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Nov 1, 2013 5:52 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Elizabeth ;.;

Well damn, this is taking it a bit far. Now hoping for some payback soon. Heh, maybe we'll get to see Satellizer's history after all with her history soon judging by the events of this episode, especially with that ending.
Nov 1, 2013 9:35 AM
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Looks like we'll see Holly and Louis in the next episode, I don't want ''that'' to happen for those who have read the siblings arc, so I hope the odds are with me.
Chiffon seemed mad at what happened with Elizabeth.

That fail of Julia at breasts grabbing Cassie
Nov 1, 2013 10:08 AM
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I'm confused by this episode. If I'm not mistaken Kazuya and Satellizer already met Louis and all that other stuff right. If my memory servers best didn't the sibling arc happen before the e-pandora arc? Just felt weird because Satellizer got all scared when she saw him. Also thought that Satellizer talked to her step-mom on the phone? I don't remember them going to the L. Bridget manor?

Any way. Hate what that bastard did to Elizabeth. Feel sorry for Andre. I hope Satellizer is going to ask for help.

Dat grope fail. Lol.
Nov 1, 2013 11:43 AM
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Poor Elizabeth. She failed to carry out nobility obliges. She should've met her father to tell the truth about the project. Hopefully Satellizer will make it.
Nov 1, 2013 2:27 PM
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Poor Elizabeth :(

So her brother Luis is the one that made Satellizer the way she is >:(

I keep hearing that they skipped the sibling arc, it must of been pretty nasty stuff to skip it.
Nov 1, 2013 2:29 PM
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I like the way things develop
Corporate scandals and more plots
Not the torture

Kazuya is back in the picture as well
Nov 1, 2013 2:47 PM
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It was time for Kazuya to come back.And finally we will see Satellizer past.
Nov 1, 2013 3:04 PM
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We get to see the El Bridget family. Finally Kazuya gets some screen time. Poor Elizabeth.
Nov 1, 2013 3:06 PM
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Another crappy episode...
Who would have guessed....?

So this time, they screwed up the order of the story arcs...
Which needlessly created plotholes (and will most likely create another in a few episodes).

And while Elizabeths torture was quite shocking in the manga, this time the effects of the torture are far less severe.
Additionally it's quite hard to feel sorry for her, when in this version, she is a psychopath cruzifying people for no real reason, instead of the charismatic leader-type she is in the manga...
Nov 1, 2013 3:22 PM
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Did not expect them to have the sibling arc :O
I guess they put it in the middle to not make it all depression psychological and creepy stuff at once
SO people that want character development, here it comes
Nov 1, 2013 3:24 PM
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Walkampf said:
Another crappy episode...
Who would have guessed....?

So this time, they screwed up the order of the story arcs...
Which needlessly created plotholes (and will most likely create another in a few episodes).

And while Elizabeths torture was quite shocking in the manga, this time the effects of the torture are far less severe.
Additionally it's quite hard to feel sorry for her, when in this version, she is a psychopath cruzifying people for no real reason, instead of the charismatic leader-type she is in the manga...

I still see her as a leader, i don't see why you think she is a pyschopath in the adaption. And it didn't really create any plot holes, they slid it in fine imo
Nov 1, 2013 3:32 PM
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Antearion said:
I'm confused by this episode. If I'm not mistaken Kazuya and Satellizer already met Louis and all that other stuff right. If my memory servers best didn't the sibling arc happen before the e-pandora arc? Just felt weird because Satellizer got all scared when she saw him. Also thought that Satellizer talked to her step-mom on the phone? I don't remember them going to the L. Bridget manor?

Any way. Hate what that bastard did to Elizabeth. Feel sorry for Andre. I hope Satellizer is going to ask for help.

Dat grope fail. Lol.
It did happen first but I am guessing the production staff figured it would be smarter to change it around.


But anyways time to drop Freezing Vibration for now.
Nov 1, 2013 3:33 PM

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Gonna be some sweet sweet rage for sibling arc.
Nov 1, 2013 3:34 PM

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What's the f*cking point in adding the siblings arc now when they have already fucked up their characters?

EDIT: I guess one can only hope that they get the characters straight after this tho.
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Well.... fuck, NTR/Fucked-up Morality/Sibling Arc incoming.
Nov 1, 2013 3:56 PM

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I still see her as a leader, i don't see why you think she is a pyschopath in the adaption.


As i already wrote, she cruzified satellizer because she didn't do as Elizabeth told her to.
Eilzabeth instantly snapped and attackted Satellizer with her weapons.

ponygon123 said:

And it didn't really create any plot holes, they slid it in fine imo


It did create a plot hole:


And by the way, it is highly unlikable that Satellizer whould be allowed to just take a flight to a different location. If the Chevalier whould have just the slightest bit of common sense, they'd monitor Satellizer, since she had contact with Elizabeth right before Elizabeth leaked her report.

So, there you have not one but several plot holes.
Nov 1, 2013 4:03 PM

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Walkampf said:
ponygon123 said:

And it didn't really create any plot holes, they slid it in fine imo


It did create a plot hole:


And by the way, it is highly unlikable that Satellizer whould be allowed to just take a flight to a different location. If the Chevalier whould have just the slightest bit of common sense, they'd monitor Satellizer, since she had contact with Elizabeth right before Elizabeth leaked her report.

So, there you have not one but several plot holes.


Throwing in the siblings arc or even adding it now seems really stupid, I agree.
Nov 1, 2013 4:08 PM
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Liph said:
Walkampf said:
ponygon123 said:

And it didn't really create any plot holes, they slid it in fine imo


It did create a plot hole:


And by the way, it is highly unlikable that Satellizer whould be allowed to just take a flight to a different location. If the Chevalier whould have just the slightest bit of common sense, they'd monitor Satellizer, since she had contact with Elizabeth right before Elizabeth leaked her report.

So, there you have not one but several plot holes.


Throwing in the siblings arc or even adding it now seems really stupid, I agree.


I don't know, maybe the production team got high and was like: Ho shit, look at dem sheeps watching our anime. Let's troll them by adding the infamous NTR arc.
Nov 1, 2013 4:22 PM

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Let alone that the siblings arc is easily the WORST arc in the whole damn series to be honest. Really...REALLY unnecessary, and very rage inducing. I wonder if they are going to cover everything or make it fluffier.

Nov 1, 2013 4:26 PM

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Xinception said:
Liph said:
Walkampf said:
ponygon123 said:

And it didn't really create any plot holes, they slid it in fine imo


It did create a plot hole:


And by the way, it is highly unlikable that Satellizer whould be allowed to just take a flight to a different location. If the Chevalier whould have just the slightest bit of common sense, they'd monitor Satellizer, since she had contact with Elizabeth right before Elizabeth leaked her report.

So, there you have not one but several plot holes.


Throwing in the siblings arc or even adding it now seems really stupid, I agree.


I don't know, maybe the production team got high and was like: Ho shit, look at dem sheeps watching our anime. Let's troll them by adding the infamous NTR arc.


Couldn't agree more. This anime is getting worse every episode I watch. The iron clad rule of anime, if it doesn't follow the manga then 99% of the time it will turn out shit. Really wtf fuck are they doing adding in the siblings arc now. They should have just done it first, its common sense. I think its about time to drop it.
Nov 1, 2013 4:32 PM

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Couldn't agree more. This anime is getting worse every episode I watch. The iron clad rule of anime, if it doesn't follow the manga then 99% of the time it will turn out shit. Really wtf fuck are they doing adding in the siblings arc now. They should have just done it first, its common sense. I think its about time to drop it.


When is this the "iron clad" rule of anime? What are you drunk? Lets not get to far ahead of ourselves just cause this one is coming out a little rough around the edges.
Nov 1, 2013 4:43 PM

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Nooooo, just when I thought they had skipped the Sibling Arc. Here they are mixing the Alaska and Sibling Arc together. I don't think I can deal with the Sibling Arc again, its pretty depressing and truly rage worthy. Also Elizabeth's face after she was tortured, was pretty sad too. Her father is an idiot, that's all I have to say about that. Anyway Sibling Arc here we come, I have my punching bags ready.
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Nooooo, just when I thought they had skipped the Sibling Arc. Here they are mixing the Alaska and Sibling Arc together. I don't think I can deal with the Sibling Arc again, its pretty depressing. Also Elizabeth's face after she was tortured, was pretty sad too. Her father is an idiot, that's all I have to say about that. Anyway Sibling Arc here we come.


and here we thought we were safe for once. WOW! talk about a wake-up call....
Nov 1, 2013 7:49 PM
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Woah, Satellizer wheelchair and Mably family in trouble.

View Elizabeth scene lying in the chair, was something hard.
Nov 1, 2013 7:55 PM

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i feel so bad or elizabeth, after she did that for the e-pandoras :(.
But i see a bali party in sibling paradise approaching
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Nov 1, 2013 8:02 PM
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well i guess is like 2 for 1 arc in same showing or yea retcon works for anime version only on it.

oh yea now wonder what next?
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Nov 1, 2013 8:50 PM
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I started reading the manga to where this episode left of thanks to the comments here lol
Nov 1, 2013 9:15 PM
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Mr Rape Luis the 1st is back and grown up. Possible Spoiler:


Mod Edit: Possible Spoiler label added as well as spoiler tags.
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Damn... Why did they screw up the order of the story ?

Why did they put the best arc and the worst arc together ? I'm failing to understand any logic.
Nov 2, 2013 3:03 AM

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Hmm, and I thought they were gonna skip that whole arc. If they go through with it next episode, I will drop the series mid-episode because it's fucking pointless to shoehorn that useless shit in the middle of a plot about how corrupt the E-Pandora businessmen are.
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Nov 2, 2013 3:59 AM

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Ah, no, Elizabeth! I was worried she was getting some sort of "death flag" with her heart-to-heart with Amelia last ep, but I didn't think they'd go that far, damn.

I feel like this series is a lot better than the first one. I loved the first one, it was really funny, but this one has a much better storyline. This was the best episode so far too and I actually just straight-up upped my rating after it. I'm super excited for next week now, especially now Louis has turned up. I seriously wasn't expecting that.
Nov 2, 2013 8:26 AM

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So Elizabeth is mentally gone, right.

Great episode!!!
Nov 2, 2013 8:40 AM

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Looks like we'll see Holly and Louis in the next episode, I don't want ''that'' to happen for those who have read the siblings arc, so I hope the odds are with me.
Chiffon seemed mad at what happened with Elizabeth.

That fail of Julia at breasts grabbing Cassie


I'm with you in that 1 I don't want to see "that" too :p
But judging from the changes on the anime I think they won't show any of that.
Nov 2, 2013 8:48 AM

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Damn you !!! what did you do to poor Elizabeth....
Nov 2, 2013 9:59 AM
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Man, they've added the sibling arc, so, It looks like its gonna be a sibling arc for the next 3 eps.

Kudos to Elizabeth Marbly, I now have some respect for that nudist bitch, as for that old man, he kinda deserves to be in an electric char.
Nov 2, 2013 2:14 PM
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Siblings arc in the middle of e-pandora arc. Is bad surprise the only thing they can pull on us now?
Nov 2, 2013 2:37 PM

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Antearion said:
I'm confused by this episode. If I'm not mistaken Kazuya and Satellizer already met Louis and all that other stuff right. If my memory servers best didn't the sibling arc happen before the e-pandora arc? Just felt weird because Satellizer got all scared when she saw him. Also thought that Satellizer talked to her step-mom on the phone? I don't remember them going to the L. Bridget manor?

Any way. Hate what that bastard did to Elizabeth. Feel sorry for Andre. I hope Satellizer is going to ask for help.

Dat grope fail. Lol.
It did happen first but I am guessing the production staff figured it would be smarter to change it around.


But anyways time to drop Freezing Vibration for now.

O-M-G

What the producers are doing? I'm almost to drop it as well...
Nov 2, 2013 3:29 PM
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That bitch ass cunt is back, i seriously hope someone will fuck him up. I hope it will be Kazuya that finds out about their history and he gets pissed off and beats him up or Satella will take revenge either way is good as long he gets fucked up.
Nov 2, 2013 3:49 PM

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I'm happy they seem to be doing the siblings arc (most people hate it because of what happens, but it's actually good for the Stella's character dev), but now the timing just seems really far off...
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Nov 2, 2013 7:32 PM

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What the fuck? This is an adaptation decay. Good job on screwing the story arc here whoever studio you are.
Nov 2, 2013 9:12 PM

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wtf..her brother that molested her...
Nov 3, 2013 12:49 AM

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Wow what an unexpected event ! Can't wait next episode


Nov 3, 2013 2:08 AM

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I knew they gonna add tht arc is some way this season(1 ep is enough). Tht toture scene....
Nov 3, 2013 8:43 AM

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Well, that's a whole lot posts from disappointed manga fans. And here I thought this season was actually getting good, or at least was doing much better than the first season. Maybe I'll just pick up the manga instead.
Nov 3, 2013 10:48 AM

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Wtf...The sibling arc in the middle of the E-pandora arc????
Don't the animators know that the sibling arc was the worst and the most rage creating arc of whole Freezing????
I'm still gonna watch, but if that scene happen then I'm sure most of the people (including me) will drop the sow.
Nov 3, 2013 11:28 AM

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wtf..her brother that molested her...


It sounds like sibling arc is the best arc. Hope they adapt all those "disgusting" parts that people are talking about. I do like to watch strong emotional scenes.

Also, I don't care if this anime is not 100% faithful to manga. As anime only watcher, I'm enjoying watching this.
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more plot holes incoming

really...what the producers are doing to this show?
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A very odd way to get Satella and Kazuya to the hotel. I read the sibling arc after reading how everyone was up in arms that it was skipped. It really doesn't make sense to include it now.
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Well, that's a whole lot posts from disappointed manga fans. And here I thought this season was actually getting good, or at least was doing much better than the first season. Maybe I'll just pick up the manga instead.


This season is going fine. I'm laughing at some of the rage going on in here. I read the manga as well, but I have no problem with the anime doing things differently. There's no rule that a story in two different mediums have to be identical to each other. Also just because the anime isn't mimicking the manga, that doesn't make the events "plot holes".

As far as I'm concerned, if some of the people in this thread want to drop the anime, then they should just drop it and stop pestering the rest of us about it. Let those of us who are enjoying the series to continue enjoying it. (But everyone already knows that none of them are going to actually drop the series anyway. So be prepared to hear the same complaints next week.)
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StrawHat_ said:
Well, that's a whole lot posts from disappointed manga fans. And here I thought this season was actually getting good, or at least was doing much better than the first season. Maybe I'll just pick up the manga instead.


This season is going fine. I'm laughing at some of the rage going on in here. I read the manga as well, but I have no problem with the anime doing things differently. There's no rule that a story in two different mediums have to be identical to each other. Also just because the anime isn't mimicking the manga, that doesn't make the events "plot holes".

As far as I'm concerned, if some of the people in this thread want to drop the anime, then they should just drop it and stop pestering the rest of us about it. Let those of us who are enjoying the series to continue enjoying it. (But everyone already knows that none of them are going to actually drop the series anyway. So be prepared to hear the same complaints next week.)

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