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Mar 31, 2009 5:50 AM

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Ryushi said:
I doubt anyone will read what i wrote, specially when its hidden over the least armaggedon that went loose on MAL.
But anyway....
It was an very good show.
It passed surpassed my rating system with flying grades.

One thing people complained and i find compleatly stupid is the fact that marianne wasn't dead after all.
Fuck that. Seems pretty much original and interesting for me.


Too bad i didn't had Nina killed, but i got Schinaizer, the old fuck, Marianne, and some stupid assholes killed instead.

Heh, i can't bring myself to like suzaku, but i really don't hate him anymore.

Damn this show is good in manipulating people's opinion.

I won't bash on people who didn't like it, because i found a lt of flaws in this anime as well.
But that really didn't tarnish the anime for me at all.

After all its not like its posible for something so perfect to exist.

And besides, I disliked death note, but its not like i went berserk over the fans...
(Actually,. i did like it. But after the happenings in the end of the first middle, i figured out it would go towards a trainwreck.
Guess what i was right. Thank god i bailed out before it.
So i could enjoy Death note without havint to lower its score.)

On a small side note:


Hail Hail!
:)
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finally finished this show... and it was pretty good overall. I really didnt like marianne not being died (i found that stupid), a whole bunch of ppl where they made a big deal out of saying they were died but 3 or 4 episodes later wtf they're back??, and some plot twists were weird (cause it was like some died person camp back and blah blah blah).

I thought Nina really should have died.... Shirley should have been one of those that came back from the died...

either way this show to be really good... character development was amazing. the story line had its problems but overall it was good.

I gave this show a 10 (i kinda wanted to give a 9 but ive given worse shows 10s...)
Apr 6, 2009 6:46 AM

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The final score

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Apr 12, 2009 7:05 AM
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I cried so much watching Lelouch dying -_-;, even though I didn't like him that much in the start. At the end it was very touching though, how he had to spoil his own name in history to create peace and a new era for everyone else. =/ He did an awful lot of good but all he'll be remembered is as the "Devil" or "evil". I felt so bad for Nunally... but I'm glad that Lelouch didn't die maniacally like Light did in Death Note. >8O That was really crazy. Ughh.. poor Lelouch<3

Even though I hated his death, it was very fitting. ='C It's like.. he /had/ to die in order for the story to have a good ending. ><;

I wonder what will happen to CC though. 0.0? Is she just going to be immortal forever? I feel really bad for her. D= Having to live through all of these pains... gahh, and Suzaku! They had a grave for him, but he's not dead... so is he still posing as Zero or doesn't everyone already know that Suzaku is Zero now and he's the one who killed Lelouch? And Anya! She got her memories back... I wish they could've added a little more about that actually. =3 (Lol I still have so many lingering questions... -sigh- It's a shame that a 3rd season seems impossible.. -tear-)

I had really hoped that Kallen would die. -_-; She's probably one of my least favorite characters... I didn't like Shirley much either but Shirley was a lot better then Kallen. Nina, she still kind of bugs me.

Well, I really thought that this show was done well. =) But... the transitions I noticed were terrible! They could've been much smoother and more comprehendable. =/ But that's ok I guess... Code Geass was amazing<3
I agree with a lot of people though, xD. I hated it in the beginning cause I just thought "Oh wow, rip off of Death Note?" But it's really much better.
Apr 12, 2009 6:56 PM

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Even though I already knew he was going to die (after all, with watching CG this late) I still cried. ;_;
Apr 12, 2009 7:18 PM

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I cried so much watching Lelouch dying -_-;, even though I didn't like him that much in the start. At the end it was very touching though, how he had to spoil his own name in history to create peace and a new era for everyone else. =/ He did an awful lot of good but all he'll be remembered is as the "Devil" or "evil". I felt so bad for Nunally... but I'm glad that Lelouch didn't die maniacally like Light did in Death Note. >8O That was really crazy. Ughh.. poor Lelouch<3

Even though I hated his death, it was very fitting. ='C It's like.. he /had/ to die in order for the story to have a good ending. ><;

I wonder what will happen to CC though. 0.0? Is she just going to be immortal forever? I feel really bad for her. D= Having to live through all of these pains... gahh, and Suzaku! They had a grave for him, but he's not dead... so is he still posing as Zero or doesn't everyone already know that Suzaku is Zero now and he's the one who killed Lelouch? And Anya! She got her memories back... I wish they could've added a little more about that actually. =3 (Lol I still have so many lingering questions... -sigh- It's a shame that a 3rd season seems impossible.. -tear-)

I had really hoped that Kallen would die. -_-; She's probably one of my least favorite characters... I didn't like Shirley much either but Shirley was a lot better then Kallen. Nina, she still kind of bugs me.

Well, I really thought that this show was done well. =) But... the transitions I noticed were terrible! They could've been much smoother and more comprehendable. =/ But that's ok I guess... Code Geass was amazing<3
I agree with a lot of people though, xD. I hated it in the beginning cause I just thought "Oh wow, rip off of Death Note?" But it's really much better.


You said all I wanted to say, actually. :D
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lulu didn't die, c.c resurrected him and he is the guy operating the thing at the end. O.O
LuluxC.C, she is not going to alone cuz lulu promised her that he wont leave her no matter what.
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MikuBikini said:
lulu didn't die, c.c resurrected him and he is the guy operating the thing at the end. O.O
LuluxC.C, she is not going to alone cuz lulu promised her that he wont leave her no matter what.
And so someone fired FLEJA on nina, n she died.
GOOD ENDING.
Apr 17, 2009 6:13 AM

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MikuBikini said:
lulu didn't die, c.c resurrected him and he is the guy operating the thing at the end. O.O
LuluxC.C, she is not going to alone cuz lulu promised her that he wont leave her no matter what.


Wow! Thanks! Someone actually explained the whole thing really clearly in one of the post... which made a hell lot of sense & i actually rewatched the ending ..

I'm so glad Lulu is somewhere out there!

Yes all HAIL LELOUCH!
Apr 17, 2009 6:54 AM

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sabgian said:
MikuBikini said:
lulu didn't die, c.c resurrected him and he is the guy operating the thing at the end. O.O
LuluxC.C, she is not going to alone cuz lulu promised her that he wont leave her no matter what.


Wow! Thanks! Someone actually explained the whole thing really clearly in one of the post... which made a hell lot of sense & i actually rewatched the ending ..

I'm so glad Lulu is somewhere out there!

Yes all HAIL LELOUCH!


no he's not, he's dead :P
Apr 17, 2009 9:47 AM

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thornsap said:
sabgian said:
MikuBikini said:
lulu didn't die, c.c resurrected him and he is the guy operating the thing at the end. O.O
LuluxC.C, she is not going to alone cuz lulu promised her that he wont leave her no matter what.


Wow! Thanks! Someone actually explained the whole thing really clearly in one of the post... which made a hell lot of sense & i actually rewatched the ending ..

I'm so glad Lulu is somewhere out there!

Yes all HAIL LELOUCH!


no he's not, he's dead :P
Leave them with their denial.
it's not like its a bad thing.
Apr 18, 2009 1:21 AM

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lol, if it makes them feel better
Apr 20, 2009 12:46 PM

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T_T It's sort of touching, how Lelouch died for everyone to live in peace. He was playing the bad guy, to get rid of all the hate in the entire world.
Rest in peace.
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arsanii said:
I cried so much watching Lelouch dying -_-;, even though I didn't like him that much in the start. At the end it was very touching though, how he had to spoil his own name in history to create peace and a new era for everyone else. =/ He did an awful lot of good but all he'll be remembered is as the "Devil" or "evil". I felt so bad for Nunally... but I'm glad that Lelouch didn't die maniacally like Light did in Death Note. >8O That was really crazy. Ughh.. poor Lelouch<3

Even though I hated his death, it was very fitting. ='C It's like.. he /had/ to die in order for the story to have a good ending. ><;

I wonder what will happen to CC though. 0.0? Is she just going to be immortal forever? I feel really bad for her. D= Having to live through all of these pains... gahh, and Suzaku! They had a grave for him, but he's not dead... so is he still posing as Zero or doesn't everyone already know that Suzaku is Zero now and he's the one who killed Lelouch? And Anya! She got her memories back... I wish they could've added a little more about that actually. =3 (Lol I still have so many lingering questions... -sigh- It's a shame that a 3rd season seems impossible.. -tear-)

I had really hoped that Kallen would die. -_-; She's probably one of my least favorite characters... I didn't like Shirley much either but Shirley was a lot better then Kallen. Nina, she still kind of bugs me.

Well, I really thought that this show was done well. =) But... the transitions I noticed were terrible! They could've been much smoother and more comprehendable. =/ But that's ok I guess... Code Geass was amazing<3
I agree with a lot of people though, xD. I hated it in the beginning cause I just thought "Oh wow, rip off of Death Note?" But it's really much better.


that's exactly what I'm thinking.. T_T
though I like kallen, but not that much. well, I think Nina is my least favorite character.. XD
LOL!! I like Lelouch in the early episode of the 1st season, but the more episodes that I watched, The more that I fear and hate him.. Grr.. But as I finished watching R2, I am starting to love him.. T_T Poor Lelouch.. T^T
And I really cried real tears.. XP His death made me upset for a week..
... =_=




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WAAAAA!!!! well i sort of new lelouch was gonna die.. but still... for suzaku to actually be able to do it... and i just hoped that the people will at least acknowledge lelouch as a hero for all he's done.. they don't know the true story fo what lelouch has had to go through... but i guess that would ruin it right? if they knew that he was actually a hero? since they needed to hate him... but its still sad since he had to stain his name and be referred to as like the devil or something just for peace in the world.. well i guess at least nunnally knows right? the person he really loved so much... and kallen knows too i guess.. anyway.. it was good... very good.. although i didn't like seeing lulu die... but still... a nice show.. but what about C.C.???? why was she smiling at the end? wasn't it a loss for her too since she's still immortal, cant die, plus lulu isn't with her anymore??? or is lulu the one driving too?? also immortal??? but that doesn't make sense?? how could lulu be immortal if C.C. is still immortal right?!?!?! I DONT GET IT!! :(( well... lulu might still be alive and C.C. was talking to him.. or lulu might be dead and like C.C. was talking to herself or something.. hehe.. anyway.. don't understand that part though..
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i don't know if anyone still realize yet that the whole r2-25 aka re; aka zero requiem, "act", etc thing just really still bother me a bit.

1.timeskips there was 1 in r2-21 a month later after lelouch stop his evil parents then now he emperor & suzaku is with him really what happen in that month.
2.r2-25 have two timeskips with the 1st was two later when lelouch rules the world & 2nd after the "whacked" of emperor lelouch where the world is normal (besides where the body after 2nd timeskip???)
3.fake suzaku grave besides suzaku cannot die with effect of his live geass power.
4.the "other" zero (suzaku) only people who really know knows the TRUE zero is kallen, suzaku, c2.
5.jump on orange boy shoulder really he is also in the act (by telling "zero" to go).
6.the sword really how does this "zero" got the sword that lelouch was holding in r2-23
7.lelouch smile on nunnally to let her touch him to see the truth well she is a human lie detector.

really all this was just nothing was total act that only people knew the act plan was lelouch, suzaku, c2, orange boy, & "others" (i don't know who else but really it could be anyone) & those who just realize their plan was nunnally (human lie detector) & kallen (might have understand it).

& yet i'm still feeling that lelouch is still ALIVE.

overall this is just so that sunrise, clamp, & director goro with writer ichiro are hiding real truth from everyone & that they the fans can't handle truth well i say I WANT THE REAL TRUTH.

unless if want to restart/reboot/redo the series or else new season, spinoff, etc to finally get REAL TRUTH.
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May 6, 2009 2:24 PM

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you deserve around of applause for figuring it out

*sigh*...people

there is no way he would be dead no? So then he is alive.

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May 6, 2009 11:41 PM

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he's dead.

leave it
May 7, 2009 3:06 AM

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WOW!!! I have to say this is in my top 5 anime of all time. Great writing, great character design, great voice actors!
May 7, 2009 4:11 AM

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i don't know if anyone still realize yet that the whole r2-25 aka re; aka zero requiem, "act", etc thing just really still bother me a bit.

1.timeskips there was 1 in r2-21 a month later after lelouch stop his evil parents then now he emperor & suzaku is with him really what happen in that month.
2.r2-25 have two timeskips with the 1st was two later when lelouch rules the world & 2nd after the "whacked" of emperor lelouch where the world is normal (besides where the body after 2nd timeskip???)
3.fake suzaku grave besides suzaku cannot die with effect of his live geass power.
4.the "other" zero (suzaku) only people who really know knows the TRUE zero is kallen, suzaku, c2.
5.jump on orange boy shoulder really he is also in the act (by telling "zero" to go).
6.the sword really how does this "zero" got the sword that lelouch was holding in r2-23
7.lelouch smile on nunnally to let her touch him to see the truth well she is a human lie detector.

really all this was just nothing was total act that only people knew the act plan was lelouch, suzaku, c2, orange boy, & "others" (i don't know who else but really it could be anyone) & those who just realize their plan was nunnally (human lie detector) & kallen (might have understand it).

& yet i'm still feeling that lelouch is still ALIVE.

overall this is just so that sunrise, clamp, & director goro with writer ichiro are hiding real truth from everyone & that they the fans can't handle truth well i say I WANT THE REAL TRUTH.

unless if want to restart/reboot/redo the series or else new season, spinoff, etc to finally get REAL TRUTH.


The REAL TRUTH :

It's a cartoon and they made it to make money.
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Aeiou said:
GS_LC7 said:
i don't know if anyone still realize yet that the whole r2-25 aka re; aka zero requiem, "act", etc thing just really still bother me a bit.

1.timeskips there was 1 in r2-21 a month later after lelouch stop his evil parents then now he emperor & suzaku is with him really what happen in that month.
2.r2-25 have two timeskips with the 1st was two later when lelouch rules the world & 2nd after the "whacked" of emperor lelouch where the world is normal (besides where the body after 2nd timeskip???)
3.fake suzaku grave besides suzaku cannot die with effect of his live geass power.
4.the "other" zero (suzaku) only people who really know knows the TRUE zero is kallen, suzaku, c2.
5.jump on orange boy shoulder really he is also in the act (by telling "zero" to go).
6.the sword really how does this "zero" got the sword that lelouch was holding in r2-23
7.lelouch smile on nunnally to let her touch him to see the truth well she is a human lie detector.

really all this was just nothing was total act that only people knew the act plan was lelouch, suzaku, c2, orange boy, & "others" (i don't know who else but really it could be anyone) & those who just realize their plan was nunnally (human lie detector) & kallen (might have understand it).

& yet i'm still feeling that lelouch is still ALIVE.

overall this is just so that sunrise, clamp, & director goro with writer ichiro are hiding real truth from everyone & that they the fans can't handle truth well i say I WANT THE REAL TRUTH.

unless if want to restart/reboot/redo the series or else new season, spinoff, etc to finally get REAL TRUTH.


The REAL TRUTH :

It's a cartoon and they made it to make money.


LIAR never say money involvement.

really i'm just sayin the whole re; was really hiding real truth from everyone.
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May 13, 2009 7:49 PM

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Brilliant ending, to amazing series. Very strong character. Maybe one of the strongest characters ever seen.
May 21, 2009 8:38 PM

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Fuck, I almost cried watching the last few minutes, but I calmed myself with believing that Lelouch gained immortality and he was the guy sitting behind C.C. on that carriage. Still.. the show left deep marks on my poor fluffy little marshmallow soul, and that song was just beautiful.
May 22, 2009 1:24 AM

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haha!

i have proof that lelouch is dead, gonna destroy all your dreams people

:3

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Writer Ichirō Ōkouchi explains that Lelouch's death was the price Lelouch needed to pay to create his better world. In addition, the name "Lelouch vi Britannia" is included in the magazine's final death list.
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lelouch didnt die, when c.c finished talking in the end, she looked up to lelouch.
C.C revived lelouch.
Lelouch promised c.c a smile and would come back for her.
If lelouch died, who is going to bring c.c happiness. use your common senses.
c.c said that geass would bring absolute solitude was not that accurate because lelouch was able to stay with c.c and not alone.
And sorry for bad grammer cuz i cant quite explain in words.
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if u guys dont believe me then google code geass episode 25 and i guarantee that you would find an answer that satisfy your needs.
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haha!

i have proof that lelouch is dead, gonna destroy all your dreams people

:3

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Writer Ichirō Ōkouchi explains that Lelouch's death was the price Lelouch needed to pay to create his better world. In addition, the name "Lelouch vi Britannia" is included in the magazine's final death list.


that just a F'N COVER UP!!!

really that have name in the "name" form really we still don't know if lulu is alive???

where goro to answer it & damn it all why can't just tell THE REAL TRUTH SO THE SERIES IS SAVED.
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because if he's dead, the ending is much better, though less optimistic, than if he 'escaped' death.

it really just depends on what you prefer, a better ending or a happy one
May 26, 2009 7:38 AM

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IMHO : His death was his reward.

If he would have stayed alive his sins would hunt him forever. The only way he survived to the end is because of his "dream".
May 26, 2009 8:52 AM

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wow. i'm sad it's over. i almost cried. but i am with those in the circle that think he died at the end. it made total sense. i just wish i could have seen a good moment with him and CC but i guess it was good enough. i love that kallen had her moment with lelouch. all in all, it was a great series. i wonder what i'll watch next to fill the void D=

8/10
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Before I get to the meat of what I'd like to say, allow me to say I thought the ending episode was as perfect as I could hope for (5 out ot 5)! :)

I've read the arguments over whether or not Lelouche is dead in a phlethora of places on the net and here's my take on this whole thing.

First off, after reading the interviews, the reviews and seeing the show it's my opinion that Okouchi and Taniguchi intended for CG to be a work of art and like any other artwork the interpretation of the meaning of the piece is up to the person viewing it.

I used to think that Lelouche was 100% dead when I watched this show the first time online now I'm of a different opinion.

I think what Okouchi implyied in the Continue #42 interview and what Taniguchi alluded too in the Newtype article is that Lelouche Li Britainnia is dead (in the Same way that Suzaku is technically dead, but is now Zero) and that FOR THEM the show is over.

However, after seeing the ending again (for a second time) I've come to think that we viewers are given the choice to determine for ourselves what we wish to make of the end scene with CC and the tantalizing artistic-simulacrum (not in the literal sense) of the cart driver who may be interpreted as being L2/R2; or we can choose not to see it that way.

That said I'd like to say that I've already seen the Japanese version (subbed) twice, and I'm now currently watching the [adult swim] english dub which is at episode 22 currently.
A few points I've picked up this third time that Imissed before but have a second opinion of now that I'm watching CG in English.

1) We never see VV's Code sigil.
2) CC's Code sigil only shows when her Code is activated.
3) Charles takes VV's Code very quickly in eps. 14/15 but we don't see the process (most likely he touched him and nothing more, like Charles tried to do to CC to take her Code).
4) We see Lelouche shoot Charles in episode 14 and bleed profusely after Lelouche Geasses him, thus "killing" Charles an perhaps activiting the Code within hiim.
5) In episode 21 Lelouche gains full Geass thus giving him the ability to steal/receive a Code from a dying person with a Code.
6) Charles has a Code, he chokes Lelouche and thus Lelouche MAY have taken his Code, but the writers/director have left this vague and unresolved (I think on purpose).
7) Nannunally has her "vision" into Lelouche's soul/mind in a very similar manner to what Lelouche sees in ep 1 of R1 when he touches CC. Is this a Code in Lelouche or just Nannually becoming a CG version of Professor Xavier? I believe it's our choice.
8) We see Lelouche smile after Suzaku guts him. Why? Again a very vague artistic representation.
9) CC cries in the church for Lelouche. Again Why? Is it because he's dead or because like her he'll live forever? I used to think it was because she knew he was going to die, but since I've seen the English version (up to episdoe 22) I've come to change my opinion and I now think that she's shedding that tear because she doesn't want Lelouche to suffer the hell of living forever like her, even if it's with her, especially knowing that he will never be able to see Nannually again.
10) The whole end sequence with CC talking to herself/Lelouche. I used to think she was only looking up at the sky until I watched the sub again and saw her head move towards the front of the cart as if to speak to the person in front, but again this is very vague and can be interpreted in a number of ways. Plus the whole crane thing threw me, why would CC keep it? Maybe as a memento of Lelouche? Or maybe it was Lelouche that's keeping it? It's hard for me to say.

So I'm now in the "I'm not so sure he's 100% dead" line of thinking.
The persona known as Lelouche Li Britainnia is dead for sure, but I'm now warming up to the idea that Sunrise left this open for him to have a Code and be R2/L2 as some have speculated.
Since the ending was meant to be open for interpretation (as Director Taniguchi said in Newtype Japan's interview) I think it's safe to say that the possibility of L2/R2 being alive with C2 is wide open.

Besides, Sunrise/BanDai has never been a company to pass up milking a cash cow, and Geass was certainly that. ;)

Lastly I'd like to say THANK YOU to Mr. Okouchi and Mr. Taniguchi (even if they never see this) for creating this wonderfully artistic anime. I'm sure people will continue to discuss it (and argue about it) for many years to come. :)
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thornsap said:
haha!

i have proof that lelouch is dead, gonna destroy all your dreams people

:3

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Writer Ichirō Ōkouchi explains that Lelouch's death was the price Lelouch needed to pay to create his better world. In addition, the name "Lelouch vi Britannia" is included in the magazine's final death list.

If you were the writer, would you also say Lelouch died? I don't think so. The writer ended in this way so there would be some discussion and so you would keep thinking about the anime. And it really worked. To just say he's dead is to simple to end this.


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ah, there's no use talking about it is there?

we believe what we believe.

imo Lelouch is a tragic hero so therefore he has to die and it makes such an awesome ending if he does die.

if he doesnt, then it's more optimistic but that somehow diminishes his sacrifice, and Suzaku's too (since he's an idiot for accepting the role of zero if lelouch is alive).
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There's alot of argument over this in the past, but in my personal opinion, and based on most of the facts and hinting, Lelouch did die. It'll just make more sense so many were celebrating over his dead body while Nunally wept. That and also information from the staff confirming his death, C.C's reactions to the final unleashing of the Zero Requiem, etc.

But its only fair if you believe what you want to believe. Choose for yourself what you think and want.
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The ending actually wasn't that bad. Jeremy picking oranges, nice.

But thinking that shifting all the hatred on him and killing himself is a good way to bring peace is kind of childish, in my opinion.
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Bladecatcher said:
The ending actually wasn't that bad. Jeremy picking oranges, nice.

But thinking that shifting all the hatred on him and killing himself is a good way to bring peace is kind of childish, in my opinion.


rewatch the entire two series

believe me, you will see a LOT of references to this ending.

Zero Requim seems like a master stroke that he had planned from the begining
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best ending ever. I had to re-watch it quite a few times. It's really great.
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The whole point of "why it is not made perfectly clear if he is dead or not ", i belive, is that this way we can feel his death as given the first time we watch the episode. Later though all clues lead to the fact that he is alive.

More than that, his death is a given fact EVEN if the code he took from C.C. had been activated to revive him. Same as Charles, who DID die but not stay dead for long. From this point of view this

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Writer Ichirō Ōkouchi explains that Lelouch's death was the price Lelouch needed to pay to create his better world. In addition, the name "Lelouch vi Britannia" is included in the magazine's final death list.


still makes perfect sense. He dies, then lives again.

Besides, sacrificing himself for others is not what i believe Lelouch could do. He is not the type who would just let his life go, no matter how beautiful and meaningful this death would be.

Even more, the whole Zero thing. Lelouch himself, and the image of Zero, were rarely mixed in his mind. Lelouch did care for Euphy's death while Zero used it. Lelouch felt sad over Shirley's death while Zero could, or had, to keep Rolo by his side as essential game piece. This given, by the end of Geass Lelouch used his own image as a mask (Evil emperor, that is), and then killed it off, and by doing so gave Zero the new meaning.

I also believe that he staged his death so to make sure that Nunaly gets a chance to know the truth upon touching him.

AND another major point is that Lelouch was so often rational but did let his feelings take control from time to time. This given, he by the end of the series assumed guidance of sorts for the world. How irresponsible and unreasonable it would be for him to, afterwards, just die. No, his own death in his eyes could not be an atonement (i don’t mean the staged, public death- it surely served its purpose). With Code's power, he can keep on watching over the world and take responsibility for it.

Anyway, come on, does Lelouch seems to you all as a person who would let the chance to become immortal; gain more power; fulfill the promise (to cc); take responsibility; go? No way :)
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Epic Fucking Ending to and Epic Fucking Show!!! I T__T at the end, LuLu is a genius. I will watch and love this show for the rest of my life!! I'm speechless...Urahara Out!!
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That was fucking retarded. Wow, retarded.
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cantius said:
That was fucking retarded. Wow, retarded.
That's funny since you have a Lelouch avy.
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so lelouch ultimately focuses all anger on himself and sacrifices himself for world peace, kind of sad; but nunally is now empress it seems with suzaku as zero to help, ohgi married with a kid, kallen now a regular student, and orange plus that knight are actually picking oranges, also that guy who kept saying he was zero's best buddy is now operating his own store, alls well that ends well, well except that lelouch dies
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I think this was the worst ending ever to a great series! I have loved everything about this show until Lelouch decides he wants to give up his life for a better world! come on! he could have stayed zero and fought with Suzaku to make a better world and them Lelouch and Suzaku and Nunnally could finally all be happy!!!!

WHY DID LELOUCH HAVE TO DIE!!!!! DAMMIT!!!
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Bladecatcher said:
cantius said:
That was fucking retarded. Wow, retarded.
That's funny since you have a Lelouch avy.


Um, okay? I was talking about the ending. It has absolutely got nothing to do with a person having a lelouch avatar on a forum.

That's like telling someone with an avatar of Light Yagami(bashing on the ending) on a forum
"that's funny since you have a light avy."
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i think there is another episode after that. i think . idk it was on adult swim schedule. but it made me so sad! i was like NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!stupid ppl!!
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I think this was the worst ending ever to a great series! I have loved everything about this show until Lelouch decides he wants to give up his life for a better world! come on! he could have stayed zero and fought with Suzaku to make a better world and them Lelouch and Suzaku and Nunnally could finally all be happy!!!!

WHY DID LELOUCH HAVE TO DIE!!!!! DAMMIT!!!


LOL, trust me, this is one of the happier endings I've seen in anime. I wonder what your reaction would be if you watched Evangelion and Berserk...
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LOL, trust me, this is one of the happier endings I've seen in anime. I wonder what your reaction would be if you watched Evangelion and Berserk...


That is very true. There are hardly any serious animation series that have happy endings....

Hero would not be a hero without loosing/sacrificing something important to him/her.
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........I'm speechless.

Epic ending is epic.
<i>When all else is lost, the future still remains</i>
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Love the ending it was just freaking awesome.
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