Do you think it's wrong to love someone of the same sex?
Yes
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No
80.4%
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525 votes
Indigo said: Drunk_Samurai said: Tachii said: By 2012, I hear. But I'm quite skeptic. But once again, based on the demography, it's no surprise the majority selected no. The ones who said yes didn't even post in this thread I bet. I voted Yes... my reasons are posted above. there's plenty of people in the world already though (probably too many), the gays/lesbians are doing us a favor with population control tbh. |
Unkind said: Indigo said: Drunk_Samurai said: Tachii said: By 2012, I hear. But I'm quite skeptic. But once again, based on the demography, it's no surprise the majority selected no. The ones who said yes didn't even post in this thread I bet. I voted Yes... my reasons are posted above. there's plenty of people in the world already though (probably too many), the gays/lesbians are doing us a favor with population control tbh. I'm considering all the ages so we can get to the root of the situation. If it was like this all those years ago we wouldn't be here today. But yes, you're right, it's even a favor these days. |
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| Nothing against them. However, I have something against people that is super gay in front of everybody and talk all the time, if that makes any sense. Kind of the stereotypical gay person. They do exist though. But if they are like regular people and so on, nothing against it;) |
| If nobody is hurt, how could it be wrong to love somebody. Love is a very positive feeling. |
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traed said: Rule 34. It's already happening in their minds even as I type this.Yaoi scene still not going to happen for you though ^^; Indigo said: Good man. We need more of us, whether that's moral relativism or pure nihilism.I don't really care for morals. |
Vagabond said: ukonkivi said: DrkNoTeS said: well skinny jeans on guys are fking hot This is false. Fixed Why don't you tell us what you think is hot on guys then, Vagabond. |
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| Me = Abandoned Ship I didn't have the foresight to predict this situation. But I guess I'll answer. I have no problem judging both sides of the spectrum when it comes to looks. This dude has got style: EDIT: Here's an afterthought. Are we talking semi-tight Levi's or full out ball squeezing girl pants? |
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| I don't think its wrong to love someone of the same sex, I have fallen in love with a girl before (only problem is that homosexual relationships seem more complicated than heterosexual ones). . . . I think its stupid to be judged by who you love/are attracted too. . One thing that does bother me is that why are lesbian couples more accepted than homosexual male couples. . . . I think its pretty stupid for people to see one not as bad as another |
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Vagabond said: Me = Abandoned Ship I didn't have the foresight to predict this situation. But I guess I'll answer. I have no problem judging both sides of the spectrum when it comes to looks. This dude has got style: EDIT: Here's an afterthought. Are we talking semi-tight Levi's or full out ball squeezing girl pants? shit, I like men but the first thing I saw when I thought that picture was "wow she's pretty, wait what are we talking about?" Such a nice dress, looks very good on her. /had no problem with judging the opposite sex either. I just would hate to be in a relationship with a girl. I don't really like their personalities as much (except sometimes. Who knows, maybe I'll fall in love with a woman..! Except I have someone so..), I don't ever want to touch them in any meaningful way and the sex... Well I just like guys. I just don't see a problem with people who DO like someone of the same sex! I don't even get why it's an issue. Honestly, who cares? I don't see why people make this an issue. :( Oh, and balls tight = bad but semi-tight Levi's = delicious. |
| No I don't think it's wrong, people are free to do what they want with their own bodies. I don't see other men as attractive myself, but why should I stress over the fact that some men do? What pisses me off is when gay people go parading around like fucking fairies, like they're trying make some kind of statement. You look like an idiot, cut that shit out. Whether you'd rather get freaky with males or females (or both) makes no difference to me, but keep it to yourself. Sometimes it's necessary to let others know about your preferences, like when someone actually asks, but most of the time there's no point. Why let something like that define you as a person anyway? No personality if you ask me. |
| I dont mind bisexuals but it does seem kinda wrong |
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ukonkivi said: NoFC said: I'm cool with it, but I personally believe it is irregular and may be linked to some form of psychological abnormality. Well now...care to explain? I agree...what the hell? |
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infiltrate said: ukonkivi said: NoFC said: I'm cool with it, but I personally believe it is irregular and may be linked to some form of psychological abnormality. Well now...care to explain? I agree...what the hell? Just ignorance. |
| I don't care what others preferences are but when they have gay parade, it's out of hand and it f-ing annoying. I'm not going to comment and it won't bother me if I simply meet them and know about it but they don't have to tell everyone on the streets and be proud of it. |
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Drunk_Samurai said: infiltrate said: ukonkivi said: NoFC said: I'm cool with it, but I personally believe it is irregular and may be linked to some form of psychological abnormality. Well now...care to explain? I agree...what the hell? Just ignorance. well the idea is okay but i would never generalize like that.... i think they sounded ignorant but just put things in a harsh way >_< but if they were being dumb and calling it a disease then thats dumb and flame on >=D please note im a straight male so im not like using any inside info here =P okay so its like this they were trying to say maybe: •it could be caused by something different in the brain, but to call it an abnormality sounds cruel but if you think about it we (all humanity) are mutants created by abnormalities so thats doesnt make it wrong in any way at all. It could be like having a different gendered brain or having a receptor in the brain react to a different pheromone than it normally would thus turning the person homosexual. Its not a mental condition like schizophrenia or anything like that, its more like a preference for foods almost more so(well okay not exactly because you normally can change the foods you like by trying it and that doesnt happen in sexuality so much unless the person was bisexual to begin with and didnt know it). This difference may or may not have a function, it could be to keep population down or have no real meaning at all but it doesnt matter anyways because its not hurting people. That isnt the only cause though in everyone, there are some people who turned homosexual because of psychological things but im sure thats a much smaller percentile than those born that way. Weather thats a problem or not is up to them though. I supose it is possible if someone is open minded enough they can be pansexual/bisexual without any physical brain or psychologicle reasons for it but i think that would be a very very small percentile because that would mean going against what your brain is designed to react to. I mean i could love a guy in theory but i would never have sex with him or anything physical because im just not attracted in that way to any males no matter how much i can like them. please dont flame me, i am beng nice and smart with theories not ignorant and im not against anyone if you saw the stuff i said before in here >_< |
wangg said: I think that homosexuals should be persecuted like pedophiles. They both have something wrong with their heads. Or the other option is to to let child molestors do what they want. Move along, move along people. It's not good to feed the trolls. |
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darkrequim said: I have, and my comment still stays. Maybe, you would have realized that I've read your comment and am aware of Yemem's status if you read MY comment. And by the way, you commented on the entire Islamic world as a whole, rather then just Yemen. Not every country in a region is connected in morals. I commented on the middle east. Now, Yemen is not the only countries where Mullahs rape lolis. It happens in Oman, Saudi Arabia (used to, at least), Egypt (same as the Saudis though, it's been cracked down on), Iraq, and from what I know, also in Afghanistan and Pakistan, although they're not inherently part of the Middle east. Since mullahs are basically the cornerstone of Islam, wouldn't you agree that calling Islam hypocritical in this context is justified? On one side they stone homosexuals to death, but on the other they abuse smaller children, some even pre-pubescent. Oh and every country in the middle east is connected by morals because simply, they have the same religion. Of course, there are small variations between different Sunni groups such as Wahhabism and more moderatre groups, and the differences between the Sunnis and Shi'ites. wangg said: I think that homosexuals should be persecuted like pedophiles. They both have something wrong with their heads. Or the other option is to to let child molestors do what they want. Alexander the Great was gay, your argument is invalid. from your point of view, we should persecute all of those who have a mental illnesses (even though pedophilia and homophilia aren't even related to "having something wrong with their minds")? Ie. the mentally handicapped. I believe Hitler had the same ideals as you. |
Baman said: traed said: Rule 34. It's already happening in their minds even as I type this.Yaoi scene still not going to happen for you though ^^; Indigo said: Good man. We need more of us, whether that's moral relativism or pure nihilism.I don't really care for morals. Lol I can't imagine it even if it's the truth. Reality is more cruel than I think |
| Pedophilia is argued against on mostly different grounds than homosexuality. Informed consent is challengable. But homosexuality has several completely different matters society is against. Also, I don't see where you're going with okay for the time. So you're saying something is only okay if a culture accepts it? /trollfeed. |
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wangg said: Hitler wasn't all bad. Fascism had many good points. I think your argument died there. He revitalized the German economy. That's the only positive thing i can think of, and that has absolutely nothing to do with his racial policies. Anyway, there is nothing wrong with the brain of a gay person as far as science can prove. You don't turn gay or a pedophile suddenly because you hit your head against a table. Both are not accepted because they are viewed as wrong in certain cultures. These cultures in turn justify their response to these issues by saying that being gay (and pedophiles etc etc..) is a mental disorder. |
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ukonkivi said: I'm not really a fan of fascism. Just fascinated by Nazi Germany and Nazi mysticism. Authoritarianism is no fun, Libertarian Socialism is much better. Meritocratic liberal demo-autocrism ftw. |
Sohei said: Actually, according to studies conducted on people who are solely pedophiles, their IQ is generally lower than the rest of the populace by a relatively significant margin. Gays, on the other hand, are perfectly normal brain-wise.Anyway, there is nothing wrong with the brain of a gay person as far as science can prove. You don't turn gay or a pedophile suddenly because you hit your head against a table. Both are not accepted because they are viewed as wrong in certain cultures. These cultures in turn justify their response to these issues by saying that being gay (and pedophiles etc etc..) is a mental disorder. |
Zetsubou1117 said: Sohei said: Actually, according to studies conducted on people who are solely pedophiles, their IQ is generally lower than the rest of the populace by a relatively significant margin. Gays, on the other hand, are perfectly normal brain-wise.Anyway, there is nothing wrong with the brain of a gay person as far as science can prove. You don't turn gay or a pedophile suddenly because you hit your head against a table. Both are not accepted because they are viewed as wrong in certain cultures. These cultures in turn justify their response to these issues by saying that being gay (and pedophiles etc etc..) is a mental disorder. Just from reading the abstract here, I'm not sure whether or not to consider the results of that study valid (as in, applicable to all pedophiles). The people in this study were: 1. All male 2. Already in a "specialty clinic", meaning that either they were dumb enough to admit that they were a pedophile, or they committed some sort of crime involving pedophilia. In other words, I don't think this study gives an accurate representation of all the pedophiles out there..it's just a representation of the pedos dumb enough to get caught :P |
Zetsubou1117 said: Sohei said: Actually, according to studies conducted on people who are solely pedophiles, their IQ is generally lower than the rest of the populace by a relatively significant margin. Gays, on the other hand, are perfectly normal brain-wise.Anyway, there is nothing wrong with the brain of a gay person as far as science can prove. You don't turn gay or a pedophile suddenly because you hit your head against a table. Both are not accepted because they are viewed as wrong in certain cultures. These cultures in turn justify their response to these issues by saying that being gay (and pedophiles etc etc..) is a mental disorder. what SniW said. Although i would like to add that even if the study proved true for all pedophiles in the world, that woulnd't mean it would be a mental disorder, would it? It would mean people with less intelligence are more easily attracted to little girls, which has nothing to do with brain disorders. Unless a low IQ is defined as a brain disorder. |
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Drunk_Samurai said: Looks like we got two real trolls in this thread this time. Including yourself, i presume? |
Sohei said: Drunk_Samurai said: Looks like we got two real trolls in this thread this time. Including yourself, i presume? No. Flibbertigibbet and wangg. |
Sohei said: I believe Hitler had the same ideals as you. THIS IS A BAD ARGUMENT AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD FOR MAKING IT |
Drunk_Samurai said: Sohei said: Drunk_Samurai said: Looks like we got two real trolls in this thread this time. Including yourself, i presume? No. Flibbertigibbet and wangg. cool. I guess i just belong to spam. Plate said: Sohei said: I believe Hitler had the same ideals as you. THIS IS A BAD ARGUMENT AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD FOR MAKING IT Every thread needs to have at least one reference to hitler. |
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Sohei said: wangg said: Hitler wasn't all bad. Fascism had many good points. I think your argument died there. He revitalized the German economy. That's the only positive thing i can think of, and that has absolutely nothing to do with his racial policies. Oh oh! Politics. /jumps in quickly. fascism was only ever truly observed in Mussolini's regime, as he invented fascism. Hitler was about as fascist as the USSR was communist. Took the idea but in reality too much fucked up shit makes it a bad case study and doesn't really show what that type of political philosophy really does. (He believed in the superior race while Mussolini believed in the superior state!) Not that having some dictator was a new idea. Hell, it happened in Rome before (Mussolini wanted to rebuild the greatness of the Roman Empire). But fascism is uniquely Italian. It's not the worst political ideology. Being a libertarian this may sound weird from me, but I can see some positives. I mean, Mussolini made the trains run on time. :D |
selective_yellow said: Sohei said: wangg said: Hitler wasn't all bad. Fascism had many good points. I think your argument died there. He revitalized the German economy. That's the only positive thing i can think of, and that has absolutely nothing to do with his racial policies. Oh oh! Politics. /jumps in quickly. fascism was only ever truly observed in Mussolini's regime, as he invented fascism. Hitler was about as fascist as the USSR was communist. Took the idea but in reality too much fucked up shit makes it a bad case study and doesn't really show what that type of political philosophy really does. (He believed in the superior race while Mussolini believed in the superior state!) Not that having some dictator was a new idea. Hell, it happened in Rome before (Mussolini wanted to rebuild the greatness of the Roman Empire). But fascism is uniquely Italian. It's not the worst political ideology. Being a libertarian this may sound weird from me, but I can see some positives. I mean, Mussolini made the trains run on time. :D lol. Well, in the generic sense, nazism is racial fascism while mussolini's fascism is state fascism. Anyway, i understand where you are coming from, but it seems to be in fashion nowadays to refer to Nazism as Facism, which is why i used the word. : ) |
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ukonkivi said: This isn't a relevant response you just made. lol. |
Sohei said: I wasn't implying that all pedophiles necessarily have mental disorders, I'm only saying that the study showed that those who are attracted to prepubescent children are generally of lower intelligences than that of the general populace. what SniW said. Although i would like to add that even if the study proved true for all pedophiles in the world, that woulnd't mean it would be a mental disorder, would it? It would mean people with less intelligence are more easily attracted to little girls, which has nothing to do with brain disorders. Unless a low IQ is defined as a brain disorder. sniW said: Thanks, I wasn't aware of those specifics. I guess it would make sense that those subjects' IQ's are lower if they're that dumb.Just from reading the abstract here, I'm not sure whether or not to consider the results of that study valid (as in, applicable to all pedophiles). The people in this study were: 1. All male 2. Already in a "specialty clinic", meaning that either they were dumb enough to admit that they were a pedophile, or they committed some sort of crime involving pedophilia. In other words, I don't think this study gives an accurate representation of all the pedophiles out there..it's just a representation of the pedos dumb enough to get caught :P |
Zetsubou1117 said: Thanks, I wasn't aware of those specifics. I guess it would make sense that those subjects' IQ's are lower if they're that dumb. Something is only a crime if you get caught ^_^ |
| I'm gay, so I obviously have no problem with it. :P Though, the number of people who do have a problem with it is upsetting. :\ I don't go around lisping, or making flamboyent gestures with my hands. I'm just a normal guy like the rest of you, who is forced to like the same sex. It's not a choice I made, and so I'm sorry if you think that it's abnormal, or if you hold me at the same level of a paedophile...though such people are obviously ignorant to what persecution is actually like. I live a life of secrecy and lies because of those people. :( Well, I've reached my verbosity quota for today. |
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Shadoukun said: I'm gay, so I obviously have no problem with it. :P Though, the number of people who do have a problem with it is upsetting. : I don't go around lisping, or making flamboyent gestures with my hands. I'm just a normal guy like the rest of you, who is forced to like the same sex. It's not a choice I made, and so I'm sorry if you think that it's abnormal, or if you hold me at the same level of a paedophile...though such people are obviously ignorant to what persecution is actually like. I live a life of secrecy and lies because of those people. :( Well, I've reached my verbosity quota for today. Awe dont be sad D= *hug* ^^ lol but yeah the annoying gay guys ruined it for you guys some though.... being gay doesnt make someone act that way but there is a good amount of them and they can be like nails on a chalkboard. I dont really consider you the same as a pedophiliac and i dont think most people do, only the stupid ones. |
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| Love is love. Who you love doesn't matter; it's the fact that you love someone. If someone loves a person of the same gender, then that's just good. Honestly, I don't see what's so strange about liking someone of your own gender compared to liking someone of the opposite. |
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