| Regardless if they deserved to die or not, they still are individuals that most normal people would avoid if they knew what they have being doing.They arent criminals but they arent likeable either. Makoto was literally playing with multiple girls for no good reason at all. Nothing can actually justify that. He deserves the hate he gets. goldslash said: tsudecimo said: Just now I read a couple of comments from old chapters of Naruto, because someone is reading the manga and leaving their comments. Anyway. Sasuke seems to be so misunderstood. I think he is without a doubt one of the most unjustly hated characters. I agree, some people don't know Sasuke and start hating him... He had some reasons to do what he had to do...Also, he is better character than Obito. He was fine, even with his obsession but when he |
ssjokgMay 25, 2014 10:20 AM
ssjokg said: Makoto was literally playing with multiple girls for no good reason at all. Nothing can actually justify that. He deserves the hate he gets. Well, Light Yagami played with multiple lives and there's no such hate. So? Sekai don't have the same amout of hate too... |
GoldSlashMay 25, 2014 10:26 AM
goldslash said: ssjokg said: Makoto was literally playing with multiple girls for no good reason at all. Nothing can actually justify that. He deserves the hate he gets. Well, Light Yagami played with multiple lives and there's no such hate. So? Sekai don't have the same amout of hate too... That's a problem with those that like him and If they like him as person and not a villain. There are a lot of evil characters that are liked because they of their role, persona, thoughts(getting rid of all criminals, religion/political views, interesting sociopaths) etc and not for their actions....Ahh I think I cant word it better ... Why the small text? I dont know why Sekai is hated less than him. Maybe some people think that what she did was justified. I hate them all. |
| I am amazed why some people dont know why Sekai is as hateable. First of all why do you put a male and a female in same bowl? Second , the only hateable type of girl , with a majority ofc , is the abusive one ........take as an example Louise from ZnT . She's a bitch , she abuses . People just cant come to hate a character that is a victim of a.........souless scumbag. Because she was the victim and because at that point Makoto was already hated . He was made to be hated . For instance , why would I hate someone that did nothing aside from killing a hated character? I just didnt felt hate towards her , I was annoyed by her at times but it didnt bring me to hate her . I find Kotonoha disgusting but she doesnt make me hate her , she was annoying , very annoying yet she didnt make me hate her . Makoto is the only character in the anime industry that everytime I remember him makes me watch his death scene again and again. And belive me I hated Amano Yukiteru for a while untill I just got to understand him. There is nothing to understand in Makoto . |
| "Love is a drug to our brain , it stops the thinking function and when you realize it wether you acomplish it or not you'll enter in one of the 3 withdrawal states : happy , sad or anger. Once this drug gets hold of you you'd better be prepaired beforehand." - Me |
| Didnt Sekai bring Kotonoha and Makoto together and then remembered that she liked Makoto as well, which resulted on what happened?Wasnt Kotonoha bullied for an relationship that had already failed but she didnt know? And we put them together because of actual equality. Louise at least actually cares for Saito and her friends.What did Sekai do when her "friends" bullied Kotonoha? Yeah Sekai didnt do anything else other than killing someone who rejected her for the girl she stole him from..... |
FluffyFlesh said: First of all why do you put a male and a female in same bowl? Because "equality". You want to go a round with Nicole or what? FluffyFlesh said: For instance , why would I hate someone that did nothing aside from killing a hated character? Some food for thought; you just compared a murderer to someone who cheated on her. I can't even begin to understand how (or why) you believe that murdering your cheating boyfriend is fine. |
yhunataMay 25, 2014 12:11 PM
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| Even thought I personally like Makoto,I can see where you guys are coming from. How do you call a guy who sleeps with bunch of girls WHILE being in relationship ? Mostly says that he is a pig.Although.. From one's perspective,you can say that he is awful cause he doesn't give a damn about Kotonoha and other girls,he just wants to have fun. Other might say that it's not his fault,he is just being indecisive about which girl he should choose. Who wouldn't sleep with any girl he wants ? Well,if you are in relationship and you are not a douchebag,than you probably wouldn't. The thing is,Makoto wasted his chance of being happy in his relationship,and went the wrong way. Just like someone above me said,Yagami Light messed with other people too, in a lot worse way. I guess in the end it all comes to the way you see Mikoto. |
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yhunata said: FluffyFlesh said: First of all why do you put a male and a female in same bowl? Because "equality". You want to go a round with Nicole or what? FluffyFlesh said: For instance , why would I hate someone that did nothing aside from killing a hated character? Some food for thought; you just compared a murderer to someone who cheated on her. I can't even begin to understand how (or why) you believe that murdering your cheating boyfriend is good is fine. You took it out of context and understood w/e. I dont confuse reality with fiction . I said it in many words that Sekai was very annoying for me and thats that. That souless scumbag deserved his death .[period] Let me put it simplyer for you to understand , among the anime cast she and Kotonoha was the least hateable. SL was enjoyable at beginning but it was getting worser and worser , brought me to the point of hating the hole cast but the only hate feeling that remained and still remains is still Makoto. And when you hate someone you are indifferent to someones death or you feel glad. The latter is the most common. P.S: Atleast Yagamai was good at what he was doing and he had a personality not just a spongebob . Makoto literally was just a corpse used for fucking. |
FluffyFleshMay 25, 2014 12:22 PM
| "Love is a drug to our brain , it stops the thinking function and when you realize it wether you acomplish it or not you'll enter in one of the 3 withdrawal states : happy , sad or anger. Once this drug gets hold of you you'd better be prepaired beforehand." - Me |
| Definitely Shinji Ikari for me. |
Ramzis31 said: Except that Light isnt liked for killing people.Even thought I personally like Makoto,I can see where you guys are coming from. How do you call a guy who sleeps with bunch of girls WHILE being in relationship ? Mostly says that he is a pig.Although.. From one's perspective,you can say that he is awful cause he doesn't give a damn about Kotonoha and other girls,he just wants to have fun. Other might say that it's not his fault,he is just being indecisive about which girl he should choose. Who wouldn't sleep with any girl he wants ? Well,if you are in relationship and you are not a douchebag,than you probably wouldn't. The thing is,Makoto wasted his chance of being happy in his relationship,and went the wrong way. Just like someone above me said,Yagami Light messed with other people too, in a lot worse way. I guess in the end it all comes to the way you see Mikoto. Why should Makoto be liked for cheating his girlfriend multiple times for no reason? That he is indecisive IS his fault.That he didnt consider what may happen is his fault. @Fluffy What exactly did he took out of context? What does confusing reality with fiction have to do with what yhunata said? Sekai fucked Kotonoha's life. And Makoto's as well since she was the one that started his cheating career. Makoto deserved a good beating at most. Sekai basically killed someone because he returned to his old girlfriend. What is more interesting is that Makoto this time actually said that he wanted to break up with her unlike what he did with Kotonoha. Yeah Sekai really is a fucking hero.... That you are glad that someone murdered some scumbag doesnt mean that they did the right thing. Light was good at killing and Makoto was good at getting laid.They are similar in their actions, that doenst deserve any love.Their persona's are what make the difference. |
ssjokgMay 25, 2014 12:24 PM
ssjokg said: Ramzis31 said: Except that Light isnt liked for killing people.Even thought I personally like Makoto,I can see where you guys are coming from. How do you call a guy who sleeps with bunch of girls WHILE being in relationship ? Mostly says that he is a pig.Although.. From one's perspective,you can say that he is awful cause he doesn't give a damn about Kotonoha and other girls,he just wants to have fun. Other might say that it's not his fault,he is just being indecisive about which girl he should choose. Who wouldn't sleep with any girl he wants ? Well,if you are in relationship and you are not a douchebag,than you probably wouldn't. The thing is,Makoto wasted his chance of being happy in his relationship,and went the wrong way. Just like someone above me said,Yagami Light messed with other people too, in a lot worse way. I guess in the end it all comes to the way you see Mikoto. Why should Makoto be liked for cheating his girlfriend multiple times for no reason? That he is indecisive IS his fault.That he didnt consider what may happen is his fault. I'm not saying that it's not his fault. But what about Sekai ? You could say most was her fault. She let Makoto do whatever he wants with her. Guess what ? He is a teenager. Make out on the roof ? Why the hell not ? Kotonoha didn't gave him what he wanted. All Sekai had to do is just say NO.That would have ended it. I'm not going to bother talking about bullying Kotonoha. Sekai actually f*cked things up,at least that's how I see it. |
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| ^Didnt I say that like two times already? I am not saying that any of them did anything right.I am saying that all deserve the hate they get.Kotonoha for not doing something(not lethal) earlier. And there are teenagers that CAN say no to that. He should have ended the relationship with Kotonoha first if he wasnt satisfied. |
ssjokg said: ^Didnt I say that like two times already? I am not saying that any of them did anything right.I am saying that all deserve the hate they get.Kotonoha for not doing something(not lethal) earlier. And there are teenagers that CAN say no to that. He should have ended the relationship with Kotonoha first if he wasnt satisfied. Yea,I get that and I agree,I just hate how OTHER people (a few I know) blame Makoto for everything and Sekai is left forgotten. I'm new to MAL,just wanted to see how everyone felt about it. Glad I'm not the only one who can see something more than just Makoto banging girls. |
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| Sakura Haruno Sasuke Uchiha Obito Uchiha Yozora Mikazuki Hanekawa Tsubasa (not exactly hate, but I never got why some people thought she was boring and unlikable) Ganta from Deadman wonderland Yuki from Mirai Nikki Hiromi Yusa from True Tears Black Star from Soul Eater Most of the cast of Nagi no Asukara even Miuna Yukine from Noragami |
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tsudecimo said: Sasuke Uchiha Obito Uchiha Who can hate them ? They are awesome characters,even thought some of their decisions cannot be explained... |
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Ramzis31 said: I think what many people who demand blood miss is that all of those girls were enablers. Each and every one of them forced their desires on the indecisive, desperate Makoto. It wasn't Makoto that was going "get in bed with me or we're through" or "I've always loved you, please be with me you're my one and only shining star baby guuurl." He played his part along with every other character. They are all guilty, hang em all.Yea,I get that and I agree,I just hate how OTHER people (a few I know) blame Makoto for everything and Sekai is left forgotten. I'm new to MAL,just wanted to see how everyone felt about it. Glad I'm not the only one who can see something more than just Makoto banging girls. |
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Ratohnhaketon said: "I've always loved you, please be with me you're my one and only shining star baby guuurl." Oh god I would love to see him saying these words |
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wolowizard said: WTF really? Sasugay is even worse than Suckura. Classic. |
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ssjokg said: Wait, I was following up until this part.Light was good at killing and Makoto was good at getting laid.They are similar in their actions |
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| Luffy Zoro Nami Usopp Sanji Chopper Robin Franky Brook |
| Makoto from school days. He just wanted to get laid it was the girls who were crazy. |
| The narrator from Hunter x Hunter 2011. He gets an unreasonable amount of hate from some claiming that he states the obvious while I think his narration adds a lot to what is going on. Whenever he have lines like this "A prologue to unparalleled fear was quietly, but steadily unfolding" Beginning of Chimera Ant arc "The countless dragons that rained down were less significant, than the humans in the sky" Palace invasion and you add that with the amazing soundtrack, it's top quality storytelling. Not to mention I love how he sounds as well, I could listen to him talk all day Also Pouf as well, he really is an interesting character because of how obsessed he is with the King and how far he's willing to go |
| "Now, let us drink. Let us drink. Drink to the human race. In every age, there will be good humans and bad humans. Human life is too long to devote to reproduction, yet too short to devote to learning, in the helix of time. Perhaps that is why humans succumb to desire and seek release. Despite the fact that life is complete with the sun, the land and poetry." Supreme Leader Diego(Real) (Hunter x Hunter 2011) |
| all battle shounen characters like luffy naruto ichigo sasuke and natsu |
| Lately I'd say Yukine from Noragami : what the fuck is up with all these people calling him an annoying brat dragging down the show and what not ? His character arc was fiiine and his behavior pretty understandable. |
| Proud founder of The Official Anti-Ging Freecss Fan Club Join now! Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
KitsuneKomugi said: The narrator from Hunter x Hunter 2011. He gets an unreasonable amount of hate from some claiming that he states the obvious while I think his narration adds a lot to what is going on. Whenever he have lines like this "A prologue to unparalleled fear was quietly, but steadily unfolding" Beginning of Chimera Ant arc "The countless dragons that rained down were less significant, than the humans in the sky" Palace invasion and you add that with the amazing soundtrack, it's top quality storytelling. Not to mention I love how he sounds as well, I could listen to him talk all day Also Pouf as well, he really is an interesting character because of how obsessed he is with the King and how far he's willing to go Seriously. His explanations are extremely important to understanding in the CA arc and they go well with the pacing. |
Sapewloth said: Lately I'd say Yukine from Noragami : what the fuck is up with all these people calling him an annoying brat dragging down the show and what not ? His character arc was fiiine and his behavior pretty understandable. I didn't mind him, but when he was I'd say judging from that, people disliking him is perfectly justifiable. |
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ssjokg said: There are a lot of evil characters that are liked because they of their role, persona, thoughts, etc and not for their actions....Ahh I think I cant word it better ... There's some people that like Makoto for her thoughts too... He was an ass, that somehow managed to get free women(it's happen with rappers and football players). Then i think he enjoyed the moment. But at sometime, he was trying to change and then died. Well you don't know what was going to happen, however in the end(if you watch carefully), there's some tips that make me think we was going to change... His actions can be dumb, but can be understandable... Some people misunderstood him and then start hating. Why the small text? I dont know why Sekai is hated less than him. Maybe some people think that what she did was justified. I hate them all. When you said (idk), you just admitted, that Makoto was injustly. The problem here is what "injustly" mean. For some people mean that hated without motive. For me it's too much hated that can really be. So if people hate Makoto and don't hate Sekai they are being hypocrite... So he has "injustly" imho, cuz he gets excessive hate(very much), but Sekai and other characters don't, making him the one to blame. I got a doubt, you don't liked the show too, right?? |
Ramzis31 said: Even thought I personally like Makoto,I can see where you guys are coming from. How do you call a guy who sleeps with bunch of girls WHILE being in relationship ? Mostly says that he is a pig.Although.. From one's perspective,you can say that he is awful cause he doesn't give a damn about Kotonoha and other girls,he just wants to have fun. Other might say that it's not his fault,he is just being indecisive about which girl he should choose. Who wouldn't sleep with any girl he wants ? Well,if you are in relationship and you are not a douchebag,than you probably wouldn't. The thing is,Makoto wasted his chance of being happy in his relationship,and went the wrong way. Just like someone above me said,Yagami Light messed with other people too, in a lot worse way. I guess in the end it all comes to the way you see Mikoto. NICE!!! Fully agreed... People see and understand Makoto differently. I think some people take his actions too extremely... They even try to put cheat as murder in the same level. It's hard to say a people deserve to die, it's another question why people like more L than Light... But in the end, everything comes to personal perspectives. |
SuperRed said: Luffy Zoro Nami Usopp Sanji Chopper Robin Franky Brook -_- |
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greatperhaps said: KitsuneKomugi said: The narrator from Hunter x Hunter 2011. He gets an unreasonable amount of hate from some claiming that he states the obvious while I think his narration adds a lot to what is going on. Whenever he have lines like this "A prologue to unparalleled fear was quietly, but steadily unfolding" Beginning of Chimera Ant arc "The countless dragons that rained down were less significant, than the humans in the sky" Palace invasion and you add that with the amazing soundtrack, it's top quality storytelling. Not to mention I love how he sounds as well, I could listen to him talk all day Also Pouf as well, he really is an interesting character because of how obsessed he is with the King and how far he's willing to go Seriously. His explanations are extremely important to understanding in the CA arc and they go well with the pacing. Funny how the forum keeps getting flooded with questions already addresses by him. |
| Nina from Code Geass. Such a compelling character that remains to be likeable, despite the deep psychological character study presented. Also, she is apart of the greatest ship ever that defines OTP (NinaXtable). In all seriousness, though, Shinji Ikari. |
SetsukoHara said: Mankanshoku Mako: She was a very good parody of an archetype that peopl usually hate (useless sidekick girl who is only good to make friendship speech). She was the soul of KlK! Lol Mako is THE most loved character in the show. Most people that disliked her just found her annoying, which is a valid reason. But I personally really liked Mako. |
Shrabster said: ssjokg said: Wait, I was following up until this part.Light was good at killing and Makoto was good at getting laid.They are similar in their actions It was for those that compare them, saying that Light is liked even though he did some atrocities.I want to point out that both of them were good at doing things that arent "good". Their actions arent likeable; they arent liked for those actions. goldslash said: ssjokg said: There are a lot of evil characters that are liked because they of their role, persona, thoughts, etc and not for their actions....Ahh I think I cant word it better ... There's some people that like Makoto for her thoughts too... He was an ass, that somehow managed to get free women(it's happen with rappers and football players). Then i think he enjoyed the moment. But at sometime, he was trying to change and then died. Well you don't know what was going to happen, however in the end(if you watch carefully), there's some tips that make me think we was going to change... His actions can be dumb, but can be understandable... Some people misunderstood him and then start hating. Why the small text? I dont know why Sekai is hated less than him. Maybe some people think that what she did was justified. I hate them all. When you said (idk), you just admitted, that Makoto was injustly. The problem here is what "injustly" mean. For some people mean that hated without motive. For me it's too much hated that can really be. So if people hate Makoto and don't hate Sekai they are being hypocrite... So he has "injustly" imho, cuz he gets excessive hate(very much), but Sekai and other characters don't, making him the one to blame. I got a doubt, you don't liked the show too, right?? THe problem isnt that he got free women. The problem is what he did to Kotonoha and how he ignored any consequences his actions might had. Yes he was going to change....after he fucked up everything. That doesnt make him more likeable. It wasnt a misunderstanding that caused all this. He knew very well what he was doing and anyone that has even a little respect for their relationship would hate him for messing with Kotonoha. No. The hate Makoto get isnt unjust just because Sekai, or any other character isnt hated as mush as he is..That doesnt make sense.The hate for one character has nothing to do with the other. Those that hate only one of them are hypocrite yes. Makoto IS to blame. Sure it isnt solely his fault, Sekai had a big part on this, but that doesnt make him a victim. |
Maor said: Charles from Code Geass people just hate him because they are ignorant Lelouch fanboys This is a pretty good one. |
| Uhm , all this talking about SD made my killer instincts come to surface .......[LOL] That anime isnt likeable and the most hated one is Makoto , that doesnt mean the rest are not hated its just not as hated as him. And discussing furthermore on the subject it will make your precious character get more hate because , no matter what you say he will get more hate than likes on a ratio 1 likes per 100 or more hates because lets admit that this anime is fucked up . It was a game , where Makoto was the player and he met the end where the player decides to fuck every girl , the exact same mentality as the majority. "Oh I killed tons of jews , I realized what I've done and I'm going to change". After you fuck up everything it doesnt matter anymore if you change or not , the deeds you have done are unforgivable. Being killed or not , only a stupid girl/desperate enough would still want to be around him. Sekai is the yandere at it's greatest level. This happens when 2 yanderes are in the same anime. |
| "Love is a drug to our brain , it stops the thinking function and when you realize it wether you acomplish it or not you'll enter in one of the 3 withdrawal states : happy , sad or anger. Once this drug gets hold of you you'd better be prepaired beforehand." - Me |
FluffyFlesh said: Except he didn't kill thousands of Jews, he slept with multiple women and ignored the consequences of his actions which had some fairly bad effects. I don't argue that Makoto shouldn't be disliked, I argue that he shouldn't be as disliked/hated as much as he is. There are tons of characters that have done worse than him. Cheating is bad and sleezy, but it's not on the same level of murder, rape, and other similar atrocities. Yet there are people who literally want him to dead, and not only that, they want him to suffer. This bothers me and tells me that most of MAL has no idea about actions and they consequences they hold. You are talking about killing someone for having consensual sex with multiple people behind the back of your partner, something that is not a one way street I might add.Uhm , all this talking about SD made my killer instincts come to surface .......[LOL] That anime isnt likeable and the most hated one is Makoto , that doesnt mean the rest are not hated its just not as hated as him. And discussing furthermore on the subject it will make your precious character get more hate because , no matter what you say he will get more hate than likes on a ratio 1 likes per 100 or more hates because lets admit that this anime is fucked up . It was a game , where Makoto was the player and he met the end where the player decides to fuck every girl , the exact same mentality as the majority. "Oh I killed tons of jews , I realized what I've done and I'm going to change". After you fuck up everything it doesnt matter anymore if you change or not , the deeds you have done are unforgivable. Being killed or not , only a stupid girl/desperate enough would still want to be around him. Sekai is the yandere at it's greatest level. This happens when 2 yanderes are in the same anime. |
ShrabsterMay 26, 2014 1:50 AM
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| I think Makoto being unlikable even without doing what he did, attributes to the hate. |
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That's how people feel towards him , and what bothers me (it doesnt matter , I felt like adding it) that this community live under the impression that if you hate or want a character dead you're a terrible person . Taking anime too seriously is much scary than wanting a character dead. Makoto was the villain and he received same jugement as Cell . Cell didnt kill people he just fed his desires with them , sounds familiar? Yeah.... As I said gather some info about the game , what you see there is just what happens to horny players that want to fap at pictures. |
| "Love is a drug to our brain , it stops the thinking function and when you realize it wether you acomplish it or not you'll enter in one of the 3 withdrawal states : happy , sad or anger. Once this drug gets hold of you you'd better be prepaired beforehand." - Me |
FluffyFlesh said: I would say wanting a character dead is taking anime too seriously. I don't think the people who want Makoto dead are bad people, just that they have a very skewed few of moral justice or aren't really thinking about what they are saying. That's how people feel towards him , and what bothers me (it doesnt matter , I felt like adding it) that this community live under the impression that if you hate or want a character dead you're a terrible person . Taking anime too seriously is much scary than wanting a character dead. Makoto was the villain and he received same jugement as Cell . Cell didnt kill people he just fed his desires with them , sounds familiar? Yeah.... As I said gather some info about the game , what you see there is just what happens to horny players that want to fap at pictures. |
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| The typical ones. Eren, naruto, luffy. |
Dmanful said: Naruto Uzumaki Sakura Haruno Sasuke Uchiha People just project their hate for the anime onto the main characters. I'll be honest, I dislike Sakura and Sasuke to an extent, but I think that they are still pretty decent characters with a nice amount of development. Oh, and calling Naruto and Sasuke gay is ridiculous, ignorant, and immature. For me it was quite the opposite....I LIKED the story when I began to watch it, I constantly defended it. However, I never got over how bad and unlikable of a character Sasuke was, how useless and utterly hopeless Sakura was, and how fucking annoying Naruto was. As for the gay thing....yeah it is immature, it's also portrayed that way mostly because Naruto was obsessed with Sasuke to an insane level. Hell, he even surpassed Sakura in that department. Either way, I personally think the hatred for these characters is more than justified....but that's just my subjective and obviously biased opinion. |
JustALEX said: [I never got over how bad and unlikable of a character Sasuke Why is he a bad character? was, how useless and utterly hopeless Sakura was She is not useless and hopeless. Your bias not gonna change that fact .-. |
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wolowizard said: tsudecimo said: She is not useless and hopeless. Shes basically the most useless character ever.Deal with it. Strong argument bro. On a more serious note, she is relevant and important whenever focus time, and an important part of Team 7 dynamic that alone makes her not useless to the plot. You seem mad like always btw. |
tsudecimoMay 26, 2014 3:20 AM
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| I think what's weird is you. Half of what you said is factually wrong, and the other half is exaggerations. >Taking a member of the Akatsuki > Indirectly saving the life of a Kage (Kazekage) > Calls it just healing How about you back up your shit, instead of acting like a stereotypical hater. The fact that you can't even acknowledge her character development, which exists factually whether you like it or not, speaks volumes of how much you don't understand shit. Keep the hate to yourself and stop embarrassing yourself. > no one will give a damn I just told you to no embarrass yourself :/ |
tsudecimoMay 26, 2014 3:55 AM
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