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Botato said: mayukachan said: I would say it's not the same tbh.To be fair, the number of haters and lovers for Mahouka are pretty even. I've seen people who love it for the incest vibes and at the same time, people who hate it because of that. mayukachan said: I still don't see what's so bad about this though. I never once even noticed it until people were pointing it out on the forums.But she does say onii-sama way too much, you have to be honest. It's pretty much the same number. Mahouka still has a decent rating. And the second part, it's like fanservice but with honorific fetishes. Wintovisky said: It would be quite interesting to see a show around a person or a group of (childhood or not) friends that are trying to accomplish this dream. Somethink like Uchuu Kyoudai. Sports. Anime. But yeah, I'd love to watch an olympics anime. Higashi_no_Kaze said: robis798 said: So I really don't know anything about Mahouka apart from magic, but it seems like it has a good premise but wastes and ruins it with some typical Japan fanservice stuff like incest or lolis. Just like Black Bullet. Am I right? Not really, it's very tame and doesn't really have lolis or ecchi, it's just Tatsuya being badass and every girl passively fawning over him until Miyuki Onii-san's them away and there are like 10 minutes per episode of exposition/long-winded explanations of the magic system which is the main issue many people have with it. It's been nicknamed Infodump: The Animation. Oh, you forgot the random incest moments where Tatsuya touches her face or she takes off clothing and then she blushes. LOL |
| Mahouka has no lolis, honestly Mahouka was suprisingly good compared to how much people seem to hate it. The magic system is pretty damn good, the MC is a bit bland but it's on purpose, you'll understand later on, and although it's a bit too much of school drama, the series is actually pretty good, especially if there will be more seasons, if this became unrelated with that shitty school then I'm sure mahouka could become even better. Anyways I rate it 8/10 |
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| Prepare your diddly holes for this wall of text. mayukachan said: fst said: I clarified my post using quotes. Also, it seems I am really bad at starting shitstorms. Damnit. But Samurai Flamenco is a fucking mess. I'm still not sure whether or not I actually enjoyed it. Ah, okay. Messy yes but the same goes to other plot twist/shock factor heavy shows too yet they're so widely received. I liked Samumenco for what its worth and how it executed everything. The pacing is yuck and characters were average but it was a fun experience and I found it empowering at times (the themes that were there). Well, it doesn't have high production values, and it's writing makes stuff like Guilty Crown look perfectly sensible by comparison. Also a lot of people were understandably uncomfortable with a certain character's repeated, gratuitous ball-stomping. Which I really hope is not what you were referring to when you say empowering themes. HxH_fan said: A part of me wants to watch SAO but there are a ridiculous amount of people saying its terrible, and a ridiculous amont who say thats its plain great...not sure whom should I trust It's both, to be honest. JizzyHitler said: ... but i watched gundam for the story and characters ... lol JD2411 said: Botato said: shallow characters and a very slow start[img]http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/11/55225l.jpg[/ img] Could someone explain to me why does MAL hate this anime so much? It dropped by yet another 0.01, this is just ridiculous, it's already out of the top 50. I bet it gets hate for the simple fact of being an Urobuchi written show, just like Psycho-Pass and Fate/Zero. Slow start? It only takes like 3 episodes to get going. Steins;Gate is a slow start, it takes 12 episodes before shit starts happening. Botato said: mayukachan said: Psycho-Pass is probably Urobuchi's most hated show. Actually that would be Gargantia I guess, but PP sure gets a lot of hate. It is also the go-to example or 'proof' for people when they claim that Urobuchi is pretentious.I don't care much about Urobuchi. I don't really care for his other works, but I do like Psycho Pass. PP honestly has so many things wrong with it, but people unfairly cite that scene where the characters just quote philosophers at each other as an example of Urobuchi being pretentious because that was the episode writer's idea, not the butcher's. mayukachan said: Botato said: Psycho-Pass is probably Urobuchi's most hated show. Actually that would be Gargantia I guess, but PP sure gets a lot of hate. It is also the go-to example or 'proof' for people when they claim that Urobuchi is pretentious. Seriously? Wow. I thought Gargantia would be the most hated. Or A.Zero A.Z is probably most hated (just check out the subform), but it's unfair to use that as a criticism of Urobuchi; all he did was create the concept and wrote the first 3 episodes. The first 3 episodes were actually pretty fucking good, but holy crap does it go downhill after that. In any case, all the bullshit that came thereafter is not his fault. JOAOAA said: im gonna start psycho pass today sometime it is worth the watch right? It is. Sapewloth said: And you might not have paid attention, but you really don't need to look that far to see [Shirou]'s got pretty backwards and preconcieved ideas about women in general. By western standards, or by Japanese standards? Because some westerners would view modern Japanese gender norms as pretty backwards. |
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Botato said: To be honest when Akame ga Kill was announced and I watched the PVs I immediately thought "huh.. Sounds just like Mirai Nikki. Pas-- Wait it has action? Cool, I'm in." Now that I have seen the first 10 episodes, I was pretty close tbh. AgK is way better than MN though. How about no. You can't even compare MN with AgK they don't have a single comparable thing other than both MC's being male |
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sumusiko said: Mahouka has no lolis, honestly Mahouka was suprisingly good compared to how much people seem to hate it. The magic system is pretty damn good, the MC is a bit bland but it's on purpose, you'll understand later on, and although it's a bit too much of school drama, the series is actually pretty good, especially if there will be more seasons, if this became unrelated with that shitty school then I'm sure mahouka could become even better. Anyways I rate it 8/10 I'm not surprised, 8 is your average rating, and average is what Mahouka is. |
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sumusiko said: Doesn't matter if it's on purpose or not. Still shitty.MC is a bit bland but it's on purpose, you'll understand later on |
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Well, it doesn't have high production values, and it's writing makes stuff like Guilty Crown look perfectly sensible by comparison. Also a lot of people were understandably uncomfortable with a certain character's repeated, gratuitous ball-stomping. Which I really hope is not what you were referring to when you say empowering themes. Oh yeah, I know people were pissed at all the twists and stuff. I wasn't personally. No, by empowering, I was referring to the "final twist" and Goto's backstory. Also, I found that A.Zero improved later on (altho still mediocre) Higashi_no_Kaze said: I'm not surprised, 8 is your average rating, and average is what Mahouka is. Shots fired ;) |
Botato said: i meant why do you think it as a cliffhanger? i thought the ending in the movie cover everything. did you watch after the credits?Okashi--chan said: I mean that both endings are not that great, but Rebellion's is worse.What do you mean? Until a sequel is announced that is. |
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mayukachan said: Wintovisky said: It would be quite interesting to see a show around a person or a group of (childhood or not) friends that are trying to accomplish this dream. Somethink like Uchuu Kyoudai. Sports. Anime. That's why I said Olympics. It would nice to see bigger goals for a change. Like Major. Imagine Haikyuu!! following those kids until they play for Japanese national team. I am moist just thinking about it lel. Okay, a big cast would be difficult, but they could do with one, two or three people, I don't know. Ping Pong is not the best example of what I want, but at least they talk about this subject. |
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| I am really open to all setting and premises and etc. but why WHYYY Japan has to add stuff like incest???? And that annoying one also. I just don't get it. It is so repulsive to me. That's why I dropped Black Bullet. Seemed like a normal anime with serious plot - nope, let's throw in lolis who goes slobberin over the main character.... |
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Higashi_no_Kaze said: sumusiko said: Mahouka has no lolis, honestly Mahouka was suprisingly good compared to how much people seem to hate it. The magic system is pretty damn good, the MC is a bit bland but it's on purpose, you'll understand later on, and although it's a bit too much of school drama, the series is actually pretty good, especially if there will be more seasons, if this became unrelated with that shitty school then I'm sure mahouka could become even better. Anyways I rate it 8/10 I'm not surprised, 8 is your average rating, and average is what Mahouka is. Well I'm very picky at choosing which anime I watch, I can't stand watching anime I hate so I usually drop it, I don't bother trying to finish it so I only pick anime I have a strong feeling that I'll like ehnce why average of 8 |
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Wintovisky said: That's why I said Olympics. It would nice to see bigger goals for a change. Like Major. Imagine Haikyuu!! following those kids until they play for Japanese national team. I am moist just thinking about it lel. Okay, a big cast would be difficult, but they could do with one, two or three people, I don't know. Ping Pong is not the best example of what I want, but at least they talk about this subject. I agree. On the topic of sports anime, I definitely like the idea of going beyond the high school stage. I hope Baby Steps accomplishes this (at least in the manga hopefully). I'm so disappointed that Kuroko no Basuke ended like that. I hope Haikyuu goes beyond, but I doubt it. |
RagesEntity said: well I remember Layfon from Chrome Shelled Regios being super OP, and despite the series being atrocious he was likeable. Is Tatsuya likeable that's the question. Godtsuya is debatable.. I like him when he's not fighting and pretty chilled and all. But he's just ridicously OP. He got shot by a sniper and literally hid for cover right after, no wound, nothing. He shot the sniper a thousand meters away with a pistol as well. He needs a nerf. |
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robis798 said: I am really open to all setting and premises and etc. but why WHYYY Japan has to add stuff like incest???? And that annoying one also. I just don't get it. It is so repulsive to me. That's why I dropped Black Bullet. Seemed like a normal anime with serious plot - nope, let's throw in lolis who goes slobberin over the main character.... Honestly, it still wouldn't be good if you took out the pandering. |
sumusiko said: Mahouka has no lolis, honestly Mahouka was suprisingly good compared to how much people seem to hate it. The rest of this post is going to be good, I can already tell. sumusiko said: The magic system is pretty damn good Lolnope. Nasuverse does it better. Hell, Harry Potter does it better. You shouldn't need that much infodumping to explain the mechanics of the system. sumusiko said: the MC is a bit bland but it's on purpose, you'll understand later on, Oh man where have I heard that one before... sumusiko said: and although it's a bit too much of school drama, the series is actually pretty good, especially if there will be more seasons, if this became unrelated with that shitty school then I'm sure mahouka could become even better. Where do I start with this one... sumusiko said: Anyways I rate it 8/10 See, I was right when I said it was going to be a good post. |
mayukachan said: Higashi_no_Kaze said: Not really, it's very tame and doesn't really have lolis or ecchi, it's just Tatsuya being badass and every girl passively fawning over him until Miyuki Onii-san's them away and there are like 10 minutes per episode of exposition/long-winded explanations of the magic system which is the main issue many people have with it. It's been nicknamed Infodump: The Animation. Oh, you forgot the random incest moments where Tatsuya touches her face or she takes off clothing and then she blushes. LOL Well, they take up like 1-2 minutes of total time over the whole show and most of it was in that one episode so idk, using that as a reason to not watch or hate on the show is like complaining about the 'yaoi' in shinsekai yori. It doesn't really impact the enjoyment of the show much, compared to the hours and hours of infodumping or Tatsuya being OP in every situation. |
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fst said: sumusiko said: Mahouka has no lolis, honestly Mahouka was suprisingly good compared to how much people seem to hate it. The rest of this post is going to be good, I can already tell. sumusiko said: The magic system is pretty damn good Lolnope. Nasuverse does it better. Hell, Harry Potter does it better. You shouldn't need that much infodumping to explain the mechanics of the system. sumusiko said: the MC is a bit bland but it's on purpose, you'll understand later on, Oh man where have I heard that one before... sumusiko said: and although it's a bit too much of school drama, the series is actually pretty good, especially if there will be more seasons, if this became unrelated with that shitty school then I'm sure mahouka could become even better. Where do I start with this one... sumusiko said: Anyways I rate it 8/10 See, I was right when I said it was going to be a good post. Opinions, deal with it. The magic system is pretty damn good, people complain when anime leave things unexplained, people complain when things are explained to its full extent, people complain about everything. |
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Higashi_no_Kaze said: Well, they take up like 1-2 minutes of total time over the whole show and most of it was in that one episode so idk, using that as a reason to not watch or hate on the show is like complaining about the 'yaoi' in shinsekai yori. It doesn't really impact the enjoyment of the show much, compared to the hours and hours of infodumping or Tatsuya being OP in every situation. There were at least five of those moments so far. I feel like those break the "serious mood" that show tries to go for. It's like decent at times and then that scene with I won't argue much about SSY as it wasn't intended as fanservice. |
Higashi_no_Kaze said: the hours and hours of infodumping or Tatsuya being OP in every situation. but i only watch it for those two reasons, i like the infodump although it's long and unreasonable, and praise the onii-sama he does a good job of being OP. |
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Higashi_no_Kaze said: mayukachan said: Oh, you forgot the random incest moments where Tatsuya touches her face or she takes off clothing and then she blushes. LOL Well, they take up like 1-2 minutes of total time over the whole show and most of it was in that one episode so idk, using that as a reason to not watch or hate on the show is like complaining about the 'yaoi' in shinsekai yori. It doesn't really impact the enjoyment of the show much, compared to the hours and hours of infodumping or Tatsuya being OP in every situation. Well if it was only in 1 episode than of course it is no big deal. I mean in Shinsekai yori it only happened once. But then again these themes were used very differently in those shows. One has to do something to the story while other is just thrown there just for fanservice. Probably. |
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sumusiko said: the incest in Mahouka is the best part of it, I mean why do you even care xD The incest is done for fan service and not for any serious reason. |
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sumusiko said: It's an edgy clusterfuck of insanity, with blood and gore.How about no. You can't even compare MN with AgK they don't have a single comparable thing other than both MC's being male Yup, a lot of things in common, except one was trying to be a psychological mind game and failed, the other is trying to be a battle shounen and it's kinda working. Okashi--chan said: No it didn't. And after the credits doesn't really mean anything. The ending to rebellion really felt like a story's middle part; definitely not a good place to end.i meant why do you think it as a cliffhanger? i thought the ending in the movie cover everything. did you watch after the credits? robis798 said: There is no incest in Mahouka.I am really open to all setting and premises and etc. but why WHYYY Japan has to add stuff like incest???? And that annoying one also. I just don't get it. It is so repulsive to me. That's why I dropped Black Bullet. Seemed like a normal anime with serious plot - nope, let's throw in lolis who goes slobberin over the main character.... Black Bullet is made to spite lolicons. |
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robis798 said: Well if it was only in 1 episode than of course it is no big deal. But it wasn't just in one episode. |
mayukachan said: I agree. On the topic of sports anime, I definitely like the idea of going beyond the high school stage. I hope Baby Steps accomplishes this (at least in the manga hopefully). I'm so disappointed that Kuroko no Basuke ended like that. I hope Haikyuu goes beyond, but I doubt it. I doubt it as well. Actually, I think this kind of thig is very unlikely in any sports anime lol. Maybe Diamond no Ace could do it, since it's a long running manga (I guess?) with a bunch of overpowered characters already (that's why I can see them succeed, but have my doubts about something like Oofuri). But without the focus being on Olympics, because as far as I know no one gives a fuck about baseball in the Olympics (is it still part of the Olympic games? Lol). If I reckon correctly they also talk about this in the Suzuka manga. But everyone knows Suzuka isn't about sports lol. Maybe a swimming anime/manga would be cool since both championship and olympics are really important to its athlets. Curling anime NOW. Most exciting sport ever. Just kidding (but I actually like it haha). |
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hybreezy said: >incest >serious reasons pick one? http://myanimelist.net/anime/634/Koi_Kaze/ I heard this does it well. |
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mayukachan said: Higashi_no_Kaze said: Well, they take up like 1-2 minutes of total time over the whole show and most of it was in that one episode so idk, using that as a reason to not watch or hate on the show is like complaining about the 'yaoi' in shinsekai yori. It doesn't really impact the enjoyment of the show much, compared to the hours and hours of infodumping or Tatsuya being OP in every situation. There were at least five of those moments so far. I feel like those break the "serious mood" that show tries to go for. It's like decent at times and then that scene with Well, I stopped buying into the super serious atmosphere after 2 or 3 minutes into the first episode and I was just glad they toned down the incest fanservice stuff to a minimal level after initially overdoing it in the first episodes. I'm probably not bothered because the worst scenes in that regard were right at the start and from there on everything seemed like an improvement ^^. I find it a lot less annoying when you have 30 seconds every other episode that focuses on it compared to say SAO II which in the middle of the battle suddenly spends like 2 episodes fully on cringe-worthy stuff. Spreading out the cringe is much more bearable :> |
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_Ultima_ said: hybreezy said: >incest >serious reasons pick one? http://myanimelist.net/anime/634/Koi_Kaze/ I heard this does it well. I knew someone would bring this up but I'm confident in the fact it's the only one anyone is gonna bring up |
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Botato said: Agk is a lot edgier than MN was.sumusiko said: It's and edgy clusterfuck of insanity, with blood and gore.How about no. You can't even compare MN with AgK they don't have a single comparable thing other than both MC's being male Yup, a lot of things in common, except one was trying to be a psychological mind game and failed, the other is trying to be a battle shounen and it's kinda working. hybreezy said: w-what about yosuga no sora?I knew someone would bring this up but I'm confident in the fact it's the only one anyone is gonna bring up sortasrs |
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Cupquake said: Dunno man, I'm only talking about the first 10 episodes. I haven't read the manga.Agk is a lot edgier than MN was. |
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Botato said: sumusiko said: It's an edgy clusterfuck of insanity, with blood and gore.How about no. You can't even compare MN with AgK they don't have a single comparable thing other than both MC's being male Yup, a lot of things in common, except one was trying to be a psychological mind game and failed, the other is trying to be a battle shounen and it's kinda working. So the only thing you're comparing is the edgyness, blood and gore? So many anime released these days is edgy, don't see your point. Either way, opinions, ratings tell otherwise. Besides, wait until the anime catches the manga if you wanna see what edgy means |
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Okashi--chan said: Higashi_no_Kaze said: the hours and hours of infodumping or Tatsuya being OP in every situation. but i only watch it for those two reasons, i like the infodump although it's long and unreasonable, and praise the onii-sama he does a good job of being OP. Well, those are the only two things the show offers after all so of course the people who like the show would enjoy them. Same way the people who hate the show hate it because of those aspects. There's nothing else to like or hate about it, except minor details. |
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Botato said: Okashi--chan said: No it didn't. And after the credits doesn't really mean anything. The ending to rebellion really felt like a story's middle part; definitely not a good place to end.i meant why do you think it as a cliffhanger? i thought the ending in the movie cover everything. did you watch after the credits? Maybe you didn't look at it from my point of view, i thought the ending covered everything because and that's why i think it did cover everything. |
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fst said: Sapewloth said: And you might not have paid attention, but you really don't need to look that far to see [Shirou]'s got pretty backwards and preconcieved ideas about women in general. By western standards, or by Japanese standards? Because some westerners would view modern Japanese gender norms as pretty backwards. I'm no expert on the issue of gender roles in Japan, but I'd say both (more on the western standards side, tho). Well, considering feminism in Japan seems more focused on the expansion of women's roles and activities in society than their own autonomy in relation to the men than Western feminism, I imagine a character like Saber would be generally seen as progressive moreso in Japan than in the West (given her non-conventional role as the protector). But as far as Shirou's ideas go, I'm pretty sure assuming women are emotionally weaker than men would be considered sexist everywhere... or maybe not? You tell me. |
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mayukachan said: It at least went into the consequences and trials that come with an incestuous relationship.^ I feel like Yosuga didn't have enough development into why they even loved each other, other than her being attractive to him and her being possessive all of a sudden. |
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Cupquake said: mayukachan said: It at least went into the consequences and trials that come with an incestuous relationship.^ I feel like Yosuga didn't have enough development into why they even loved each other, other than her being attractive to him and her being possessive all of a sudden. lol |
mayukachan said: Oofuri is definitely staying in the high school timeline. lol I hope DiaAce can pull it off but I see the show as Eijun's goal to becoming an ace and that's about it. Goro had the goal from the start (well, a bit later on) HOCKEY and more soccer pls Yea. Too bad since Oofuri is such a kawaii anime (does that even make sense? Lol). Then again, Diamond no ace have a big cast. It would only work out if they only paid attention to Sawamura and the other 2 first years + Miyuki. AND CHRIS SENPAIN. I WOULD TOTALLY WATCH A SPIN OFF ABOUT CHRIS-SENPAI. After that episode where they showed him You mean football u fat 'murican. |
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mayukachan said: Cupquake said: It at least went into the consequences and trials that come with an incestuous relationship. lol Don't you understand the thrill of someone walking in on you? |
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Okashi--chan said: Botato said: No it didn't. And after the credits doesn't really mean anything. The ending to rebellion really felt like a story's middle part; definitely not a good place to end. Maybe you didn't look at it from my point of view, i thought the ending covered everything because and that's why i think it did cover everything. |
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mayukachan said: I never said it was well written. It's also unlikely for someone to just come into your house. Wrong time and placeCupquake said: It at least went into the consequences and trials that come with an incestuous relationship. lol |
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