cant imagine they'll bring another race into the mix.(only thing i can think of is demon, in which case how will that affect the contract) Last episode? I cant wait. (then we got season 2) |
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fst said: frenze12 said: Number 3 is indeed debatable: Altough Mika should be a very powerfull vampire since he was made by the third progenitor. It still doesn't add up how Guren would lose so badly. Unless he was still holding back... Some people still don't understand how powerful vampires are compared to humans. Let me put it this way: have you ever heard of a farmer who got his ass kicked by his livestock? Cows have horns. Horns can kill. So, yes, a farmer can be killed by a live stock. And that's before you count in things like diseases. :P And most likely is holding back, becuz he's Guren like that. |
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mira-nyan said: fst said: Some people still don't understand how powerful vampires are compared to humans. Let me put it this way: have you ever heard of a farmer who got his ass kicked by his livestock? Cows have horns. Horns can kill. So, yes, a farmer can be killed by a live stock. And that's before you count in things like diseases. :P And most likely is holding back, becuz he's Guren like that. mira pls  These kawaii bastards wouldn't hurt a fly. |
fst said: mira pls These kawaii bastards wouldn't hurt a fly. Feet. ~.~ And, still, diseases. Just wait till Crowley catches the flu. :I |
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mira-nyan said: fst said: mira pls These kawaii bastards wouldn't hurt a fly. Feet. ~.~ And, still, diseases. Just wait till Crowley catches the flu. :I Hey You know what diseases spread through blood? AIDS It's only a matter of time before it mutates into VAMPIRE AIDS |
fst said: mira-nyan said: Feet. ~.~ And, still, diseases. Just wait till Crowley catches the flu. :I Hey You know what diseases spread through blood? AIDS It's only a matter of time before it mutates into VAMPIRE AIDS *gasp* >JIDA recommends doing the deed and breeding. >Doing unsafely that can lead to AIDs. >Which is transmuted through bodily fluids >Which Vamps drink. *gasp* So that was Guren's plan all along. :^) |
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| Maybe that's what the Seraph of the End was Their attempt at creating super-AIDS But something went wrong and it became too powerful for them to control  |
| Is it me or does having the Vampires biting into the human make this sightly more, erotic, for say. I somewhat enjoy it, but definitely not in this episode. Not in any episodes, but when you take the fact that they're dying away, it just looks hawt. And no, I did not enjoy any blood sucking this episode, it was horror. 5/5, best episode by far with new plot development, plot advances, and amazing art, and decently animated animations. Really loved the black blood. Looks super inhumane, that's for sure. |
UsaraDark said: Is it me or does having the Vampires biting into the human make this sightly more, erotic, for say. Definitely. But this is part of vampire lore. I don't think I've seen a vampire anime where the bite scene was NOT portrayed as a sensual experience. It's supposed to make the victim feel...um.....pleasure...XD; That's why the animators put a blush in the character's face and make them cry out like...........um yeah. That doesn't feel like the case with Seraph though; it just looks like a horrible thing to go through. |
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frenze12 said: Chiibi said: They do this all the time in THE REAL WORLD. Surely you've heard about nuclear power? Atomic bombs? Chernobyl!? I'm sorry, but what you're asking is a very stupid question. Humans mess with dangerous stuff constantly with the intention being good....but then it gets out of their control. All the time. ALL THE FREAKING TIME. Yuu is one such experiment that they lost control of. That's quite obvious. Atomic bombs could still be used on your enemies. I don't think the virus as well as those horsemen could ever be used against vampires since they only target humans for some reason... I wonder what kind of idiot would create a weapon against themselves... you just answered yourself, if the enemy is other humans then any sort of weapon effective against them is good and just as chibi told you, it's something so common in the real world it's not even worth asking that question, like it hasn't ever existed any sort of "human world unity" in the real world, what if it was the same in the serie's world too? frenze12 said: PrevE said: 1)Couldve sworn he was going to die there and then as shock factor since the sword went through his left side. 2)I guess thats how every MC manages to jump like naruto now huh 3)some badass veteran losing to a 16 year old Mika Number 3 is indeed debatable: Altough Mika should be a very powerfull vampire since he was made by the third progenitor. It still doesn't add up how Guren would lose so badly. Unless he was still holding back... or unless high ranking vampired are totally different from fodder vampires and also, he wasn't losing badly all the time, for a moment he was about to kill mika if ferid hadn't interfered, but the difference in raw power is still there, the only advantage he could have on mika was the surprise effect, once lost that he was powerless fst said: mira-nyan said: And, still, diseases. Just wait till Crowley catches the flu. :I Hey You know what diseases spread through blood? AIDS It's only a matter of time before it mutates into VAMPIRE AIDS xD with all that blood drinking in the vampire city there should be some real good health system, or they should have definitely contracted something even before |
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| Finally the yaoi vibes are here. The only reason why I'm watching this. And look at all the butthurt males out here, it's truly beautiful. |
Aquane said: Finally the yaoi vibes are here. The only reason why I'm watching this. And look at all the butthurt males out here, it's truly beautiful. sorry, not everyone is a fujoshi/gay |
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