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Feb 3, 2015 8:14 AM

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hentai_eucli said:
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Honestly, I wouldn't recommend, I still regret that Wednesday night, at least I watched it with a bunch of people on a stream so it wasn't *that* bad.

>implying Boku no Pico is bad
It was pretty bad for my sexual orientation.
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I didn't realize Ergo Proxy was made in '06, it looks fantastic and most people say a noticeable bump in visual quality came in '07. I have a feeling I'm going to go on Sci-fi binge now and then be sad because they aren't making any good Sci-fi series anymore.
Feb 3, 2015 8:17 AM

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Feaor said:
I didn't realize Ergo Proxy was made in '06, it looks fantastic and most people say a noticeable bump in visual quality came in '07. I have a feeling I'm going to go on Sci-fi binge now and then be sad because they aren't making any good Sci-fi series anymore.

Do you even Gundam
Feb 3, 2015 8:18 AM

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Mustang_Roy said:
hentai_eucli said:
>implying Boku no Pico is bad


Essentially it's child porn, so it's bad.

Child porn is god tier. Pls

Also you seem to be unaware that loli hentai is a thing
I don't understand why people cause a shitstorm about boku no pico
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>implying Boku no Pico is bad
It was pretty bad for my sexual orientation.

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Feb 3, 2015 8:18 AM

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Feaor said:
I didn't realize Ergo Proxy was made in '06, it looks fantastic and most people say a noticeable bump in visual quality came in '07. I have a feeling I'm going to go on Sci-fi binge now and then be sad because they aren't making any good Sci-fi series anymore.
Mostly because most stuff prior to '06 was still in 4:3.
Feb 3, 2015 8:18 AM

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Do you even Gundam
I was going to add the addendum outside of mecha but I figured people would understand what I meant.
Feb 3, 2015 8:19 AM

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Why is Pico's butt so bubbly?
Feb 3, 2015 8:20 AM

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Talking about Ergo Proxy looking good for a '06 anime, Texhnolyze looks pretty damn timeless for a '03 show too. It's probably thanks to Madhouse being the studio.
Feb 3, 2015 8:20 AM

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KokkoStar said:
Why is Pico's butt so bubbly?

Do you even shota
Feb 3, 2015 8:21 AM

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hentai_eucli said:
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Why is Pico's butt so bubbly?

Do you even shota

No. Do you?
Feb 3, 2015 8:22 AM

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KokkoStar said:
hentai_eucli said:

Do you even shota

No. Do you?

yes I do, thank you for asking
Feb 3, 2015 8:22 AM

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cupc said:
Talking about Ergo Proxy looking good for a '06 anime, Texhnolyze looks pretty damn timeless for a '03 show too. It's probably thanks to Madhouse being the studio.
I'm probably going to finish Tex after Ergo Proxy, it does look pretty great as well.
Feb 3, 2015 8:23 AM

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cupc said:
Talking about Ergo Proxy looking good for a '06 anime, Texhnolyze looks pretty damn timeless for a '03 show too. It's probably thanks to Madhouse being the studio.
Madhouse is great, their shows age really well for the most part.
Feb 3, 2015 8:23 AM

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Also, Ckan, I know this is really really reaaally random. Sorry if it is random >.<

I'd really like to know what's your favorite arc from the Kingdom manga and if you think Pierrot can handle the Collation Arc as good as the manga did.
Also do you think it's obscure/underrated as a manga?

Excuse me pls if these questions are random :/
There's no need to apologise.

Off the top of my head, it'd have to be the Coalition arc. It had everything, and just tops it all in every way.
If we can narrow down to specific moments my absolute top would have to be
I think that part was as good as Kingdom gets with that sort of thing, but Coalition really wins in every way for its quantity and everything.

I wish I could say I have confidence in Pierrot given their soilid job with S1&2, but the Coalition arc is just so vast, it'd be difficult to do it justice even if they put their full effort behind it - it'd be such a demanding adaptation to get the intensity right. Especially with S2 cutting down on the CGI - i'm not sure if that was purely a stylistic thing or a budget one, but if they stick with that trend, the battles would surely suffer.

As a manga, I'm not sure whether it's obscure. Underrated is also a dodgy term, but I think it's held in proper esteem by those that read it. I believe it's quite popular in Japan and its neighbours (china), so I don't think it's underrated overall, but in the western audience, it's definitely under the radar, unfortunately. It really does do battle shounen quite literally and wonderfully, so I'm sure it could win a bigger readership if it had the chance.

I think that was everything.
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Feaor said:
I didn't realize Ergo Proxy was made in '06, it looks fantastic and most people say a noticeable bump in visual quality came in '07. I have a feeling I'm going to go on Sci-fi binge now and then be sad because they aren't making any good Sci-fi series anymore.

GitS SAC looks godlike for a 2002-2003 anime.
Feb 3, 2015 8:27 AM

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Mustang_Roy said:
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Am I the only one who wants to watch an anime with god tier animation but only focuses on random fights?

I want a fight, fite me.


Example?


Somethin' like Bleach or Yozakura Quartet. I just one godly animated fights, and a lot of them.

Someone said HxH 2011 had 'em but urmm....

top kek.
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Feaor said:
KokkoStar said:
Do you even Gundam
I was going to add the addendum outside of mecha but I figured people would understand what I meant.
The actual Gundam shows aren't even really SF in my mind. The O'Neill colonies are about as SF as it gets outside of the realistic portrayals of things in F91 and maybe CCA. Unicorn at parts too.
But not really Sci-fi proper.


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Feaor said:
I didn't realize Ergo Proxy was made in '06, it looks fantastic and most people say a noticeable bump in visual quality came in '07. I have a feeling I'm going to go on Sci-fi binge now and then be sad because they aren't making any good Sci-fi series anymore.

GitS SAC looks godlike for a 2002-2003 anime.
This is pretty awkward talk though. When exactly are you guys thinking that anime started looking 'good' then?
Feb 3, 2015 8:28 AM

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Z3r-0 said:
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Example?


Somethin' like Bleach or Yozakura Quartet. I just one godly animated fights, and a lot of them.

Someone said HxH 2011 had 'em but urmm....

top kek.

Why would you kek about hxh 2011 ?
I don't get it
Feb 3, 2015 8:29 AM

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Bleach's fights aren't exactly "well animated" for the most part, y'know. If you meant "high quality", that is.
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hentai_eucli said:
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Somethin' like Bleach or Yozakura Quartet. I just one godly animated fights, and a lot of them.

Someone said HxH 2011 had 'em but urmm....

top kek.

Why hxh 2011, top kek?
I don't get it


I didn't find the animation to be great and sometimes repetitive, and 148 episodes (re-watching, though I did take a years break when watching it) is a hassle.

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Bleach's fights aren't exactly "well animated" for the most part, y'know.


I meant the manga on that part*. It's at least well drawn on that part.
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hentai_eucli said:
Why would wou kek about hxh 2011 ?
I don't get it
Well for starters, HxH doesn't even have that many fights for a battle shounen until the CA arc.
Feb 3, 2015 8:30 AM

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Ckan said:
Bleach's fights aren't exactly "well animated" for the most part, y'know.If you meant "high quality", that is.

They are relatively fast paced, so maybe thats what he means?
Feb 3, 2015 8:31 AM

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Ckan said:
This is pretty awkward talk though. When exactly are you guys thinking that anime started looking 'good' then?


I guess we're talking of the anime roughly after the transition to digital animation. That would be like '98-'01 or something.

You can't really compare hand-drawn and digital animation for they are very different techniques in the end, but Texhnolyze being very early digital animation, holds very well to the anime of today.
Feb 3, 2015 8:32 AM

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hentai_eucli said:
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Bleach's fights aren't exactly "well animated" for the most part, y'know.If you meant "high quality", that is.

They are relatively fast paced, so maybe thats what he means?


Or this.
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Feb 3, 2015 8:33 AM

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Z3r-0 said:
Mustang_Roy said:


Example?


Somethin' like Bleach or Yozakura Quartet. I just one godly animated fights, and a lot of them.

Someone said HxH 2011 had 'em but urmm....

top kek.
Watch Fate/kaleid.
Black Bullet's fights were pretty good too.
Feb 3, 2015 8:33 AM

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The Aria series is getting a Bluray release and a new anime!

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2015/02/03-1/blu-ray-set-and-new-anime-to-celebrate-10th-anniversary-of-aria-anime

Welp, time to catch up with the series then.

Wait, I think I was late with the news. Lol
Feb 3, 2015 8:33 AM

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Ckan said:
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GitS SAC looks godlike for a 2002-2003 anime.
This is pretty awkward talk though. When exactly are you guys thinking that anime started looking 'good' then?

What do you mean by awkward? To me, I don't have a line from where anime started looking good. I'd say 2006-2007, but Claymore looks like poop and GitS SAC, just checked, almost looks like it's made today despite being a madafaking 2003 anime.
Feb 3, 2015 8:34 AM

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robis798 said:
Well, I might check Aria since its sequel was announced. Some day. I'll probably just rewatch Mushishi.


I see you`re planning to watch Aria in the future but listen what i have to say.

Watch it in 1 episode per day because the pacing is Super SLOW.
If you try to marathon then you`ll be disappointed and it will ruined your experience by watching it.

Aria is the best SOL out there but the pacing is way slower than Mushi-shi.
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I'll wait for the Blu-Ray then.

God, i'm so happy for this. Aria is such a great series.
Feb 3, 2015 8:35 AM

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Ckan said:
This is pretty awkward talk though. When exactly are you guys thinking that anime started looking 'good' then?
I mean there have always been series that have looked good for the most part, I've just heard from people that '07 on wards the average visual quality started to get higher. That may or may not be true though. Certainly the cel to digital transition was a jump as digital is cleaner and higher fidelity.
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Z3r-0 said:
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They are relatively fast paced, so maybe thats what he means?


Or this.

attack on titan
Feb 3, 2015 8:36 AM

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This is awesome I was planning to buy the dvds. Now I'll just wait for the blurays
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Zeta986 said:
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Well, I might check Aria since its sequel was announced. Some day. I'll probably just rewatch Mushishi.


I see you`re planning to watch Aria in the future but listen what i have to say.

Watch it in 1 episode per day because the pacing is Super SLOW.
If you try to marathon then you`ll be disappointed and it will ruined your experience by watching it.

Aria is the best SOL out there but the pacing is way slower than Mushi-shi.

I'll see. If it's really that slow, I most likely won't watch more than 1 or 2 eps. But if it's really interesting, like Mushishi, I don't see a reason why I couldn't watch more, especially if I want to.
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hentai_eucli said:
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Uhh did you read the manga/LN for the others?

Ain't nobody got time for dat
Then you can't disagree. I highlighted the key sentences in the quote.
Feb 3, 2015 8:37 AM

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cupc said:
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This is pretty awkward talk though. When exactly are you guys thinking that anime started looking 'good' then?


I guess we're talking of the anime roughly after the transition to digital animation. That would be like '98-'01 or something.

You can't really compare hand-drawn and digital animation for they are very different techniques in the end, but Texhnolyze being very early digital animation, holds very well to the anime of today.
The techniques aren't that different though? Digital cuts out some of labour and makes editing far less a chore, but hand-drawing is still essential to the process. I'm not that familiar with the differences here, but why can't you compare them if not at least based purely off appearance? isn't that what you're doing anyway?
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Ckan said:
This is pretty awkward talk though. When exactly are you guys thinking that anime started looking 'good' then?
From what I've watched I'd divide it into ∞~2006, 2006~2010, 2010~now, though I haven't watched much old anime at all so there'd be another period before 2006.
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Z3r-0 said:
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They are relatively fast paced, so maybe thats what he means?

Or this.
I'd be careful with that. A lot of Bleach's fights have a lot of downtime and exposition, at least in the anime.
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StrayBotato said:
hentai_eucli said:

Ain't nobody got time for dat
Then you can't disagree. I highlighted the key sentences in the quote.

Ooops, sorry, I didn't notice that, my bad
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hentai_eucli said:
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Or this.

attack on titan


I have seen bb Eucli.
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Ckan said:
cupc said:


I guess we're talking of the anime roughly after the transition to digital animation. That would be like '98-'01 or something.

You can't really compare hand-drawn and digital animation for they are very different techniques in the end, but Texhnolyze being very early digital animation, holds very well to the anime of today.
The techniques aren't that different though? Digital cuts out some of labour and makes editing far less a chore, but hand-drawing is still essential to the process. I'm not that familiar with the differences here, but why can't you compare them if not at least based purely off appearance? isn't that what you're doing anyway?


I worded it badly, the techniques themselves aren't that different, but drawing by hand requires so much more effort generally that I don't think you can compare the post transition era anime to older hand drawn anime and outright say they look better than old anime.

Comparing older digital animation to newer digital animation is pretty easy tho
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I might finally watch Ghost In a Shell, heard that has Godly Animation.
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Ckan said:


robis798 said:

GitS SAC looks godlike for a 2002-2003 anime.
This is pretty awkward talk though. When exactly are you guys thinking that anime started looking 'good' then?
Well just to ass something to the conversation, i think the early 2000's had a bizarrely weird drop in qualit in terms of animation and general look. im not sure what it is but i feel like theres alot of really washed out and ugly looking shows, i guess its cause this was when everyone had fully made the jump to full on digital coloring and everything but i feel like it wasnt until about maybe 2005 and up or so that things started looking less ugly. That said there are still some gems from that animation wise such as FMA or GITS

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

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About this animation talk.

Year 1995 to 2000 is the Era of 10/10 Perfect Animation.
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Feaor said:
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Why would wou kek about hxh 2011 ?
I don't get it
Well for starters, HxH doesn't even have that many fights for a battle shounen until the CA arc.


Well, HxH isn't known for its fights, but for the way it handles its characters and their interaction and development.

I'd say it's more of a character-oriented shonen than a battle action one.
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robis798 said:
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This is pretty awkward talk though. When exactly are you guys thinking that anime started looking 'good' then?

What do you mean by awkward? To me, I don't have a line from where anime started looking good. I'd say 2006-2007, but Claymore looks like poop and GitS SAC, just checked, almost looks like it's made today despite being a madafaking 2003 anime.

I don't think age has as much a limitation as you're saying. Sure, if we stretch back to the 70s and early 80s, most anime looked pretty primitive, but that doesn't stop it from being high-quality if the work is put in.

If you look at modern anime, a large amount looks plike 'poop'. Backgrounding and colourin is easier now, so that's an advantage with digital, but 'poor' looking anime is still common, unless you're using some other barameter for 'good looking' such as artstyles, or video quality.
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Feaor said:
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This is pretty awkward talk though. When exactly are you guys thinking that anime started looking 'good' then?
I mean there have always been series that have looked good for the most part, I've just heard from people that '07 on wards the average visual quality started to get higher. That may or may not be true though. Certainly the cel to digital transition was a jump as digital is cleaner and higher fidelity.

I think it could be right that maybe around '06-07+ with anime booming, seemingly to its peak, there may have been an unusual amount of 'good looking' shows thanks to a build up of experience, funding, and labour. But part of that is also the huge amount of quantity of shows from that era. At least half of those shows from that time probably look like ass, and the ones that don't, as always, aren't actually all that animation intensive - sakuga is everything.

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Ckan said:
The techniques aren't that different though? Digital cuts out some of labour and makes editing far less a chore, but hand-drawing is still essential to the process. I'm not that familiar with the differences here, but why can't you compare them if not at least based purely off appearance? isn't that what you're doing anyway?


I worded it badly, the techniques themselves aren't that different, but drawing by hand requires so much more effort generally that I don't think you can compare the post transition era anime to older hand drawn anime and outright say they look better than old anime.

Comparing older digital animation to newer digital animation is pretty easy tho
I think I follow where you're coming from, but I'm not sure why you're saying we can't compare older hand-drawn with contemporary anime.
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Animation of an anime should be judged by the standards of when it came out.

Evangelion's animation may not look good during this day and age, but it definitely was great during its time.
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Gintama' had some great animation scenes. Sunrise can sure do it when they want to.
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All I remember from NGE's animation, how many stills were there, and how long they lasted >.>
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"It's like I'm turning into Mokkun's dick!"

Boku no Pico wasn't even that bad.
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