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awditty said: KamiAlice said: She doesn't have amnesia though, she clearly remembers things, she's just fuzzy on the details. She remembered Inaho, the boy she saw the birds with, she just couldn't make out his name. That's not a cliche, it's a real life occurrence after being in a coma. they had a consultant who knows a little physics, or maybe they read "physics for dummies who are writing Anime"; hopefully they consulted on how coma recovery goes; like Soderburg consulted real virologists on "Contagion", and Scott apparently consulted ZERO scientists on "Prometheus". Like there even is 1 correct way that coma recovery goes -_- Coma recovery is entirely different from person to person. |
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KamiAlice said: there were 4 mechs in season 1 containing 12 weeks worth of episodes. there have been a total of 3 mechs introduced (besides Slaines) in now 7 episodes and the tactics have completely changed. But there was little struggle and most of them went down in one ep. Besides Fenianne and maybe Vlad (he attacked them twice, but it was more like one mecha twice beaten in one episode). And there were no losses among the main characters, so it got a bit stale - we knew that nothing would happen. And the enemy mechas disn't use tactics besides their one gimmick at all. It's sad, cause there're good scenarios with hiding enemy, sniper enemy striking from afar, ambush, trap, steath attacks at night, enemy using environment, possibilty of enemies combining power or using their castle so they need to be lured away, problems of getting intel or hiding from enemy surveillance units... Maybe terrans could lose but then return after naking some new tech... |
| Another Historical parallel - the way Slaine is dealing with the opposition within the ranks is VERY akin to how KGB operated - dealing with them covertly, behind the scenes, using the legal machine to fabricate ways to destroy them. It is also the way the current Russia uses their legal machine to deal with opposition and unruly businessmen |
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deadoptimist said: KamiAlice said: there were 4 mechs in season 1 containing 12 weeks worth of episodes. there have been a total of 3 mechs introduced (besides Slaines) in now 7 episodes and the tactics have completely changed. But there was little struggle and most of them went down in one ep. Besides Fenianne and maybe Vlad (he attacked them twice, but it was more like one mecha twice beaten in one episode). And there were no losses among the main characters, so it got a bit stale - we knew that nothing would happen. And the enemy mechas disn't use tactics besides their one gimmick at all. It's sad, cause there're good scenarios with hiding enemy, sniper enemy striking from afar, ambush, trap, steath attacks at night, enemy using environment, possibilty of enemies combining power or using their castle so they need to be lured away, problems of getting intel or hiding from enemy surveillance units... Maybe terrans could lose but then return after naking some new tech... There was a huge struggle with Trilliam and them needing to escape and come back a later episode 2 beat him, and the battle Sausbamm was even worse. Inaho was only able to gain the upper hand until the very end and then Slaine happened. The only battle that was relatively easy was the one with the Ice mech, which served more of the reintroduction of Inaho more than anything else. |
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Dragon_Slayer_X said: deadoptimist said: Because he is a fictional character and it's useless to get personal feelings towards him, and he is created as a sort of a plot tool anyway? Still doesn't explain why someone can't hate an antagonist and like a protagonist against you wishes. You are calling others childish but aren't you the same? I surely don't prohibit it, nor can I, but I do see it as childish - usually small children personally hate villains in child plays, after growing up people tend to learn to appreciate the characters in different roles. So, of course, you can do it, but it's very counterproductive, cause you hate the winter for being cold - something like that. I mean, I can understand if a person dislikes a character for being badly written or even having some of said person's pet peeve traits, but I don't understand a person hating the antagonist solely for opposing the main character if he has motivation for doing so. That's very one-track. |
CookingPriest said: Another Historical parallel - the way Slaine is dealing with the opposition within the ranks is VERY akin to how KGB operated - dealing with them covertly, behind the scenes, using the legal machine to fabricate ways to destroy them. It is also the way the current Russia uses their legal machine to deal with opposition and unruly businessmen That's not exclusive to the KGB though, is it? |
TheGilgamesh said: Give me one reason why characters without 0 personality and background are good characters . Please , only one And this isn`t subjective , it`s an objective observation You do know what Objective is right? It means without your personal feelings, preference, beliefs, ect. It isn't objective, it's entirely subjective. Subjective means entirely based on your own personal preference, feelings, and beliefs. It's entirely based on YOUR OPINION |
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| Slaine sure is ridiculously and randomly evil now. Look at this guy, lying to people and manipulating everyone around him. He's like a generic villain now. Dude was a goody two-shoes in the first season. No subtlety at all here. |
KamiAlice said: There was a huge struggle with Trilliam and them needing to escape and come back a later episode 2 beat him, and the battle Sausbamm was even worse. Inaho was only able to gain the upper hand until the very end and then Slaine happened. The only battle that was relatively easy was the one with the Ice mech, which served more of the reintroduction of Inaho more than anything else. Trilliam was the only impressive foe, like the first episodes were the best written... Still I think that my point about the battles going on in a very similar way and no real danger for any of the main characters most of the time is valid. Personally I wouldn't say that the battle with Dioscuria seemed tense, to be honest. Saazbaum fell in one episode (after facing Inaho), he was marching straight at him and he was effectively defeated by Inaho alone. The second battle with Vlad wasn't very long or scary. And I can't say that they really struggled with Mazuurek (they disabled him in one shot after a bit of thinking - the only deviation was Inaho not going to them right away). The laser guy fell comparatively easy too. I mean it was the same - one episode, Inaho's leading, no casualties among the main cast, no tactics on the side of the martian. The difference being maybe two gimmicks among the count and his whole castle. |
| This episode seemed to confirm Slaine as final villain. The contrast shown in the scene where he was crying over the princess calling him by his name and at the same time humans dying like flies as a result of his orders was quite something. It reminded of that scene in season 1 where Inaho and the princess were watching sea gulls, while Slaine was getting tortured. Only difference is back then Slaine was a likeable retard, not a retarded douchbag. |
| 5 main aspects I base my ratings on: 1. Did DramaEnthusiast make a thread about it? 2. Is it better than Breaking Bad? 3. Did MellowJello recommend the shit out of it? 4. Has it caused a (very entertaining) shitstorm on MAL? 5. Is it actually good? Scratch the fifth point, it's not very relevant... |
skudoops said: Dragon_Slayer_X said: To go against the Princess or the royal family, they would need some major co-operation between themselves. What will happen if the Princess directly orders some of the other counts to attack them or apprehend them? The Royal family's or the Princess's influence is the Main factor here and Slaine has that card in his hand. I get that, I just thought it was weird she was threatening them with the activation factor. But then again the show hasn't really expanded on how it really works, when the princess got shot it turned off remotely, yet every other time it needed to be physically turned off. I already mentioned this to you. There are 2 ways to deactivate Aldnoah well 3 kind of 1. Death/Near death or brain death of the original activator. The princess being in a coma deactivates anything she activated/ death of the counts deactivate there landing castles. Falling asleep does not deactivate the drive. 2. Deactivation by a person of Royal blood/ This means all rights are removed from the person who activated the drive and would require the rights to be reinstated by the person of royal blood before the person could reactivate the drive. 3. A person can deactivate there own drives, but we are unsure if they can reactivate them completely on their own. The captured martian didn't deactivate his Landing Castle but he did say he lost his Kataphrat, although that could have been because he escaped and didn't want to go look for it. |
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| slaine .... slaine .... slaine .... slaine .... slaine .... slai- STFU |
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fst said: That's not exclusive to the KGB though, is it? Of course it is. He has already stated that there is exactly one source of evil in the world - and it is my country. No other places where intrugues in the government have ever happened. |
deadoptimist said: KamiAlice said: There was a huge struggle with Trilliam and them needing to escape and come back a later episode 2 beat him, and the battle Sausbamm was even worse. Inaho was only able to gain the upper hand until the very end and then Slaine happened. The only battle that was relatively easy was the one with the Ice mech, which served more of the reintroduction of Inaho more than anything else. Trilliam was the only impressive foe, like the first episodes were the best written... Still I think that my point about the battles going on in a very similar way and no real danger for any of the main characters most of the time is valid. Personally I wouldn't say that the battle with Dioscuria seemed tense, to be honest. Saazbaum fell in one episode (after facing Inaho), he was marching straight at him and he was effectively defeated by Inaho alone. The second battle with Vlad wasn't very long or scary. And I can't say that they really struggled with Mazuurek (they disabled him in one shot after a bit of thinking - the only deviation was Inaho not going to them right away). The laser guy fell comparatively easy too. I mean it was the same - one episode, Inaho's leading, no casualties among the main cast, no tactics on the side of the martian. The difference being maybe two gimmicks among the count and his whole castle. It's also the fact that Inaho's plans always go off without a hitch, even though actually executing them is far from trivial. If they stumbled more along the way, that would have worked a lot better. As for plot armor... the series is just too short. 24 episodes isn't enough to have a large enough cast of fleshed out characters that you can get away with killing a few of them without just crippling yourself story wise. It's either nobody important dies, or the people who die are killed before their character is able to leave any sort of impact. |
ABeautifulTable said: But if she said Inaho 15x, you would've rejoiced right?slaine .... slaine .... slaine .... slaine .... slaine .... slai- STFU |
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skudoops said: I'm only referring to whether they need to be in physical contact with the drive or not. There does, that's why the princess had to go into the control room in sausbamms castle to deactivate it. Which lead to her being shot. Still since many martians are loyal to the princess, Slaine now has the right to order them to attack anyone who opposes him. Meaning that they'll just gang up on anyone who doesn't follow his orders. The big thing is he now can make those orders because the princess said people should follow his words as her own. To betray him is to betray the princess. |
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skudoops said: deadoptimist said: Trilliam was the only impressive foe, like the first episodes were the best written... I actually felt he was one of the worst, his mech and its ability were at odds with each other. But he seemed threatening and he almost got them. I mean, he killed one of the schoolkids, pilots and Rayet's dad, all of them had to cooperate to disable him and even then only Asseylum saved them. He chased them for two episodes. And it was still fresh. So, while he was not the most complex person (I don't mean that, of course, though his role as a mole could be developped), but Nicoleras seemed frightening and alien. |
KamiAlice said: skudoops said: I'm only referring to whether they need to be in physical contact with the drive or not. There does, that's why the princess had to go into the control room in sausbamms castle to deactivate it. Which lead to her being shot. Still since many martians are loyal to the princess, Slaine now has the right to order them to attack anyone who opposes him. Meaning that they'll just gang up on anyone who doesn't follow his orders. The big thing is he now can make those orders because the princess said people should follow his words as her own. To betray him is to betray the princess. That power lasts only as long as the truth stays in the shadows though |
deadoptimist said: fst said: That's not exclusive to the KGB though, is it? Of course it is. He has already stated that there is exactly one source of evil in the world - and it is my country. No other places where intrugues in the government have ever happened. my mistake, I should have known better. |
| All I know is that Slaine is so screwed once the two princesses find out what he's been planning behind their backs... |
 Thanks, person who gave me this on another site a long time ago, lol. |
TheGilgamesh said: KamiAlice said: You do know what Objective is right? It means without your personal feelings, preference, beliefs, ect. It isn't objective, it's entirely subjective. Subjective means entirely based on your own personal preference, feelings, and beliefs. It's entirely based on YOUR OPINION A character that is boring and hasn`t got any type of personality is a bad character , this is a obviously reality Still being subjective |
| so wait, is Slaine gonna have a threesome or what? |
fst said: As for plot armor... the series is just too short. 24 episodes isn't enough to have a large enough cast of fleshed out characters that you can get away with killing a few of them without just crippling yourself story wise. It's either nobody important dies, or the people who die are killed before their character is able to leave any sort of impact. Hm, I think they have a surplus to kill off. They could've easily killed any if the cast at the Trident base - Calm or the twintails girl. The doctor is not terribly necessary as well as the Darzana's assistant. Or they could show us someone talking to the main guys in the canteen and agreeing to drink together or something and then killed or wounded. fst said: deadoptimist said: Of course it is. He has already stated that there is exactly one source of evil in the world - and it is my country. No other places where intrugues in the government have ever happened. my mistake, I should have known better. Yeah.( But then if you are called a villain all the time, what's there to loose? *sigh* Why don't you people think about the danger of this line of thought?.. |
fst said: so wait, is Slaine gonna have a threesome or what? Well yea bro, him, Lemrina disguised as Asseylum, and the REAL Asseylum, all at once. Shhhhhhh, shhhhhhhhhhhh... just let it happen. |
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fst said: so wait, is Slaine gonna have a threesome or what? Not likely |
deadoptimist said: fst said: As for plot armor... the series is just too short. 24 episodes isn't enough to have a large enough cast of fleshed out characters that you can get away with killing a few of them without just crippling yourself story wise. It's either nobody important dies, or the people who die are killed before their character is able to leave any sort of impact. Hm, I think they have a surplus to kill off. They could've easily killed any if the cast at the Trident base - Calm or the twintails girl. The doctor is not terribly necessary as well as the Darzana's assistant. Or they could show us someone talking to the main guys in the canteen and agreeing to drink together or something and then killed or wounded. Doctor is necessary for exposition dumping Twintails girl is necessary because she has tits As for everybody else, the fact that you're saying they're "not terribly necessary" and could be killed off indicates that their death would have little impact and people will complain that they just did it for the shock value. ANGRY2011 said: fst said: so wait, is Slaine gonna have a threesome or what? Well yea bro, him, Lemrina disguised as Asseylum, and the REAL Asseylum, all at once. Shhhhhhh, shhhhhhhhhhhh... just let it happen. WUT But then... That's just too much Asseylum. Don't you understand? That's too much ASS for one man to handle! |
ANGRY2011 said: fst said: so wait, is Slaine gonna have a threesome or what? Well yea bro, him, Lemrina disguised as Asseylum, and the REAL Asseylum, all at once. Shhhhhhh, shhhhhhhhhhhh... just let it happen. I think he should at least have Lemrina while ha can and produce some aldnoah-gifted offsprings. It is necessary anyway to ensure the lineage. Hate and guilt fuelled sex with disabled Lemrina disguised as Asseylum would be deliciously kinky. *er, I am getting carried off* fst said: As for everybody else, the fact that you're saying they're "not terribly necessary" and could be killed off indicates that their death would have little impact and people will complain that they just did it for the shock value. Not if it will have impact on the main cast - Inaho, Inko, Marito. fst said: Twintails girl is necessary because she has tits Ah, sorry. But do they even show them? |
deadoptimist said: ANGRY2011 said: Well yea bro, him, Lemrina disguised as Asseylum, and the REAL Asseylum, all at once. Shhhhhhh, shhhhhhhhhhhh... just let it happen. I think he should at least have Lemrina while ha can and produce some aldnoah-gifted offsprings. It is necessary anyway to ensure the lineage. Hate and guilt fuelled sex with disabled Lemrina disguised as Asseylum would be deliciously kinky. *er, I am getting carried off* Lol, I have to admit, I didn't even think of it from the "aldnoah-gifted offspring" angle. Actually though, I don't want to see Slaine do anything underhanded to Lemrina anymore. I don't like it. |
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TheGilgamesh said: A character that is boring and hasn`t got any type of personality is a bad character , this is a obviously reality Not it's not obvious reality. Here i'll put it simple I DISAGREE WITH YOU. I just shattered what you called obvious, I just disputed your reality, therefore you are not being objective. It's your opinion, your opinion isn't a fact. You don't decide what I like or dislike, therefore you can't say it's obvious. |
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fst said: so wait, is Slaine gonna have a threesome or what? Inaho Will 8D Both princesses team up and run away to Inaho. Slaine slits his wrists. |
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