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Dec 20, 2014 2:40 PM

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Boring episode. Too much romantic scenes between Shirou and Rin, which I honestly don't care about. The last three minutes or so where Archer schooled Shirou made it worth it, though.

Thanks, person who gave me this on another site a long time ago, lol.
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mira-lala said:
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Well, yeah, Fate's rather necessary as an introduction. Saying it's the most important though... Let's not get into that.


It is tho. Like what CP said, you need Fate to see Shirou's growth in UBW. You need Fate to see the 180 in HF. HF is not needed to understand Fate, UBW is not needed to understand Fate. It's the only route that can act as a standalone. See, some Fate stuff has been incorporated into UBW because there's no Fate route to tell the new viewers. The other routes won't work AT ALL without Fate. It's like how the VN wouldn't work without Rin.

Well, yeah, I do consider the end of a journey more important than the beginning, but I see where you're coming from. Fate's the one route you can easily understand without background information from elsewhere. I wonder how much of Fate's role Zero accomplishes, though.
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Dec 20, 2014 2:41 PM

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Myahaha.



No, I'm not contradicting, it's a simple fact~
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Dec 20, 2014 2:42 PM

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StrayBotato said:
mira-lala said:


It is tho. Like what CP said, you need Fate to see Shirou's growth in UBW. You need Fate to see the 180 in HF. HF is not needed to understand Fate, UBW is not needed to understand Fate. It's the only route that can act as a standalone. See, some Fate stuff has been incorporated into UBW because there's no Fate route to tell the new viewers. The other routes won't work AT ALL without Fate. It's like how the VN wouldn't work without Rin.
And this is why Mira-chan is my favorite Saber fangirl on MAL :)


Mira-chan is not entirely delusional. Only 50% of the time.
Dec 20, 2014 2:42 PM

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ijuka said:
mira-lala said:


It is tho. Like what CP said, you need Fate to see Shirou's growth in UBW. You need Fate to see the 180 in HF. HF is not needed to understand Fate, UBW is not needed to understand Fate. It's the only route that can act as a standalone. See, some Fate stuff has been incorporated into UBW because there's no Fate route to tell the new viewers. The other routes won't work AT ALL without Fate. It's like how the VN wouldn't work without Rin.

Well, yeah, I do consider the end of a journey more important than the beginning, but I see where you're coming from. Fate's the one route you can easily understand without background information from elsewhere. I wonder how much of Fate's role Zero accomplishes, though.


It accomplishes introducing the HGW, and that's it. It can't help understand Shirou's psychology like Fate did.


Glad to know we came to an understanding, aibo.
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Dec 20, 2014 2:43 PM

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chickenonthepan said:
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And this is why Mira-chan is my favorite Saber fangirl on MAL :)


Mira-chan is not entirely delusional. Only 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999998% of the time.


Fixed.
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Dec 20, 2014 2:43 PM

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mira-lala said:
Myahaha.



No, I'm not contradicting, it's a simple fact~
But I didn't say that..

I meant to say that you understand all routes are important, and that Rin is second most important character.
Dec 20, 2014 2:45 PM

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ijuka said:
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Fate Shirou in the VN is still annoying but better than in Deenpoisoned stuffs. What I'd do, is skim through most of the Fate part of the VN while slowing down for some interesting-seeming explanation scenes and such... But if you already know the outline of what's going to happen, it's going to be a complete pain to read through it and I know I wouldn't be able to. But you should at least skim through it.

You know how i feel,
the excitment is just not there, ya know?
it feels like it will be a pain in the ass.
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i will consider it, but i still but UBW and HF are, as i said, more important.

now, let me return to Kara no Kyoukai,
which apparently, i started with the wrong movie (2nd), since someone told me to watch in chronological order and not release order, but after some research it seems i should have started with movie 1 first.
Now to watch movie 1 :D


Who the F*CK told you to watch it in chronological order, cause if i see him i will tear him apart ! i mean is movie 1 movie 2 etc... are not enough obvious ?!

Like every other people telling to watch Fate in Bullcrap chronological order...

lol they should wait for the HF movie to come then try to watch the two series simultaneously day by day in parralelle timeline and it will true crhonoligally watching...

i would like my brother to stay alive thank you very much xD
i will watch the first next then recap 2 then 3,4,5, etc...
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StrayBotato said:
mira-lala said:
Myahaha.



No, I'm not contradicting, it's a simple fact~
But I didn't say that..

I meant to say that you understand all routes are important, and that Rin is second most important character.


*Isn't even the second most in her own route bruh
Dec 20, 2014 2:51 PM

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LitzSabr said:
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But I didn't say that..

I meant to say that you understand all routes are important, and that Rin is second most important character.


*Isn't even the second most in her own route bruh
Kinda weird, when her story is split into two routes. Well, it's certainly true, that Rin is never the first or second most important character in any of the three routes, but I'd still consider her the second most important character in FSN overall, right behind Shirou.
Dec 20, 2014 2:55 PM
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No, it wasn't part of the VN, it was created by another person. That should be obvious given how much better it is than this show so far.

Really, let me ask you this honestly: Does this show even compare to Fate/Zero? Do you really think it was made by the same person?


THIS show alone? Yes, it's not better. F/Z (LN) length and style makes it way easier to be adapted into anime.

Character-wise, zero uses few but “strong” conversations in order to portray its characters and their Development. On the other hand F/Sn (VN) Uses many conversations and monologues that add together in order to maximize the impact at the rights moments. Also there are many details about the story that are lost without monologues so that doesn’t help either.

Part of the impact of this anime relies on the Fate route, so without a proper adaptation the experience won’t be the best.
Dec 20, 2014 2:58 PM
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Why are we still doing this here lol. You'll scare off all the people who want to talk about the episode.
Dec 20, 2014 2:59 PM

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mickdrew_99 said:
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Too much battle shounen talk from Shirou. Needs more shit to blow up


I recommend the UBW movie then.

Just in case, the movie is very bad, rushed,etc don't watch it.
Dec 20, 2014 3:00 PM

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Rin leaves me speechless, she like dominates everyone lol. Queen Rin
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Dec 20, 2014 3:02 PM

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GreenSnow said:
TrueKireiPriest said:


No, it wasn't part of the VN, it was created by another person. That should be obvious given how much better it is than this show so far.

Really, let me ask you this honestly: Does this show even compare to Fate/Zero? Do you really think it was made by the same person?


THIS show alone? Yes, it's not better. F/Z (LN) length and style makes it way easier to be adapted into anime.

Character-wise, zero uses few but “strong” conversations in order to portray its characters and their Development. On the other hand F/Sn (VN) Uses many conversations and monologues that add together in order to maximize the impact at the rights moments. Also there are many details about the story that are lost without monologues so that doesn’t help either.

Part of the impact of this anime relies on the Fate route, so without a proper adaptation the experience won’t be the best.

I agree, but I'd still say that we should wait until the anime is finished.
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Dec 20, 2014 3:03 PM

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Episode quite calm, showed the approach of Shirou and Rin and how the interaction between them is evolving

Also been a beautiful dialogue between Archer and Shirou in the end, I think knowing the plot I'm enjoying more the anime

Just another episode this season, I expect a great end to this anime that is already among the best in the year ..
Dec 20, 2014 3:10 PM
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11 Episodes in and yet to be impressed.
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caperock said:
11 Episodes in and yet be impressed.


Do you mean "yet to be impressed"?

Cause your post could be praising or bashing the show and I can't tell which one.
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Dec 20, 2014 3:16 PM

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mickdrew_99 said:
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11 Episodes in and yet be impressed.


Do you mean "yet to be impressed"?

Cause your post could be praising or bashing the show and I can't tell which one.
yet to be, judging from previous posts.

Well, perhaps next episode will. Depends on how much caperock cares about the characters. If he doesn't find them interesting, the cliffhanger won't impress him, either.
Dec 20, 2014 3:17 PM
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caperock said:
11 Episodes in and yet to be impressed.


What are you waiting for? The second coming of Evangelion?
Dec 20, 2014 3:20 PM

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WrongPriest said:
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11 Episodes in and yet to be impressed.


What are you waiting for? The second coming of Evangelion?
Except FSN is better than EVA.
Dec 20, 2014 3:21 PM

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caperock said:
11 Episodes in and yet to be impressed.


This mongrel most likely finds true yuetsu not in the suffering of others, but in the suffering of his own self. To trudge through 11 episodes of something that one bestows a rating of 5/10 onto, one must certainly derive pleasure from such a thing.
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WrongPriest said:
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11 Episodes in and yet to be impressed.


What are you waiting for? The second coming of Evangelion?


To be honest, no idea at this point.

Also, it it just me or is the OST pretty forgettable and uninspired?
I still have few Yuki Kajiura OSTs from F/Z on my MP3.
Dec 20, 2014 3:22 PM
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caperock said:
11 Episodes in and yet to be impressed.
maybe you should drop it.
Dec 20, 2014 3:23 PM
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StrayBotato said:
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What are you waiting for? The second coming of Evangelion?
Except FSN is better than EVA.




Jokes, I have too many feels for you to fight.
Dec 20, 2014 3:24 PM

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caperock said:
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What are you waiting for? The second coming of Evangelion?


To be honest, no idea at this point.

Also, it it just me or is the OST pretty forgettable and uninspired?
I still have few Yuki Kajiura OSTs from F/Z on my MP3.
Disagreed. There are quite a lot of tracks I like very much. It fits Fukasawa's style from his other works like Mahoyo. Rin and Archer's themes are probably my favorites.
Dec 20, 2014 3:25 PM
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caperock said:
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What are you waiting for? The second coming of Evangelion?


To be honest, no idea at this point.

Also, it it just me or is the OST pretty forgettable and uninspired?
I still have few Yuki Kajiura OSTs from F/Z on my MP3.


Forgettable might be the word for it, can't hear much I'd bother remembering the name of, maybe I have to get used to them. Although I did like that one from the Prologue and of-course Archers theme.

That's just me though.
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ZeroDragon said:
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11 Episodes in and yet to be impressed.


This mongrel most likely finds true yuetsu not in the suffering of others, but in the suffering of his own self. To trudge through 11 episodes of something that one bestows a rating of 5/10 onto, one must certainly derive pleasure from such a thing.


Sounds like your kind of guy, Zero :P

WrongPriest said:
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Except FSN is better than EVA.




Jokes, I have too many feels for you to fight.


lmao dat pic XD
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Dec 20, 2014 3:27 PM

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i liked every single track so far. Berserker's theme Archer's theme and Rin's theme are my favorites so far.
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Jokes, I have too many feels for you to fight.


lmao dat pic XD


I made it and posted it in General but they were too busy fighting to notice it!

Was hurt deeply, but thank you mike.
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caperock said:
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What are you waiting for? The second coming of Evangelion?


To be honest, no idea at this point.

Also, it it just me or is the OST pretty forgettable and uninspired?
I still have few Yuki Kajiura OSTs from F/Z on my MP3.

Yup. There's been a few nice tracks, apart from that it's just lackluster. Even Grisaia no Kajitsu(a terrible adaptation) uses the original VN OST and hence it's very, very good, practically all the time.

Generally, I love anime and game and VN OST's, but I might get like... one track(the one used when Archer Caladbolgs Caster) and listen to it once and that's it. Very disappointing to put it mildly. It's pretty sad considering how many amazing tracks Mahoyo had, or even F/Z which IMO has one of the best OSTs ever.
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Dec 20, 2014 3:29 PM

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i liked every single track so far. Berserker's theme Archer's theme and Rin's theme are my favorites so far.
Well, to be honest, you can't get much wrong with エミヤ, but it's still a nice arrangement.
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StrayBotato said:
WrongPriest said:


What are you waiting for? The second coming of Evangelion?
Except FSN is better than EVA.



Nope.
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CapsuleCore said:
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i liked every single track so far. Berserker's theme Archer's theme and Rin's theme are my favorites so far.
Well, to be honest, you can't get much wrong with エミヤ, but it's still a nice arrangement.


Pretty much, they could play it on a Mandolin and we'd still shoot rainbows out of all orifices.
Dec 20, 2014 3:34 PM

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WrongPriest said:

Was hurt deeply, but thank you mike.
:/


jks ^^
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CapsuleCore said:
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i liked every single track so far. Berserker's theme Archer's theme and Rin's theme are my favorites so far.
Well, to be honest, you can't get much wrong with エミヤ, but it's still a nice arrangement.


I love the slow version.
Just imagine what the fast version will be like
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Except FSN is better than EVA.

Was hurt deeply, but thank you mike.

Dec 20, 2014 3:40 PM
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^ Hahahahaha Suck it mike
Dec 20, 2014 3:43 PM

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If you're gonna fail, fail in style :P
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Dec 20, 2014 4:41 PM

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Lol I was going to complain about stretching my screen, until I read the epicness of that image.
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Dec 20, 2014 4:50 PM

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''Nor known to passing Grade''
LOOOOOOOOOL
Dec 20, 2014 5:02 PM

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Aomine voice-san awesome as usual.

But way, way too much food, man.
"There's no shame in falling down... true shame is to not stand up again!"

"Aah? Of course I won't miss!"

"My blood tastes like Iron."

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Dec 20, 2014 5:04 PM

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That essay paper made me lmao. Great one. :D

As for the episode; I like how Archer bashed Shirou becase of his silly way of thinking.
Dec 20, 2014 5:10 PM
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I seem to remember this part of the VN being better with more explanations. I also think the talk about Shirou and Archer's ideals was better handled too so I'm a little disappointed.

Also, I hope at some point we get to hear some music from the VN. I know the Emiya track won't come up for awhile but I really want the Ever-present feeling track in...it should have come in at least a few times by now :/

For those who want to listen to a nice loop of this track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L1DEvzsftw
Dec 20, 2014 5:19 PM

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caperock said:
To be honest, no idea at this point.

Also, it it just me or is the OST pretty forgettable and uninspired?
I still have few Yuki Kajiura OSTs from F/Z on my MP3.


honestly i think the osts are the two best things about this anime the other being the animation.


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Was hurt deeply, but thank you mike.



made me lol haha
Dec 20, 2014 5:20 PM
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I seem to remember this part of the VN being better with more explanations. I also think the talk about Shirou and Archer's ideals was better handled too so I'm a little disappointed.

Also, I hope at some point we get to hear some music from the VN. I know the Emiya track won't come up for awhile but I really want the Ever-present feeling track in...it should have come in at least a few times by now :/

For those who want to listen to a nice loop of this track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L1DEvzsftw

Casualties of being adapted into a mostly visual format I'm afraid.

Yeah, Ever present feeling was played during this scene in the VN. I don't think we'll be getting many/any Remix's until the one everyone is waiting for.
Dec 20, 2014 5:24 PM
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Decent episode, seems like a calm before the storm type of the episode (from the looks of the preview).

Last episode next week, can't wait to see an hour pure glory.
Dec 20, 2014 5:39 PM

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dat Unlimited Tsundere Works doe. I needed some of that rin in my life. Dat Rin skirt, that door close, that tsun tsun, that dere dere.

so this, episode couple interesting things in the dialog
so at this point

it looks to me that the relationship between rin and shiou was handled just a touch better than it was before, though it still seems just a little too subtle? not sure if that is how to describe it. I'm not saying i need it all spelled out for me but this episode just like previous ones could use at least a 1 line monologue from Shirou. From looking just at the characters Shirou is in need at least a few more of these than the what 2? that we got? Rin has gotten several so why can't Shirou THE MC get a couple more. I'm dissapointed that there wasn't a talk about his projection magic. I could use some exposition on what shirou is capable of in terms of magecraft. I don't need my hand held but i could use more than just "kiritsugu told me it was useless, so i didn't bother" it's pretty important to get a fair lay out of what shirou can do. It's would have been nice if he had also made a comment on how
in regards to him defending himself.

but anyway i enjoyed the episode i didn't really find it boring like some did, i might watch it again to give another once over to see if i missed anything in the dialog. i know how this series has a lot going on in these SOL episodes if you read in between the lines. I would mention some of the other things that i saw in the dialogue but i think i've said enough.
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Im starting to like Shiro a bit more

though I don't get why he's getting flustered around Rin all of a sudden
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Im starting to like Shiro a bit more

though I don't get why he's getting flustered around Rin all of a sudden


Would you be able to stay composed?

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