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dankickyou said: kokusho36 said: So original, so mindblowing, 10/10. Everyone who complains about F/SN is just a F/Z fanboy who doesn't understand that F/Z is just side material, right? Thank god there's finally someone who points this out, it's not like every criticism is immediately answered by 5 different sarcastic priests. IKR!? I'm just so amazing and original! <3 We're getting into meta-meta-sarcasm now, we're almost as deep as Shirou's character. |
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ijuka said: robis798 said: Nice episode, but when is Saber going to kick someone's ass? Isn't she the strongest servant? ( excluding berserker, idk ) In the case it wasn't obvious from episode 1, Shirou is a bad master and Saber cannot use her full powers due to him. Incomplete summoning as well IIRC. Well, and isn't she still wounded by lancer's spear? They didn't emphasize this fact much but it's big issue. |
BotatoPriest said: Taking the spotlight in Fate doesn't make her weak tho. Saber class is not the strongest, it's just the most balanced in terms of stats. But stats also depend on the Master. You also need to remember that the heroic spirit's legend is important (basically their combat skills and abilities/Noble Phantasms). Unfortunately for Saber, the other Servants are God-tier in this war so simply being strong won't be enough. You can't deny she was a lot more badass in that route, though. |
dankickyou said: robis798 said: And am I the only one that is not enjoying her getting beat up? :D Yes. Everyone loves seeing Saber get beaten up because of pity kick the dog moe that Saber is best at. Yeah, I will never understand you people for that unjustified hate ( dislike ) you have towards her. But I'm going off topic, Tyrel almost banned me for going off topic a few weeks ago. |
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mira-lala said: I know right?It just proves that best girl needs to be nerfed for her not to curbstomp.Kek. Nasu should have made it so Rin has 300 Rank A gems. Who cares about best girl being too OP. |
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InsertPriestHere said: robis798 said: Well I don't remember exactly where I heard that she is the strongest, but it was mentioned more than once and she is getting beaten up a lot of the times. And am I the only one that is not enjoying her getting beat up? :D Again, the class is the strongest, technically. However, Saber is hindered by having Shirou as a master. And again, she had all the spotlight in Fate, so she's marginalized here. The class is the strongest due to good magic resistance and being good at close combat, but it's only in straight up combat and isn't very tricky. Caster can use tricks and stuff although is generally considered the weakest, Berserker is actually the strongest but is insane, Assassin can kill masters even though he's not good at fighting vs servants, Archer is ranged which of course is an advantage over melee, Lancer is the most agile servant class even though I guess Lancer should lose to Saber in head-to-head combat but it might be more useful when you need to close distance quickly... Rider is good at... riding? I have no clue honestly. |
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mira-lala said: mickdrew_99 said: It all makes sense now: Caster has a MAL account. Oh, did you not know? I am the bastard child between Blondy and Caster~ I did not know that. Blondy's got some explaining to do... |
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ijuka said: InsertPriestHere said: Again, the class is the strongest, technically. However, Saber is hindered by having Shirou as a master. And again, she had all the spotlight in Fate, so she's marginalized here. The class is the strongest due to good magic resistance and being good at close combat, but it's only in straight up combat and isn't very tricky. Caster can use tricks and stuff although is generally considered the weakest, Berserker is actually the strongest but is insane, Assassin can kill masters even though he's not good at fighting vs servants, Archer is ranged which of course is an advantage over melee, Lancer is the most agile servant class even though I guess Lancer should lose to Saber in head-to-head combat but it might be more useful when you need to close distance quickly... Rider is good at... riding? I have no clue honestly. I always thought Lancer could match Saber 1 on 1, but there isn't really a moment in the show where they fight on even ground. =| |
BotatoPriest said: mira-lala said: I know right?It just proves that best girl needs to be nerfed for her not to curbstomp.Kek. Nasu should have made it so Rin has 300 Rank A gems. Who cares about best girl being too OP. She just needs to borrow some money from Luvia and everything's gonna be fine. |
y123y said: Now I really wanna see a Sensei vs. Archer fight |
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mickdrew_99 said: y123y said: Now I really wanna see a Sensei vs. Archer fight Kirei vs. Kuzuki would be more epic imo A Man of God is a man of peace. He will have no conflict with Friendly Best History Sensei. |
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BotatoPriest said: mira-lala said: I know right?It just proves that best girl needs to be nerfed for her not to curbstomp.Kek. Nasu should have made it so Rin has 300 Rank A gems. Who cares about best girl being too OP. Exactly. Who cares about best girls being OP? Rin x Saber, best pairing confirmed. Saber will give Rin money by selling her armour. She can always make some more. Rin gets 100 A ranks gems. Competition curbstomped. Best girls win! We just need to get Rider and Ilya in somewhere along the way... |
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InsertPriestHere said: I didn't. The way you said it doesn't answer his question though.BotatoPriest said: Taking the spotlight in Fate doesn't make her weak tho. Saber class is not the strongest, it's just the most balanced in terms of stats. But stats also depend on the Master. You also need to remember that the heroic spirit's legend is important (basically their combat skills and abilities/Noble Phantasms). Unfortunately for Saber, the other Servants are God-tier in this war so simply being strong won't be enough. You can't deny she was a lot more badass in that route, though. That's like: "Why is Super Man weak?" "Well he was given his moments in movie 1, so it's okay if he's weak in movie 2." Which would be an inconsistency between both stories. She is just as strong as in Fate, just that the circumstances are different and she has bad match ups. |
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mira-lala said: BotatoPriest said: I know right? Nasu should have made it so Rin has 300 Rank A gems. Who cares about best girl being too OP. Exactly. Who cares about best girls being OP? Rin x Saber, best pairing confirmed. Saber will give Rin money by selling her armour. She can always make some more. Rin gets 100 A ranks gems. Competition curbstomped. Best girls win! We just need to get Rider and Ilya in somewhere along the way... Ilya x Rin would make more sense because Ilya is actually rich. |
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BotatoPriest said: InsertPriestHere said: I didn't. The way you said it doesn't answer his question though.You can't deny she was a lot more badass in that route, though. That's like: "Why is Super Man weak?" "Well he was given his moments in movie 1, so it's okay if he's weak in movie 2." Which would be an inconsistency between both stories. She is just as strong as in Fate, just that the circumstances are different and she has bad match ups. But speaking from a writing perspective, that is one of the reasons-the in universe reasons are created from it, not the other way around. The same is true, for example, with Rider. |
SwordHand said: ijuka said: The class is the strongest due to good magic resistance and being good at close combat, but it's only in straight up combat and isn't very tricky. Caster can use tricks and stuff although is generally considered the weakest, Berserker is actually the strongest but is insane, Assassin can kill masters even though he's not good at fighting vs servants, Archer is ranged which of course is an advantage over melee, Lancer is the most agile servant class even though I guess Lancer should lose to Saber in head-to-head combat but it might be more useful when you need to close distance quickly... Rider is good at... riding? I have no clue honestly. I always thought Lancer could match Saber 1 on 1, but there isn't really a moment in the show where they fight on even ground. =| Which Lancer? Considering the situations, whether she is nerfed or not. She can beat both..... |
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ijuka said: Riders are generally weak in combat but have super hax abilities/NPs.InsertPriestHere said: Again, the class is the strongest, technically. However, Saber is hindered by having Shirou as a master. And again, she had all the spotlight in Fate, so she's marginalized here. The class is the strongest due to good magic resistance and being good at close combat, but it's only in straight up combat and isn't very tricky. Caster can use tricks and stuff although is generally considered the weakest, Berserker is actually the strongest but is insane, Assassin can kill masters even though he's not good at fighting vs servants, Archer is ranged which of course is an advantage over melee, Lancer is the most agile servant class even though I guess Lancer should lose to Saber in head-to-head combat but it might be more useful when you need to close distance quickly... Rider is good at... riding? I have no clue honestly. |
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Mich666 said: ijuka said: In the case it wasn't obvious from episode 1, Shirou is a bad master and Saber cannot use her full powers due to him. Incomplete summoning as well IIRC. Well, and isn't she still wounded by lancer's spear? They didn't emphasize this fact much but it's big issue. I even forgot about this but yeah, that wound should never heal. |
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mira-lala said: Which Lancer? Considering the situations, whether she is nerfed or not. She can beat both..... Ofc she can. Peak saber takes out any servant except for berseker(illya) and goldie boy. |
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Zeally said: holy shit Kazuki just went Bruce Lee on their asses The quality of that fight scene made me cry. Emiya may not be GAR, but he tries hard as fuck. |
InsertPriestHere said: We are saying the same thing but I just didn't like the way you put it, because you made it sound like in UBW she is weaker, when in fact she is the same.BotatoPriest said: I didn't. The way you said it doesn't answer his question though. That's like: "Why is Super Man weak?" "Well he was given his moments in movie 1, so it's okay if he's weak in movie 2." Which would be an inconsistency between both stories. She is just as strong as in Fate, just that the circumstances are different and she has bad match ups. But speaking from a writing perspective, that is one of the reasons-the in universe reasons are created from it, not the other way around. The same is true, for example, with Rider. |
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mira-lala said: ijuka said: Ilya x Rin would make more sense because Ilya is actually rich. Have you seen Seiba's sword> :O Plus, she gets married to blondy chan, money and gold! Can't see it, it's invisible. Blondy x Rin? |
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 die, die already! Where is my helpless Saber face? |
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kokusho36 said: Can't you guys stay on topic for more than 2 posts? This is incredible XD Shiki can kill Servants |
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ijuka said: mira-lala said: Have you seen Seiba's sword> :O Plus, she gets married to blondy chan, money and gold! Can't see it, it's invisible. Blondy x Rin? Nahh, blondy only likes onetwo girls. Rin not included. [SPOILER]Rin gave up in HF bad end to worms |
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fst said: Nothing to worry about. When has hype ever hurt an experience?SwordHand said: The quality of that fight scene made me cry. Emiya may not be GAR, but he tries hard as fuck. 80% downloaded. You guys better not be exaggerating. And by that I mean he'd better be a jeet kune do practitioner or I will be very disappoint. |
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fst said: SwordHand said: The quality of that fight scene made me cry. Emiya may not be GAR, but he tries hard as fuck. 80% downloaded. You guys better not be exaggerating. And by that I mean he'd better be a jeet kune do practitioner or I will be very disappoint. Prepare for disappointment. Just fanboys continuing to overhype the series. |
| Even though every fiber of my being wanted the Kuzuki/Saber fight to last longer, it was best to make it feel so quick. Gives room to justly explain Saber being caught off guard. Same with Shirou but for different reasons. I actually thought his desperation came across pretty well. It wasn't as emphasized here but I'd hope anime viewers can think critically enough to realize he pushed himself beyond his limits with no regard to his own life, for Rin's sake. Man, Shinji and his new buddy sure do seem to mesh. |
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| It wasn't the fight in particular. Seeing Emiya pull himself up really hit me in the feels. Seeing it on the big screen just made me love his resolve that much more. |
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| unlimited budget works does it again an fucking mind blowing episode when shiro used trace on and made archers blades it gave me goosebumps O_O AMAZING!!!! saber got her ass handed to her a.nd shiro was about to avenge the shit out of her !!!!!!!!!!!! insane episode IT FELT LIKE IT WAS ONLY 10 MINS LONG! more please! |
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| The sasaki vs archer sharing of blows did look pretty good. All I can say for this episode was animation bump. The regular animation looked way better also. I think less liberal /more efficient use of CGI helped. |
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bloodiemonster said: unlimited budget works does it again an fucking mind blowing episode when shiro used trace on and made archers blades it gave me goosebumps O_O AMAZING!!!! saber got her ass handed to her a.nd shiro was about to avenge the shit out of her !!!!!!!!!!!! insane episode IT FELT LIKE IT WAS ONLY 10 MINS LONG! more please! Shirou was actually avenging Rin. Avenging Saber would mean bad end. |
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| I don't think that this was that good. The instance where Kuzuki threw Saber to the wall was good, apart from that not great. They cut away and then cut back after a hit connected, couldn't really see the whole picture at all until Saber was rekt which bothered me. The best fight probably was Archer vs Lancer, but Berserker fight was great as well. |
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Drake1000 said: The Berserker fight is the best one so far imo, with Archer vs Lancer coming second. Pfft. You can easily see past the effects in the berserker vs saber fight. It looked kinda suckish and the blood looked stupid (also she shouldn't have killed him but yeah) |
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| Best animated fight so far imo has been Saber vs Lanver. Not only it had the top class choreography (like Archer vs Lancer), but also dat Gae bolg animation. |
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black1blade said: The sasaki vs archer sharing of blows did look pretty good. All I can say for this episode was animation bump. The regular animation looked way better also. I think less liberal /more efficient use of CGI helped. That one was very good but I'm not sure if, uh... 5 seconds counts as a fight. |
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 She looks like a machine that's had it's battery take out. :O |
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| best fight was the brief Taiga vs Shirou fight. To see the skills of Taiga is a rare sight indeed |
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| Agreed. For animation production- saber vs lancer then archer vs lancer then team saber vs team caster. However with both choreography and animation I think team saber vs team caster is the best. |
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RinArcher said: Does anyone know why they skilled the OP this episode? Are they going to do it for the next one as well? More content, more better. |
ijuka said: black1blade said: The sasaki vs archer sharing of blows did look pretty good. All I can say for this episode was animation bump. The regular animation looked way better also. I think less liberal /more efficient use of CGI helped. That one was very good but I'm not sure if, uh... 5 seconds counts as a fight. Yeah hence why I said exchanging of blows. Probably more accurate to say exchange of blow. |
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| Maybe they had enough skill points to get the OP to max rank? |
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dankickyou said: best fight was the brief Taiga vs Shirou fight. To see the skills of Taiga is a rare sight indeed Some insane poster action, right there. |
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RinArcher said: Does anyone know why they skilled the OP this episode? Are they going to do it for the next one as well? Would rather have archer chant than mediocre op tbh. |
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RinArcher said: Does anyone know why they skipped the OP this episode? Are they going to do it for the next one as well? time constraints I'm guessing, or as some would say "you know shit is gonna go down if they skip the OP" |
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mira-lala said: She looks like a machine that's had it's battery take out. :O Mira plz |
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