| The title presupposes that crying means you are either strong or weak. Whereas the act of crying is a display of emotion, and not a display of weakness or strength. To cry, doesn't logically entail whether or not that person is strong or not. |
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gravityhappens said: Neither, it's a sign of sadness. i was about to say that. if you feel like crying, do it. it's not good to suppress your emotions. |
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| Well, it's not a sign of weakness though it depends on when and in which situations people start crying. I hate it when women/people start crying just to win an argument or for random hysteria reasons. For me personally I have no problem crying when I watch a sad show or something, but in RL I've only ever cried out of pain or frustration as far as I remember, never because of sadness or some similar feeling. I even cried quite a lot when I was a kid, which led to me getting bullied about being a crybaby and pussy at one point, so for 10 years I shut down completely and didn't cry a single time (not voluntarily, I can't control it), some 5-6 years ago I started reconnecting with my tears, even through anime, silly as it is. Still haven't cried for RL reasons (except maybe pain) since my childhood though. |
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| I honestly wish I could cry more because apparently my body has forgotten how to. In the past year I've cried like once for I forgot why, and once a year before that when I watched Clannad. But I wouldn't consider myself more manly than others just because of that, just more desensitized regarding being sad. |
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| I just think people cry when something makes them sad. Or if it makes them happy because people cry for joy sometimes. It doesn't mean you are a strong or weak person because every body cries. |
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| It's a sign of weakness. If you cry you are showing that you are hurt on one way or another, and showing that you are hurt is a sign of weakness. |
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flustercuck said: False.ToriXtra said: That's true, but you could also say it's a sign of strength to not be afraid of showing weakness. So it's *GASP* B-B-BOTH!It's a sign of weakness. If you cry you are showing that you are hurt on one way or another, and showing that you are hurt is a sign of weakness. Not being afraid of showing weakness is not strenght it's stupidity, cause you are a target to others if you are showing weakness. |
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flustercuck said: I know everyone has weak moments, I've had more then my share in these last couple of years.ToriXtra said: LOL everyone has weak moments. Only the truly stupid would try putting on a feint of being invincible. If you get stepped over by others for tearing up a little you're probably hanging with some SHIT people.flustercuck said: False.ToriXtra said: That's true, but you could also say it's a sign of strength to not be afraid of showing weakness. So it's *GASP* B-B-BOTH!It's a sign of weakness. If you cry you are showing that you are hurt on one way or another, and showing that you are hurt is a sign of weakness. Not being afraid of showing weakness is not strenght it's stupidity, cause you are a target to others if you are showing weakness. however you live your life like nothing bad is happening to you and don't show weakness to others. And I don't get stepped on by others, cause I don't show others my weakness unless I trust them 100% |
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flustercuck said: What do you mean you are right?ToriXtra said: So in other words I'M RIGHT.flustercuck said: I know everyone has weak moments, I've had more then my share in these last couple of years.ToriXtra said: LOL everyone has weak moments. Only the truly stupid would try putting on a feint of being invincible. If you get stepped over by others for tearing up a little you're probably hanging with some SHIT people.flustercuck said: False.ToriXtra said: That's true, but you could also say it's a sign of strength to not be afraid of showing weakness. So it's *GASP* B-B-BOTH!It's a sign of weakness. If you cry you are showing that you are hurt on one way or another, and showing that you are hurt is a sign of weakness. Not being afraid of showing weakness is not strenght it's stupidity, cause you are a target to others if you are showing weakness. however you live your life like nothing bad is happening to you and don't show weakness to others. And I don't get stepped on by others, cause I don't show others my weakness unless I trust them 100% There is no right or wrong answer to this question, only opinions. I think that crying is a sign of weakness and you don't |
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flustercuck said: And yet I'm still right.ToriXtra said: Um... WRONG. I said I thought it could be both. Your inability to read further invalidates your argument. flustercuck said: What do you mean you are right?ToriXtra said: So in other words I'M RIGHT.flustercuck said: I know everyone has weak moments, I've had more then my share in these last couple of years.ToriXtra said: LOL everyone has weak moments. Only the truly stupid would try putting on a feint of being invincible. If you get stepped over by others for tearing up a little you're probably hanging with some SHIT people.flustercuck said: False.ToriXtra said: That's true, but you could also say it's a sign of strength to not be afraid of showing weakness. So it's *GASP* B-B-BOTH!It's a sign of weakness. If you cry you are showing that you are hurt on one way or another, and showing that you are hurt is a sign of weakness. Not being afraid of showing weakness is not strenght it's stupidity, cause you are a target to others if you are showing weakness. however you live your life like nothing bad is happening to you and don't show weakness to others. And I don't get stepped on by others, cause I don't show others my weakness unless I trust them 100% There is no right or wrong answer to this question, only opinions. I think that crying is a sign of weakness and you don't We both believe it means something different. And as I said, this is a question that can neither be answered correctly nor wrong. It's not wrong to say that crying is a weakness, it's not wrong to say it's a strength, and it's not wrong to say it's either both or none. |
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| So the consensus seems to be that it depends what you are crying about. I'll ask this then: One man cries when his mother dies and other man does not. Who is stronger? |
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Link_of_Hyrule said: Not to be awkward or anything, but this actually happened to me 4 years ago, and I cried when I heard the information but, I didn't cry during the funeral. Either way, I think it's the lesson you take out of once one of these things happen. It's not necessarily the crying that makes you stronger, its the lessons you learn from this situation.So the consensus seems to be that it depends what you are crying about. I'll ask this then: One man cries when his mother dies and other man does not. Who is stronger? |
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Link_of_Hyrule said: So the consensus seems to be that it depends what you are crying about. I'll ask this then: One man cries when his mother dies and other man does not. Who is stronger? This situation is ambiguous and hypothetical and we can't make an assessment based on the information given. |
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Hacker4life said: It has everything to do with weakness and strength.It has nothing to do with weakness and strength. I hope for that because I cry pretty often. What really bothers me is this pussyfication of what it means to be manly. Note that I'm not a very manly man myself, I just hate it when people take something that clearly isn't manly at all (like sobbing), and come up with some bullshit reason to call it manly. If a woman cries because she doesn't give a fuck, does that make her manly too? |
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| Hahahaha, now manliness is something to go for? Since when? Do you still live in the 60s? It's a fact that current manliness is just harmful to any man, and honestly, crying actually helps, considering it's one of the best ways to relieve stress and the male gender is one of the worst if you take into consideration stress levels. So yeah, you're objectively wrong Jenny... Again. But just like anything, crying all the time just says you have some other problem. |
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| I cried like a baby when my dog passed away a few years ago, is that being manly or weak? ._. |
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| I think crying is a sign of strength, yes it's weak to break down crying uncontrollably in public, but in a more intimate setting, alone or with people you're comfortable being around crying can be beneficial. I'd say it's better to cry and let all those feelings come out of your system as opposed to letting them fester inside you, ultimately weakening you in the long run. |
| Well, it's a sign of strength for me.....cause I don't want to think I'm weak. |
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Immahnoob said: I never said that never crying is either advisable, or sound. In fact I said that there are moments when, in my view, it's okay for a man to cry. Hahahaha, now manliness is something to go for? Since when? Do you still live in the 60s? It's a fact that current manliness is just harmful to any man, and honestly, crying actually helps, considering it's one of the best ways to relieve stress and the male gender is one of the worst if you take into consideration stress levels. So yeah, you're objectively wrong Jenny... Again. Please stop misrepresenting my views. |
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BryanBossling said: Immahnoob said: I never said that never crying is either advisable, or sound. In fact I said that there are moments when, in my view, it's okay for a man to cry. Hahahaha, now manliness is something to go for? Since when? Do you still live in the 60s? It's a fact that current manliness is just harmful to any man, and honestly, crying actually helps, considering it's one of the best ways to relieve stress and the male gender is one of the worst if you take into consideration stress levels. So yeah, you're objectively wrong Jenny... Again. Please stop misrepresenting my views. No, you said that it's better for men not to cry because of social views that really are useless overall. You should cry when you feel like it, as I said, people that cry for no reason have other problems, not lack of masculinity. |
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Immahnoob said: If you're a guy who cries over a sprained ankle, because your girlfriend left you, or because you just finished watching Marley & Me, then you're a fucking pussy. It's very simple.No, you said that it's better for men not to cry because of social views that really are useless overall. You should cry when you feel like it, as I said, people that cry for no reason have other problems, not lack of masculinity. |
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BryanBossling said: You're one close-minded individual.Immahnoob said: If you're a guy who cries over a sprained ankle, because your girlfriend left you, or because you just finished watching Marley & Me, then you're a fucking pussy. It's very simple.No, you said that it's better for men not to cry because of social views that really are useless overall. You should cry when you feel like it, as I said, people that cry for no reason have other problems, not lack of masculinity. |
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Sapewloth said: I don't like that term, it doesn't seem to mean anything in these sort of discussions.You're one close-minded individual. |
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BryanBossling said: Sapewloth said: I don't like that term, it doesn't seem to mean anything in these sort of discussions.You're one close-minded individual. You may not like the term, but it certainly means something in the current discussion, given how narrow-minded you are regarding what masculinity is supposed to represent. |
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Sapewloth said: No, really whenever someone has a differing point of view people just hit you with: ''oh, well you're just close-minded'', in an effort to make your opponent's argument seem invalid. I am a very open minded person, believe it or not, I just don't think that crying is very manly.You may not like the term, but it certainly means something in the current discussion, given how narrow-minded you are regarding what masculinity is supposed to represent. I'll have you know that I also teared up during Marley & Me (although I didn't cry), although it's not my own manliness that I'm trying to prove here. |
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Endycia said: No they don't. What happened to the ''everyone reacts differently'' thing? Now you're saying that if a guy doesn't cry river, that only means he didn't give a shit. Talk about being judgmental.Crying because your girlfriend left you, I'm pretty sure that if you loved someone for several years and it trully was deep love, if the girl left you, you would cry rivers. Everyone does, unless you don't give a shit about your relationship. Endycia said: I admitted to dressing up in women's clothing in the ''Nail's'' thread, so I am definitely not trying to act tough. When did I ever say I was a tough guy? I'm just stating the obvious: ''Crying over bullshit isn't manly''.Seriously it still amazes me how you people tend to judge others and act so tough in the Internet or even IRL, People have diferent ways of reacting to things, criticizing them because of such is just plain dumb. You need to grow up and start facing reality if you think that men are pussies because they cry due to the examples that you gave. |
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dankickyou said: I wouldn't say that writing poetry makes you a pussy, since those are two completely different things. Weeping over poems is one thing though.Being emotional is totally different from being a pussy! A warrior poet may weep at a sad poem one day and jump into the teeth of battle the next day. Yes, how you react to and deal with hardship can definitely show what kind of person you are, whether you're a wimp or you're not. I'm not trying to set up an ideal here, that's just the way things are. If a man cries often and for silly reasons, then he's acting more like a woman would, and since when is it manly to act like a woman? |
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Aylaine said: Yep, that's basically what I meant. I wasn't refuting any of his arguments : his views of gender roles (in this case masculinity in particular) just seem particularly reductive and unhealthy, which makes him come off as a close-minded person (at the very least regarding this specific matter).BryanBossling said: Sapewloth said: No, really whenever someone has a differing point of view people just hit you with: ''oh, well you're just close-minded'', in an effort to make your opponent's argument seem invalid. I am a very open minded person, believe it or not, I just don't think that crying is very manly.You may not like the term, but it certainly means something in the current discussion, given how narrow-minded you are regarding what masculinity is supposed to represent. I'll have you know that I also teared up during Marley & Me (although I didn't cry), although it's not my own manliness that I'm trying to prove here. She might have been referring to the adherence of gender roles, which tend to be narrow minded in nature. I could be wrong; if I am, then count me on the ship instead. The sooner they go, the better. Everyone cries. It isn't a sign of anything other then being human. |
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Sapewloth said: Some people believe that giving birth and breastfeeding are potential acts of manliness. We all have our own ideas of what constitutes manliness, and in my opinion, crying like a little bitch is not fitting of someone who wants to be a man.Yep, that's basically what I meant. I wasn't refuting any of his arguments : his views of gender roles (in this case masculinity in particular) just seem particularly reductive and unhealthy, which makes him come off as a close-minded person (at the very least regarding this specific matter). |
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