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Dec 5, 2014 8:38 PM
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You are right. They do give "reasons" for all the actions that have occurred & you summed it up very well. I do remember & understand those "reasons." My complaint is that the actions and the reasons behind them seem like extremely contrived situations. Note how all the reasons are simply done via information dumping explanations. The action & reasoning is not flowing organically, but rather just feels to me to be made-up for the sake of having a weird twist on the show's core principles.

We never heard of Panopticon, Season of hell, AA, or advanced human experimentation in this universe. There was no indication that organic material had any impact on psycho passes. There was no indication that Sybil had any actual informed human agents outside Akane and Season 1 implied that Akane was the first outsider that Sybil confessed to. It honestly just seems like a lot of these ideas were pretty cobbled together & written for the express purpose to undermine our previous understanding of the universe for that extra shock/surprise value.

Being able to artifically create AA undermines the premise that Sybil itself doesn't understand what causes AA and requires the harvesting criminally asympamatic people to maintain itself. If you can just grow it in a box, then there would be some sort of scientific explanation for AA and a way to create it, then they should understand AA enough to be able to judge AA people as well.

Killing the doctor & inspectors because it suited sybil reaffirms that sybil is not striving to be a perfect system, but just doing whatever the hell it wants to achieve its personal goals. However, I don't see any consistency in its actions. I agree killing inspectors that knew too much or are a threat makes sense, but you can easily just demote an inspector to a latent criminal & continue to get value out of them instead of killing them. Also, considering the inconsistencies with that mentality by Sybil's actions including how freely it told Mika the truth & how its is chill with Akane knowing & cooperating. It seems like Sybil is a very capricious system this season not really following a systematic logical plan, which contradicts its characterization of emotionless brains that simply apply logic without any preconceived moral biases.

PS: no worries about the long comment. this discussion is interesting. You are right, there are reasons for the things I was complaining about. I personally don't really buy the reasons & it seems very contrived and fake to me.


About the AA. You have a point there in that Sibyl should know the reason of criminally asymptomatic people's existence if they can create them artificially.
And its true that it contradicts what they said in S1. But think about it, the Chief said to Ginoza that AA people were irregularities to the system and that they don't know why they exist. However, I think that if they DO know why those people exist, they certainly wouldn't tell to Ginoza : "Yeah, we are doing some human experiments so we know that those people actually are..." They just can't reveal that.
And about the other part, even if knowing how to create an AA person means they must know what causes them to exist naturally, it doesn't necesarily means Sibyl can judge them. One thing is to understand them, but to judge them may be impossible even in that case.

I guess it's possible that some of these new plot points were created for that shock value. But I personally don't feel bad about it since I'm still enjoying it. Then again, that comes down to each subjetivity and individual taste.
Dec 5, 2014 8:56 PM

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ugly episode.
Dec 5, 2014 9:47 PM
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This episode was a "little" heavy, many information in such little time. At first, I was confused about the "Omnipotence Paradox" thing and I'm still confused about some other things, I'll need to watch this episode again.

Togane and Kamui are both like Makishima, but artificially created. One of them has the ability to cloud anyone's hue (through unknown means) while the other can clear it (through surgery). As it seems, Togane can control his own hue too.

And by what I understood, the "Omnipotence Paradox" thing is a clue that Misako Togane will die in the end for Sibyl to survive (and I think her son will follow the same path). I guess that Mika is kind of a wild card now, a joker, maybe she'll turn the tables on the Toganes' plans and Akane will triumph. That's it.
Dec 5, 2014 9:57 PM

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Saw that coming from miles away when they introduced Akane's granny.

Disappointed with how this season is turning out, it's so predictable, especially with the spoilerific title sequence telegraphing HEY TOGANE IS EVIL.

S1 kept us guessing up until the very end when the nature of Sybil became revealed.
Dec 5, 2014 10:20 PM
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After that ear scene Akane looks like shes going to kick some ass!

What kind of disappointed me this season is that Ginoza doesn't play much of a big role more or less even a role. I also would love to see Kogami once again. So beast! Why doesn't he appear in season 2? I know he said something along the lines of him not being able to see Akane anymore but so what? I might be missing a detail so if anyone can explain. I also know he's going to appear in the movie coming out. Excited for that as well!
Dec 5, 2014 10:45 PM

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I wish they hadn't spoilered Kogami's kidnapping. That's the only thing left I want explained lol.
Dec 6, 2014 12:55 AM
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THAT NESSUN DORMA THOUGH. :3
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Dec 6, 2014 1:12 AM

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It's becoming more and more stupid with almost every episode. Why would Sybil want Akane dead? And why they treat that Togame guy like that, even if he is failed attempt in creating criminally asymptomatic person?
No wonder, dragon with no head must be retarded.
Dec 6, 2014 1:20 AM
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18:10 ... that shot that spins around to togane's silouette and his grin with the fiery background..... dat shot.
Dec 6, 2014 1:42 AM

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Does anyone knows the song that plays at 16:00 and on? That was greatly done.
Dec 6, 2014 1:49 AM

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intense and brutal episode,
i felt bad for the dog on the start
yet to know what coming next...
so much blood and body parts :o
look like Mika and Akane is broken now, 2 episodes left.
Dec 6, 2014 2:00 AM

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Does anyone knows the song that plays at 16:00 and on? That was greatly done.


Puccini's Nessun Dorma (Turandot) *cringe* Defilement of a good aria...LOL
Dec 6, 2014 2:04 AM

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woah. damn. shit. that was wack!

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Dec 6, 2014 2:54 AM

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Gymkata said:
Puccini's Nessun Dorma (Turandot)


I never cared about Puccini, time to dig into him.

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Defilement of a good aria...LOL


Yeah, degenerate as fuck but I really liked it in the end.
Dec 6, 2014 3:48 AM

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Gymkata said:
surfboard_ said:
Does anyone knows the song that plays at 16:00 and on? That was greatly done.


Puccini's Nessun Dorma (Turandot) *cringe* Defilement of a good aria...LOL



it's like when they're at a loss they throw an aria in and, hell, like sugar it makes everything go down.

probably the lyrics make sense but that scene wasn't even that... tense (that wasn't intended :( )
Dec 6, 2014 4:04 AM

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Wow. This is getting a little ununderstandable.

But that Nessun Dorma moment was fuckin' great.
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Dec 6, 2014 4:45 AM

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So Mika lost her mind? What was that applause for?! Can't she just die?

I wonder what colour was Akani when she saw her grandma ears. Poor grandma she doesn't deserve that :(
Dec 6, 2014 5:03 AM

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Unneccesary animal violence. Nope. This is shit.


Seriously? In first season we had a student slashed to death by mechanical bloodhounds -among other brutality- and this time we had bound and possible mutilated people being burned alive, but no, the puppies is where the limit is? Mwahahahahah.....

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unless you were sarcastic. My apologies, if that's the case.


Nope, not sarcastic, and yes puppy violence is the limit.
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WHAT THE FRIGGITY FRICK THE SCNE POST CREDITS IS NOT OKAY

Mika pretty much lost it there...its a surprise her hue is clear though. Her being used by Tougane is really ironic though

But the chateau scene was seriously nauseating AND YOU DO NOT HURT AKANE
Dec 6, 2014 6:26 AM

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akane pleaseeee. don't let your psycho pass get clouded.. fuck tougane.. hope he'll die in a very brutal way... and i just don't know who the real fuck is that chief of the sibyl anymore..

and grandmaaaa T____T

mika, damn.... don't know if i should feel bad for you..or hate you again..
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robis798 said:
WhipItGood said:


Seriously? In first season we had a student slashed to death by mechanical bloodhounds -among other brutality- and this time we had bound and possible mutilated people being burned alive, but no, the puppies is where the limit is? Mwahahahahah.....

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unless you were sarcastic. My apologies, if that's the case.


Nope, not sarcastic, and yes puppy violence is the limit.


real chickens and cows get slaughtered even worse.
Dec 6, 2014 11:45 AM

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Nope, not sarcastic, and yes puppy violence is the limit.


real chickens and cows get slaughtered even worse.


Well yes, but somehow the violence seems a little bit unnecessary.
Dec 6, 2014 12:19 PM

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robis798 said:
Well yes, but somehow the violence seems a little bit unnecessary.


I think its a little late to reflect on which violence is necessary or unnecessary on this anime. I wasn't expecting someone to come here to question it.
Dec 6, 2014 12:56 PM

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I have no idea what is going on.
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Dec 6, 2014 2:12 PM

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On the one hand you have killing puppies, one of the most overdone, basic evil acts. On the other hand there's mutilated people burning alive accompanied by classical music - which comes across as excessively grimdark.

This season is bizarre.
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That ending did it for me. I want Togane dead, as well as the mother.
Dec 6, 2014 9:26 PM

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Aurioch said:


I'll try to answer the questions to the best of my ability.

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why exactly is sybil trying to make Akane's hue black? Wouldn't that hurt them in the long run? If she's judged and forced to be an enforcer/dead, then they'd lose an inspector who follows everything that sybil lays out. Or are they trying to figure out if she's criminally asymptomatic so they can add her to her brain collection?


Partly yeah, trying to figure out if she's criminally asymptomatic, as her hue is insanely hard to cloud.
On the other hand, Sybil and Akane are currently at odds - Akane is still obeying Sybil despite knowing the secret because she knows that there's no other alternative at the moment. If Sybil falls without any kind of replacement, society - which is dependant on Sybil to the point of being unable to exist without it - would completely crumble.


Rather than Sybil, i think its Kasei that is trying to taint her. Last season it was revealed that Sybil also wants Akane to oversee with compasion. I somehow think that what Kasei is trying to do is defending her place incognito. Hence, using Togane to do the dirty job. She's trying to taint Akane to prove to the Sybil System is not capable of handling Sybil.


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Misako Togane is doing things I can't help but believe Sibyl System itself wouldn't approve of. She clearly went way further than Sibyl System every did - what they sought was their further development and self-preservation, true, but their ultimate goal was always to maintain a peaceful, safe society, nothing more, nothing less.

Corrupting competent Inspectors and hurting innocent citizens in order to do that... Sibyl is prides itself for being a reasonable system and what Toganes are doing isn't reasonable. Truly, if Sibyl judging Sibyl means that Sibyl will eliminate Misako Togane, removing her from their system, I'm all for that.
Read more at http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1318907&show=200#zSHe0yZiM7pWBoSy.99


Self preservation can also be the key in figuring out her goal. Misako Togane is tryingt o defend her place in the society where she can be considered its God.
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I now hate Togane and his mother far more than Mika (And that's kind of saying a lot, because I hated Mika for the past few episodes).

The fire scene made me almost scream in anger. I'm not kidding, I was very close to screaming towards the end of this episode.
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cklaighe said:
Rather than Sybil, i think its Kasei that is trying to taint her. Last season it was revealed that Sybil also wants Akane to oversee with compasion. I somehow think that what Kasei is trying to do is defending her place incognito. Hence, using Togane to do the dirty job. She's trying to taint Akane to prove to the Sybil System is not capable of handling Sybil.

Kasei is just an android body and Sibyl System members swap in and out so... that isn't possible.
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robis798 said:
Well yes, but somehow the violence seems a little bit unnecessary.


I think its a little late to reflect on which violence is necessary or unnecessary on this anime. I wasn't expecting someone to come here to question it.


True but the violence was out of place. Not necessary at all to progress Togane's characterization. Felt like a cheap trick by the writing staff for us to hate Togane and show us how ruthless he can be.
Dec 7, 2014 9:14 AM

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Darkdrone said:
True but the violence was out of place. Not necessary at all to progress Togane's characterization. Felt like a cheap trick by the writing staff for us to hate Togane and show us how ruthless he can be.


Isn't all the violence scene their own "fanservice" towards their fans? Togane's dog mudering scene is only a small fraction of the gore/horror content japanese culture has to offer like eroguro. I think that one of the reasons they include needless cruelty is to inject some heavy and "dark" ambience, which is something reasonable if we consider this series lack of substance (like the first season had). At least we can enjoy it without thinking too much outside the box in the end.
Dec 7, 2014 9:59 AM
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I hope akane gets her revenge. I feel like two more episodes isnt enough for this season
Dec 7, 2014 11:31 AM

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Personally I don't quite understand the fixation with wanting Akane to essentially break. At this point I would assume that Togane and Kamui are in it together. Otherwise what would be the point of both of them trying to break her at the same time. As for Mika, while she was created back in S1, her character has been a focal point of hate for the fanbase. Why? Because the writers made her so, and when the writers had her death in the palm of their hand what do we get? Thunderous applause. Perhaps I exaggerate, and maybe she was doing it do save her own butt. That alone does not redeem a character that is out to throw Akane under the bus. With two episodes left I feel like this season has failed to capture the magic the first season had, 11 episodes just isn't enough time to care this season needed the full 22+.
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Personally I don't quite understand the fixation with wanting Akane to essentially break. At this point I would assume that Togane and Kamui are in it together. Otherwise what would be the point of both of them trying to break her at the same time.


Err, no. Togane is out for blood against Kamui and Kamui is out for blood against Togane. Kamui does not have a fixation for wanting Akane to break, he is very interested in her though. Togane wants to break Togane because he is a psycho. He just tries to break any investigator he is assigned to.

One thing I finally understand about why I had this feeling of dislike for season 2 is now answered. It's the difference between Makishima and Kamui and their goals. Throughout Season 1, we get these random cases where people act out their true desires, and Makishima helps them to do so. We question humanity and the purpose of life because each case asks us those questions. For Season 2, we have quite a static character who is apparently a genius. His goals are to take down Sibyl, and nothing else. In season 1, we deal with the questions of life, in season 2, we get an action case where we see the defenders of an empire fight against a revolutionary and his rebel group.
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cklaighe said:
Aurioch said:


I'll try to answer the questions to the best of my ability.



Partly yeah, trying to figure out if she's criminally asymptomatic, as her hue is insanely hard to cloud.
On the other hand, Sybil and Akane are currently at odds - Akane is still obeying Sybil despite knowing the secret because she knows that there's no other alternative at the moment. If Sybil falls without any kind of replacement, society - which is dependant on Sybil to the point of being unable to exist without it - would completely crumble.


Rather than Sybil, i think its Kasei that is trying to taint her. Last season it was revealed that Sybil also wants Akane to oversee with compasion. I somehow think that what Kasei is trying to do is defending her place incognito. Hence, using Togane to do the dirty job. She's trying to taint Akane to prove to the Sybil System is not capable of handling Sybil.


Good point, it's something I forgot. Though it would be more correct to call current Kasei "Togane Misaka" as that's the personality that currently inhabits the body of Chief Kasei.

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Kasei is just an android body and Sibyl System members swap in and out so... that isn't possible.


I honestly doubt it, but I don't anything to back myself out. I think that whichever member takes control of Chief Kasei, that member's personality is reflected through Kasei's body, so Togane Misaka has full control. But that raises the question... if one member goes against the will of the collective, does the collective have means to stop that member.
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What a wonderful main dish!
and poor Akane :(
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What was the classical piece played near the end called, if someone knows can you message it me please?
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Aurioch said:

Sligneris said:
Kasei is just an android body and Sibyl System members swap in and out so... that isn't possible.


I honestly doubt it, but I don't anything to back myself out. I think that whichever member takes control of Chief Kasei, that member's personality is reflected through Kasei's body, so Togane Misaka has full control. But that raises the question... if one member goes against the will of the collective, does the collective have means to stop that member.

Have you forgotten what happened on S1? When Shuusei Kagari found out the Sybil System's true form and the damage Chief Kasei android? And when Makishima destroyed/killed Chief Kasei which contains the brain/data of Kouzaburou Touma then the other day it was showed that Chief Kasei was just fine?

It's obvious that there's a mass produce "Chief Kasei" android which whenever she was destroyed there's always be a replacement with new "brain" who would control it.
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What was the classical piece played near the end called, if someone knows can you message it me please?

Pretty sure it's from the OST which isn't out yet. Someone confirm this.
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mayukachan said:
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What was the classical piece played near the end called, if someone knows can you message it me please?

Pretty sure it's from the OST which isn't out yet. Someone confirm this.


If you are referring to the fire scene, then the music was Nessun Dorma. If not, I don't know.
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Man, I knew by the end of this season I would be at the edge of my seat. This was a very interesting episode but I can't help but wonder how they are going to end this season in just two episodes.
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Man, I knew by the end of this season I would be at the edge of my seat. This was a very interesting episode but I can't help but wonder how they are going to end this season in just two episodes.

This is my conclusions on what would happen in the ending basing the writer's concepts.
[spoiler]Kamui's goal was not to destroy Sybil System but only to expose the "rough start" of Sybil System and it was called "Season of Hell" which is the Plain Crash (that he got involved), his experimentation and various accident due to a defective system.

And once the Sybil System's "experimentation failures" was been exposed to the public he would stop there making his moves and he would either take a suicide or surrender to the MWPSB/Sybil System Authority (What is the best option?) and of course one of his goals was to expose the "True Form" of Sybil System but as Chief Kasei said they will eventually exposed it to the public by themselves.

So after the Sybil System's dark past and true form was revealed to the public, some of them would be against it and will attempt to revolt to stop/crash the system or the others will accept it because every "System" or "Origin" of every Experiment had a "rough start" which includes many failed attempts/experimentation that would most likely being kept as a secret to the public for confidentiality purposes (Top Secret) and it's just like making a drug for a certain virus that would involve testing on animals or worst on humans, and when it failed it would either expose or kept as secret to the public. And hell there's no "Other Option" for their Current System, because they doesn't have other choice they would accept it's dark past and true form.

And as for Chief Kasei/Misako Tougane and Sakuya Tougane they would almost likely would be executed or will be put in prison because of their "handling" of their Inspectors which is make the Inspector's hue/Psycho-Pass clouded (color it black) and be demoted as Enforcer or be eliminated/killed.

And lastly for Akane, she would somewhat gain confidence to make her on "moves" and have the desire to kill people/criminals to do her job effectively. And for the others, they would have their usual lives as if nothing happens. Then the Story of Psycho-Pass Movie starts from there (with the appearance of Kougami in the near end? a cliffhanger?).

You can consider this as a leaked script of the writer because I know what he writes... Just Kidding
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still don't understand why people is disappointed on this season (aside from bad animation on previous episode) no kougami? srsly grow up. violence? do you watch season 1 or not?

I admit it's rushed and wordy, but it's not worth the hate.
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Ohhhhhhh goodness. This show just reached a new level for me.

Akane's face...They have done such a good job developing her character. The Akane we've seen this season and especially this episode has changed so much but it's believable because she is still very much the same person she was in the beginning- except pretty much all vestiges of childhood are gone.

I'm glad Akane didn't totally break. I liked how when they showed her near the end of the episode she had obviously been crying but her head was still in the game & she was thinking clearly. I hope she never fully loses it in this show.

I knew they would do something interesting with Mika. A lot of people said she was annoying but that was kind of the point... They were developing her for this role.

So at the very end, we see togaine as if he's about to use the Dominator on Akane's grandma... When they fire the Dominator, the police should then know where to go... I wonder where it is they plan to lure Akane to?
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I actually love this season. It doesn't feel like filler to me and I think it's been well-written for the most part. Continuing a deconstruction story is no easy task because by nature of it being a deconstruction its greatest asset has already been 'used'. The formula that made Psycho Pass Psycho Pass is not easy to repeat. But this season has done it by coming up with another villain that is something similarly morbid to what Sybil was when it was first revealed. So I call good on the writers for keeping up the pace.

But I do completely agree with the poor use of violence. Dooropens is spot on, there. The very moment the incident with the old guy in the hospital started, I couldn't take it seriously because it was just trying waaay too hard to be taken seriously. Ep 9 was a bit like that, too, but at least it wasn't so drawn out. The scene with the dog was dumb but lasted all of 30 seconds and that was that, and most of the party being wiped out was obscured. I wish the creators hadn't used violence as a crutch, but IMO the story behind it keeps rolling on well enough to make up for it.
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Rayzer said:
Aurioch said:



I honestly doubt it, but I don't anything to back myself out. I think that whichever member takes control of Chief Kasei, that member's personality is reflected through Kasei's body, so Togane Misaka has full control. But that raises the question... if one member goes against the will of the collective, does the collective have means to stop that member.

Have you forgotten what happened on S1? When Shuusei Kagari found out the Sybil System's true form and the damage Chief Kasei android? And when Makishima destroyed/killed Chief Kasei which contains the brain/data of Kouzaburou Touma then the other day it was showed that Chief Kasei was just fine?

It's obvious that there's a mass produce "Chief Kasei" android which whenever she was destroyed there's always be a replacement with new "brain" who would control it.


Mental note to myself: when you want to reduce quote chain but are unsure if you should cut quotes out, put them under spoiler. >.<

I see that my cutting away the original quote once again has created a misunderstanding... I know that Chief Kasei is just an android and physical avatar of Sybil. My original "I doubt it" was refering to

Sligneris said:
cklaighe said:
Rather than Sybil, i think its Kasei that is trying to taint her. Last season it was revealed that Sybil also wants Akane to oversee with compasion. I somehow think that what Kasei is trying to do is defending her place incognito. Hence, using Togane to do the dirty job. She's trying to taint Akane to prove to the Sybil System is not capable of handling Sybil.

Kasei is just an android body and Sibyl System members swap in and out so... that isn't possible.


, knowing that Sybil members can swap control of Chief Kasei (Android) between themselves and that "Chief Kasei" "gains" personality of the member currently controlling it.
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Today in : Have Fun Turning into a Psychopath with Kamui - Gore fest. Yaaaay. I shouldn't have eaten while watching the episode, made me sick a little.
That mansion really was some sick shit. Come on, just shoot those suffering man and woman. End their misery.

Poor Akane, her grandma have been victim of the system she defend. Well, she don't trust the system, but she have no choice to obey. Shimotsuki must have felt like shit when she saw the ear...

That post-ED scene. What a little piece of shit that Togane. He really is freaking insane. If Kougami could come back just to shoot him in the face, that would be great.

I also hope that Jouji Saiga can turn smug face black. Just put that annoying smile into piece.
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Dec 8, 2014 2:59 PM

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God this anime is so fucking brutal.

No.....brutal isn't the right word....it's so........psychological. o-o
RIP Akane's Mom? o-o

Anyways......what's gonna happen now? Kamui and his henchmen all on that train.
Dec 8, 2014 7:41 PM

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omg I knew he'd kill her grandma T__T

Damn Mika's crazy clapping lmao wtf
eijemDec 8, 2014 7:48 PM
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