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Jan 25, 2015 9:22 AM

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seujair31 said:
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I think it is fine and all to make speculations and connections between characters but you refer to it as if everything has a cookie cutter formula which I just don't think is the case. There is a lot that hasn't been fleshed out of Harklight. We haven't seen how much he does maybe you are right and he is exactly like those characters but we will have to wait till we know more about the guy.

I see that your slinging around super robot but I see super robots as robots that have zero logical reasoning behind their functioning. As we have seen with all the Aldnoah mechs they have all been abiding by scientific laws and theories which Inaho has been able to abuse. Yes they are Powerful machines but by no means do I see them as what most Super Robots have been. When they tear a hole in the dimension and travel through it or conjure some magic fire where there should be none or god forbid use the power of love then I will see them as super robots.


only predict the future, you know what you want will happen, does not make a fair fight, no reasoning of Pilo, strategies or simply your super robot predicts the monvimentos of others, does not require reasoning, and pilo skills, which is one of the main characteristics of a mecha pilot.
When Kira came first entered into a gumdam, he struggled with the controls, and committed several errors, since Slaine in episode 12 simply enters a super-robot, and go out riding like a pro


Kira struggled with the controls? Mate he rewrote the entire system so he can pilot it easier.

And I don't think Slaine piloted a kata before but we was pretty skillful in the sky carrier (even though like every time he went out in it he got one of his wings shot xD)

And if you mean Slaine riding like a pro in episode 12 is him dodging the shots from the terrans then you already know that's the Tharsis power.
Jan 25, 2015 9:27 AM

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Knight-Artorias said:
seujair31 said:


only predict the future, you know what you want will happen, does not make a fair fight, no reasoning of Pilo, strategies or simply your super robot predicts the monvimentos of others, does not require reasoning, and pilo skills, which is one of the main characteristics of a mecha pilot.
When Kira came first entered into a gumdam, he struggled with the controls, and committed several errors, since Slaine in episode 12 simply enters a super-robot, and go out riding like a pro


Kira struggled with the controls? Mate he rewrote the entire system so he can pilot it easier.

And I don't think Slaine piloted a kata before but we was pretty skillful in the sky carrier (even though like every time he went out in it he got one of his wings shot xD)

And if you mean Slaine riding like a pro in episode 12 is him dodging the shots from the terrans then you already know that's the Tharsis power.


About Kira, I speak of the scene when the school is being attacked, he had difficulty seeing the controls,
on the carrier, she did not use the aldnoah factor was a more basic system, plus the minimum expected is that he had difficulty in how to fly, something new, how people change a car with manual gear for a car with automatic gear, the first time everyone has a bit of trouble
Jan 25, 2015 9:32 AM

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seujair31 said:
Knight-Artorias said:


Kira struggled with the controls? Mate he rewrote the entire system so he can pilot it easier.

And I don't think Slaine piloted a kata before but we was pretty skillful in the sky carrier (even though like every time he went out in it he got one of his wings shot xD)

And if you mean Slaine riding like a pro in episode 12 is him dodging the shots from the terrans then you already know that's the Tharsis power.


About Kira, I speak of the scene when the school is being attacked, he had difficulty seeing the controls,
on the carrier, she did not use the aldnoah factor was a more basic system, plus the minimum expected is that he had difficulty in how to fly, something new, how people change a car with manual gear for a car with automatic gear, the first time everyone has a bit of trouble


Kira had difficulty seeing controls cause the system was pure shit so he rewrote it.
I don't really get what you mean by having more difficulty with the Tharsis it looks like flying a carrier is harder since it has stuff to use inside the cockpit, the mars kata just have the place where you put your hands on to active aldnoah, so god knows how they even do all the crazy shit they do.
Jan 25, 2015 9:34 AM

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Good episode, many surprises in this series.
Jan 25, 2015 9:55 AM

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Knight-Artorias said:
seujair31 said:


About Kira, I speak of the scene when the school is being attacked, he had difficulty seeing the controls,
on the carrier, she did not use the aldnoah factor was a more basic system, plus the minimum expected is that he had difficulty in how to fly, something new, how people change a car with manual gear for a car with automatic gear, the first time everyone has a bit of trouble


Kira had difficulty seeing controls cause the system was pure shit so he rewrote it.
I don't really get what you mean by having more difficulty with the Tharsis it looks like flying a carrier is harder since it has stuff to use inside the cockpit, the mars kata just have the place where you put your hands on to active aldnoah, so god knows how they even do all the crazy shit they do.


Good for its reasoning, which is so put his hand, he does it all, if a stone has the power aldnoah, so she flies out easily.

About Aldnoah powers of Slaine, I have the theory that was
Lemrina that gave him the first season, simple you remember when Saazbaum rescued Slaine of Cruhteo, he was taken to a room, to treat his wounds, Lemrina should already be in Saazbaum castle, and she must have passed the Aldnoah fact to Slaine, while unconscious, so he could activate Tharssis, so let Saazbaum Slaine in front of Tharssis and asked which side he would choose, Saazbaum already knew Slaine could activate Tharsis.
As we have seen kissing is the fact provissorio activation, and the first episode was well highlighted the word blood, which means the permanent factor aldnoah activation, so Deucalion continues on, and Slaine lost if activating factor, and you had to Lemrina give again.
Jan 25, 2015 9:56 AM

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Inaho's playing chess like a boss! XD

LOL, Slaine is now Saazbaum's son...

Awwww, tsundere Rayet :3

Inaho to the rescue as always XD

Yeah... RIP Saazbaum... LOL... Count Slaine Saazbaum Troyard XD...
"Let justice be done, though the heavens fall."
Jan 25, 2015 10:17 AM

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I accept Slaine hate but honestly it is starting to become unreasonable. "Harklight made the calculations, not Slaine" I fail to understand how this argument proves a flaw in the character.
I understand that each to their own taste and beliefs but I feel this case turning to "love to hate on him".
Jan 25, 2015 10:36 AM

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can we stop using gundam seed and CG as reference whenever we compare AZ to a mecha anime?

Use actually good mecha animes such as all the UC gundam shows.


WE have a decent Char, but for one he is not in Zeon as Zeon is bunch of nazi and soviet tropes put together right now, with Kamille(who never grew out of the emo mode he was in first half) deciding to lead them.
Jan 25, 2015 10:50 AM

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ihateuimeanit said:
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I accept Slaine hate but honestly it is starting to become unreasonable. "Harklight made the calculations, not Slaine" I fail to understand how this argument proves a flaw in the character.
I understand that each to their own taste and beliefs but I feel this case turning to "love to hate on him".


You haven't been here for too long huh? The Inaho Fanboys will do anything to praise Inaho even if it means undermining another character's progression, they're basically delusional bunch and the pathetic thing is that they don't realize it because they have a lot of members.



Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo had training, Kelly Slater, Michael Jordan, all of them were already phenomena in his youth, and desbancaram, more esperientes guys.
Get real you is one of those fangirls had orgasm torture scene with
Jan 25, 2015 10:58 AM
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ihateuimeanit said:
TooFy said:
I accept Slaine hate but honestly it is starting to become unreasonable. "Harklight made the calculations, not Slaine" I fail to understand how this argument proves a flaw in the character.
I understand that each to their own taste and beliefs but I feel this case turning to "love to hate on him".


You haven't been here for too long huh? The Inaho Fanboys will do anything to praise Inaho even if it means undermining another character's progression, they're basically delusional bunch and the pathetic thing is that they don't realize it because they have a lot of members.

It doesn't matter whose plan it was or who did the calculations. The plan never would've worked. He wouldn't have killed Inaho that way. The only thing he could manage was to killsteal Salsa.
Jan 25, 2015 11:05 AM
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ihateuimeanit said:

It's only because of Inko.

You are probably as stupid as slaine. I guess it's a requirement to unironically like him. I mean how shit of a plan must you have if it was thwarted by Inko of all people?

Also do you even realise that if saazbaum hadn't engaged Inaho, he wouldn't have lost his thrusters and wouldve dodged the bullets anyways? If Slaine's magnificent plan required inaho to lose his thrusters, then couldn't he have just shot him normally instead of slingshotting around an entire planet.

Try using your brain next time if you wish to reply.
Jan 25, 2015 11:07 AM

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ihateuimeanit said:
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It doesn't matter whose plan it was or who did the calculations. The plan never would've worked. He wouldn't have killed Inaho that way. The only thing he could manage was to killsteal Salsa.


"Thanks Inko, you saved me, if it weren't for you, I would've been skewered by those bullets" - Inaho Episode 3 of Aldnoah Zero Season 2

It's only because of Inko.

And here, you're attacking a character's progression and achievement just so that you can find reasoning to hate him, for once can't Inaho fanboys actually applaud Slaine's growing progression? Tell me, why can't you all? Why are you all so blinded to your ideals?

And furthermore, you just ... ahahahaha ... showed me an example of my reasoning. "The Inaho Fanboys will do anything to praise Inaho even if it means undermining another character's progression" towards your whole quote :)

Thank you!


Aren't you doing the exact same thing? I saw 7 posts from you in the past 5 minutes where all you are doing is praising Slaine by bashing Inaho.

Most people have said Slaine had progression, but don't forget if sausbam wasn't there Inaho wouldn't need Inko to save him. He had already picked up on the bullets and it was sausbamm that damaged him to where he had to get away with Inko's help.

Without sausbamm there the battle would have been a stalemate. It still was a stalemate but it worked in slaines favor due to sausbamm's interference.
Jan 25, 2015 11:13 AM

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ihateuimeanit said:
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Aren't you doing the exact same thing? I saw 7 posts from you in the past 5 minutes where all you are doing is praising Slaine by bashing Inaho.

Most people have said Slaine had progression, but don't forget if sausbam wasn't there Inaho wouldn't need Inko to save him. He had already picked up on the bullets and it was sausbamm that damaged him to where he had to get away with Inko's help.

Without sausbamm there the battle would have been a stalemate. It still was a stalemate but it worked in slaines favor due to sausbamm's interference.


Nah I'm not attacking Inahoe, I'm attacking his fangirls. And yes, thanks for stating the obvious fact, don't you know? I'm Slaine sama's #1 fan, but I don't ride his **** and know of his bad character traits.

Notice, "get away with Inko's help" to which I was trying to say the whole time, sigh.


Calling him Inahoe is an insult. So try another excuse.
Jan 25, 2015 11:16 AM

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seujair31 said:
ihateuimeanit said:


You haven't been here for too long huh? The Inaho Fanboys will do anything to praise Inaho even if it means undermining another character's progression, they're basically delusional bunch and the pathetic thing is that they don't realize it because they have a lot of members.



Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo had training, Kelly Slater, Michael Jordan, all of them were already phenomena in his youth, and desbancaram, more esperientes guys.
Get real you is one of those fangirls had orgasm torture scene with


And I'm glad I haven't if this is what most consider a valid argument; personal attack.
I'm sorry to have taken your valuable time. You win the argument and the internet. I'll quietly go now to fuah fuah over stupid Slaine torture scene because I'm stupid.
Jan 25, 2015 11:16 AM
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ihateuimeanit said:

Notice, "get away with Inko's help" to which I was trying to say the whole time, sigh.

That's a pathetic excuse. Did slaine really come up with his master plan under the assumption that no one could possible interfere with it? Stop trying to justify a halfassed plan. The only one stupid enough to fall for it was Salsa cause he trusted Slaine.
Jan 25, 2015 11:23 AM

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ihateuimeanit said:

Nah I'm not attacking Inahoe, I'm attacking his fangirls. And yes, thanks for stating the obvious fact, don't you know? I'm Slaine sama's #1 fan, but I don't ride his **** and know of his bad character traits.

Notice, "get away with Inko's help" to which I was trying to say the whole time, sigh.

You did though, calling him Inahoe... in 7 different posts, is an attack on the character. Plus attacking his "fanboys" is a logical fallacy.

I'm just saying that while Slaine did pull it off, it was only because of sausbamm himself, just like Inko was needed to save Inaho, Sausbamm needed to be there to hurt Inaho in the first place.
If anything Inko got some progression because of this, very little but it's still something.
Jan 25, 2015 11:24 AM

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ihateuimeanit said:
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Calling him Inahoe is an insult. So try another excuse.


Uhh.. Did I hurt your feelings? Sorry sorry, I'm gonna go apologize to Inahoe-sama then :-)


No please continue. Demonstrate how much of a worthless hypocrite you are
Jan 25, 2015 11:28 AM

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ihateuimeanit said:
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No please continue. Demonstrate how much of a worthless hypocrite you are


You haven't made a single post worthy enough to argue enough, whatever. Tis' time to leave the forum till the next episode anyways.


Oh yes typical of you. Get called out on your bullshit and you run away. A real jester of the forums
Jan 25, 2015 11:32 AM
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ihateuimeanit said:
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That's a pathetic excuse. Did slaine really come up with his master plan under the assumption that no one could possible interfere with it? Stop trying to justify a halfassed plan. The only one stupid enough to fall for it was Salsa cause he trusted Slaine.


Did you not watch the episode? Even Inaho admitted that he would've been hit, if it weren't for Inko's help, that or simply it's dangerous.

And yes, the "interference" could've been wind as previously beed said in the episode, I ask you again, did you watch the show? Or did you watch it in the intention of looking forward for Slaine's fallacy? There's a difference you see because the result will vary.

I did, perhaps you should watch it as well. This time probably with your brain turned on. Inaho wouldn't have sacrified his thrusters if saazbaum hadn't showed up. With his thrusters he couldve dodged the bullet. Inaho was in trouble only because he was without his thrusters. So Slaine's plan required Inaho to be crippled. So if that were the case, then why the hell couldn't Slaine just directly shoot him? Was there any logical reason to have him slingshot his bullets around the earth?

There is just so many things that were just wrong with his plan, it was hilariously stupid.
Jan 25, 2015 11:36 AM

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ihateuimeanit said:
No, I have a life to go to. I spend a few hours every week trying to argue with people but fails to do so because I only encounter users like you who are so blinded to Inahoe's ****.

I'm not running away, beside which argument am I running away from? Kindly point it out so that I can respond to it, thanks.


The fact that you don't insult Inaho yet you call him Inahoe every opportunity you get. SOmething which you admitted with your very own attitude. That is what you're running from
Jan 25, 2015 11:37 AM

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ihateuimeanit said:
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You did though, calling him Inahoe... in 7 different posts, is an attack on the character. Plus attacking his "fanboys" is a logical fallacy.

I'm just saying that while Slaine did pull it off, it was only because of sausbamm himself, just like Inko was needed to save Inaho, Sausbamm needed to be there to hurt Inaho in the first place.
If anything Inko got some progression because of this, very little but it's still something.


Kamialice, please don't be blinded cause of Inaho.

Slaine planned it all along, to "someday" avenge Asseylum and further takes the place as a "Count", that's why a lot of people applauded Slaine.

And Inko? Oh shoot, you're a goner, you just fell to their place, I thought you were actually the unbias Inaho fanboy/girl who is very fun to argue against :/

Except i'm not an Inaho fanboy, I've stated in multiple occasions that I like both Slaine and Inaho. You really don't pay attention to what is said to you do you?
Jan 25, 2015 11:37 AM

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Finally it made sense of him to let the count live... Just shows how garbage he is, really well played, not seen an anime like this for a real long while.
Jan 25, 2015 11:42 AM
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ihateuimeanit said:
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Except i'm not an Inaho fanboy, I've stated in multiple occasions that I like both Slaine and Inaho. You really don't pay attention to what is said to you do you?


Yet most of the time you're always onto Slaine, as if he's some kind of character to always poke fun of when in fact Inahoe is worst of a character.


You were complaining about my spelling. You can't even frame grammatically correct sentences.
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ihateuimeanit said:
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Except i'm not an Inaho fanboy, I've stated in multiple occasions that I like both Slaine and Inaho. You really don't pay attention to what is said to you do you?


Yet most of the time you're always onto Slaine, as if he's some kind of character to always poke fun of when in fact Inahoe is worst of a character.


Geee maybe because, could it be, HE FREAKIN DESERVES IT?
Jan 25, 2015 11:44 AM

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ihateuimeanit said:

Yet most of the time you're always onto Slaine, as if he's some kind of character to always poke fun of when in fact Inahoe is worst of a character.

When the hell did I ever poke fun at Slaine?
Jan 25, 2015 11:52 AM

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When the hell did I ever poke fun at Slaine?


Must I? If I can, I could try to quote all your posts how Slaine isn't the "good" character to Inahoe but to this day I'm too lazy nor do I have the time.

Feel free to label me as the loser to this argument but I already know of you, but others should know that you're not as unbias as you think if they look closely to your post especially how you edit it afterwards.

When exactly did I post that? Quote it, give me proof. Or are you making things up?
Edit: I edit because I don't like spelling and grammar errors in my posts.
Jan 25, 2015 11:56 AM
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ihateuimeanit said:
disillusioning

You don't even know what that word means do you?
Jan 25, 2015 11:58 AM
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ihateuimeanit said:
And this marks my last post to this thread, keep disillusioning yourselves Inahoe Fanboys but ... whatever, we'll just see when the show progresses.


It's easy to see who is the rabid and delusional fanboy/fangirl when someone's posts are literally personal attacks or petty insults.

Jan 25, 2015 12:08 PM

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Oops broke my promise but I've had fun doing a gundam seed moment, 1 versus 4 and who knows who won?


:-)

Slaine-sama > Inahoeeeee sama ...

I hope senpai didn't see me not behaving again ~

You're only digging a deeper grave for yourself
Jan 25, 2015 12:11 PM

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ihateuimeanit said:


Must I? If I can, I could try to quote all your posts how Slaine isn't the "good" character to Inahoe but to this day I'm too lazy nor do I have the time.

Feel free to label me as the loser to this argument but I already know of you, but others should know that you're not as unbias as you think if they look closely to your post especially how you edit it afterwards.

When exactly did I post that? Quote it, give me proof. Or are you making things up?
Edit: I edit because I don't like spelling and grammar errors in my posts.

ihateuimeanit
Both characters are good, why bitching? The MC is supposed to be badass or everyone else(earthlings) are pretty much screwed... The only other option would be having a harem MC throwing cheesy lines with Kirito voice, no one probably wants that. Slaine is supposed to be the hated antagonist, at it's pretty well working for him unless they do a cliche redemption shit. It won't work trying to go against the show nature, it's not about who is better, both are necessary...
Jan 25, 2015 12:21 PM

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Man, the soundtrack is as good as ever. It actually made me go back playing Hawken.
Anyway it was an ok episode. I thought for a second that Inko might die when she rushed to try to save Inaho.
Jan 25, 2015 12:39 PM

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Ep was good except Count still is a shit pilot even with the most overpowered thing,srsly wtf?
Oh and also the "using unused brain parts" WTF?

Slaine's on fire,the plans coming together boys!

Can somebody explain to me why the superior tech army is getting owned by a bunch of pleb machines?
I swear i didnt see 1 terran mech drop.

Inaho is becoming more relevant to the viewer now,finally.
Jan 25, 2015 1:19 PM

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Slaine is just doing the most right now.

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Jan 25, 2015 1:27 PM
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Waiting for some spinzaku kick. Oh wait...
Jan 25, 2015 1:49 PM
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can we stop using gundam seed and CG as reference whenever we compare AZ to a mecha anime?

Use actually good mecha animes such as all the UC gundam shows.


*brat* *brats* shots fired!
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Jan 25, 2015 1:59 PM

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I can already see what's going to happen.
Slaine is going to marry the princess when she wakes up and become the new emperor of Verse.
Jan 25, 2015 2:10 PM

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I can already see what's going to happen.
Slaine is going to marry the princess when she wakes up and become the new emperor of Verse.


Question is which princess and will it be willingly on her part
Jan 25, 2015 2:11 PM

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I can't believe people actually like characters on this show.
Jan 25, 2015 2:12 PM

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Is Inaho the main protagonist? Or is it Slaine?

Not sure atm.
Jan 25, 2015 2:15 PM
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I would really appreciate it if you answered my question and did not try to go off topic. But anyway to answer your questions, since you somehow can not answer mine, here are a few.
Luckily MAL insert links to discussions:

This anime is just a complete headache. Inaho is the toe of guy where you could probably sh**on his foot and he'll be alright with it. I don't mind stoic characters, but he's as cold as a brick.

Although I've watched all the episodes, I truly don't even understand it. Did Inaho receive training to work a mecha? Why is it that he's so overpowered and no reason has been given as to why.

Slaines alright, but I have no care for the rest of the characters, whom have had no real development.

In all, this show is just a big yawn.
Read more at http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1233869&show=140#ZrYrHTV1jwtOVHIR.99

hat ending was great. So much win. Such a good series.

I personally love Slain. He was a well developed and highly dynamic character. Very interesting seeing his broad array of emotions and how he reacted to the various twists in the series. More than anything, he felt very real.

Ino was shit. Everyone around him was made out to be an idiot just to show how intelligent he was. He had nearly no substance and the story would have moved along fine with nearly any other stock character filling his role. His victories were PIS anyway. The first one was pretty cool, afterwards though? Bullshit.

I find it hilarious people hating on Slain at the end. He made one semi-poor decision in the heat of the moment. It was honestly understandable too. He saved the one man who showed him any kindness from the one who had betrayed him earlier on. That is called Karma. Had Inoha not shot him down earlier on than everything would have played out differently.

It's not like Slain expected his actions to immediately get the princess killed. He suffered for it, but he isn't evil or an idiot. Far from it, he was the most honorable and loyal/upright character in the series and his one man fight in a war where both sides are his enemy was what kept me interested. His fight wasn't as flashy as Ino's but it had more significance. He was one man, doing what he could against all the odds and it just didn't pan out. It doesn't make him any less heroic.

In the end, Ino pulled a gun on him. Slain did the right thing to put him down. Hopefully he really died. I don't see Slain as a villain and I wouldn't be surprised if he takes up the role as primary protagonist now.

It will be interesting to see how he develops after bringing about his own destruction.

As for the romance in the series: There was hardly any. Ino might have liked the Princess. Princess showed nothing beyond friendship. Slain obviously loved her though. Tragic and legit end.

The main villain was a boss too. Too bad he got trolled. I still can't believe he lost. That was the biggest ass-pull in the entire series.
Read more at http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1251701&show=180#hidYve8HdMwWz49v.99


Last I checked the best character (Slaine) was winning. Y'all some weaksauce viewers. Inaho is worst MC in recent times and thoroughly and utterly boring to watch. Just an absurdly efficient Gary Stu that sucks out any and all tension this show might have offered.

Slaine is the only character on this show that knows what the word sacrifice even means. He goes through hell and back to get to his girl, only to arrive just as she gets gunned down. Sacrifice and pain, that's what this dude knows more than anyone else on the show.

What was Inaho doing while Slaine was saving their asses, getting tortured and looking for the princess? Predictably, Inaho was busy gathering his own little harem and taking the fun out of every fight by winning with seemingly little to no difficulty even though he had never seen combat before the Martians evaded. Terrible. Inaho is a terrible character and I strongly suspect the writer and fans of his character are projecting their own narcissistic fantasies.
Read more at http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1251701&show=160#qxexaHcKYAAxlF50.99

Hopefully by now your getting the general gist. Here's a link to the main page for the A/Z first season forum discussions, so you can read more, if you want: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?animeid=22729 .

As for post counts I am not going to do that, it requires more work than necessary, however if you feel so vested in interest you are more than welcome to make one yourself.

You are more than welcome to not respect me, after all 'free speech' right? But if you feel that ridiculing is necessary, as you are doing with a 'certain someone' apparently, don't waste my time. After all you want a good discussion, right?


Full of research, respect for that for the time but if a person without bias look towards season 1 and season 2, one can really tell the amount of slaine bashing especially after the ending of season 1.

I completely disagree, if one without bias were to look at Season 1 and 2 they'd be able to tell that there was equal amounts of bashing for both Slaine and Inaho. Basically my argument is steaming from people trying to make it out to be that the slaine fans, are somehow some oppressed minority group when they have bashed Inaho, as much as Slaine has been bashed.

I also do not think you understand what everyone is saying, it's fine if you like Slaine, but stooping down to petty insults and ridicule because someone does not like Slaine is nothing more than behaviour of an undeducated bigot and hypocrite. No, Aldnoah Zero is not Gundam, I love Gundam to death, and even I recognize that. As a matter of fact, I am happy that A/Z is not Gundam, because it is interesting to see a different perspective on the Mecha anime genre. It always does not have to have some overtly emotional, Shakespearean Hamlet-style main character, who is only in the position that he is in because he got lucky and found some prototype mech. Effectively, by making Slaine a main protagonist character, and somehow replacing him, like all of you Slaine fans wanted during season 1, and I have linked and exemplified quotes that have said that, we would basically make this series Gundam: A/Z .

Also, I took the liberty of reading some of your past posts, and it appears that a 'good discussion' for you is one where you can bash Inaho, and people who like him as much as you want and nobody can bash Slaine or anyone you like. Classic. But then, if I remember correctly were you not in the forums for the first seasons basically facilitating your 'good, fun, discussion', just as you have done now?

Finally, I am not putting a tl;dr section for this post, if you are too lazy to read it in its entirety, you will miss out...I digress.
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Slaine has nothing on any Gundam MC lol.
Even the worst gundam MC ever Shinn is more interesting than Slaine.
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Is Inaho the main protagonist? Or is it Slaine?

Not sure atm.


Ei Aoki's been quoted as calling them 'dual protagonists', but I'm sure people here will argue that to high heaven.
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I see "Inaho vs Slaine" war is alive and kicking. People sure get passionate over an anime they don't even like.



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Every character in this show is retarded.

And I've yet to see proper justification for why Inaho and Slaine are so fucking good at piloting when their character backgrounds suggest they should be anything but.
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Every character in this show is retarded.

And I've yet to see proper justification for why Inaho and Slaine are so fucking good at piloting when their character backgrounds suggest they should be anything but.

Fair point for Inaho I guess but Slaine isn't really good at piloting.
His mecha can just see into the future.
ANd he spent 19 months using it so he's decent now.
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Inaho had a fair amount of training in piloting didn't he? And he's just intellectual and knowledgeable so that might have aided in his skills piloting.

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SleepingEntity said:
Every character in this show is retarded.

And I've yet to see proper justification for why Inaho and Slaine are so fucking good at piloting when their character backgrounds suggest they should be anything but.

Fair point for Inaho I guess but Slaine isn't really good at piloting.
His mecha can just see into the future.
ANd he spent 19 months using it so he's decent now.

Yes, teenagers training for 19 months are much more skilled than proper soldiers who have probably trained for at least 5 years (especially given the whole Heaven's Fall fiasco). Plot armour at its finest. Fuck you, Aldnoah Zero.

You know what? To help my poor brain when watching the remainder of this series, I'm now going to change Inaho and Slaine's backgrounds to elite ace pilots who were secretly conscripted as child-soldiers. Yeah, that should help.
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ZetaNewtype said:

Fair point for Inaho I guess but Slaine isn't really good at piloting.
His mecha can just see into the future.
ANd he spent 19 months using it so he's decent now.

Yes, teenagers training for 19 months are much more skilled than proper soldiers who have probably trained for at least 5 years (especially given the whole Heaven's Fall fiasco). Plot armour at its finest. Fuck you, Aldnoah Zero.

You know what? To help my poor brain when watching the remainder of this series, I'm now going to change Inaho and Slaine's backgrounds to elite ace pilots who were secretly conscripted as child-soldiers. Yeah, that should help.

Do you even watch this show?

Slaine isn't betterthan proper soldiers, he just pilot the Tharsis a SUPER ROBOT that can see into the fucking future.

Also yea terrible point since EVERY mecha show has teenagers piloting mechas better than adults.

Every gundam show.

Code geass.

Evangelion.
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ZetaNewtype said:

Fair point for Inaho I guess but Slaine isn't really good at piloting.
His mecha can just see into the future.
ANd he spent 19 months using it so he's decent now.

Yes, teenagers training for 19 months are much more skilled than proper soldiers who have probably trained for at least 5 years (especially given the whole Heaven's Fall fiasco). Plot armour at its finest. Fuck you, Aldnoah Zero.

You know what? To help my poor brain when watching the remainder of this series, I'm now going to change Inaho and Slaine's backgrounds to elite ace pilots who were secretly conscripted as child-soldiers. Yeah, that should help.

I was going to retort by saying that the UEF teenagers went to a military secondary school, so they are very knowledgeable about piloting mechs. Since they must have been doing it for years.

But you raise a good point, what is the mech genres obsession with teenage pilots, why no adults?
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SleepingEntity said:

Yes, teenagers training for 19 months are much more skilled than proper soldiers who have probably trained for at least 5 years (especially given the whole Heaven's Fall fiasco). Plot armour at its finest. Fuck you, Aldnoah Zero.

You know what? To help my poor brain when watching the remainder of this series, I'm now going to change Inaho and Slaine's backgrounds to elite ace pilots who were secretly conscripted as child-soldiers. Yeah, that should help.

Do you even watch this show?

Slaine isn't betterthan proper soldiers, he just pilot the Tharsis a SUPER ROBOT that can see into the fucking future.

Also yea terrible point since EVERY mecha show has teenagers piloting mechas better than adults.

Every gundam show.

Code geass.

Evangelion.

Okay let's do this.

Firstly, I really hate to compliment Slaine, given what a shit character he is, but his actions and demeanour from the previous two episodes clearly show he is confident and skilled at piloting, regardless of the Tharsis' abilities. The Tharsis gives him the vision, but he is clearly able to execute the required manoeuvers to dodge and return fire. I mean, yeah, maybe the Tharsis has autopilot and does everything for him, but from his posture and expression, it certainly seems like he is still required to pilot the damn thing and it is taking a certain amount of concentration. So no, having an OP mech does not turn a shitty pilot into a good one. (Or maybe in the Aldnoah universe it does, I don't even fucking know anymore at this point.)

And secondly, not really. Yes, of course the protagonist has to survive and do some cool shit and that usually involves beating trained adults. But my point is Aldnoah takes it to the fucking extreme. 90% of the time in Aldnoah, NO ONE achieves ANYTHING until Inaho arrives. It's fucking stupid. Can we see some Terrans using trained manoeuvers to outnumber and destroy a few Martian ships? It's like everyone who isn't a main character is literally a target just standing there firing blanks. I'm not saying "Adults MUST be better than kids at piloting", because that's not necessarily true. I'm saying this one kid can't possibly be better than every single other soldier we've seen so far. Who the fuck is he, Mecha-Jesus?

Gundam Unicorn would be a really good example. Banagher in his Unicorn mech is OP as fuck, sure, but other mobile suits, even cannon fodder ones, actually get kills and pilot like they're human, not an NPC target.
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