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Dec 5, 2008 9:57 PM
#51
Dec 5, 2008 10:04 PM
#52
I'm pretty curious as to what this "illness" is specifically, and hopefully we get the full story soon. However, I do hope she does become well and continues the manga despite her readers being absolutely insane otaku. |
FactorDec 5, 2008 10:34 PM
Dec 5, 2008 10:34 PM
#53
kimatg said: crono22 said: Stupid otakus......... lol and I thought we were all otakus here in MAL. XD that just proved what crono22 said is true |
Dec 5, 2008 10:39 PM
#54
Nothing of value was lost. |
Dec 5, 2008 10:40 PM
#55
good. hope she dies |
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Dec 6, 2008 2:49 AM
#56
Crap, this all reminds me of Ai Kago and other Hello!Project idol scandals. I'm gonna miss my Kannagi.;_; *crosses fingers* It might drive me to smoke some Virginia Slims if Kannagi never resumes. |
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Dec 6, 2008 7:11 AM
#57
Kraker2k said: Fai said: Slayer12 said: Funny how you say that and kannagi is one of the best fall animes that came out with a rating of 8.02 rating is nothing but a reflection of ignorance and mainstream-ness of the show. The usual shonen trash like naruto and bleach also score ~8. Does it make it the best thing ever? No. Unoriginal stuff always tends to get good ratings(Haruhi?) because it has something to appease the mainstream public, instead of being original :) "Unoriginal stuff always tends to get good ratings" Haha what a hypocrite. In your list: Evangelion = 10 Gundam 00 = 10 Code Geass = 10 Zeta Gundam = 10 All of which are mainstream shows that appeal to the masses, yet you claim shows like Haruhi & Kannagi which have a more niché fandom are far more unoriginal. Oh how badly do you fail sir, oh. Mainstream ? Maybe. But all of them offered something new instead of overused school romance comedy setting. They are not "mainstream", they are the classics of anime(well, EVA, Zeta and 00 are). Should I change my opinion on the original material, just because after a few years authors decided to sell out? No. Kannagi, Haruhi and other school-comedy-drama-romance bs IS CREATED to be mainstream, on other hand. CCZilla said: Funny, because you give Code Geass a 10 despite it being an obvious mating of Gundam and Death Note. I would have given Nine(because I, frankly enjoyed it, and I am not republican enough to see any connections or "copying" of Gundam or Death Note). I simply gave it ten because of the same reason - mainstream bash. Masses think its ok to bash certain shows without any reason, and I am not going to just flow with that :) P.S. I am not going to continue this pointless discussion, as some people are just not ready to accept the facts, But I agree with what was said by some people above - "Nothing of value was lost". A few sweeps of illness cleaning up the anime&manga market, would let an interesting and thoughtful material to get more space :). And If she is just scared of "angering the fans" - well, that just proved my thoughts about mainstream writers :) |
Dec 6, 2008 7:13 AM
#58
dtshyk said: According to Comic REX magazine, Takenashi Eri's manga "Kannagi" will be withheld from publication for some while due to the ill health of the author. It's unknown when the manga will resume publication. Source: Scan of Comic REX I read that on Sankaku. I lol'd and raged a little. |
Dec 6, 2008 7:37 AM
#59
Fai said: How about I perpetuate his failure some more. Seriously, mainstream and unoriginal is still mainstream and unoriginal. Code Geass especifically is the perfect example of what mainstream anime is. Even it's director admitted it once. Just because I liked it I won't be completely blind to the fact it was all just pretty mirrors meant to hook watchers through plot twist after plot twist (plot inconsistencies be damned).Kraker2k said: Fai said: Slayer12 said: Funny how you say that and kannagi is one of the best fall animes that came out with a rating of 8.02 rating is nothing but a reflection of ignorance and mainstream-ness of the show. The usual shonen trash like naruto and bleach also score ~8. Does it make it the best thing ever? No. Unoriginal stuff always tends to get good ratings(Haruhi?) because it has something to appease the mainstream public, instead of being original :) "Unoriginal stuff always tends to get good ratings" Haha what a hypocrite. In your list: Evangelion = 10 Gundam 00 = 10 Code Geass = 10 Zeta Gundam = 10 All of which are mainstream shows that appeal to the masses, yet you claim shows like Haruhi & Kannagi which have a more niché fandom are far more unoriginal. Oh how badly do you fail sir, oh. Mainstream ? Maybe. But all of them offered something new instead of overused school romance comedy setting. They are not "mainstream", they are the classics of anime(well, EVA, Zeta and 00 are). Should I change my opinion on the original material, just because after a few years authors decided to sell out? No. Kannagi, Haruhi and other school-comedy-drama-romance bs IS CREATED to be mainstream, on other hand. CCZilla said: Funny, because you give Code Geass a 10 despite it being an obvious mating of Gundam and Death Note. I would have given Nine(because I, frankly enjoyed it, and I am not republican enough to see any connections or "copying" of Gundam or Death Note). I simply gave it ten because of the same reason - mainstream bash. Masses think its ok to bash certain shows without any reason, and I am not going to just flow with that :) P.S. I am not going to continue this pointless discussion, as some people are just not ready to accept the facts, But I agree with what was said by some people above - "Nothing of value was lost". A few sweeps of illness cleaning up the anime&manga market, would let an interesting and thoughtful material to get more space :). And If she is just scared of "angering the fans" - well, that just proved my thoughts about mainstream writers :) Neverender said: So says the person with the Zange picture on his signature. Also, do you really mean it... if so, I really am appaled by how insensitive people can be. You may hate someone, but please don't wish for people's death. That's disgusting to hear, no matter the situation.good. hope she dies |
Leon-GunDec 6, 2008 7:40 AM
Dec 6, 2008 7:45 AM
#60
Fai said: Kraker2k said: Fai said: Slayer12 said: Funny how you say that and kannagi is one of the best fall animes that came out with a rating of 8.02 rating is nothing but a reflection of ignorance and mainstream-ness of the show. The usual shonen trash like naruto and bleach also score ~8. Does it make it the best thing ever? No. Unoriginal stuff always tends to get good ratings(Haruhi?) because it has something to appease the mainstream public, instead of being original :) "Unoriginal stuff always tends to get good ratings" Haha what a hypocrite. In your list: Evangelion = 10 Gundam 00 = 10 Code Geass = 10 Zeta Gundam = 10 All of which are mainstream shows that appeal to the masses, yet you claim shows like Haruhi & Kannagi which have a more niché fandom are far more unoriginal. Oh how badly do you fail sir, oh. Mainstream ? Maybe. But all of them offered something new instead of overused school romance comedy setting. They are not "mainstream", they are the classics of anime(well, EVA, Zeta and 00 are). Should I change my opinion on the original material, just because after a few years authors decided to sell out? No. Kannagi, Haruhi and other school-comedy-drama-romance bs IS CREATED to be mainstream, on other hand. CCZilla said: Funny, because you give Code Geass a 10 despite it being an obvious mating of Gundam and Death Note. I would have given Nine(because I, frankly enjoyed it, and I am not republican enough to see any connections or "copying" of Gundam or Death Note). I simply gave it ten because of the same reason - mainstream bash. Masses think its ok to bash certain shows without any reason, and I am not going to just flow with that :) P.S. I am not going to continue this pointless discussion, as some people are just not ready to accept the facts, But I agree with what was said by some people above - "Nothing of value was lost". A few sweeps of illness cleaning up the anime&manga market, would let an interesting and thoughtful material to get more space :). And If she is just scared of "angering the fans" - well, that just proved my thoughts about mainstream writers :) *facepalm* I guess I'll start from the top and work my way down... okay, first off, I'll concede to you that Evangelion was rather original for its time and did a lot of stuff no one else had dared before it. Code Geass offered nothing new to the table. It's an amalgamation of everything Sunrise is famous for (fancy mecha, characters that seemingly die over and over but never do, best friends turned enemies by conflict, psycho lesbian) and then some. The premise is identical to Death Note, whereas Lulu = Light, Geass = Death Note, and C.C. = Ryuk. The Emperor's grand scheme turned out to be a rehash of what End of Evangelion did nearly 10 years before it. It was a lot of fun from start to finish, but the storyline was a train wreck. And how can you even call Code Geass and Gundam 00 "classic"? One has only been completed for two months, and the other isn't even done yet! Eva is a classic, these two we have yet to see if they will stand the test of time. Now regarding Kannagi and Haruhi being created to be mainstream, no. Haruhi was never intended for mainstream consumption which is why it aired on the late-night "otaku" blocks, as does Kannagi now. They were intended for a niche audience but have grown to noticeability outside the intended audience. Mainstream implies that people outside the know will still be aware of these shows even if they don't watch them. Pokemon, Naruto, and Dragonball Z are all fine examples of this. Haruhi and Kannagi are not. Claiming you aren't "republican enough to see any connections or "copying" of Death Note and Gundam" is ignorant. Choosing to pretend these connections do not exist so you can feel you're still right is an insult to those you are replying to. Light got the Death Note from Ryuk and used it to become god of a new world. Lulu got the Geass from C.C. and used it to conquer the world. Thus a connection does exist. I don't agree with bashing mainstream shows, but giving out tens because of the bashers is just the other side of the same coin. You're just as bad as the bashers. "P.S. I am not going to continue this pointless discussion, as some people are just not ready to accept the facts," Wow, what a douche. |
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Dec 6, 2008 8:59 AM
#61
Splitter said: Fai said: Kraker2k said: Fai said: Slayer12 said: Funny how you say that and kannagi is one of the best fall animes that came out with a rating of 8.02 rating is nothing but a reflection of ignorance and mainstream-ness of the show. The usual shonen trash like naruto and bleach also score ~8. Does it make it the best thing ever? No. Unoriginal stuff always tends to get good ratings(Haruhi?) because it has something to appease the mainstream public, instead of being original :) "Unoriginal stuff always tends to get good ratings" Haha what a hypocrite. In your list: Evangelion = 10 Gundam 00 = 10 Code Geass = 10 Zeta Gundam = 10 All of which are mainstream shows that appeal to the masses, yet you claim shows like Haruhi & Kannagi which have a more niché fandom are far more unoriginal. Oh how badly do you fail sir, oh. Mainstream ? Maybe. But all of them offered something new instead of overused school romance comedy setting. They are not "mainstream", they are the classics of anime(well, EVA, Zeta and 00 are). Should I change my opinion on the original material, just because after a few years authors decided to sell out? No. Kannagi, Haruhi and other school-comedy-drama-romance bs IS CREATED to be mainstream, on other hand. CCZilla said: Funny, because you give Code Geass a 10 despite it being an obvious mating of Gundam and Death Note. I would have given Nine(because I, frankly enjoyed it, and I am not republican enough to see any connections or "copying" of Gundam or Death Note). I simply gave it ten because of the same reason - mainstream bash. Masses think its ok to bash certain shows without any reason, and I am not going to just flow with that :) P.S. I am not going to continue this pointless discussion, as some people are just not ready to accept the facts, But I agree with what was said by some people above - "Nothing of value was lost". A few sweeps of illness cleaning up the anime&manga market, would let an interesting and thoughtful material to get more space :). And If she is just scared of "angering the fans" - well, that just proved my thoughts about mainstream writers :) *facepalm* I guess I'll start from the top and work my way down... okay, first off, I'll concede to you that Evangelion was rather original for its time and did a lot of stuff no one else had dared before it. Code Geass offered nothing new to the table. It's an amalgamation of everything Sunrise is famous for (fancy mecha, characters that seemingly die over and over but never do, best friends turned enemies by conflict, psycho lesbian) and then some. The premise is identical to Death Note, whereas Lulu = Light, Geass = Death Note, and C.C. = Ryuk. The Emperor's grand scheme turned out to be a rehash of what End of Evangelion did nearly 10 years before it. It was a lot of fun from start to finish, but the storyline was a train wreck. And how can you even call Code Geass and Gundam 00 "classic"? One has only been completed for two months, and the other isn't even done yet! Eva is a classic, these two we have yet to see if they will stand the test of time. Now regarding Kannagi and Haruhi being created to be mainstream, no. Haruhi was never intended for mainstream consumption which is why it aired on the late-night "otaku" blocks, as does Kannagi now. They were intended for a niche audience but have grown to noticeability outside the intended audience. Mainstream implies that people outside the know will still be aware of these shows even if they don't watch them. Pokemon, Naruto, and Dragonball Z are all fine examples of this. Haruhi and Kannagi are not. Claiming you aren't "republican enough to see any connections or "copying" of Death Note and Gundam" is ignorant. Choosing to pretend these connections do not exist so you can feel you're still right is an insult to those you are replying to. Light got the Death Note from Ryuk and used it to become god of a new world. Lulu got the Geass from C.C. and used it to conquer the world. Thus a connection does exist. I don't agree with bashing mainstream shows, but giving out tens because of the bashers is just the other side of the same coin. You're just as bad as the bashers. "P.S. I am not going to continue this pointless discussion, as some people are just not ready to accept the facts," Wow, what a douche. I couldn't have said it any better myself. Kudos. |
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Dec 8, 2008 9:27 AM
#62
Dec 9, 2008 7:59 AM
#63
Neverender said: good. hope she dies 0/10, gb2/a/ Fai said: P.S. I am not going to continue this pointless discussion, as some people are just not ready to accept the facts What facts? That you're a hypocrite? That you mindlessly bash on a type of series and somehow think your opinion = fact? You might want to stop convincing yourself that you're not as dumb as people think you are. Anyway, guys, she's not ill. She just doesn't want to do it anymore. Reason being: her fanbase consists of the worst kind of otaku. No one in their right mind would want to do any work when they have a fanbase like that. |
Dec 9, 2008 9:09 AM
#64
Dec 9, 2008 9:19 AM
#65
that is just incredibly stupid. I really hope she just finishes it. there should still be plenty of fans that still want to read it. |
Dec 9, 2008 1:06 PM
#66
Dec 9, 2008 1:49 PM
#67
Dec 10, 2008 1:14 AM
#68
From what I heard: Nagi is not a virgin, not just she had an ex-boyfriend maybe Nagi not being a virgin is implied? She (the mangaka) received the torn up manga from fans of the series and decided to use sickness as an excuse to temporarily (?) stop the manga. A friend told me this with http://news.greedland.net/Channel/content/2008/200812/20081210/15678.html as reference (site is in Chinese). I'm not too sure of the actual details, perhaps someone who actually reads the manga can tell us more. |
Dec 10, 2008 3:54 AM
#69
Being serious for a second, that's a fucking cop-out. A writer with real conviction in the quality of his or her work wouldn't give two shits about some angry fans. An author with something compelling and raw to convey through their work would sacrifice their very health to publish it. They have an amazing story to tell, and goddamn it, they won't be satisfied until it's finished. That's the difference between genuine passion and energy for one's work, and someone that's faking it. Since she's so easily affected by some angry idiots, I tend to believe she's in the latter category. |
Dec 10, 2008 4:02 AM
#70
Dec 10, 2008 7:59 AM
#71
Dec 10, 2008 12:10 PM
#72
Dec 10, 2008 3:45 PM
#73
Dec 10, 2008 3:46 PM
#74
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Dec 11, 2008 2:09 AM
#75
Dec 11, 2008 7:56 AM
#76
sniW said: Just because of some plot twist in the last chapter s/he decided to rip all of those 5 awesome volumes?AikoD said: Leon-Gun said: Well, his problem if he wants to waste his money that way. Actually that photo was from before publication was stopped. Oh, that's..weird. I wonder why s/he ripped them all up then. That is nothing different from the guy in this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Olki4X-da4 Calling yourself an Otaku while doing this shit is nothing different from being a man but all he use was his strength and not his brain. If a person like that also called an "Otaku" then I will never recognized myself as an Otaku ever in my life. |
Dec 11, 2008 10:13 AM
#77
Dec 12, 2008 1:46 AM
#78
Well it seems to be all over. http://news.greedland.net/Channel/content/2008/200812/20081212/15732.html http://news.greedland.net/Channel/content/2008/200812/20081212/15732_1.html (contains some scenes from the manga along with some other interesting pictures) Author says she never received anything threatening and the manga will continue. |
Dec 12, 2008 5:09 AM
#80
Dec 12, 2008 6:30 AM
#81
News updated Dec 11th================= According to Minekura Kazuya's (the author of "Saiyuki") blog, Takenashi Eri cannot get out of the bed due to the illness. The official website announced that the illustrator of the DVD storage box(, which is the extra item bundled with Kannagi DVD volume 3 Limited Edition) will be switched from Takenashi Eri to Kadowaki Satoshi (the graphic art director of Kannagi). Source: nitro diary Source: Official website Dec 12th========================= According to Ichijinsha website, Takenashi Eri was hospitalized after finishing Kannagi manga episode released in the December issue and had an emergency surgery. The surgery was successful and she is getting better now. Eri sensei is still in the hospital but she is eager to resume publication as soon as possible. Source: the official announcement from the publisher |
Dec 12, 2008 7:39 AM
#82
Yay :D I'm so glad it wasn't suspended because of what the fans did |
Dec 12, 2008 11:23 AM
#84
nevets1219 said: Well, at the very least they didn't just went "oh, she's sick" and left it at that. By providing some details it destroys some of the suspicions. And it's obvious she'll try and pretend all that "fan hate" business never happened, else it will cause an even bigger scandal. It's better to leave it as "rumors" and deny it ever happened.Well it seems to be all over. http://news.greedland.net/Channel/content/2008/200812/20081212/15732.html http://news.greedland.net/Channel/content/2008/200812/20081212/15732_1.html (contains some scenes from the manga along with some other interesting pictures) Author says she never received anything threatening and the manga will continue. |
Leon-GunDec 12, 2008 11:27 AM
Dec 12, 2008 11:54 AM
#85
Well according to other sources (such as ANN) she is supposedly very sick. http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2008-12-12/kannagi-creator-takenashi-undergoes-surgery-recovers Anyways other more happier news: the bookstores (or publisher, I forgot) posted something along the lines of "Not pure is OK" but it was more of a catchy phrase (at least in Japanese and Chinese) - I believe that's what the 2nd link shows (from my previous post but my Japanese isn't good enough to be absolutely sure) |
Dec 12, 2008 10:18 PM
#86
dtshyk said: Dec 12th========================= According to Ichijinsha website, Takenashi Eri was hospitalized after finishing Kannagi manga episode released in the December issue and had an emergency surgery. The surgery was successful and she is getting better now. Eri sensei is still in the hospital but she is eager to resume publication as soon as possible. Source: the official announcement from the publisher Wow, I didn't think it was that serious. I hope she's ok.. |
Dec 13, 2008 5:14 PM
#87
Dec 14, 2008 3:45 PM
#88
Apr 21, 2009 8:34 PM
#89
News Update Takenashi-sensei posted a comment in her blog. This is the first entry since she was hospitalized last November. She said she had a serious illness due to the overwork. She had already left the hospital and is now taking a rest at home. She thanked for the emails, flowers and even Senbazuru sent by the fans. Source: Takenote |
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