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Jun 12, 2014 8:42 PM
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Kaguya just seems to powerful for even naruto and sasuke
I'm now really interested in kayuga I want to know more of her story other than the things we already know
and why is sakura with them anyways? She's a drag unless kishi is planing to use her for something...
Jun 13, 2014 12:35 AM

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Behemoth11 said:
I don't really care about those 'ass pulls' like Kaguyas appearance and so on, but to understand the plot I need an explanation from the author.
For example why Sasuke has gotten a red and only one Rinnegan. And why the hell didn't notice anyone that kind of difference and still declare it as a Rinnegan.
What's with Kuro Zetsu= Kaguyas will, we have seen in chapter 606 that Madara created Kuro Zetsu

Sure, unanswered question keeps the plot interesting, but currently it doesn't make sense at all.
Kishimoto shouldn't focus on irrelevances like in chapter 680. :/



I am sure there will be an explanation in due time. If kishimoto is good at one thing, its resolving answers and tying things up conclusively, rather if the execution is not that great. He still answers pretty much every readers burning questions.

There were so many incidents where we were just totally and completely lost in the manga and had no idea what the hell was going on but later on he did give us explanations behind it all. Most notably the reasons behind obito's decent into madness.



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link9us said:
Behemoth11 said:
I don't really care about those 'ass pulls' like Kaguyas appearance and so on, but to understand the plot I need an explanation from the author.
For example why Sasuke has gotten a red and only one Rinnegan. And why the hell didn't notice anyone that kind of difference and still declare it as a Rinnegan.
What's with Kuro Zetsu= Kaguyas will, we have seen in chapter 606 that Madara created Kuro Zetsu

Sure, unanswered question keeps the plot interesting, but currently it doesn't make sense at all.
Kishimoto shouldn't focus on irrelevances like in chapter 680. :/



I am sure there will be an explanation in due time. If kishimoto is good at one thing, its resolving answers and tying things up conclusively, rather if the execution is not that great. He still answers pretty much every readers burning questions.

There were so many incidents where we were just totally and completely lost in the manga and had no idea what the hell was going on but later on he did give us explanations behind it all. Most notably the reasons behind obito's decent into madness.

Main reason Obito fell into madness is because of his childhood crush. Give me a break already...
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Jun 14, 2014 1:25 AM

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My thesis:

http://s1.directupload.net/images/140614/24mt2k9e.jpg


Don't you think it can't be a accident that Hagormo has those 'tatoo' on his forehead? I think, that's
seal. At first, Hagoromo had a Rinnegan like Sasuke and the other one too. The red Rinnegan holds an affinity to Genjutsu the other one to Ninjutsu. To stop the Mugen Tsukuyomi of his mother, Kaguya Ootsutsuki, Hagoromo used the power of his red Rinnegan. Afterwards that eye was sealed. That will happen with Sasuke too.
Jun 14, 2014 2:43 AM

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Behemoth11 said:
My thesis:

http://s1.directupload.net/images/140614/24mt2k9e.jpg


Don't you think it can't be a accident that Hagormo has those 'tatoo' on his forehead? I think, that's
seal. At first, Hagoromo had a Rinnegan like Sasuke and the other one too. The red Rinnegan holds an affinity to Genjutsu the other one to Ninjutsu. To stop the Mugen Tsukuyomi of his mother, Kaguya Ootsutsuki, Hagoromo used the power of his red Rinnegan. Afterwards that eye was sealed. That will happen with Sasuke too.


But if the truth is this is the duo pair Nardo - Sauce, Hashirama - Madara, Ashura - Indra.
Then there must be something happened to Hagoromo's brother Hamura, especially Kaguya mentioned him. So that Sasuke = Hagoromo is too rushed conclusion.

For the joke anyway, do you mean that Sasuke left eye will be replaced by "tatoo" in the eyes instead??? XD
Jun 14, 2014 3:46 AM

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I didn't say that Sasuke= Hagoromo. Sasuke is one half of Hagormo. However, Sasuke said a Rinnegan can cancel the genjutsu of another Rinnegan. It's also my belief that Sasuke will change to Hagoromos Rinnegan- if he can handle Hagormos chakra better. Otherwise it woudn't make much sense. :/
In my opinion Sasuke will lose his red Rinnegan and achieve the same 'tatoo' as Hagoromo on his forehead.
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Behemoth11 said:
I didn't say that Sasuke= Hagoromo. Sasuke is one half of Hagormo. However, Sasuke said a Rinnegan can cancel the genjutsu of another Rinnegan. It's also my belief that Sasuke will change to Hagoromos Rinnegan- if he can handle Hagormos chakra better. Otherwise it woudn't make much sense. :/
In my opinion Sasuke will lose his red Rinnegan and achieve the same 'tatoo' as Hagoromo on his forehead.


Then that very much weird. As Sauce himself is only half of "hagoromo". And that Rinnegan on his left eye actually Hagoromo's(or let's take that what should it been) as he receive it from Hagoromo. The question why it's not become a third eye like Madara or Kaguya was because the other half of Hagoromo goes to Nardo.

If we go by that, then Hagoromo power should have something to do with Hamura. Since Kaguya is the original of that "juubi" bearer, probably we can assumes that Kaguya's power inherent is splitting to Hagoromo and Hamura just like what happened to Ashura and Indra and now that condition is similar to Nardo and Sauce.

If we play by Nardo will die and give the other half to Sauce, then your theory is plausible, though.
Jun 14, 2014 3:58 PM

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before I want Naruto to get more Jutsu and now he has too many Jutsu and too random.

Jun 14, 2014 8:21 PM

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This was another sick Naruto chapter. Naruto's been so exciting, I'm loving these action packed chapters. I'm really loving Sasuke now, first time in like 7 years lol. I'm glad Sakura finally acknowledged Naruto when she thanked him after Sasuke bashed her and Kakashi lol. As mean as it was, it's true Naruto and Sasuke are more important than Sakura and Kakashi and if they die, there's no hope. I liked Kakashi saving Obito and when he apologized for hurting him with the kunai lol. Kaguya's much more quieter than Madara and Obito who always had long monologues and talked frequently. I miss Madara though and I hope he comes back, his exit from Naruto wasn't good enough for me. I wish Naruto and Sasuke beat Madara then Kaguya debuted, oh well at least Kaguya is somewhat interesting... We still need more Madara. Great chapter, very entertaining I always have an itch to read the new Naruto chapters and this one didn't disappoint 5/5. Congratulations to Naruto for reaching 680 chapters!


Jun 15, 2014 1:16 PM
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Confused about what Naruto's response to Sasuke was...the whole "body moving by itself" and Sakura thanking Naruto for it. Somebody please clarify
Jun 16, 2014 2:00 PM
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I do agree that Madara was poorly handled in the previous chapter, tainting this chapter somewhat. However, my main concern is the need for white Zetsu 'soldiers'. Now it could just be a minor thing, but I feel concerned that this series could drag on for another arc after this with some sort of invasion of divine creatures/aliens that the Zetsu Army was meant to oppose. This also leads to the possibility that the Sage's brother might be part of said invasion as an antagonist (giving a reason for why we know nothing about him until now).

I personally feel that this would be a bad move for the story to keep going after all of these rapid power-ups, making things too reliant on even more ridiculous deus ex machina twists over and over again to allow the heroes to win. Of course this is just wild speculation right now, but I just wanted to give my opinion on the possibility of it happening.

On another note, is anyone else wondering if the shadow of Madara that Naruto sealed before Madara got both of his eyes dissipated like the others or if it is still around to interfere later on in the plot?
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Confused about what Naruto's response to Sasuke was...the whole "body moving by itself" and Sakura thanking Naruto for it. Somebody please clarify

Back in the first mission of team 7. Naruto and Sasuke were fighting Haku. As the fight took time, Naruto collapsed and Sasuke had to protect him, which he did by guarding Naruto with his own body, later on Naruto screamed that he didn't want any help from Sasuke and Sasuke said that His body moved on his own to protect Naruto ( true friendship there). I think this is it. Have a good day guys.!
Jun 18, 2014 2:53 AM

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I never noticed that Madora or Obito could fly. And if I did, I just thought it was a still shot of them staying in the air for dramatic effect to make them look cool, not them actually flying.


To be honest, it wouldn't have seemed like an asspull to have Naruto fly if he used the wings of the seven tailed beast that's sealed inside of him. Or am I just missing something?
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I never noticed that Madora or Obito could fly. And if I did, I just thought it was a still shot of them staying in the air for dramatic effect to make them look cool, not them actually flying.


To be honest, it wouldn't have seemed like an asspull to have Naruto fly if he used the wings of the seven tailed beast that's sealed inside of him. Or am I just missing something?


Actually the first one shown to fly was the TSUCHIKAGE.

Both Oonoki and Mu had this ability too but it seems a lot of people missed it. IIRC the first Tsuchikage can also use this technique. The third Hokage also noted that Obito's black ball (the one that negated all ninjutsu) works similarly to Dust Release except more high level.

It seems that both Oonoki and Mu created these jutsu based on the same theory as the original jutsu possessed by Hagoromo. It merely confirmed that both the flight jutsu and Dust Release were originated from his Yang technique and since Naruto inherited Hagoromo's Yang power, it makes sense that he can fly just like Oonoki and Mu.
Jun 24, 2014 10:47 PM

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these last chaps....so lame
Jun 30, 2014 7:17 AM

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What the fuck is happening?!
Kaguya out of thin air? Another dimension? Sakura reverting back to a useless Sasuke groupie? Naruto fucking flying ffs?!

Come on, Kishi. Come on.
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fairly boring chapter IMO, aside from Kakashi's excellent save.



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I need to ask something regarding this chapter and chapters prior to this.

In one of the panel, Sasuke mentioned about Naruto having near to Sakura and Kakashi during Infinite Tsukuyomi.

What does this mean? Did Sasuke reminds Naruto of his temporary comatose state or something else?

Oh god. I hate Kishimoto's choice of words in this panel. So fucking vague.
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They were sent to another dimension?
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kaguya is kind of lame. such a basic antagonist motive




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Feb 15, 2023 8:48 PM
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I'm waiting for another interview to find out just how much of these plot lines, did kishimoto-sensei actually know?

I get the feeling alot of this he just came up with on the spot. Usually if things are consistent with the plot line you will be able to see foreshadowing or hints towards some of these future events in past scenerio's but kaguya, ashura/indra, byakugan's true eye power and how its tied to the sharingen, none of this was ever forshadowed or hinted upon at all.

For example luffy has the "will of D", you know there is something special bout him, the way he wins fights all the time, its not just his fighting prowess but its also tied to his blood line and his legacy. Naruto on the hand never hinted towards him being another reincarnation. I think if kishimoto were to go with this kind of concept, he should of picked something that was at least forshadowed or hinted here and there through out the story.

The byakugan is another example, if he had shown certain moments in the story were the byakugan may have been stronger in some cases but with no clear explanation, this would of fit nicely, but alas there is nothing that hints towards this future development. I even tried to go back and look at certain early moments if the series to try and pick up on things but i couldn't find anything, infact some things even contradict to what is happening now.

My certain gripes with the manga currently.


I think Kishi did come up with this new stuff on the stop. Unless he actually decided to never forshadow hints of this in the first place and just end up revealing this in the end which would be weird to think about or consider.

I mean, he didn't even know how to kill off Madara, yet he created another and stronger villian. Like what are you thinking Kishi?

My mind will cease to comprehend until the events unravel.


See a chapters 526 and 626 (The moment of Hashirama seeing somebody spying your fight), and the moment when Shinju say to Madara incorporate him, mix that all facts, and make your conclusion...
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Really... The Byakugan have a great and unknowned abilities. The new Kishimoto work (Boruto) go to havin' a mission to explain the Byakugan, and a Ōtsutsuki's origins and proprierties. In my vision, this have a good function (in my vision).

Now, i read this chapter in volume 71 from a Brazilian Edition by The Panini Press co. (I'm from Brazil) and i don't have a enough understand The a Waves Arc reference, an observation by Sasuke in The case of Kakashi and Sakura...

For other side, Kaguya is a Very strong, but Kishimoto, not to do a right maintence about him. How to i say... Kaguya turns Into a Black Zetsu puppet... Don't have a certainly the full Control of your acts. This guide her tô your defeat, and to be a worst error from Kishimoto about your character...
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