Aldnoah.Zero 2nd Season Episode 11 Discussion

MetaKite said:
I agree with everything you said. I originally thought when Slaine saved Saazbuam and more or less had sided with him, he had some sort of Stockholm Syndrome and so attached himself to Saaz. Of course this proved false when Slaine blew him up but it bothers me that it has never been clear why Slaine seemed to be happy as a whipping boy for Vers people to beat on. Staying by the princess side for love does not seem like a strong enough reason to put up with soooo much abuse. It would be nice to go more into Slaine's psyche and why he identifies with Vers.

Darklight0303 said:
Except the knights of the castles CAN already do that. They only need Aldnoah power to make NEW knights. Did you forget that Sazbaum activated Tharsis for Slaine just fine WITHOUT the princess?

2: The loyalists and doubtful were already swayed since the princess was supposed to have been brutally murdered by the villainous Terrans.

So what if Slaine expected her to wake up. That still doesn't make using a fake asseylum to tarnish her image a good move.

Raziel1991 said:
But the narrative is truly that simple. The series has shown the martians doing terrible shit like wiping out the population of entire cities (New Orleans in episode 1) and attacking ships with refugees. On top of that the every martian the Deucalion crew has fought so far has been the very definition of a one dimensional villain and like I said before the series does not even spend any screen time to show the horrible situation the lower classes in vers are supposed to be in.

deadoptimist said:


But they can't produce knights and use the kats they salvage. And I am not sure that Saaz activated Tharsis, it was not shown. My impression is that Slaine had aldnoah afater the kiss, the same way Inaho has.

2. They were ready to wage war, not create a new government.

Er, you use the morals again. But he wanted her to ne the ruler of his new country, he cared for her health and killed the biggest danger to her, despite the fact taht it was his new father.
Caring doesn't equal doing only what the person wants.

Darklight0303 said:
I doubt that Saazbaum would give Slaine a deactivated Kataphract when he doesn't know Slaine has activation rights. SO no he had to have activated it.

2: It's the same bloody thing until they win so it's irrelevant.

3: Not doing what the person wants and completely DESTROYING their reputation and giving them that of a warmonger are two completely different things. He should have done his things without involving the princess.

deadoptimist said:


But he doesn't give it to him. He shows it to him - that's all. Slaine runs to Tharsis in desperation and activates it on his own. Then he pilots it the same way until Lemrina deactivates it.

2. Nope, they need them to fight at their side for the new goal.

3. You use the princess' pov again, and I talk about Slaine's. Again - he cares about her, but that doesn' mean he cares that much about her current opinions. Parents do that all the time with their children, and they are not always incorrect in the end. I don't say that he is, but saying that he doesn't care about her is not true.

Darklight0303 said:
You're missing the point. If he couldn't activate it, Sazbaum would not make that offer. go back and look at the scene. He clearly wants to offer it to Slaine if he wants. How would he do that if Sazbaum couldn't activate it. Tharsis is not a Kataphract from his castle after all it's from Cruhteo.

2:That goal doesn't come into play UNTIL THE WAR IS OVER.

3: Because not caring about opinions is totally the action of someone who GENUINELY cares about you. Yeah right. You're hopeless on that front so lets just drop that angle.

Jonesy974 said:
Well...now I don't know what to do without a ship.

Who the fuck actually wants to ship Klankein and Asseylum? When that shit hit my screen I actually backtracked and watched it twice because I couldn't believe I just heard something so absurd.

Fucking Eddelrittuo...that little monologue was totally wrong an unnecessary. "oh he never stopped caring for you and wanting what was best for you". Yeah, sure Eddy. That's exactly why Slaine:
- Started a war using her persona.
- Kept her locked up after she woke up
- Prayed she never got her memories back
- Said out loud that she was just a means to an end for his goals
- Locked her up after she disagreed with him and his war

deadoptimist said:


Returning to this very interesting conversation. As, I’ve said the issue with Slaine’s identification is not only very entertaining to analyze, but the fact that it has not been explained in any way creates problems in the writing. The question is seemingly of secondary importance, but the problems are big.

Initially he can, probably, not solve the dilemma and simply go with the flow. It’s not that he has a choice, since he is on a martian space castle with nowhere else to go. He can easily go both ways at this moment.

He is initially a terran and reminded constantly about it. He is not accepted. Instead his difference gives him the only good thing he has – the proximity to the princess. It’s psychologically very easy to identify with the oppressed, add here the idealization of his childhood memories and the wish to escape to a better world.

On the other hand, he doesn’t know much about Earth and has been brought up by martians on Mars. Furthermore, while he is beaten he doesn’t work in a quarry or anything. He is a beaten pet, but a pet of influential and privileged people nevertheless. He sees the bright, the attractive side of the versian society with his beloved princess as the pinnacle. So he may want to be accepted (which is natural for humans) and ascend. Basically, if he had been at least slightly encouraged I’d easily expected to see him the most patriotic Versian ever.

deadoptimist said:

But there’s also the question of his personal inclinations. And in the first season he is as much a weepy uke (pardon me for the usage of fujoshi’s slang) as possible. He doesn’t strike as someone, who can possibly wage war.

I think that his identification should’ve hatched around the time the princess was “killed” first time. He lost his ideal at the top of the Versian society (and I missed the option that he may have waited her to reign to get his heaven home-delivered) and he was facing the very real prospect of shooting in terrans. And killing terrans is the red line in this case, so if he thought himself terran he should’ve tried to defect.
(I ignore the moment where he had to shoot because of the Trilliam's insistance, since he could protest both because he thought them compatriots and because it was his first time.)

deadoptimist said:

The interesting part is that apparently he thinks himself martian, since he doesn’t go down to Deucalion as a defector. You can say that he is on the side the princess is, but she is with terrans at that moment.

deadoptimist said:

Then he meets Saazbaum and is supposedly seduced by the old Saaz’s idea of buiding a new country (after suddenly learning that martians are also people who can die for him). Since Slaine has no place to stay for him dreaming of making one by himself is not so farfetched, though I think this idea comes later. But roughly after this time the infatuation with Asseylum contradicts the new ideas, he is hinted on to possess, and this created the biggest fuck up in his characterization after saving Saazbaum. He should either outgrow love or drop the liberator flag (or being a hypocrite and use on of these things dishonestly – but we should know which).

Basically none of these developments are farfetched. I can think of examples in history for most of them. Like, for example among the sons of Iman Shamil, the leader of Caucasians in their war against Russia in XIX century, some waged war against Russians on Turkish side and some served the Russian Empire. Or I’ve read the memoirs of a Russian count, who sided with the red during the October Revolution and ceded the war funds of the Empire that he controlled to the fledgeling Soviet state.

MetaKite said:
This is why I feel we need more background on Slaine and his relation to the poor people of Vers. Has he even ever really interacted with them? Have other Vers born servants been abused around him? We know he was beaten solely for being Earth born but can he really relate to the Versian poor and disenfranchised? My number one issue with Asseylum is that she says she cares for Vers people most of all but doesn't seem to be aware of their plight and why Vers had been so desperate to attack Earth for resources the last 17 years in story. So even when Slaine wanted better equality, I had to question how much does he even know about those people.

MetaKite said:
Back on topic; Slaine was a pushover and wasn't capable of waging war before but that's changed. He has been waging war since the second cours started even if we don't know how involved he had been the previous 19 months. Since then he has basically mastered the Tharsis and lost any reluctance to kill Terrans soldiers. We saw how this came to be thanks to Saazbuam and maybe a bit of influence from Cruhteo's harsh treatment of him. Before that he never had a reason to fight the Terrans.

MetaKite said:
He almost defected to Earth in episode 7. He had already betrayed Vers and choose to find Asseylum and protect her. Had his encounter with Inaho been different and Inaho answered "We are allies to the princess/Keeping her safe". Slaine would have defected right then and there since he really only wanted to side with whomever wasn't trying to kill her after learning of the Martian conspirators. On a side note, I still maintain that was Inaho's fault and quite out of character for Inaho. Stupid writing there. Slaine was ready to turn his back on Vers up to this point.

MetaKite said:
This is where I have to hate on the show's writing again. I understand he never really sided with Saazbuam but bought into his ideas of what Vers should be like. He also went back to Vers because there simply was no other means to save Asseylum. It seemed to me that he "supported" Saaz as a means to save the princess but his hate of Orange made him an unmistakable enemy of Terrans coupled with the lesson he learned from that one dead soldier ("Your enemies are the ones shooting at you"). But like you said, this all gets turned on it's head because he does everything he knows Asseylum won't like. It's as if he lost confidence in her dreams and decided he's just going to do things his way to make her supposed dream a reality. Even if his actions go against everything. So Slaine had been working on this plan? Only that's not the case at all. He never had a real plan.

MetaKite said:
The plot hole though is killing Saaz to take his rank hadn't even been a factor in Slaine's plan ever. Becoming his son was a shock to Slaine.

MetaKite said:
The term you are looking for is "pushover". Please don't use "uke" in this context as it's wrong and has too many other underlying meanings completely unrelated. I'm actually working on an editorial on fujoshi and how they consistently contribute to "rape culture" (and Slaine will be mentioned but that's another topic) and uke is definitely not the term you want to use here.

deadoptimist said:
Damn, guys. The show has really degraded. It's only Tuesday and there is not enough flame war going on here to last me while I boil the potatoes. I guess, I'll go make a salad...

Darklight0303 said:
That's what you get when you want only an echo chamber in these threads. The hypocrisy of you lot saying that Inaho should have answered when Slaine should have done so from the start. Keep drinking the koolaid with that double standard of yours.

deadoptimist said:


Whoa. We've been fighting with the same arms and methods as your lot, don't push the blame.

Darklight0303 said:
The only Arms you've been fighting with are delusions, wishful thinking and double standards.

deadoptimist said:
I managed to watch some parts... Lost some braincells I think.

Those who insisted that the eye wasn't an AI can go pack now, Inaho speaks to it as to an equal.

I wanna the next season to exist only in one case - it would be centered around the matured Slaine and called "the extermination of my ex".

Raziel1991 said:
But the narrative is truly that simple. The series has shown the martians doing terrible shit like wiping out the population of entire cities (New Orleans in episode 1) and attacking ships with refugees. On top of that the every martian the Deucalion crew has fought so far has been the very definition of a one dimensional villain and like I said before the series does not even spend any screen time to show the horrible situation the lower classes in vers are supposed to be in. Even if his intention themselfs are not evil his actions are without a doubt evil, his impossible utopia is costing the lives millions of terrans. Ends do not justify the means.

deadoptimist said:


You know, unlike you, I contribute things besides senseless bashing of Slaine. Nor do I express hate on personal level towards Inaho.

But it's not that we have different means of interacting, so whatever the outcome we all fight the same way. And you're not too civil yourself to blame others for not acting as though on an aristocratic tea party.

blackbishop said:
Yeah, it seems it is the aldnoah's version of R2D2.

Viktor_Otaku said:


You know for all the talk about the eye eating Inaho up, so far all I am seeing is that Inaho had now got a very personal friend living in his skull who can actually help him where he could not, ie.: Conversations and helping him confess to the princess.

Some detriment that is.

Darklight0303 said:


It's putting great strain on cranial nerves. That's a pretty big detriment that can accumulate.

Viktor_Otaku said:


And the writers aren't showing it, I am not seeing Inaho rolling on the ground yelling in agony.

Darklight0303 said:


You write fanfictions painting over what the show really is. Hell you even admitted to that more or less in this very page.

We don't fight the same way at all. Your group make up excuses and ignore obvious facts to their benefit. That's what you've been doing since day one in this show. You paint what you want the show to be not what it truly is.

Darklight0303 said:


He freaking passed out because of it last episode! In the middle of an enemy base no less. Also here for a list of what could happen if those nerves are damaged continously

http://calder.med.miami.edu/pointis/tbiprov/MEDICINE/sense1.html

http://www.braininjury.com/cranial-nerve-injury.shtml

Viktor_Otaku said:


I don't see why writing fanficts actually means that her opinions aren't good. Optimist agrees that Slaine is also a poor character which she derives from the story (poor story telling, poor character development), all these aer not subjective facts.

You are saying that Slaine is a poor character simply because he is opposing the protagonist and not aligning with your moral pov. That is totally a subjective fact.

Darklight0303 said:


Blaming Slaine's stupidity on poor story telling, poor writing and poor character development IS being subjective.

deadoptimist said:
I see that our interpretations are different in some aspects, which is no wonder seeing how many glaring plotholes and holes in characterization this show has, even in the areas vital for storytelling. I admit, that in filling them up I use the things I want to see – so my sympathy plays part – but at least here, in public discussion, I try to follow the guidelines of the things explicitly said and done. Nevertheless, I understand that our understandings may vary.

deadoptimist said:
The show is terrible at showing people aside from the main cast. Have you noticed that all the unnamed soldiers have the same face? It’s seriously messed up. Normally it’s remedied by making them cover their faces with masks or helmets, so we can assume they are different underneath, but here they don’t bother. That’s dehumanization to the max, and an embarrassing level of it. Not to say that normally designers would create at least a couple of slightly different guys for the positions of notable ground soldiers. It’s a huge failure of the creators team, hands down.

(Btw, I would very much like to see a revolutionary movement of low class Versians. With it’s agent being, say, Harklight. Sorry for a bit of wishful thinking.)

deadoptimist said:

Hm, I was just pointing out that personal qualities of a person may play role in the national identification he accepts. My initial impression of Slaine was that he is a soft, kind-hearted person, too emotional and impressionable for his own good. I don’t mean that people like that can’t grow into strong leaders, but siding with terrans because of the fear of violence was also a possibility I considered.

deadoptimist said:


I expected him to defect, but the interesting moment I want to underline is that he didn’t side with the terrans right from the start as with “his” people, he didn’t simply drop on their demand to share whatever fate with his princess, he didn’t trust them and acted as if he still has a backing. I take it as a possible indication that he is inclined to side with the martians already.

I agree in that Inaho’s unnecessary (and out of character) provocation as the main reason for their falling apart, and also, of course, there’s the issue that the whole scene is so forced and written so badly, that it feels wrong to make any long-term conclusions based on it.

deadoptimist said:

Yeah, it’s all murky from here (well, even murkier), since the reasons for his most radical actions regarding Saaz are not provided. Later he promises a new world also to Harklight, so they return to the possible motivation of following in the Saazbaum’s footsteps, and Slaine seemingly loses all hope for Asseylum’s revival in the roses episode so he wants to start nation building. On the other hand, he says before that episode that he takes the power for the sake of it while he is waiting for Asseylum. So what are his motivation and what’s their balance? This is a terrible mess.

At least it seems that his ideal and that of Asseylum don’t coincide.

Oh, and also his time with Saaz is left offscreen, so we don’t know how much the old count influenced him.

deadoptimist said:

I thought that it was a more or less a development he must’ve been expecting (the surprise of seeing it finally coming doesn’t contradict it), since he must’ve made a deal with Saaz, when he had saved him, but they glossed over it too, so, yeah, who knows.

deadoptimist said:


Fine, though I implied the rapey undertones and the fujo baiting. >< I’ll add the word “pushover” to my active vocabulary – I avoid it, cause I always think it has the opposite meaning looking at the structure.

I would be interesting in your editorial. May I have the link afterwards or the link to where it will be posted? I am interested in the phenomenon too. I've been thinking about catching my psychoanalyst friend, buying her a cake and asking her to comment on some of the female gay manga issues.

Darklight0303 said:
You write fanfictions painting over what the show really is. Hell you even admitted to that more or less in this very page.

We don't fight the same way at all. Your group make up excuses and ignore obvious facts to their benefit. That's what you've been doing since day one in this show. You paint what you want the show to be not what it truly is.

deadoptimist said:


I knew you would latch to my statement, cause it was obviously too complex for you to comprehend.

Frankly, I don't see any point in talking to you, if you plan to drone on the same one or two incorrect statements. And don't talk about fanfiction, you made a lot of wrong predictions yourself. Slaine loosing his cool after the princess confronts it? Slaine breaking down after she leaves? Inaho x Asseylum? The eye not being an AI? Where is all this? You drop the arguments that are inconvenient for you, but there's too much of them lying beneath your feet to not be noticeable for those who visit here often.

And your insistance that you alone have the right of interpretation is annoying. Especially the part where you demand hate towards Slaine to be the only thing discussed on this forum, cause, you know, people have been talking about other things, not partaking in the team Inaho vs team Slaine war for a long time already.
Everybody knows that you hate Slaine. Now, write something new, can you? Or the only alternative is throwing personal insults and gnawing at people, as you gnaw at me now?

Btw, as far as the original reason of this branch goes, I think that there're few people, cause your party is so obnoxious, that you drive people out.

MetaKite said:
So what is this bond he has to Vers other than it's the only home he's ever really known? Yet, this bond can easily be broken because he defied everyone on that ship to contact the Emperor, steal a plane and go find Asseylum. He really had no loyalty to Vers b just Assyelum so nobody else on Vers mattered to him. Again, we never seen him interact with them so I guess we aren't really suppose to care as an audience?

MetaKite said:
He WAS going to defect so easily so I doubt he identifies so much with Vers outside of "he has no place on Earth to go". The princess had found a place on the Deucalion and Slaine would have joined them if it meant being with her. In a sense, Slaine has always considered the Princess as his home. Where he felt he belonged with. So defecting Vers would be an after thought for him and he was never particularly inclined to side with the Martians. Inaho gave him half of that push to side with Vers. The other half was the Vers soldier he spoke to.

deadoptimist said:
Which is where it baffles me since he seemed content being a lackey for Saazbuam so long as the Princess was being kept alive and unharmed. He had fallen in line completely with Saazbuam's plans to conquer Earth and continued it after he killed the guy. So clearly Saaz won him over even if Slaine had his own twist to change Vers social system with it (based on what he told Harklight).

MetaKite said:
Sure. I'll keep you updated as I get further along. Still gathering info and what to crop down. As a lady who likes watching hot guys get it on with each other, it has always bothered me how accepting the fandoms are of rape to the point of justifications of it. I just feel like somebody that likes yaoi HAS to step up and say something against their accepted line of thinking.

MetaKite said:
Also, Harklight is a mystery to me. Who is he? Where did he come from? Why is he so loyal to Slaine to the point he's a super butler? He seems like fujoshi bait too so Slaine has at least one male concubine.

Maledict said:
The facial animations of Asseylum and Eddelrittuo in this episode were really awkward to look at...

Viktor_Otaku said:
The latest one was how he claims that Slaine is to blame for Inaho getting an eye that supposedly eats his mind up, when Inaho had an infinite choice for an alternative after Slaine shot out his right eye.

Darklight0303 said:

The only Arms you've been fighting with are delusions, wishful thinking and double standards.

MetaKite said:
Also, Harklight is a mystery to me. Who is he? Where did he come from? Why is he so loyal to Slaine to the point he's a super butler? He seems like fujoshi bait too so Slaine has at least one male concubine.

deadoptimist said:
Apparently Slaine is to blame for everything, including the ice caps melting.

Savethebestforu said:


Slaine murdered Inaho's parents using a time machine. It is known.

Savethebestforu said:
This is one of the reasons why there is no reason that we are not getting a season 3. Too many characters have been introduced that we practically know nothing about except what we see from the surface. Harklight's motivations in following Slaine so loyally is completely confusing. I guess he did say he was glad that he didn't serve a privileged upper class count, but why would he be happy serving a terran traitor? I dunno.

deadoptimist said:


Not showing or even mentioning the broad scope of events in a show with war setting is so… *sigh*

There’s no room to disagree on the fact that initially the princess was his home. And I agree that the big change for him must’ve happened after he was accepted by Saazbaum. It’s just that I think normally he should’ve started thinking about sides when the war started. Though the events were fast, so maybe he simply didn’t have time.

deadoptimist said:

My attempt to see the events near Tanegashima as the first sign of his loyalty tilting towards martians, or at least him not assuming that he belongs to terrans as a natural state of things is just a variant of interpretation, of course. It’s just from what I see of informational wars, a person who believes himself or herself to belong to an idealized community, that he or she has been separated for, tends to be very trusting towards the said community. And he hasn’t risen the white flag even despite not having anywhere to go back to.

deadoptimist said:

Hm, I am not sure that he was a lackey, to be honest. It’s bad that their interaction on screen is almost inexistent, but it wouldn’t make sense to not broker something from Saaz when the old count was on the verge of death. In any case Saaz is somewhat of a hostage of Slaine as well. He allows Slaine freedom and high social standing despite knowing that Slaine may have other plans for him. I mean, it’s a bit late to play obedient boy after shooting a whole clip into someone. On the other hand, serving Saazbaum doesn’t necessary mean that he shares Saaz’s ideals – he may simply want power.

A lot of unclear things here. Even the tasty detail of whether Slaine really thinks of Saazbaum as a father figure is left out.

deadoptimist said:


Yeah, it’s a pity that such a unique character is so poorly explained. He is the only non-count martian with screentime, he has an interesting design and a story of his own, as it seems. And he must have his reasons to work for Slaine, a hated underdog when Harklight started to work under him. The strangest part is that we don’t see other counts drag around butlers.

He seems a bait, I agree, and a rare case, where I support it, to be honest. -_-'

deadoptimist said:


I am not much of a fan of the genre though I may read the best examples, but I am curious about its workings. I’ve read somewhere in the manga subforum that about 70% of the works contain rape, and one of the partners usually identifies initially as heterosexual. I was surprised, to be honest.

Makaze_no_Moujuu said:

Hopefully Urobutcher doesn't f*** up F/SN.

MetaKite said:
He was confused after Saaz first spoke to him and told him to do whatever he pleased (fight for Vers or flee to earth). Slaine didn't actually side with Vers until that faithful second meeting with Orange when he saved Saazbuam.

MetaKite said:
So there is a huge contradiction in the story with his feelings towards Asseylum. I don't believe it's because he never loved real Asseylum as same claim.

MetaKite said:
More failures of the show with character development. At this point Harklight could prove to really be Slaine's #1 friend and ally for reasons unknown or somebody waiting to stab him in the back at the right time.

MetaKite said:
I know a lot about the genre and it's interesting in comparison what my male gay friends think about how men are portrayed in it and how fujoshi think it's OK (it's not okay). I like to compare that community to people who like things but can't admit the faults within those things. So that's why I'm working on this editorial.

deadoptimist said:
It’s a bit of a tricky moment. I want to say that he could’ve defected after Saazbaum’s offer and didn’t, nut in reality he didn’t have time, and his thoughts on the matter remain unknown. Could he have defected after the battle in ep. 12? It’s a matter open to discussion as well.

deadoptimist said:

Yeah, he is given two motivations (at least two), and the balance between them is not explained at all.
I doubt they’ll make him a betrayer, since the official chart says that he is deeply loyal, but who knows? A pity that he is so underdeveloped as a character, even though he technically has big progression in their world.

In the end it all boils down to bad writing again... There're things that are hard to explain, and there're plotholes that are difficult to cover and which anyone fixes slightly differently. We just can't make him into a coherent constructs at this point.
(And then there're haters, who don't mind all this analysis. ><)

deadoptimist said:
Btw, if Slaine's going down, despite his popularity, I hope he commits a suicide. He was the only one working for the whole two seasons, it's most fitting for him to blow himself out of this writing by himself.

MetaKite said:
No, I seriously don't believe he would defect from Vers anytime after his 2nd confrontation with Inaho and then shooting to kill Inaho. He had decided then and there that "Orange" was his enemy and whatever side Orange was on, he would fight that side (again thanks to the soldier that saved him and died after saying that your enemy is who is shooting at you). His hate (and jealousy) for Inaho is too strong at that point to defect.

MetaKite said:
I completely agree and this is why the show frustrates me. Too many completely idiotic plot points are introduced just to FORCE the conflict yet all the real interesting plot threads are ignored. The character that suffers the most has been Slaine who is verging on cartoon villain area now. Everybody else aren't interesting or completely ignored. I'm fond of Rayet but the story doesn't even need her now along with many others. Even Inaho isn't compelling since he hasn't had any real development in 5 episodes.
Also, whatever happens to Slaine, I just don't want Inaho to be the cause of his downfall.

Savethebestforu said:


This is one of the reasons why there is no reason that we are not getting a season 3. Too many characters have been introduced that we practically know nothing about except what we see from the surface. Harklight's motivations in following Slaine so loyally is completely confusing. I guess he did say he was glad that he didn't serve a privileged upper class count, but why would he be happy serving a terran traitor? I dunno.

Savethebestforu said:


Slaine murdered Inaho's parents using a time machine. It is known.

deadoptimist said:


Apparently Slaine is to blame for everything, including the ice caps melting.

JeffreyZin said:
WHAT KIND OF BIG FUCKED-UP IS THIS?! @@

IS IT SUPPOSED TO MEAN THAT SLAINE TROYARD STILL BE FINAL BOSS AFTER ALL OR HE DOESN'T?! ARE THE WRITERS ARE SMOKING AT THIS POINT?! SMH....

deadoptimist said:
Btw, if Slaine's going down, despite his popularity, I hope he commits a suicide. He was the only one working for the whole two seasons, it's most fitting for him to blow himself out of this writing by himself.

Savethebestforu said:


Slaine murdered Inaho's parents using a time machine. It is known.

Inugirlz said:


Can it be a heroic suicide? If it's heroic it might make Darklight cry.

dwl. This is win.

Jcan2 said:
This will not end well, Now that Asselyum is taking a new husband I bet Slaine is mad as hell. The tension is building up. I was brought to a sniffle though when I saw Emperor Vers in his state, mad me think of my Grandfather when he passed, he was in the same state of mind minus the whole Emperor thing but regardless the feels I had for that moment was High. I wonder will Inaho get the girl in the end, Nah!

Viktor_Otaku said:

#Slainedidnothingwrong