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Foyfoy_Stormatix said: _Core said: Okay. I'm all in for renaming this thread "What does it feel like to be arrogant" now.It's horrible. The smarter you are the less you enjoy life. Dumb people don't realize shit and they can just "not care" about everything. Smart people can't ignore the universe so they suffer a lot, trust me. That was a arrogant comment, but I get the feeling you all think my comment was arrogant too. Changing the thread title was proposed right after I made my comment. |
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| Meanwhile all the intelligent people are trying to determine whether or not to respond to these recent comments with hostility, contempt, indifference, or acceptance. It isn't as if some of us didn't already perceive this outcome from the beginning, but it's also not as if those of us were attempting to bring anyone else down either. I'm just glad it took as long as it did for the aggression to break out. Some people jump high, some people shoot baskets, some people make money, and some people are understanding. Problem is, when you're athletic, everyone worships you. When you make money, you can buy friends. When you know more than normal, you can only hope you can talk to someone who knows the same things you do, and otherwise you're ostracized, picked on, or just lonely. You can't even count on talking to someone at the same intellectual level as you, because the things you understand might not be the same things they understand, and going the extra mile to understand what they do, just results in you knowing more, and the vicious cycle that has already presented itself, presents itself again. No one's even saying intelligent people are better. This topic itself is about the pros and cons of it. If I were to be mad over a soccer player earning lots of money, I should have been a soccer player. If people are angered at those who understand things, they should make that extra effort to understand those things. Or don't. No one is asking you to. |
| To respond to some of the general public here intelligence doesn't make you emo and lonely. Now then I wouldn't call myself a genius but I'm definitely at a higher level than some of my peers. I'm not what I'm suppose to feel exactly. Kimochi |
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Rasco said: You mean this entire thread? Not to be the skeptic but...there are definitely some floaty egos in here. But hey, it takes one to know one.Intelligent I'm not sure, but we are all smarter than someone else when it comes to certain things. It only gets out of proportion when we have self proclaimed intellects. |
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kingcity20 said: Oh for the love of -_- nvm gotta love MAL |
| This thread is a perfect example of illusory superiority |
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-Muuse- said: This thread is a perfect example of illusory superiority Wow, someone seems to think he's superior to everyone by thinking like that eh? |
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cupc said: -Muuse- said: This thread is a perfect example of illusory superiority Wow, someone seems to think he's superior to everyone by thinking like that eh? Fuck, you caught me. |
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Heredity said: i'm super intelligent, like every second my mind is going 'e=mc squared' Get on my level and immediately think afterwards; where e is energy, m is mass and c is the speed of light = 3*10^8 |
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_Core said: It's horrible. The smarter you are the less you enjoy life. Dumb people don't realize shit and they can just "not care" about everything. Smart people can't ignore the universe so they suffer a lot, trust me. Agreed. The smarter you are, the more questions you ask, the more your perceive things, the more you over-think things, and that makes life so frickin complicated, and it makes life painful. It also alienates you from the rest of society, as nowadays, you tend to see more people who are uneducated and drop out of education early than educated individuals. So you can't really relate yourself to them in many ways. |
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| Most people who are intelligent don't really believe that they are, probably because they're just being modest, but anyway, how could an intelligent person know what it's like to be intelligent if they don't even know what it's like to be dumb? They're used to being intelligent so they probably take it for granted, and don't realise how much of an advantage it really is, because they're used to getting good grades without trying hard or studying. |
Landmines said: Actually they're probably of about average intelligence, with some that are a little above average. Chances are if there are any geniuses, they won't be on this forum.Most of the people in this thread are just pretentious assholes who are dumb as fuck irl. But self-confidence is generally beneficial, so it's not necessarily a bad thing that some people think they're brilliant. |
Ange892 said: Most people who are intelligent don't really believe that they are, probably because they're just being modest, but anyway, how could an intelligent person know what it's like to be intelligent if they don't even know what it's like to be dumb? They're used to being intelligent so they probably take it for granted, and don't realise how much of an advantage it really is, because they're used to getting good grades without trying hard or studying. I agree upto that last part. Being intelligent doesn't exactly mean doing little or no studying or work. Throughout my middle school. I did 0 homework and studying, and still came out with pretty good results. I didn't notice how lucky I was to be naturally clever after I saw everyone else's results and how much work they put in. But to continue to be "intelligent' after that, you need to put work in I know, because I'm doing A Levels and no matter how clever you are, studying is essential for good grades. Agnostos said: Landmines said: Actually they're probably of about average intelligence, with some that are a little above average. Chances are if there are any geniuses, they won't be on this forum.Most of the people in this thread are just pretentious assholes who are dumb as fuck irl. But self-confidence is generally beneficial, so it's not necessarily a bad thing that some people think they're brilliant. I think it's generalising abit to say there's no geniuses on this forum. You never know, lol. And I don't see any reason why they wouldn't take interest in this forum.. |
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Landmines said: Most of the people in this thread are just pretentious assholes who are dumb as fuck irl. haha the amount of delusional people on here makes you cringe right? |
DearlyDie said: People tend to gravitate towards those who are of similar or higher intelligence. A genius would never feel that they fit in here. And to be recognized as a genius, someone has to devote a lot of their time to productive things, as opposed to watching anime or reading forums. At most there could be people who could've been recognized as geniuses, but won't be bothered to put forth the effort...but would that really be considered a genius?I think it's generalising abit to say there's no geniuses on this forum. You never know, lol. And I don't see any reason why they wouldn't take interest in this forum.. |
| Touchy thread... Anyway, I don't know if I'd qualify as "intelligent", but I certainly believe I'm at least slightly above average, relative to the definition of intelligence provided. What does it feel like for me? Well, I'll talk about my personal experiences. At an age where I'm still coming of age, belief in my intelligence has by and large fueled my willpower to face life's challenges. I've came to believe that I've severely overestimated myself in times of delusions, showing arrogance towards other people and isolating myself socially. The more I realized about human nature and myself, the less I felt any need to place emphasis on any high levels of intelligence I may have. The bottom line is, actions speak louder than words. Claiming intelligence mostly comes across as irritable to other people, as there exists a widespread notion that being more intelligent than someone is reasonable grounds for asserting your superiority as a human being - which is bullshit. Since it's impossible to judge the worth of a human being, subjective criteria such as 'higher intelligence' has no more credibility than who has more hairs on their head. Assuming and treating everyone as an equal is an agnostic measure to take when faced with a false dichotomy of "Is x person better than y person?", with answers of yes and no. Realizing the nature of subjectivity was the cornerstone factor in changing my attitude. I wouldn't say I wasted my time considering different perspectives and desperately trying to justify fallacious positions, as it's probably taught me some useful skills. I've seen a few interesting posts here, but this thread is so touchy that it's almost making me cringe. |
xEmptiness said: Zarbel said: My boss probably has a higher IQ than me but I could run his business better than him and that's a fact. Ugh, some of these comments make me cringe "I appreciate being able to understand the world around me better than most others, but I also get depressed over how people's stupidity is leading us towards the abyss." Well get of your ass and try to do something about it you worthless pile of crap. I hate talkers. Zarbel said: Landmines said: Most of the people in this thread are just pretentious assholes who are dumb as fuck irl. haha the amount of delusional people on here makes you cringe right? Yes, delusional people are so cringeworthy. Don't forget the hypocrites! herp derp well I could run my boss's company and my colleagues would easily put me in his position instead of him if they could choose. The thing is, the line of work has never interested me and I'm only in it for the money. I actually had a plan to take him down for a while but then someone found out "not saying any names" |
Agnostos said: DearlyDie said: People tend to gravitate towards those who are of similar or higher intelligence. A genius would never feel that they fit in here. And to be recognized as a genius, someone has to devote a lot of their time to productive things, as opposed to watching anime or reading forums. At most there could be people who could've been recognized as geniuses, but won't be bothered to put forth the effort...but would that really be considered a genius?I think it's generalising abit to say there's no geniuses on this forum. You never know, lol. And I don't see any reason why they wouldn't take interest in this forum.. Very good point. But it comes down to how you define a genius, and how strictly you use the term. If you use the term genius freely, referring to intelligent individuals, they may have as you said, not bothered to put forth the effort, but still outstanding academic capabilities, and that they may use spare time to watch anime etc, etc. So it's possible to have a genius fit into the forums through sharing an interest in anime. But like you said, is that considered a genius really?. It all comes down to how someone defines the term genius, and it what circumstances they are willing to class someone as such. |
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Foyfoy_Stormatix said: So... you told someone the plan to take down your shared boss? Shhh. They're listening... |
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Foyfoy_Stormatix said: He did something really bad but everyone else was too scared to go to the police about it. Because he liked me so much someone was like, "how could you?" I spared is mortal soul... |
DearlyDie said: Agnostos said: DearlyDie said: People tend to gravitate towards those who are of similar or higher intelligence. A genius would never feel that they fit in here. And to be recognized as a genius, someone has to devote a lot of their time to productive things, as opposed to watching anime or reading forums. At most there could be people who could've been recognized as geniuses, but won't be bothered to put forth the effort...but would that really be considered a genius?I think it's generalising abit to say there's no geniuses on this forum. You never know, lol. And I don't see any reason why they wouldn't take interest in this forum.. Very good point. But it comes down to how you define a genius, and how strictly you use the term. If you use the term genius freely, referring to intelligent individuals, they may have as you said, not bothered to put forth the effort, but still outstanding academic capabilities, and that they may use spare time to watch anime etc, etc. So it's possible to have a genius fit into the forums through sharing an interest in anime. But like you said, is that considered a genius really?. It all comes down to how someone defines the term genius, and it what circumstances they are willing to class someone as such. If a genius is defined as someone with an extraorbitantly high IQ, then there's probably a lot of them who have never channeled their talent into anything constructive as to be recognized by other people as such. I'm pretty sure the more intelligent you are, the more likely you are to suffer from depression, suicidal thoughts and other mental problems. And where would you find more of these people than on an anime forum? |
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Shiratori99 said: DearlyDie said: Agnostos said: DearlyDie said: People tend to gravitate towards those who are of similar or higher intelligence. A genius would never feel that they fit in here. And to be recognized as a genius, someone has to devote a lot of their time to productive things, as opposed to watching anime or reading forums. At most there could be people who could've been recognized as geniuses, but won't be bothered to put forth the effort...but would that really be considered a genius?I think it's generalising abit to say there's no geniuses on this forum. You never know, lol. And I don't see any reason why they wouldn't take interest in this forum.. Very good point. But it comes down to how you define a genius, and how strictly you use the term. If you use the term genius freely, referring to intelligent individuals, they may have as you said, not bothered to put forth the effort, but still outstanding academic capabilities, and that they may use spare time to watch anime etc, etc. So it's possible to have a genius fit into the forums through sharing an interest in anime. But like you said, is that considered a genius really?. It all comes down to how someone defines the term genius, and it what circumstances they are willing to class someone as such. If a genius is defined as someone with an extraorbitantly high IQ, then there's probably a lot of them who have never channeled their talent into anything constructive as to be recognized by other people as such. I'm pretty sure the more intelligent you are, the more likely you are to suffer from depression, suicidal thoughts and other mental problems. And where would you find more of these people than on an anime forum? Agreed. I think that's because as you become more intelligent, you understand the harsh reality of you being so insignificant among the other 7 billion inhabitants of Earth, and you eventually accept defeat by knowing no matter what you do, you'll hardly be able to change the world. Hence, you don't even bother to try. At least, that's my perspective lol. It's those who acknowledge this but try their hardest regardless that are remembered through history, people such as Einstein, who I pity, because despite how much of a genius he was, his talent was channeled into building a weapon of mass destruction... trust us humans to do something so stupid, haha. |
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Agnostos said: People tend to gravitate towards those who are of similar or higher intelligence. A genius would never feel that they fit in here. I disagree with this. Adolescents struggling to establish their identity may tend to gravitate towards those of similar intelligence, but when most of us find our place in society, I believe the intelligence of your peers is of minimal importance. We live in a world that utilizes a wide variety of skills and abilities, and the ability to retain positive relations with other people irrespective of their abilities or skill level is paramount. I believe everyone has something to offer everyone else through what they say and do. Having higher inborn talents than someone means shit to me in how I treat that person as a human being. People sometimes forget that we are all 'human' and that our feelings are not so different. "A genius would never fit in here" I'd suggest retracting this. |
xEmptiness said: Agnostos said: People tend to gravitate towards those who are of similar or higher intelligence. A genius would never feel that they fit in here. By that logic wouldn't it be difficult to find a genius anywhere? Even among professors, medical doctors and engineers, the average IQ would be around the 110-130 range, while most people classified as gifted or genius are much higher than that. I think we have to remember that not all genius' are alike lol. Some may feel superior to others, and hence, follow this logic. Whereas others may accept everyone as their equals and could be found anywhere you'd find normal people. They're not aliens to get the first ship back to cleverland because they're more intelligent than others. :p |
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Autocrat said: I would suggest the opposite, as younger people have less of a choice as to who their peers are. Yet interacting with others on a forum is entirely voluntary, and having positive relations with people here has very little meaning.Adolescents struggling to establish their identity may tend to gravitate towards those of similar intelligence, but when most of us find our place in society, I believe the intelligence of your peers is of minimal importance. We live in a world that utilizes a wide variety of skills and abilities, and the ability to retain positive relations with other people irrespective of their abilities or skill level is paramount. xEmptiness said: Yes, geniuses aren't exactly common. I suppose that they have only limited relevance to this thread, anyway.Agnostos said: People tend to gravitate towards those who are of similar or higher intelligence. A genius would never feel that they fit in here. By that logic wouldn't it be difficult to find a genius anywhere? Even among professors, medical doctors and engineers, the average IQ would be around the 110-130 range, while most people classified as gifted or genius are much higher than that. |
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xEmptiness said: No, it's asking about the effects of intelligence in general. A genius isn't necessary, as you can just compare people who are above average intelligence to people who are lower. However, a genius would certainly make those differences clearer.Limited relevance? But this thread is about asking geniuses how they feel about stuff. :L |
ThisNameSucks said: Feels gud man I guess we now know who's not a genius :> |
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DearlyDie said: lrn 2 sarcasm manThisNameSucks said: Feels gud man I guess we now know who's not a genius :> |
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ThisNameSucks said: DearlyDie said: lrn 2 sarcasm manThisNameSucks said: Feels gud man I guess we now know who's not a genius :> T'was a joke foo. |
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Agnostos said: I would suggest the opposite, as younger people have less of a choice as to who their peers are. Yet interacting with others on a forum is entirely voluntary, and having positive relations with people here has very little meaning. We're playing around generalizations here. And we have no statistical evidence. So agree to disagree. Also, you can't judge how much meaning having positive relations has on people. I was kind of taking things out of context, but I do agree that on average there are less negative consequences to being an asshole on the internet as opposed to IRL. |
| I hear intelligence is often linked with depression, and it's not hard to see why. Knowing that, I'm not sure I'd want to be more intelligent than I already am. Honestly, I feel intelligent, but not as intelligent as others such as Turtle, so I couldn't tell you what it feels like. |
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Dark_Chaos said: I hear intelligence is often linked with depression, and it's not hard to see why. Knowing that, I'm not sure I'd want to be more intelligent than I already am. Honestly, I feel intelligent, but not as intelligent as others such as Turtle, so I couldn't tell you what it feels like. I wonder if that's why I'm constantly depressed :_: |
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Agnostos said: DearlyDie said: People tend to gravitate towards those who are of similar or higher intelligence. A genius would never feel that they fit in here. And to be recognized as a genius, someone has to devote a lot of their time to productive things, as opposed to watching anime or reading forums. At most there could be people who could've been recognized as geniuses, but won't be bothered to put forth the effort...but would that really be considered a genius?I think it's generalising abit to say there's no geniuses on this forum. You never know, lol. And I don't see any reason why they wouldn't take interest in this forum.. So you're saying one can be a genius only, if his hair looks like a bird nest and he spends all of his time in a underground lab pondering for the meaning of life? Uhh no. Or that's when you're not a genius anymore, you're simply being mad. Being intelligent can mean many things; taking care of yourself and having fun, for an example, is one being intelligent too. |
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| Even though some people here say that people who claim here that they are intelligent are irl dumb. I feel like most of mal users are pretty intelligent at least compared to many other online communities. |
Heredity said: i Chill_ said: i'd rate my intelligence somewhere between avacado and 2-year-old.Even though some people here say that people who claim that they are intelligent are irl dumb. I feel like most of mal users are pretty intelligent at least compared to many other online communities. There are exceptions to everything, you may rest in peace. |
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Chill_ said: Even though some people here say that people who claim here that they are intelligent are irl dumb. I feel like most of mal users are pretty intelligent at least compared to many other online communities. Agreed. Intelligent enough to use proper grammar and spelling anyway. Even the trolls and idiots here know how to spell. It's a miracle I tell ya. Plus we get no bumps or double posts. |
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cupc said: Since when does doing productive things mean you're a mad recluse? All you're doing is putting your own spin on my words. Agnostos said: And to be recognized as a genius, someone has to devote a lot of their time to productive things, as opposed to watching anime or reading forums. So you're saying one can be a genius only, if his hair looks like a bird nest and he spends all of his time in a underground lab pondering for the meaning of life? Uhh no. Or that's when you're not a genius anymore, you're simply being mad. Being intelligent can mean many things; taking care of yourself and having fun, for an example, is one being intelligent too. In order to accomplish something of significance, one would still only have minimal time leftover to spend on recreational activities; thus the most successful ones would be the ones who enjoy their research, since it would be a self-sustaining motive. |
Agnostos said: cupc said: Since when does doing productive things mean you're a mad recluse? All you're doing is putting your own spin on my words. Agnostos said: And to be recognized as a genius, someone has to devote a lot of their time to productive things, as opposed to watching anime or reading forums. So you're saying one can be a genius only, if his hair looks like a bird nest and he spends all of his time in a underground lab pondering for the meaning of life? Uhh no. Or that's when you're not a genius anymore, you're simply being mad. Being intelligent can mean many things; taking care of yourself and having fun, for an example, is one being intelligent too. In order to accomplish something of significance, one would still only have minimal time leftover to spend on recreational activities; thus the most successful ones would be the ones who enjoy their research, since it would be a self-sustaining motive. It's true that one has to be productive, of course. But that doesn't change the fact that saying that geniuses don't have time to browse them internets is a too big of a generalization. I was aggravating a little, to bring up the point. |
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Agnostos said: In order to accomplish something of significance, one would still only have minimal time leftover to spend on recreational activities; thus the most successful ones would be the ones who enjoy their research, since it would be a self-sustaining motive. Firstly, it is entirely false that in order to accomplish anything of significance you must spend minimal time on recreational activities. This is tautologous to saying you must dedicate a vast portion of your time to work, as by definition, recreation means: "Not for work: done or used for pleasure or relaxation rather than work" - and of course, if something is not x then it is not-x. In other words, the remainder of the time would logically have to be spent on work. Your first assertion here is obviously false, as significance is relative. I think it's been proven enough that a balanced lifestyle promotes self-sustainability, but your argument here is factually wrong and thus practically meaningless. |
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