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Aug 4, 2011 7:33 PM

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wah its such a shame that this anime isnt shounen ai/yaoi.. its such a waste. my fangirlism is sooo totally reading between the lines and totally wishes they would just be a couple. gah! im going to be sad when this ends and nothing comes out of their relationship.. =/
Aug 4, 2011 7:39 PM
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I wonder about the song during the dance scene. It sounded familiar. I even had an impression it is some classical music but I'm not sure.
Aug 4, 2011 7:49 PM

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XD Nezumi looks good in women's clothing!
Aug 4, 2011 9:05 PM
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Crii said:

I'm assuming that the reason why Safu heard the same song as Nezumi is because "it carries the soul away like the wind". Which was an implication of her grandmother passing away.

It makes me wonder, why did Nezumi hear that song in the first place? It's not like (or what it seems like) he is infected. I wonder if he heard it because of Safu? It leaves me waiting for the next episode :)

Dancing scene was adorable!

KitKatze said:
Shion is kindhearted and cute but why does he wear grandpa clothes? his slippers and so not sexy :D

Yep especially the sweater

How'd Sion even manage to basically attack Nezumi like that? I guess it was about time (superpowers from special bees? hahaha) It seemed like Nezumi wasnt paying too much attention to his speech though~ He may just be overthinking Sion's reactions- the guy was bound to know/learn something. Underestimating someone that smart is very wrong.

Valentiln said:

Btw, the progress of the infection in other victims seems more accelerated/different than Sion's. Or I am just looking too much in to it.

I don't think you are. Plus, this woman wanted to quit her job, so maybe she was seen as a threat or something? That may not be the case though, as the gov't may or may not have erased the memories of witnesses, and the news getting out to the West District means they probably aren't controlling it well. Who knows?
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Riiigghhttt... so Nezumi and Safu had some ridiculous random acid trip because they heard some random ass woman singing. And lo and behold, Safu suddenly thinks of Nezumi. The fuck?

Then they danced. They fucking danced. They might as well just have even more close quarters contact and wrestle each other but of course, we wouldn't want to be too manly and rough about it. We need to keep some shred of beautiful elegance or we'd scare the girls too much.

What the fuck is this show pulling at right now? 5 episodes in and the plot has barely been touched upon. It's just been bromance after bromance for the most part. What happened to Big Brother government? The dystopian lives of people living outside the walls? The fucking bees? At least they're finally doing SOMETHING with it.
Aug 4, 2011 9:45 PM

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the homogenosity is off the charts with this one

sion needs to hop off the nezumi ****...he stays on that ****

and wasabi is 100% true....wtf is going on with the city....people are getting old and dying...but all theyre showing is the homoflication of nezumi and sion...what is it? the bees? the wind? the singing? or is the gayness of nezumi and sion killing everyone? lol

i really wonder what it could be.
Aug 4, 2011 9:53 PM

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STM said:
I understand why Nezumi didn't want Sion to watch his play, I mean, I wouldn't want my friends to see me in that outfit playing a depressed woman. ┐( ̄ー ̄)┌


That's not why he didn't want Sion to see him in the play. Nezumi said "The audience was filled with monsters." He was trying to protect Sion from the dangerous crowd. Don't forget there are criminals and unsavory characters living in that place. Nezumi was happy Sion finally came to see him.

(Shakespearean plays were often done by an all male cast so it's nothing strange about him dressing up like a woman.)

xSimplicity said:
I was so confused at the end of this episode with the pressure point stuff?
But omg Nezumi is so beautiful<3


This is another reason why they shouldn't have cut out so much information from the novel. Nezumi is very distrusting and cautious. He doesn't let anyone get close and is always on his guard. He was shocked and scared that Sion managed to touch his neck so easily and he didn't see it coming. Of course Sion was touching him out of affection and didn't mean anything by it but the fact remains that he got close.

People who are watching this who haven't read the novel yet don't understand what a big deal it is that Nezumi trusts Sion enough to allow him to move in with him. They cut this out in the anime but Nezumi reflects in the novel how lost he felt four years ago thinking no one would help him and he was going to die out there. Then Sion opened the window and screamed and it was like he was calling Nezumi in. Sion even left the window open so he could come in. He gave Nezumi medical attention, fed and clothed him. To Nezumi, Sion was his savior and that's why he cares so much about him. It was the first time someone showed him kindness expecting nothing in return. Nezumi has suffered a tragic past and has had a hard life as you can see and Sion is breaking down those barriers he built up around himself.

Some people are confused by the connection between Safu and Nezumi. That part was not in the Novel and they just added it in for some reason. They don't have a link to each other or anything. I know what the whole deal was with the wind, singing and the dreaming and Safu shouldn't have had anything to do with it. I have to see where the anime is going with that. Safu does end up playing a big role in the novel so I understand why they want her to be more involved in the story even though I don't like it.

Anyway just wanted to clear that stuff up. :)
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Aug 4, 2011 10:24 PM

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awesome dance scene is awesome.

next week looks tight.
Aug 4, 2011 11:08 PM

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Having followed the light novel so far, the order of the events can be slightly confusing; but that's pretty much expected, with the difficulty of compressing it all into just 11 episodes.

The dance? Usually I don't bat an eye during such scenes, but I found it to be somewhat bittersweet and sad - must've been the music.

I'm interested in seeing how the dystopic story will unfold, along with further revelations on Nezumi's character and motives ; haven't read that far in the novel yet ('cept for spoilers) so I'm curious as to how the anime will handle it.

And as for Nezumi playing the part of Ophelia, I didn't find it particularly weird; given the time the play was written by Shakespeare, when female parts were played by young/adolescent males, since women acting on stage was unthinkable of.
Aug 4, 2011 11:25 PM

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Hmm.. Nezumi and Shion... -laughs nervously-

The Safu and Nezumi thing was surprising. What's going on? o_o OH NO THEY HAVE A CONNECTION. Lol, kidding.

The dance thing was... well. Sion looked so cute! xD -has a something for cute little things-

What was with the implied violence-and-horror in that last scene? It ruined the moment- I think Nezumi looked pretty scared of Sion, even though he was spouting all those cheesy lines. T'was scary. :S

Sion's transforming into a violent man! Ohoho!
Aug 5, 2011 12:14 AM

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People keep alluding to the No.6 novel(s). Does anyone know where an English translated version could be purchased. The novel sounds amazing and I feel like I'm missing out.
Aug 5, 2011 12:52 AM

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what gryfynder said ^

this ep was quite trippy. i was like :O when they passed out and Nezumi had that dream.

thanks about clearing up that neck touching thing. it seemed to me that Shion did it unbelievably fast and thats why Nezumi was so shocked, but if it was just fear of emotions and letting someone in, then i hope Nezumi will eventually develop in to a little softer person. not all the way, but just a little, cuz we need a badass like him :P

the dancing was a little weird, but i liked Nezumis' expressions.
and i already cant wait for next week!
Aug 5, 2011 1:02 AM

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gryfynder said:
People keep alluding to the No.6 novel(s). Does anyone know where an English translated version could be purchased. The novel sounds amazing and I feel like I'm missing out.


There currently isn't an English translated version you can buy, but online translations (yet to be complete) can be found at http://ninteenpointzerofour.wordpress.com/tag/no-6/
Aug 5, 2011 3:23 AM
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Very Nice. This was a interesting episode including another strange death, some footage of safu in No. 5, a famous play (with Nezumi acting as a girl), and some dancing between Rat and Shion.

In the beginning we see a lady die from that creepy insect/ aging disease again. And then the scene eventually moves to Shion cleaning Inukashi's dogs at her place. And when Rikiga, Shion, and Inukashi all become informed that more of the strange bug deaths are occuring in No. 6 from a discussion, Shion decides that he must tell Nezumi about it at once. So Rikiga takes him to see "Eve's" (Nezumi's) performance. Near the end (of the play), nezumi and safu simultaneously collapse after hearing a strange lullaby-like song about souls, even though they are so far apart from one another. This means they probably have some strange kind of connection that we'll find out about in later episodes. Nezumi has a scary dream involving bees and a strange voice, telling him that she will save him or something along those lines. In fear, he screams out Shion's name (signalling perhaps that he and Shion are closer than he had thought) and wakes up beside Shion on a bed. When Nezumi is told about the happenning events in No. 6, he is put into a better mood and takes Shion by the hands and teaches him how to dance. Finally, Shion breaks through Rat's defenses by swatting his neck right over a pressure point saying that he could not bear to lose Nezumi above all. Ofcourse the Rat stays up late into the night, thinking over and over about how he let Shion touch him like that. Then the episode ends with a question: "Shion, who are you".

Now for the points I'd like to make. Firstly, all the fan girls out there can go ahead and scream in excessive plessure AS MUCH AS THEY WANT. They can IMAGINE as many erotic, veluptuos conversations and carnal events that WON'T happen by themselves. BUT no matter what, there is nothing going on between Shion and Nezumi. I repeat: The relationship between these 2 is strictly one between two close friends that would "never forget each other" (like...Harry Potter and Albus Dumbledore). Yes, we can see that their relationship is getting more intimate each and every episode, but that will have a limit. I guarantee that it will go no further then the kind of love you feel for a parent or sibling. This series is something like Kingdom Hearts' Riku and Sora. They are great very touchy but not lovers. I believe this is something to do with the fact that the relationship between men is alot more personnel in Japan. Friends are very hands on and that culturistic trait is just being transfered into this anime.

Secondly, for all those people who didnt like this episode only because it didnt have even "Shonen-Ai Love Scences", seriously, just stop watching this series. Go and watch Uta no Prince-sama - Maji Love 1000%. Im sure youll get what you need from a series like that. Or rather you're probably already watching that, so, stick with it. No. 6 is a kind story about friends and family mixed with intense futuristic sci-fy. Its not gay porn.

Thirdly, there are still "straight guys watching this" because they can see it for what it is; an awesome anime that will become a classic dramatic and affectionate bonding of humans as well as the struggle that puts them where they never thought they would end up.

Pretty much I think we'll see Nezumi dying at the end of this anime and safu with Shion together in his debt or something like that. No. 6 will probably fall and the secret behind the mysterious bugs murders may be solved. Or maybe there will be a second series that finishes it instead. Who could know?

I cant wait to be racked on by literally every Boy-Love fan girl out there after posting this, but i couldnt stand reading all those anticipative yaoi comments predicting guys touching each other all over...bleh. Not that im against being gay at all but this anime is not that. If it does become that, well, i guess ill surrender and give up on this show.
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WHAT A GAY SHOW... ZZZZZZZZZ
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T3rm1n4t0r2 said:

Now for the points I'd like to make. Firstly, all the fan girls out there can go ahead and scream in excessive plessure AS MUCH AS THEY WANT. They can IMAGINE as many erotic, veluptuos conversations and carnal events that WON'T happen by themselves. BUT no matter what, there is nothing going on between Shion and Nezumi. I repeat: The relationship between these 2 is strictly one between two close friends that would "never forget each other" (like...Harry Potter and Albus Dumbledore). Yes, we can see that their relationship is getting more intimate each and every episode, but that will have a limit. I guarantee that it will go no further then the kind of love you feel for a parent or sibling. This series is something like Kingdom Hearts' Riku and Sora. They are great very touchy but not lovers. I believe this is something to do with the fact that the relationship between men is alot more personnel in Japan. Friends are very hands on and that culturistic trait is just being transfered into this anime.


Ahh, but with all the BL fanservice, can you really expect us not to ship them? I think the producers knew quite well that their audience would be crazy about the whole ShionxNezumi thing too, seeing they show a whole lot of fanservice rather than the plot itself..
Of course, I do admit that majority of the people who want Nezumi and Sion to get it on and are just watching this anime for just that reason are mehh... and should look for another anime for that.
As for your endgame theory.. Heh.. heh... (;
Aug 5, 2011 4:45 AM

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arulfever said:
WHAT A GAY SHOW... ZZZZZZZZZ


and here i thought the haters left >_>
wow safu and shion are the same kind (booksmart) i loled when she started going scientific and stuff
AND THE PLOT THICKENS~~ when nezumi and safu had that little song moment, the lyrics suggested something along someone dying and i guess i got my answer by the end of the episode =I looks like next epi safu's gonna have a change of heart
man shion hit a pressure point in one go? what kind of devil's luck is that >_> or does the bee actually did come out from the pressure point O_O
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xSimplicity said:
I was so confused at the end of this episode with the pressure point stuff?
But omg Nezumi is so beautiful<3

Nezumi was scared because he let his guard down so Sion could touch one of his vital points. In the past he probably would never let someone touch him so easily, what if was an enemy? This happened probably because he's getting too involved with Sion, remember he said that they shouldn't know too much about each another because one day they could become enemies? So i guess that was he was so confused and scared in the end.
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Just noticed that keikanna44 explained pretty much the same thing - actually better - in the third page. 8D
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Aug 5, 2011 5:47 AM
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Wow, I just watched it (too late ~_~).

I really like the dance scene, just as many of you because it all sweet and fluffy for my fangirl mind. heehee..

By the way I'm still confused about the last scene where Sion able to touch Nezumi's pressure point. Whether Nezumi let his guard down before Sion or indeed Sion could do something amazing (I don't know yet what the amazing thing here).. Because if Nezumi really let his guard down, I don't think his inner conversation wouldn't be like in the show...
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LolyGothica said:
Wow, I just watched it (too late ~_~).

I really like the dance scene, just as many of you because it all sweet and fluffy for my fangirl mind. heehee..

By the way I'm still confused about the last scene where Sion able to touch Nezumi's pressure point. Whether Nezumi let his guard down before Sion or indeed Sion could do something amazing (I don't know yet what the amazing thing here)..

The "amazing thing" could be that Sion moved so fast and without presence that you couldn't even see this coming. But i'm still with the guard thing. C:
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T3rm1n4t0r2 said:

Now for the points I'd like to make. Firstly, all the fan girls out there can go ahead and scream in excessive plessure AS MUCH AS THEY WANT. They can IMAGINE as many erotic, veluptuos conversations and carnal events that WON'T happen by themselves. BUT no matter what, there is nothing going on between Shion and Nezumi. I repeat: The relationship between these 2 is strictly one between two close friends that would "never forget each other" (like...Harry Potter and Albus Dumbledore). Yes, we can see that their relationship is getting more intimate each and every episode, but that will have a limit. I guarantee that it will go no further then the kind of love you feel for a parent or sibling. This series is something like Kingdom Hearts' Riku and Sora. They are great very touchy but not lovers. I believe this is something to do with the fact that the relationship between men is alot more personnel in Japan. Friends are very hands on and that culturistic trait is just being transfered into this anime.


this is my reply:


and yeah, Shion x Nezumi OTP kyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa *fangirling*

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Aug 5, 2011 8:34 AM

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> You hear that? That was the sound of the last straight man dropping this show :P

Not really. I'm a guy and I hate BL but this show is really good and it still not so BL to make me drop it )
Aug 5, 2011 8:36 AM

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I really couldn't stop smiling XD
That dancing scene made me soooooo happy @_@..

Aug 5, 2011 8:37 AM

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I loved this episode, just love this anime. I was hesitant in the beginning to watch this, but now my week isn't complete until I watch this.

My inner fangirl is happy, the dancing scene, was very sweet. How Shion came rushing to Nezemi's side when he collapsed. How fast Shion was and surprised Nezemi.

Orulyon's reply was on the mark. Thank you for putting everything into words.
Aug 5, 2011 9:18 AM

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lovethislovethislovethislovethislovethis...

the dance scene <3
and Nezumi is a very good looking woman ;b
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keikanna44 said:
You hear that? That was the sound of the last straight man dropping this show :P

This episode was okay for me. Still good but not as good as the other ones. It had too much Safu and not enough Nezumi and Sion for my liking....However I did enjoy seeing "Eve's" performance and the dance scene between Nezumi and Sion made me smile. I LOVED IT!

I look forward to seeing how this ends. ^_^


Actually I'm straight and I still haven't dropped this, even though the pairing has now been set in stone, some plot elements were added but it still didn't feel fantastic, it felt as if they were trying to add a plot to an anime whose purpose is fanservice (in this case BL is presume) than a plot with some fanservice elements.

You BL lovers can sing this animes praises, but please try and observe the plot instead, this was around 10-15% plot the rest was just meaningless fanservice, and in some cases it seemed kind of forced, Shion could have waited for Nezumi to return he's used to that after all, instead of rushing to the play where Nezumi coincidentally collapses.

The dancing scene seemed out of place, since there was many other ways Nezumi could have gotten his point across.

In general I managed to give this a 4/5 somehow, only because I got to see Safu 8-) nah that isn't the reason but still, Safu logical as ever "showing your desire to reproduce" god that sounds like a robots way of speaking, but at the same time I don't particularly hate her for it, poor Safu's grandma, and NOOO she collapased, Nezumi did too I guess.


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I'm no fujoshi, but I don't see how ANYONE now -- after seeing this episode -- can deny the obvious sexual tension and connection between Shion and Nezumi. This is a clearly gay show, and homophobes or people who want to cover their ears and eyes at any romantic development to Shion and Nezumi's relationship will just have to accept that. Let's think about it... If one of them were a girl, no one would be saying "oh they're just close friends."

Anyway, I'm sure people will go crazy over Nezumi playing Ophelia and being in a dress -- which may or may not be symbolic -- but it's a rather archaic tradition for Shakespeare performances to be all male. Hopefully most are aware of this. Even so, quite a strange scene to see Shion get weirdly protective of Nezumi. I'm guessing something odd happened to him after he nearly died.

I hope the plot picks up now that Shion has shown this odd side. This show IS only 11 episodes after all. Seems to be moving a bit slowly.
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Taksun said:
gryfynder said:
People keep alluding to the No.6 novel(s). Does anyone know where an English translated version could be purchased. The novel sounds amazing and I feel like I'm missing out.


There currently isn't an English translated version you can buy, but online translations (yet to be complete) can be found at http://ninteenpointzerofour.wordpress.com/tag/no-6/


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Haven't any of you ever heard of a helpful little thing called google?


The Wordpress link doesn't work on my browser. Googleing it also didn't help. is there any online Japanese version? anything that is complete & can be read or downloaded online? Though I guess I won't be that lucky...

I think I won't survive until next episode! I checked spoiler tags, but they made me more curious.
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I liked this episode, but I have a bad feeling about Nezumi, looks like the end of this show will be a sad one.
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Aug 5, 2011 12:44 PM
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Have to disagree with the comments bashing fangirls to see them any more as friends. I think there is a LOT to suggest that it is going more than that. It is almost hard to NOT see any hints with Sion practically confessing feelings every episode and Nezumi inwardly going on about how Sion is effecting him and etc. Also from what I know
and maybe a once I could see it possibly getting away with it but not twice. Unless the Anime cuts out of course. O_O I hope not! So no, I don't think anyone is being stupid at all. By the way it is heading right now. The outcome of more than friendship looks increasingly likely right now.
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When they were dancing at the end, I couldn't help but picture Shion falling on top of Shion and being 3 centimeters away from kissing. Hah.

The relationship between to two of them is really confusing for me. They met awhile
back and Shion saved Nezumi. They meet again and Nezumi saves Shion.
They obviously would feel thankful towards the other person and become friends...but their relationship doesn't seem like "friendship" at times. Nezumi is very distant and from my understanding finds Shion annoying and quite bothersome so he acts cold towards Shion when really he's just putting on an act because he really cares about him.
Shion is clearly passionate about Nezumi and never thinks badly of him. He basically confessed his "feelings" to Nezumi a billion times by now. I can tell that Shion admires him...maybe a little too much. I mean, Nezumi's really cool and all but you know what I mean...

Anyways, seeing Nezumi play Ophelia and "cross-dressing" didn't really make me gasp or anything. He is a pretty boy, xD but I really wanna see Shion as one even though...he basically looks like one now.
I also understand how in Shakespeare all of the woman were played by adolescent men. It sends shivers down my spine when I think about it happening in "real life" but in anime...mehh..not so much.

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Have to disagree with the comments bashing fangirls to see them any more as friends. I think there is a LOT to suggest that it is going more than that. It is almost hard to NOT see any hints with Sion practically confessing feelings every episode and Nezumi inwardly going on about how Sion is effecting him and etc. Also from what I know
and maybe a once I could see it possibly getting away with it but not twice. Unless the Anime cuts out of course. O_O I hope not! So no, I don't think anyone is being stupid at all. By the way it is heading right now. The outcome of more than friendship looks increasingly likely right now.


Haha there are few guys here who are actually bashing fangirls for thinking it's going on, it's more the over obssession over the pairing and the fact that the plot takes second fiddle to the BL moments, which the anime is contributing to, not enough plot, instead it seems the directors are trying to go for the BL angle whilst keeping the original plot, I'll still watch this but I dislike the fact that this thread has few people discussing the points of the episode that had plot yet didn't involve their precious BL.

Sorry fangirls I don't mean to insult you (in a way I do since I am willing to post this) but maybe you should also focus on the plot and not only mention that this show has a plot when it is to combat those who are too sexually insecure/(super heterosexual?) about the whole BL element to the extent that they drop it.

Heres a small example whilst not following or containing any actual quotations, it is basically what fangirls have been saying all along.

Guy: Dropping this too much Bromance/BL for me

Fangirl: OMG YOU ARE SO IMMATURE THIS SHOW HAS A PLOT TOO!!!

but you never mention the plot otherwise (of course this doesn't apply for a few of you)

sorry for the rant :D


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Am I the only one who see this anime is turning to shonen-ai anime ?!!
it surprised me because there is nothing but sci-fi in MAL genres :|
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Valentiln said:
Btw, the progress of the infection in other victims seems more accelerated/different than Sion's. Or I am just looking too much in to it.
No you are not. I'm thinking maybe cause Nezumi is holding Shion down on the bed, that's why it was controlled? I want to see another victim getting save and hope they explain.
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I agree that the girls squealing may be a little too overexcited, and sure the shounen-ai hints have nothing to do with the plot but it does have something to do with the characters and character development.

The fangirls are expressing how they feel about the anime (example: OMGG DID YOU SEE WHEN NEZUMI TOUCHED SHION'S HAIR?!?! KYAA~ IT WAS SO MAGICAL MY HART WUS BEATING LIEK CRAZYYY~~ *___*)

What you feel is part of your opinion as well so people shouldn't bash others just because of their opinion or how they feel about it. You're free to say what you want.

Personally, I don't see the shounen-ai hints in this anime being a hindrance or being bothersome. It connects to the plot a bit since it deals with character and character development.
I do admit I read yaoi. Not regularly and I have seen a variety of shounen-ai animes but I immediately drop it if it has NO plot. Which is 89% of everything, by the way.

Anyways, I find that Nezumi has a caring side to him when he's around Shion. He always wants to protect him and he's always concerned about everything he does. It's not everyday you see two guys expressing that they would save each other at the cost of their own life no matter what, I find it amusing. He's usually such a cold guy who's always firing insults at people, but when he's around Shion you see a different side of him. Guys usually do show a different (sometimes 'softer') side of themselves when they're with a girl, as well.
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There seems to be three main, vocal, sides watching. People that what to freak out over what they think is BL, fangirls that go nuts over what they think is BL, and people that swear up and down that it is nothing more than friendship.

Frankly all three are getting really annoying at this point. Especially the 1st and 3rd groups. We're five episodes in now whatever your opinion about what the show is I think you are well aware of what to expect now. Get over it or move on. I don't mind BL myself and and sometimes like it but don't really care much about it either way here. If Shion and Nezumi are getting hot and bothered for each other isn't really the main point of the story. If they are, fine. If not, fine. I'm not so shallow I need to get worked up over things like that.

I'm more interested in forming opinions about characters based on personality and the like rather than looks. Which, of course, if why I don't like Nezumi. He treats Shion fine which is all well and good but still. The giddy dance in relation to the news of all those people dying is disgusting.
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This show is so gay, but the plot is win.

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EarlCiel said:
I agree that the girls squealing may be a little too overexcited, and sure the shounen-ai hints have nothing to do with the plot but it does have something to do with the characters and character development.

The fangirls are expressing how they feel about the anime (example: OMGG DID YOU SEE WHEN NEZUMI TOUCHED SHION'S HAIR?!?! KYAA~ IT WAS SO MAGICAL MY HART WUS BEATING LIEK CRAZYYY~~ *___*)

What you feel is part of your opinion as well so people shouldn't bash others just because of their opinion or how they feel about it. You're free to say what you want.

Personally, I don't see the shounen-ai hints in this anime being a hindrance or being bothersome. It connects to the plot a bit since it deals with character and character development.
I do admit I read yaoi. Not regularly and I have seen a variety of shounen-ai animes but I immediately drop it if it has NO plot. Which is 89% of everything, by the way.

Anyways, I find that Nezumi has a caring side to him when he's around Shion. He always wants to protect him and he's always concerned about everything he does. It's not everyday you see two guys expressing that they would save each other at the cost of their own life no matter what, I find it amusing. He's usually such a cold guy who's always firing insults at people, but when he's around Shion you see a different side of him. Guys usually do show a different (sometimes 'softer') side of themselves when they're with a girl, as well.


I didn't particularly bash, just highlighting how it's apparantly fair for the fangirls to bash the males who drop by calling them immature and that this has a plot but they never mention the plot nor do they seem to care, I also mentioned it doesnt apply for all of them, but I was just striking at the clear injustice between those who drop it because it has BL, only for those who care nothing about the plot and only the BL to rant at them saying the show has a plot, hypocritical I say! (and you said you are free to say how you feel.... apparantly the fangirls disagree especially in previous episode threads)

About guys acting softer with girls, that often only applies to girls they like or girls they really want to get into bed with, a lot of the time a guy won't conciously go out of his way to do it unless it has some alternative motive that doesn't mean guys are insensitive or scheming, it's just a softer side really isn't something they like to show often (mainly because you start to be mocked because of it), why am I mentioning this? Ah because it's clear what the relationship is going to be at the end, and that Nezumi is conciously going out of his way to be nicer to Shion or be softer, well sometimes it's unconciously but the motive behind it is the same, I have no problem admitting this will turn out being BL despite being straight.

Crap i've ended up turning this into a rant, I'm sorry, this isn't aimed at you, it's more because I got annoyed that fangirls can rant at guys dropping for the only reason they watch it, I guess I should mention that this doesn't apply to all BL lovers, only the obssessive ones, like someone from the previous episode thread (episode 4) who said Safu should die, no reason behind it besides being a threat to Nezumi x Shion, she wasn't even in episode 4 yet it still came up.

urgh, I can see myself being virtualy mutilated by angry fangirls who match the criteria above, maybe I should hide in a cave somewhere.... with anime accompanying me of course 8-)


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Haha there are few guys here who are actually bashing fangirls for thinking it's going on, it's more the over obssession over the pairing and the fact that the plot takes second fiddle to the BL moments, which the anime is contributing to, not enough plot, instead it seems the directors are trying to go for the BL angle whilst keeping the original plot, I'll still watch this but I dislike the fact that this thread has few people discussing the points of the episode that had plot yet didn't involve their precious BL.

Sorry fangirls I don't mean to insult you (in a way I do since I am willing to post this) but maybe you should also focus on the plot and not only mention that this show has a plot when it is to combat those who are too sexually insecure/(super heterosexual?) about the whole BL element to the extent that they drop it.

Heres a small example whilst not following or containing any actual quotations, it is basically what fangirls have been saying all along.

Guy: Dropping this too much Bromance/BL for me

Fangirl: OMG YOU ARE SO IMMATURE THIS SHOW HAS A PLOT TOO!!!

but you never mention the plot otherwise (of course this doesn't apply for a few of you)

sorry for the rant :D


Jeez im becoming boring with my huge posts aint i? Gomenassai XP first and foresmost, let me say i respect yours opinions, but i do not agree with some things you say.



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Btw, the progress of the infection in other victims seems more accelerated/different than Sion's. Or I am just looking too much in to it.
No you are not. I'm thinking maybe cause Nezumi is holding Shion down on the bed, that's why it was controlled? I want to see another victim getting save and hope they explain.


i dunno why but i do believe Shion must have some special "immunity" or something like that...it would be a hypothesis... because the others didnt got a tattoo like him when they were aging...

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This show is so gay, but the plot is win.

<---Safu fan. Suck it.


A fellow Safu fan, hurray!

Oh and Tanrin I couldn't agree more however there is a fourth side, those who like to point out the flaws of all the different sides yet has no problem with the anime at all, and that of course is me, the defender of the rabid OMG THIS IS BL I CAN'T WATCH group, which I am a part of, A neutral in all aspects yet I at this moment in time am defending those with no voice because the fangirls won't let them talk.

Oh finally Tanrin you are probably biased, being used to BL unlike most of the guys who are dropping means that you are immune to the fangirls having a yaoigasm over this show, especially since you enjoy it at times (not the yaoigasm the BL), just let the haters complain, the fangirls will defend this show and then I will stand up for the haters, see what a nice guy I am.

I do agree about Nezumi though, dancing happilly over mass deaths is very sick, to be honest if I was Shion I'd use my influence I have over Nezumi to try and stop him from being so ummm freaky with his homicidal thoughts, of course that wouldn't work, but still I'd try, but Shion is kind of a doormat most of the time.

Well that enough for now :)


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@Kelarie: You´re welcome^.^


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Haha there are few guys here who are actually bashing fangirls for thinking it's going on, it's more the over obssession over the pairing and the fact that the plot takes second fiddle to the BL moments, which the anime is contributing to, not enough plot, instead it seems the directors are trying to go for the BL angle whilst keeping the original plot, I'll still watch this but I dislike the fact that this thread has few people discussing the points of the episode that had plot yet didn't involve their precious BL.

Sorry fangirls I don't mean to insult you (in a way I do since I am willing to post this) but maybe you should also focus on the plot and not only mention that this show has a plot when it is to combat those who are too sexually insecure/(super heterosexual?) about the whole BL element to the extent that they drop it.

Heres a small example whilst not following or containing any actual quotations, it is basically what fangirls have been saying all along.

Guy: Dropping this too much Bromance/BL for me

Fangirl: OMG YOU ARE SO IMMATURE THIS SHOW HAS A PLOT TOO!!!

but you never mention the plot otherwise (of course this doesn't apply for a few of you)

sorry for the rant :D


Jeez im becoming boring with my huge posts aint i? Gomenassai XP first and foresmost, let me say i respect yours opinions, but i do not agree with some things you say.



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Valentiln said:
Btw, the progress of the infection in other victims seems more accelerated/different than Sion's. Or I am just looking too much in to it.
No you are not. I'm thinking maybe cause Nezumi is holding Shion down on the bed, that's why it was controlled? I want to see another victim getting save and hope they explain.


i dunno why but i do believe Shion must have some special "immunity" or something like that...it would be a hypothesis... because the others didnt got a tattoo like him when they were aging...


Haha I totally understand, you have made a grave mistake though, I don't hate Yaoi, never said I hated it, I just don't enjoy it because it is not my personal preference, I also have zero intention of dropping.

Now my point seems muddled, I understand that now, my only point is that I dislike how these threads are becoming full of only fangirls having massive BL fits, I come on here to discuss the episode which becomes impossible due to no-one speaking of the plot really which turns this into basically a shipping thread. (and yes you begrudgingly have a point that the pairings are part of the episode but pairings eventually take it's toll, the improvement of a relationship whilst strengthening the emotional factor of an anime is true, when it's done to such an extent will kill off the plot) I do understand that if there is a pairing you love you will discuss, however it hits a limit.

The plot itself should be discussed too, I will admit when i've mentioned pairings I like I have spoken about them and then the episode but it doesn't really tend to happen on this thread, only BL screams but no discussion, this may be because I am not part of the BL/Yaoi community, I have no intention to be, however my original comment page 4 has me talking about the episode and then someone had to clearly on this page talk about bashing fangirls, which never happened so I reacted on impulse to try and negate this threat!

I also understand that there was little plot I said so on page 4, my main points above were mainly highlighting the difference between the people who drop this for BL and those who only watch it for BL, the only ones who are prosecuted and bashed are those who drop, so someone had to say a word for them.

I do admit if it was Safu (being a girl) she would get more comments from non-BL fans because obviously she is a girl, its all about preference, I never really intend to bash, just defend and that comes out in an insulting way far from my original intentions.

I have a problem with your bash the haters comment, for one little reason, you've highlighted that you like Yaoi perfectly fine by me, but this is an opinion and a belief, people havent bashed, they have said their opinions, BL lovers take this out of context and call them immature and are bashing, this is not bashing the haters, this is attacking people for their beliefs, if they were hating on the plot then it would be a different matter, in the end theres no right or wrong in regards to what you prefer, I never claimed as such, I just wished to stand up for those being bashed, by 'Haters of those who dislike BL' does this make me in the wrong or right you make your decision, but I for one don't particularly care.

Sorry for this long reply, feel free to reply if you want, I'm only replying now because it's nice to finally see someone with a viable argument and I do agree with most of what you say, just try to imagine yourself in the shoes of someone who cannot stand yaoi/bl before you start arguing, just as I will try to imagine myself in the shoes of a BL fan 'shudder' this doesn't mean I'm going to go see Junjou Romantica just because I'll try to imagine being their shoes mind you :)


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Oh and Tanrin I couldn't agree more however there is a fourth side, those who like to point out the flaws of all the different sides yet has no problem with the anime at all, and that of course is me, the defender of the rabid OMG THIS IS BL I CAN'T WATCH group, which I am a part of, A neutral in all aspects yet I at this moment in time am defending those with no voice because the fangirls won't let them talk.

Oh finally Tanrin you are probably biased, being used to BL unlike most of the guys who are dropping means that you are immune to the fangirls having a yaoigasm over this show, especially since you enjoy it at times (not the yaoigasm the BL), just let the haters complain, the fangirls will defend this show and then I will stand up for the haters, see what a nice guy I am.

I do agree about Nezumi though, dancing happilly over mass deaths is very sick, to be honest if I was Shion I'd use my influence I have over Nezumi to try and stop him from being so ummm freaky with his homicidal thoughts, of course that wouldn't work, but still I'd try, but Shion is kind of a doormat most of the time.

Well that enough for now :)


Yeah, I'm a part of the fourth side as well. Don't like the way Nezumi is but it doesn't detract from the show itself. I probably have a higher tolerance to fangirls than some, that's true, but I'm not exactly immune. Why I listed them as one of the three annoying groups in the first place. Can take whatever in moderation but when things start to get really excessive then it bothers me. Excessively rabid fans of any genre can be annoying, honestly.

Anyway, back to Nezumi and Shion. I actually expect Shion to use what influence he has to turned Nezumi around a little and soften him up some. Directly or indirectly, don't know. Will probably happen, though. Would be happy if it did. A positive turn around in any character can be nice to watch as long as it's done well.
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SkyHigh said:
Sorry for this long reply, feel free to reply if you want, I'm only replying now because it's nice to finally see someone with a viable argument and I do agree with most of what you say, just try to imagine yourself in the shoes of someone who cannot stand yaoi/bl before you start arguing, just as I will try to imagine myself in the shoes of a BL fan 'shudder' this doesn't mean I'm going to go see Junjou Romantica just because I'll try to imagine being their shoes mind you :)




my huge posts end up here, i think i already posted enough huge comments~~~

anyway, cant wait for next ep!
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my huge posts end up here, i think i already posted enough huge comments~~~

anyway, cant wait for next ep!


Nice to know, however I recommend you edit the post and remove your part from the quote box, since it seems like Im saying what you said in your current message lol, just a suggestion :), I don't mind you fangirling, it's fine just a little plot discussion would be nice but I'm not expecting such a positive outcome :(

Tanrim do you really think Nezumi will get over his hatred for No.6 clearly there is something that he isn't telling us that contributes to his hatred, I think part of why both Safu and Nezumi collapsed could be the reason, and that it's tied in with that tower in No.6.

This too is the end of my long posts but I will continue to discuss but I'll try not to "argue" as long as people stop bashing on those who wish to drop :)


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OMG!! I LOVED this episode!<3

The dance scene was so adorable, ha Shion was so stiff and surprised xD So cute~

I especially loved the very end of the episode, Shion telling Nezumi that nothing scares him more than the thought of losing him and that hes the one person he couldnt bare to lose. That made me smile so much^^
Also when Nezumi was wondering why he let Shion touch him like that:)

Can't wait for the next episode!


I feel the same way. I don't dislike Safu, but if she gets in between them, then I'm gonna have the urge to bash her, its just instinct you know. I mean this episode just showed me how well Nezumi and Shion are together. Their made for each other, at least to me. If she gets in the way it'll ruin everything between them. I hope there's more Shion and Nezumi to keep me smiling like a fool.
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Tanrim do you really think Nezumi will get over his hatred for No.6 clearly there is something that he isn't telling us that contributes to his hatred, I think part of why both Safu and Nezumi collapsed could be the reason, and that it's tied in with that tower in No.6.


Don't really expect him to stop hating the power behind the city but the innocent people that probably don't have anything to do with what he's so mad about, maybe. So far the every day citizen really doesn't seem to be guilty of much other than ignorance which last I checked isn't a capital offense. We'll have to wait and see, though.
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Shit, they need to kiss already. The dancing and touching of ~pressure points~ can only keep me satisfied for so long.

I'm going to be a fangirling mess by the last episode, I just know it.. Ugh, why only 11 episodes?
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Safu is my last hope for this show. It will be dropped next episode if she doesn't become a prominent character.
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Safu is my last hope for this show. It will be dropped next episode if she doesn't become a prominent character.


If that is your one demand then you're going to be dropping the show...

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Safu does get a "somewhat" relevant part in the show. Just doesn't end for her on a "happy-yay-yay-partyyyyyyyyy" note for her. xD;;
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