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Jul 13, 2013 5:20 AM
#501
Yukon said: VoidNoodle said: Yukon said: I've noticed people have overlooked the smashed crystal ball? It would be too obvious if Hagakure did it because they found his crystal ball but it must have some significance. The only thing that annoyed me about them all suspecting Naegi is that it would be too obvious if he did it they knew he was willing to stand by because on the last episode they were all stood behind Naegi being kind to Maizono. I've explained the smashed crystall ball a few pages back. It's not that you guys overlooked it, it's that the anime didn't give much detail on it, wherein in fact it is a pretty crucial evidence to the murder. I'll explain it again here. Again, only for the theory-crafters. The broken glass ball is found on the garbage disposal room, below the on/off switch of the incinerator. Near it, a piece of cloth with blood is found below the opening hatch of the incinerator. The garbage disposal room(specifically, the incinerator area)is blocked by a huge cage thing that can only be opened through key. The group decided that Yamada will be the first to have the key. Also, the distance between the incinerator to the cage thing is quite far. Again, don't click on it if you're not one of the people who like to theorize. Sorry I didn't see that, however I don't totally understand what you're getting at by that, that was another thing the clothing, could it be that Yamada got blood on his shirt and wanted to burn it? Did Yamada need the crystal ball from Hagakure to press the on/off button because it was hard to open? Again, While Yamada has the key to disable the gate thing, it still doesn't explain why there was a glass ball. If, let's assume Yamada killed her, what was the point of the glass ball in the first place? Remember, it was found DIRECTLY below the on/off switch. Also, while theory-crafting, put everything on spoilers. Even replies to the theories should be placed on spoilers. |
Jul 13, 2013 5:25 AM
#502
VoidNoodle said: Also, while theory-crafting, put everything on spoilers. Even replies to the theories should be placed on spoilers. The first trial is a cake walk anyway because of the stupid conclusive evidence. The next cases will be much more difficult and more open for interpretation BTW is that a Komomo-chan I see? :) |
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Jul 13, 2013 5:27 AM
#503
VoidNoodle said: Yukon said: VoidNoodle said: Yukon said: I've noticed people have overlooked the smashed crystal ball? It would be too obvious if Hagakure did it because they found his crystal ball but it must have some significance. The only thing that annoyed me about them all suspecting Naegi is that it would be too obvious if he did it they knew he was willing to stand by because on the last episode they were all stood behind Naegi being kind to Maizono. I've explained the smashed crystall ball a few pages back. It's not that you guys overlooked it, it's that the anime didn't give much detail on it, wherein in fact it is a pretty crucial evidence to the murder. I'll explain it again here. Again, only for the theory-crafters. The broken glass ball is found on the garbage disposal room, below the on/off switch of the incinerator. Near it, a piece of cloth with blood is found below the opening hatch of the incinerator. The garbage disposal room(specifically, the incinerator area)is blocked by a huge cage thing that can only be opened through key. The group decided that Yamada will be the first to have the key. Also, the distance between the incinerator to the cage thing is quite far. Again, don't click on it if you're not one of the people who like to theorize. Sorry I didn't see that, however I don't totally understand what you're getting at by that, that was another thing the clothing, could it be that Yamada got blood on his shirt and wanted to burn it? Did Yamada need the crystal ball from Hagakure to press the on/off button because it was hard to open? Again, While Yamada has the key to disable the gate thing, it still doesn't explain why there was a glass ball. If, let's assume Yamada killed her, what was the point of the glass ball in the first place? Remember, it was found DIRECTLY below the on/off switch. Also, while theory-crafting, put everything on spoilers. Even replies to the theories should be placed on spoilers. I get what you mean now :D waiting every week for all the trials is going to kill me but at least I have a week to think about everything. |
Jul 13, 2013 5:29 AM
#504
| can anyone spoil me is there going to be any romance between kirigiri and naegi towards the end? thanks |
Jul 13, 2013 5:33 AM
#505
Raiden_ said: VoidNoodle said: Also, while theory-crafting, put everything on spoilers. Even replies to the theories should be placed on spoilers. The first trial is a cake walk anyway because of the stupid conclusive evidence. The next cases will be much more difficult and more open for interpretation BTW is that a Komomo-chan I see? :) Yup. First case's basically baby's first. The next cases are...well, let's just say difficult. :) Also, yes. Mokomoko-chan. :3 |
Jul 13, 2013 5:35 AM
#506
na35899 said: can anyone spoil me is there going to be any romance between kirigiri and naegi towards the end? thanks Kinda subtle. Not really the main focus, but the attraction is somewhat there. I'm not so sure on Naegi's part, but for Kirigiri...well, just wait for her dere side. :) |
Jul 13, 2013 5:39 AM
#507
| Why did they have to get rid of two cute girls right from the start |
Jul 13, 2013 5:42 AM
#508
Raiden_ said: VoidNoodle said: Also, while theory-crafting, put everything on spoilers. Even replies to the theories should be placed on spoilers. The first trial is a cake walk anyway because of the stupid conclusive evidence. The next cases will be much more difficult and more open for interpretation Yeah, but they should at least explain it, even in a meta example. Even if people have figured out the culprit from certain clues, who's to say it's not fabricated? For all we know, the culprit could have placed it there, making it a red herring. It's also a good thing to keep connecting the dots with the evidence and testimony. Having a populous or shallow opinion and theory is exactly what Monokuma wants, getting everybody killed for not seeking the "truth." Have fun, everyone! |
Jul 13, 2013 5:43 AM
#509
MrOCD said: Raiden_ said: VoidNoodle said: Also, while theory-crafting, put everything on spoilers. Even replies to the theories should be placed on spoilers. The first trial is a cake walk anyway because of the stupid conclusive evidence. The next cases will be much more difficult and more open for interpretation Yeah, but they should at least explain it, even in a meta example. Even if people have figured out the culprit from certain clues, who's to say it's not fabricated? For all we know, the culprit could have placed it there, making it a red herring. It's also a good thing to keep connecting the dots with the evidence and testimony. Having a populous or shallow opinion and theory is exactly what Monokuma wants, getting everybody killed for not seeking the "truth." Have fun, everyone! That's why I'll elaborate on any evidence the anime might have skipped/left. :) |
Jul 13, 2013 5:44 AM
#510
| I'm liking it so far. I can't remember any names so I'll refer to their given titles. The first two deaths were good surprises, and the pink blood is fine since it makes DR stand out. In first episode I was annoyed by the Idol because she was a "love interest", though I could see that she was desperate enough to kill someone. The Model did a stupid move and paid the price, but still, it's dumb to assault Monokuma since he's from what I understand just some mechanic tool the mastermind is controlling. It's interesting that there's at least three characters that keep it cool while everyone else are freaking out. I get that they are supposed to be the levelheaded guys but it just annoys me that they didn't even blink when a fellow student is pierced to death in front of them. There's a few characters I like already and it will be sad to see them die eventually, so the plot is going at a fine pace. I just hope for more insight in how their "Super Duper" titles will play a role in all of this. |
Jul 13, 2013 5:47 AM
#511
MrOCD said: Raiden_ said: VoidNoodle said: Also, while theory-crafting, put everything on spoilers. Even replies to the theories should be placed on spoilers. The first trial is a cake walk anyway because of the stupid conclusive evidence. The next cases will be much more difficult and more open for interpretation Yeah, but they should at least explain it, even in a meta example. Even if people have figured out the culprit from certain clues, who's to say it's not fabricated? For all we know, the culprit could have placed it there, making it a red herring. It's also a good thing to keep connecting the dots with the evidence and testimony. Having a populous or shallow opinion and theory is exactly what Monokuma wants, getting everybody killed for not seeking the "truth." Have fun, everyone! True dat i suppose Still gotta figure out what happened, why it happened, how it happened |
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Jul 13, 2013 5:47 AM
#512
ponygon123 said: 'But why would the dead girl encrypt the message or write the stuff in english upside down. It just does't make any sense at all.... She didn’t encript it. It’s upside down because of the way she wrote it, she was sitting down with her back against the wall - when you look at the wall behind you from such a position (without turning your head), it will be upside down. That’s why she wrote it upside down, which made it look like numbers instead. As for the "English", she probably thought it would be easier to write and read (given her condition) than trying to scribble レオン, or however did they spell his name in the original. |
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Jul 13, 2013 6:02 AM
#513
Raiden_ said: MrOCD said: Raiden_ said: VoidNoodle said: Also, while theory-crafting, put everything on spoilers. Even replies to the theories should be placed on spoilers. The first trial is a cake walk anyway because of the stupid conclusive evidence. The next cases will be much more difficult and more open for interpretation Yeah, but they should at least explain it, even in a meta example. Even if people have figured out the culprit from certain clues, who's to say it's not fabricated? For all we know, the culprit could have placed it there, making it a red herring. It's also a good thing to keep connecting the dots with the evidence and testimony. Having a populous or shallow opinion and theory is exactly what Monokuma wants, getting everybody killed for not seeking the "truth." Have fun, everyone! True dat i suppose Still gotta figure out what happened, why it happened, how it happened Try playing the game. The "Climax" part of the Class Trial in the game is basically you recreating the events of the murder from start to finish in manga form. :) |
Jul 13, 2013 6:05 AM
#514
VoidNoodle said: na35899 said: can anyone spoil me is there going to be any romance between kirigiri and naegi towards the end? thanks Kinda subtle. Not really the main focus, but the attraction is somewhat there. I'm not so sure on Naegi's part, but for Kirigiri...well, just wait for her dere side. :) thank you |
Jul 13, 2013 6:25 AM
#515
VoidNoodle said: Try playing the game. The "Climax" part of the Class Trial in the game is basically you recreating the events of the murder from start to finish in manga form. :) I already beat the game. I'm just saying even though the people who haven't played the game already figured out who did it, it's entertaining for them to figure out how the murder played out using evidence provided. |
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Jul 13, 2013 6:28 AM
#516
Raiden_ said: VoidNoodle said: Try playing the game. The "Climax" part of the Class Trial in the game is basically you recreating the events of the murder from start to finish in manga form. :) I already beat the game. I'm just saying even though the people who haven't played the game already figured out who did it, it's entertaining for them to figure out how the murder played out using evidence provided. I see, I see. Well, some parts were omitted, so it's pretty impossibly to reconstruct the event that transpired. An example: Like that tissue roller thing in Naegi's room. Skipped. -_- |
Jul 13, 2013 6:29 AM
#517
| Irrelevant observation - I'm just amused about the fact that they have been imprisoned for 4 days now and poor Naegi-kun never got to take that shower or visit the toilet at all ^^ |
Jul 13, 2013 6:35 AM
#518
mikado34 said: Irrelevant observation - I'm just amused about the fact that they have been imprisoned for 4 days now and poor Naegi-kun never got to take that shower or visit the toilet at all ^^ Actually, there is a blink-and-you'll-miss-it moment in episode one. Around 16:45 in the anime where they show you the mini map on the electronical student gizmomajigwhatever, or 'ElectroiD' as the game's fan translation calls it, shows there are toilets near the dorms. You got that right about the showers, though. Seriously, it took him 4 days to attempt to open the door in his room? In the game it was done on the first day. |
Jul 13, 2013 6:49 AM
#519
| maybe Maizono was killed by yourself?? well, I think that she did it. next ep will be interesting ^^ |
Jul 13, 2013 7:09 AM
#520
| Lets just go and kill off the 2 idols in 1 episode.. Junko was awesome too.. |
Jul 13, 2013 7:17 AM
#521
| this show is so great ahhh. I am anticipating next week's episode so hard. LET'S SEE HOW THIS ALL UNFOLDS. |
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Jul 13, 2013 7:31 AM
#522
| Just in case, the blood in pink in order to go with the surreal atmosphere of the anime/game. And the cartoon style. Monokuma is another great example for this. People should stop with their "it's an horror story" when it is NOT, it's a mystery, it's the same thing that made the umineko fandom unBEARable. |
Jul 13, 2013 7:46 AM
#523
Jul 13, 2013 7:52 AM
#524
| Alright, based on only the information we were given in the anime, here is my super duper awesome theory on who the killer is--! The killer is most likely Togami! Allow me to explain. Exhibit A: Glass Sphere ![]() At first glance, the broken crystal ball in the garbage disposal room is awful suspicious, and Hagakure was the first person who came to mind since the ball belongs to him, as we saw in Episode 1. However, the more I thought about it, the more strange it seemed--if this is the garbage disposal room and the culprit was trying to get rid of the evidence, if it was Hagakure, he wouldn't have left something as incriminating as the crystal ball there if he could toss it away (this is the garbage disposal room, after all). This leads me to believe that Hagakure wouldn't have left the crystal ball out in the open, and it may instead be a red herring added by the culprit to deflect suspicion away from them. This then makes me wonder--who could have committed the crime? In order to possibly narrow down suspects, I'm first going to take a look at the site of the crime. Exhibit B: Naegi's Bathroom Door ![]() It's quite apparent that someone did something to the door there. This means it's someone who didn't know about the door's "trick"--so it couldn't have been Naegi or Maizono who did that to the door. Someone earlier in the thread mentioned that it could have been opened using one of the tools in the toolbox that are found in the drawers. Exhibit C: Toolbox ![]() As you can see, there is a screwdriver with multiple heads in the box. Based on the above, the one who dislodged the bathroom doorknob didn't need to be particularly strong to break the door down; almost anyone could have done that to the door given that Monokuma left everyone a tool set as a "gift" based on Monokuma's poster note that Naegi reads. However, Naegi and Maizono both know the door is unlocked, and know the trick to opening the door. This leads me to believe that there was someone in that room besides Maizono or Naegi who broke the doorknob (so although Maizono's suicide is a possibility, it seems unlikely as there is a third member involved). Recall that Naegi's room was unlocked when he ran back to his room looking for Maizono--someone may have undone the lock using their tool set as well. Entry to the room does not seem to rule any additional people out. So next--the remnant of a piece of clothing in the garbage disposal room. Exhibit D: Burnt Dress Shirt ![]() It's burnt on the edges, which indicates to me someone tried to get rid of the original article of clothing. It's a cuff of a dress shirt; it doesn't belong to Maizono as her sleeves were still intact on her corpse (and her sleeves are blue). The people who wear white cuffs similar to those are: Hagakure, Yamada, Ishimaru, Fujisaki, Kuwata, and Togami. These people, based on the burnt dress shirt, are highly suspicious. Exhibit E: Cuff Comparison ![]() From top left, in reading order, these are Hagakure, Fujisaki, Yamada, Kuwata, Togami, and Ishimaru's cuffs. Hagakure's cuffs are rolled up, so I find him not likely to be suspicious (along with the fact of the glass sphere being left in the garbage room when he could easily have disposed of it if it were him). This leaves the other five. Something I found odd is that the blood on the burnt cuff is just on the edge, while you could see from the corpse that there was ample strawberry milkshake everywhere. How come...? --One way this might happen is for the white cuff to have been protected by an overcoat of some sort. The overcoat will block the majority of the blood splatter--except at the edge of the cuff, where we see the blood. Fujisaki, Yamada, and Togami's outfits all match this, while Kuwata and Ishimaru do not fit. Based on this, my suspicions are now on Fujisaki, Yamada, and Togami. The overcoat and dress shirt would be discarded, but a piece of the dress shirt was not completely incinerated. Regarding the dying message, others in this topic have pointed out that it spells out a name. However, this could easily be a red herring--the killer could easily have left the message there to redirect suspicion away from him/herself. Additionally, if the true murderer saw the name, he or she could easily change or erase it. On the room sign switch, as others in this topic have stated as well--it is entirely possible that Monokuma switched the signs after the room switch was made in order to help instigate the murder. How do we narrow down the suspects from there? The evidence is scant at this point, though we still can focus on the actions of each of the suspects prior to and during the investigation. Based on the state of the room (the slashes throughout the room and on the door in Exhibit B), it seems a relatively drastic struggle occurred in the room. This makes me feel that Fujisaki is unlikely. She seems like she isn't strong enough to weild a weapon and cause destruction to a room on that level. I cannot completely rule her out, though--maybe she's stronger than she looks. She isn't high on the suspect list, though--she is less suspicious than the others, as you will see. Yamada actually brought Naegi to the garbage disposal room during the investigation, which may possibly be seen as him trying to direct Naegi to the crystal ball red herring. However, he didn't seem to react at all when the burnt dress shirt was on the floor. He may just be a good actor; I'm unsure. Finally, Togami is the last one to arrive at their meeting on the morning the murder is discovered. He also goes out of the way to point out to the rest of the class that, "I came straight here from my room." It is possible that his tardiness is the result of some other unmentioned actions, or a late night. He seemed very nonchalant about Maizono's death, and also was the first to ask, "Let's say the culprit is among us. He'd be able to graduate from here, yes?". He seemed awful eager for the details on graduation. He also gave Naegi a hard time, asking him to "show proof" if he claims he is innocent, throwing suspicion on Naegi. In truth, I can't really narrow it down beyond Fujisaki, Yamada, and Togami based on current evidence (I'm not sure if the game had more that I was missing), but currently, my suspicions are on Togami. Let me know what you think! But for the people who played the game--don't spoil me. =P |
Jul 13, 2013 8:02 AM
#525
NorseFTX said: Alright, based on only the information we were given in the anime, here is my super duper awesome theory on who the killer is--! The killer is most likely Togami! Allow me to explain. Exhibit A: Glass Sphere ![]() At first glance, the broken crystal ball in the garbage disposal room is awful suspicious, and Hagakure was the first person who came to mind since the ball belongs to him, as we saw in Episode 1. However, the more I thought about it, the more strange it seemed--if this is the garbage disposal room and the culprit was trying to get rid of the evidence, if it was Hagakure, he wouldn't have left something as incriminating as the crystal ball there if he could toss it away (this is the garbage disposal room, after all). This leads me to believe that Hagakure wouldn't have left the crystal ball out in the open, and it may instead be a red herring added by the culprit to deflect suspicion away from them. This then makes me wonder--who could have committed the crime? In order to possibly narrow down suspects, I'm first going to take a look at the site of the crime. Exhibit B: Naegi's Bathroom Door ![]() It's quite apparent that someone did something to the door there. This means it's someone who didn't know about the door's "trick"--so it couldn't have been Naegi or Maizono who did that to the door. Someone earlier in the thread mentioned that it could have been opened using one of the tools in the toolbox that are found in the drawers. Exhibit C: Toolbox ![]() As you can see, there is a screwdriver with multiple heads in the box. Based on the above, the one who dislodged the bathroom doorknob didn't need to be particularly strong to break the door down; almost anyone could have done that to the door given that Monokuma left everyone a tool set as a "gift" based on Monokuma's poster note that Naegi reads. However, Naegi and Maizono both know the door is unlocked, and know the trick to opening the door. This leads me to believe that there was someone in that room besides Maizono or Naegi who broke the doorknob (so although Maizono's suicide is a possibility, it seems unlikely as there is a third member involved). Recall that Naegi's room was unlocked when he ran back to his room looking for Maizono--someone may have undone the lock using their tool set as well. Entry to the room does not seem to rule any additional people out. So next--the remnant of a piece of clothing in the garbage disposal room. Exhibit D: Burnt Dress Shirt ![]() It's burnt on the edges, which indicates to me someone tried to get rid of the original article of clothing. It's a cuff of a dress shirt; it doesn't belong to Maizono as her sleeves were still intact on her corpse (and her sleeves are blue). The people who wear white cuffs similar to those are: Hagakure, Yamada, Ishimaru, Fujisaki, Kuwata, and Togami. These people, based on the burnt dress shirt, are highly suspicious. Exhibit E: Cuff Comparison ![]() From top left, in reading order, these are Hagakure, Fujisaki, Yamada, Kuwata, Togami, and Ishimaru's cuffs. Hagakure's cuffs are rolled up, so I find him not likely to be suspicious (along with the fact of the glass sphere being left in the garbage room when he could easily have disposed of it if it were him). This leaves the other five. Something I found odd is that the blood on the burnt cuff is just on the edge, while you could see from the corpse that there was ample strawberry milkshake everywhere. How come...? --One way this might happen is for the white cuff to have been protected by an overcoat of some sort. The overcoat will block the majority of the blood splatter--except at the edge of the cuff, where we see the blood. Fujisaki, Yamada, and Togami's outfits all match this, while Kuwata and Ishimaru do not fit. Based on this, my suspicions are now on Fujisaki, Yamada, and Togami. The overcoat and dress shirt would be discarded, but a piece of the dress shirt was not completely incinerated. Regarding the dying message, others in this topic have pointed out that it spells out a name. However, this could easily be a red herring--the killer could easily have left the message there to redirect suspicion away from him/herself. Additionally, if the true murderer saw the name, he or she could easily change or erase it. On the room sign switch, as others in this topic have stated as well--it is entirely possible that Monokuma switched the signs after the room switch was made in order to help instigate the murder. How do we narrow down the suspects from there? The evidence is scant at this point, though we still can focus on the actions of each of the suspects prior to and during the investigation. Based on the state of the room (the slashes throughout the room and on the door in Exhibit B), it seems a relatively drastic struggle occurred in the room. This makes me feel that Fujisaki is unlikely. She seems like she isn't strong enough to weild a weapon and cause destruction to a room on that level. I cannot completely rule her out, though--maybe she's stronger than she looks. She isn't high on the suspect list, though--she is less suspicious than the others, as you will see. Yamada actually brought Naegi to the garbage disposal room during the investigation, which may possibly be seen as him trying to direct Naegi to the crystal ball red herring. However, he didn't seem to react at all when the burnt dress shirt was on the floor. He may just be a good actor; I'm unsure. Finally, Togami is the last one to arrive at their meeting on the morning the murder is discovered. He also goes out of the way to point out to the rest of the class that, "I came straight here from my room." It is possible that his tardiness is the result of some other unmentioned actions, or a late night. He seemed very nonchalant about Maizono's death, and also was the first to ask, "Let's say the culprit is among us. He'd be able to graduate from here, yes?". He seemed awful eager for the details on graduation. He also gave Naegi a hard time, asking him to "show proof" if he claims he is innocent, throwing suspicion on Naegi. In truth, I can't really narrow it down beyond Fujisaki, Yamada, and Togami based on current evidence (I'm not sure if the game had more that I was missing), but currently, my suspicions are on Togami. Let me know what you think! But for the people who played the game--don't spoil me. =P Garbage disposal room is locked(you can enter the room, but the incinerator and everything is blocked by a gate/fence/cage thing. Actually, I think it's more of the wall of a cage. Like, huge pipes with some gaps in between them. It looks like that. Also, huge. Can only be disabled via key, which Yamada has been assigned to hold first. Glass ball is found broken directly below the on/off switch of the incinerator. Distance between incinerator/on off switch and gate/fence/cage thing is considerably far. Also, I'd like to elaborate on the toolbox thing. Only the GUYS have the toolbox, I think the girls got a sewing kit or something like that. And while the 11037 thing could've been a red herring, you still can't exclude the possibility that it was Maizono's dying message. Also, about Togami's nonchalant-ness. That's his personality. He stands on the highest peak of society, so he thinks everyone is below him. He's pretty much Resident Heartless. |
Jul 13, 2013 8:12 AM
#526
Jul 13, 2013 8:23 AM
#527
na35899 said: can anyone spoil me is there going to be any romance between kirigiri and naegi towards the end? thanks Yah there is, its not full blown romance as theres way too much shit going down for that and its not really that obvious until halfway through but its there. Kirigiri is a bit of a ice queen |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Jul 13, 2013 8:25 AM
#528
VoidNoodle said: You really shouldnt shoot down theories like that, those other evidence will likley be revealed by other characters next week, your taking the fun out of it by telling people the info they dont have yet and spoiling the fun for them. Just let them go in blind, more fun for everyoneNorseFTX said: Alright, based on only the information we were given in the anime, here is my super duper awesome theory on who the killer is--! The killer is most likely Togami! Allow me to explain. Exhibit A: Glass Sphere ![]() At first glance, the broken crystal ball in the garbage disposal room is awful suspicious, and Hagakure was the first person who came to mind since the ball belongs to him, as we saw in Episode 1. However, the more I thought about it, the more strange it seemed--if this is the garbage disposal room and the culprit was trying to get rid of the evidence, if it was Hagakure, he wouldn't have left something as incriminating as the crystal ball there if he could toss it away (this is the garbage disposal room, after all). This leads me to believe that Hagakure wouldn't have left the crystal ball out in the open, and it may instead be a red herring added by the culprit to deflect suspicion away from them. This then makes me wonder--who could have committed the crime? In order to possibly narrow down suspects, I'm first going to take a look at the site of the crime. Exhibit B: Naegi's Bathroom Door ![]() It's quite apparent that someone did something to the door there. This means it's someone who didn't know about the door's "trick"--so it couldn't have been Naegi or Maizono who did that to the door. Someone earlier in the thread mentioned that it could have been opened using one of the tools in the toolbox that are found in the drawers. Exhibit C: Toolbox ![]() As you can see, there is a screwdriver with multiple heads in the box. Based on the above, the one who dislodged the bathroom doorknob didn't need to be particularly strong to break the door down; almost anyone could have done that to the door given that Monokuma left everyone a tool set as a "gift" based on Monokuma's poster note that Naegi reads. However, Naegi and Maizono both know the door is unlocked, and know the trick to opening the door. This leads me to believe that there was someone in that room besides Maizono or Naegi who broke the doorknob (so although Maizono's suicide is a possibility, it seems unlikely as there is a third member involved). Recall that Naegi's room was unlocked when he ran back to his room looking for Maizono--someone may have undone the lock using their tool set as well. Entry to the room does not seem to rule any additional people out. So next--the remnant of a piece of clothing in the garbage disposal room. Exhibit D: Burnt Dress Shirt ![]() It's burnt on the edges, which indicates to me someone tried to get rid of the original article of clothing. It's a cuff of a dress shirt; it doesn't belong to Maizono as her sleeves were still intact on her corpse (and her sleeves are blue). The people who wear white cuffs similar to those are: Hagakure, Yamada, Ishimaru, Fujisaki, Kuwata, and Togami. These people, based on the burnt dress shirt, are highly suspicious. Exhibit E: Cuff Comparison ![]() From top left, in reading order, these are Hagakure, Fujisaki, Yamada, Kuwata, Togami, and Ishimaru's cuffs. Hagakure's cuffs are rolled up, so I find him not likely to be suspicious (along with the fact of the glass sphere being left in the garbage room when he could easily have disposed of it if it were him). This leaves the other five. Something I found odd is that the blood on the burnt cuff is just on the edge, while you could see from the corpse that there was ample strawberry milkshake everywhere. How come...? --One way this might happen is for the white cuff to have been protected by an overcoat of some sort. The overcoat will block the majority of the blood splatter--except at the edge of the cuff, where we see the blood. Fujisaki, Yamada, and Togami's outfits all match this, while Kuwata and Ishimaru do not fit. Based on this, my suspicions are now on Fujisaki, Yamada, and Togami. The overcoat and dress shirt would be discarded, but a piece of the dress shirt was not completely incinerated. Regarding the dying message, others in this topic have pointed out that it spells out a name. However, this could easily be a red herring--the killer could easily have left the message there to redirect suspicion away from him/herself. Additionally, if the true murderer saw the name, he or she could easily change or erase it. On the room sign switch, as others in this topic have stated as well--it is entirely possible that Monokuma switched the signs after the room switch was made in order to help instigate the murder. How do we narrow down the suspects from there? The evidence is scant at this point, though we still can focus on the actions of each of the suspects prior to and during the investigation. Based on the state of the room (the slashes throughout the room and on the door in Exhibit B), it seems a relatively drastic struggle occurred in the room. This makes me feel that Fujisaki is unlikely. She seems like she isn't strong enough to weild a weapon and cause destruction to a room on that level. I cannot completely rule her out, though--maybe she's stronger than she looks. She isn't high on the suspect list, though--she is less suspicious than the others, as you will see. Yamada actually brought Naegi to the garbage disposal room during the investigation, which may possibly be seen as him trying to direct Naegi to the crystal ball red herring. However, he didn't seem to react at all when the burnt dress shirt was on the floor. He may just be a good actor; I'm unsure. Finally, Togami is the last one to arrive at their meeting on the morning the murder is discovered. He also goes out of the way to point out to the rest of the class that, "I came straight here from my room." It is possible that his tardiness is the result of some other unmentioned actions, or a late night. He seemed very nonchalant about Maizono's death, and also was the first to ask, "Let's say the culprit is among us. He'd be able to graduate from here, yes?". He seemed awful eager for the details on graduation. He also gave Naegi a hard time, asking him to "show proof" if he claims he is innocent, throwing suspicion on Naegi. In truth, I can't really narrow it down beyond Fujisaki, Yamada, and Togami based on current evidence (I'm not sure if the game had more that I was missing), but currently, my suspicions are on Togami. Let me know what you think! But for the people who played the game--don't spoil me. =P Garbage disposal room is locked(you can enter the room, but the incinerator and everything is blocked by a gate/fence/cage thing. Actually, I think it's more of the wall of a cage. Like, huge pipes with some gaps in between them. It looks like that. Also, huge. Can only be disabled via key, which Yamada has been assigned to hold first. Glass ball is found broken directly below the on/off switch of the incinerator. Distance between incinerator/on off switch and gate/fence/cage thing is considerably far. Also, I'd like to elaborate on the toolbox thing. Only the GUYS have the toolbox, I think the girls got a sewing kit or something like that. And while the 11037 thing could've been a red herring, you still can't exclude the possibility that it was Maizono's dying message. Also, about Togami's nonchalant-ness. That's his personality. He stands on the highest peak of society, so he thinks everyone is below him. He's pretty much Resident Heartless. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Jul 13, 2013 8:38 AM
#529
DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: VoidNoodle said: You really shouldnt shoot down theories like that, those other evidence will likley be revealed by other characters next week, your taking the fun out of it by telling people the info they dont have yet and spoiling the fun for them. Just let them go in blind, more fun for everyoneNorseFTX said: Alright, based on only the information we were given in the anime, here is my super duper awesome theory on who the killer is--! The killer is most likely Togami! Allow me to explain. Exhibit A: Glass Sphere ![]() At first glance, the broken crystal ball in the garbage disposal room is awful suspicious, and Hagakure was the first person who came to mind since the ball belongs to him, as we saw in Episode 1. However, the more I thought about it, the more strange it seemed--if this is the garbage disposal room and the culprit was trying to get rid of the evidence, if it was Hagakure, he wouldn't have left something as incriminating as the crystal ball there if he could toss it away (this is the garbage disposal room, after all). This leads me to believe that Hagakure wouldn't have left the crystal ball out in the open, and it may instead be a red herring added by the culprit to deflect suspicion away from them. This then makes me wonder--who could have committed the crime? In order to possibly narrow down suspects, I'm first going to take a look at the site of the crime. Exhibit B: Naegi's Bathroom Door ![]() It's quite apparent that someone did something to the door there. This means it's someone who didn't know about the door's "trick"--so it couldn't have been Naegi or Maizono who did that to the door. Someone earlier in the thread mentioned that it could have been opened using one of the tools in the toolbox that are found in the drawers. Exhibit C: Toolbox ![]() As you can see, there is a screwdriver with multiple heads in the box. Based on the above, the one who dislodged the bathroom doorknob didn't need to be particularly strong to break the door down; almost anyone could have done that to the door given that Monokuma left everyone a tool set as a "gift" based on Monokuma's poster note that Naegi reads. However, Naegi and Maizono both know the door is unlocked, and know the trick to opening the door. This leads me to believe that there was someone in that room besides Maizono or Naegi who broke the doorknob (so although Maizono's suicide is a possibility, it seems unlikely as there is a third member involved). Recall that Naegi's room was unlocked when he ran back to his room looking for Maizono--someone may have undone the lock using their tool set as well. Entry to the room does not seem to rule any additional people out. So next--the remnant of a piece of clothing in the garbage disposal room. Exhibit D: Burnt Dress Shirt ![]() It's burnt on the edges, which indicates to me someone tried to get rid of the original article of clothing. It's a cuff of a dress shirt; it doesn't belong to Maizono as her sleeves were still intact on her corpse (and her sleeves are blue). The people who wear white cuffs similar to those are: Hagakure, Yamada, Ishimaru, Fujisaki, Kuwata, and Togami. These people, based on the burnt dress shirt, are highly suspicious. Exhibit E: Cuff Comparison ![]() From top left, in reading order, these are Hagakure, Fujisaki, Yamada, Kuwata, Togami, and Ishimaru's cuffs. Hagakure's cuffs are rolled up, so I find him not likely to be suspicious (along with the fact of the glass sphere being left in the garbage room when he could easily have disposed of it if it were him). This leaves the other five. Something I found odd is that the blood on the burnt cuff is just on the edge, while you could see from the corpse that there was ample strawberry milkshake everywhere. How come...? --One way this might happen is for the white cuff to have been protected by an overcoat of some sort. The overcoat will block the majority of the blood splatter--except at the edge of the cuff, where we see the blood. Fujisaki, Yamada, and Togami's outfits all match this, while Kuwata and Ishimaru do not fit. Based on this, my suspicions are now on Fujisaki, Yamada, and Togami. The overcoat and dress shirt would be discarded, but a piece of the dress shirt was not completely incinerated. Regarding the dying message, others in this topic have pointed out that it spells out a name. However, this could easily be a red herring--the killer could easily have left the message there to redirect suspicion away from him/herself. Additionally, if the true murderer saw the name, he or she could easily change or erase it. On the room sign switch, as others in this topic have stated as well--it is entirely possible that Monokuma switched the signs after the room switch was made in order to help instigate the murder. How do we narrow down the suspects from there? The evidence is scant at this point, though we still can focus on the actions of each of the suspects prior to and during the investigation. Based on the state of the room (the slashes throughout the room and on the door in Exhibit B), it seems a relatively drastic struggle occurred in the room. This makes me feel that Fujisaki is unlikely. She seems like she isn't strong enough to weild a weapon and cause destruction to a room on that level. I cannot completely rule her out, though--maybe she's stronger than she looks. She isn't high on the suspect list, though--she is less suspicious than the others, as you will see. Yamada actually brought Naegi to the garbage disposal room during the investigation, which may possibly be seen as him trying to direct Naegi to the crystal ball red herring. However, he didn't seem to react at all when the burnt dress shirt was on the floor. He may just be a good actor; I'm unsure. Finally, Togami is the last one to arrive at their meeting on the morning the murder is discovered. He also goes out of the way to point out to the rest of the class that, "I came straight here from my room." It is possible that his tardiness is the result of some other unmentioned actions, or a late night. He seemed very nonchalant about Maizono's death, and also was the first to ask, "Let's say the culprit is among us. He'd be able to graduate from here, yes?". He seemed awful eager for the details on graduation. He also gave Naegi a hard time, asking him to "show proof" if he claims he is innocent, throwing suspicion on Naegi. In truth, I can't really narrow it down beyond Fujisaki, Yamada, and Togami based on current evidence (I'm not sure if the game had more that I was missing), but currently, my suspicions are on Togami. Let me know what you think! But for the people who played the game--don't spoil me. =P Garbage disposal room is locked(you can enter the room, but the incinerator and everything is blocked by a gate/fence/cage thing. Actually, I think it's more of the wall of a cage. Like, huge pipes with some gaps in between them. It looks like that. Also, huge. Can only be disabled via key, which Yamada has been assigned to hold first. Glass ball is found broken directly below the on/off switch of the incinerator. Distance between incinerator/on off switch and gate/fence/cage thing is considerably far. Also, I'd like to elaborate on the toolbox thing. Only the GUYS have the toolbox, I think the girls got a sewing kit or something like that. And while the 11037 thing could've been a red herring, you still can't exclude the possibility that it was Maizono's dying message. Also, about Togami's nonchalant-ness. That's his personality. He stands on the highest peak of society, so he thinks everyone is below him. He's pretty much Resident Heartless. Did I shoot it down? Just elaborated on the few parts that the anime skipped completely. They're theory-crafting, anyway. |
Jul 13, 2013 8:40 AM
#530
VoidNoodle said: DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: VoidNoodle said: You really shouldnt shoot down theories like that, those other evidence will likley be revealed by other characters next week, your taking the fun out of it by telling people the info they dont have yet and spoiling the fun for them. Just let them go in blind, more fun for everyoneNorseFTX said: Alright, based on only the information we were given in the anime, here is my super duper awesome theory on who the killer is--! The killer is most likely Togami! Allow me to explain. Exhibit A: Glass Sphere ![]() At first glance, the broken crystal ball in the garbage disposal room is awful suspicious, and Hagakure was the first person who came to mind since the ball belongs to him, as we saw in Episode 1. However, the more I thought about it, the more strange it seemed--if this is the garbage disposal room and the culprit was trying to get rid of the evidence, if it was Hagakure, he wouldn't have left something as incriminating as the crystal ball there if he could toss it away (this is the garbage disposal room, after all). This leads me to believe that Hagakure wouldn't have left the crystal ball out in the open, and it may instead be a red herring added by the culprit to deflect suspicion away from them. This then makes me wonder--who could have committed the crime? In order to possibly narrow down suspects, I'm first going to take a look at the site of the crime. Exhibit B: Naegi's Bathroom Door ![]() It's quite apparent that someone did something to the door there. This means it's someone who didn't know about the door's "trick"--so it couldn't have been Naegi or Maizono who did that to the door. Someone earlier in the thread mentioned that it could have been opened using one of the tools in the toolbox that are found in the drawers. Exhibit C: Toolbox ![]() As you can see, there is a screwdriver with multiple heads in the box. Based on the above, the one who dislodged the bathroom doorknob didn't need to be particularly strong to break the door down; almost anyone could have done that to the door given that Monokuma left everyone a tool set as a "gift" based on Monokuma's poster note that Naegi reads. However, Naegi and Maizono both know the door is unlocked, and know the trick to opening the door. This leads me to believe that there was someone in that room besides Maizono or Naegi who broke the doorknob (so although Maizono's suicide is a possibility, it seems unlikely as there is a third member involved). Recall that Naegi's room was unlocked when he ran back to his room looking for Maizono--someone may have undone the lock using their tool set as well. Entry to the room does not seem to rule any additional people out. So next--the remnant of a piece of clothing in the garbage disposal room. Exhibit D: Burnt Dress Shirt ![]() It's burnt on the edges, which indicates to me someone tried to get rid of the original article of clothing. It's a cuff of a dress shirt; it doesn't belong to Maizono as her sleeves were still intact on her corpse (and her sleeves are blue). The people who wear white cuffs similar to those are: Hagakure, Yamada, Ishimaru, Fujisaki, Kuwata, and Togami. These people, based on the burnt dress shirt, are highly suspicious. Exhibit E: Cuff Comparison ![]() From top left, in reading order, these are Hagakure, Fujisaki, Yamada, Kuwata, Togami, and Ishimaru's cuffs. Hagakure's cuffs are rolled up, so I find him not likely to be suspicious (along with the fact of the glass sphere being left in the garbage room when he could easily have disposed of it if it were him). This leaves the other five. Something I found odd is that the blood on the burnt cuff is just on the edge, while you could see from the corpse that there was ample strawberry milkshake everywhere. How come...? --One way this might happen is for the white cuff to have been protected by an overcoat of some sort. The overcoat will block the majority of the blood splatter--except at the edge of the cuff, where we see the blood. Fujisaki, Yamada, and Togami's outfits all match this, while Kuwata and Ishimaru do not fit. Based on this, my suspicions are now on Fujisaki, Yamada, and Togami. The overcoat and dress shirt would be discarded, but a piece of the dress shirt was not completely incinerated. Regarding the dying message, others in this topic have pointed out that it spells out a name. However, this could easily be a red herring--the killer could easily have left the message there to redirect suspicion away from him/herself. Additionally, if the true murderer saw the name, he or she could easily change or erase it. On the room sign switch, as others in this topic have stated as well--it is entirely possible that Monokuma switched the signs after the room switch was made in order to help instigate the murder. How do we narrow down the suspects from there? The evidence is scant at this point, though we still can focus on the actions of each of the suspects prior to and during the investigation. Based on the state of the room (the slashes throughout the room and on the door in Exhibit B), it seems a relatively drastic struggle occurred in the room. This makes me feel that Fujisaki is unlikely. She seems like she isn't strong enough to weild a weapon and cause destruction to a room on that level. I cannot completely rule her out, though--maybe she's stronger than she looks. She isn't high on the suspect list, though--she is less suspicious than the others, as you will see. Yamada actually brought Naegi to the garbage disposal room during the investigation, which may possibly be seen as him trying to direct Naegi to the crystal ball red herring. However, he didn't seem to react at all when the burnt dress shirt was on the floor. He may just be a good actor; I'm unsure. Finally, Togami is the last one to arrive at their meeting on the morning the murder is discovered. He also goes out of the way to point out to the rest of the class that, "I came straight here from my room." It is possible that his tardiness is the result of some other unmentioned actions, or a late night. He seemed very nonchalant about Maizono's death, and also was the first to ask, "Let's say the culprit is among us. He'd be able to graduate from here, yes?". He seemed awful eager for the details on graduation. He also gave Naegi a hard time, asking him to "show proof" if he claims he is innocent, throwing suspicion on Naegi. In truth, I can't really narrow it down beyond Fujisaki, Yamada, and Togami based on current evidence (I'm not sure if the game had more that I was missing), but currently, my suspicions are on Togami. Let me know what you think! But for the people who played the game--don't spoil me. =P Garbage disposal room is locked(you can enter the room, but the incinerator and everything is blocked by a gate/fence/cage thing. Actually, I think it's more of the wall of a cage. Like, huge pipes with some gaps in between them. It looks like that. Also, huge. Can only be disabled via key, which Yamada has been assigned to hold first. Glass ball is found broken directly below the on/off switch of the incinerator. Distance between incinerator/on off switch and gate/fence/cage thing is considerably far. Also, I'd like to elaborate on the toolbox thing. Only the GUYS have the toolbox, I think the girls got a sewing kit or something like that. And while the 11037 thing could've been a red herring, you still can't exclude the possibility that it was Maizono's dying message. Also, about Togami's nonchalant-ness. That's his personality. He stands on the highest peak of society, so he thinks everyone is below him. He's pretty much Resident Heartless. Did I shoot it down? Just elaborated on the few parts that the anime skipped completely. They're theory-crafting, anyway. Well that counts as shooting down by telling him evidence not yet shown to the anime viewer that controdicts one theory. Thats shooting down still. Just let them go blind, those of us that played or watched the game should only be replying to stop spoilers or to answer legit questions people ask, not to provide any unknown info to them, hint anything, or shoot down theories. Its more fun for them and for us, since we can laugh at dead wrong theories or see some great oh shit reactions next week |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Jul 13, 2013 8:43 AM
#531
DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: VoidNoodle said: DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: VoidNoodle said: You really shouldnt shoot down theories like that, those other evidence will likley be revealed by other characters next week, your taking the fun out of it by telling people the info they dont have yet and spoiling the fun for them. Just let them go in blind, more fun for everyoneNorseFTX said: Alright, based on only the information we were given in the anime, here is my super duper awesome theory on who the killer is--! The killer is most likely Togami! Allow me to explain. Exhibit A: Glass Sphere ![]() At first glance, the broken crystal ball in the garbage disposal room is awful suspicious, and Hagakure was the first person who came to mind since the ball belongs to him, as we saw in Episode 1. However, the more I thought about it, the more strange it seemed--if this is the garbage disposal room and the culprit was trying to get rid of the evidence, if it was Hagakure, he wouldn't have left something as incriminating as the crystal ball there if he could toss it away (this is the garbage disposal room, after all). This leads me to believe that Hagakure wouldn't have left the crystal ball out in the open, and it may instead be a red herring added by the culprit to deflect suspicion away from them. This then makes me wonder--who could have committed the crime? In order to possibly narrow down suspects, I'm first going to take a look at the site of the crime. Exhibit B: Naegi's Bathroom Door ![]() It's quite apparent that someone did something to the door there. This means it's someone who didn't know about the door's "trick"--so it couldn't have been Naegi or Maizono who did that to the door. Someone earlier in the thread mentioned that it could have been opened using one of the tools in the toolbox that are found in the drawers. Exhibit C: Toolbox ![]() As you can see, there is a screwdriver with multiple heads in the box. Based on the above, the one who dislodged the bathroom doorknob didn't need to be particularly strong to break the door down; almost anyone could have done that to the door given that Monokuma left everyone a tool set as a "gift" based on Monokuma's poster note that Naegi reads. However, Naegi and Maizono both know the door is unlocked, and know the trick to opening the door. This leads me to believe that there was someone in that room besides Maizono or Naegi who broke the doorknob (so although Maizono's suicide is a possibility, it seems unlikely as there is a third member involved). Recall that Naegi's room was unlocked when he ran back to his room looking for Maizono--someone may have undone the lock using their tool set as well. Entry to the room does not seem to rule any additional people out. So next--the remnant of a piece of clothing in the garbage disposal room. Exhibit D: Burnt Dress Shirt ![]() It's burnt on the edges, which indicates to me someone tried to get rid of the original article of clothing. It's a cuff of a dress shirt; it doesn't belong to Maizono as her sleeves were still intact on her corpse (and her sleeves are blue). The people who wear white cuffs similar to those are: Hagakure, Yamada, Ishimaru, Fujisaki, Kuwata, and Togami. These people, based on the burnt dress shirt, are highly suspicious. Exhibit E: Cuff Comparison ![]() From top left, in reading order, these are Hagakure, Fujisaki, Yamada, Kuwata, Togami, and Ishimaru's cuffs. Hagakure's cuffs are rolled up, so I find him not likely to be suspicious (along with the fact of the glass sphere being left in the garbage room when he could easily have disposed of it if it were him). This leaves the other five. Something I found odd is that the blood on the burnt cuff is just on the edge, while you could see from the corpse that there was ample strawberry milkshake everywhere. How come...? --One way this might happen is for the white cuff to have been protected by an overcoat of some sort. The overcoat will block the majority of the blood splatter--except at the edge of the cuff, where we see the blood. Fujisaki, Yamada, and Togami's outfits all match this, while Kuwata and Ishimaru do not fit. Based on this, my suspicions are now on Fujisaki, Yamada, and Togami. The overcoat and dress shirt would be discarded, but a piece of the dress shirt was not completely incinerated. Regarding the dying message, others in this topic have pointed out that it spells out a name. However, this could easily be a red herring--the killer could easily have left the message there to redirect suspicion away from him/herself. Additionally, if the true murderer saw the name, he or she could easily change or erase it. On the room sign switch, as others in this topic have stated as well--it is entirely possible that Monokuma switched the signs after the room switch was made in order to help instigate the murder. How do we narrow down the suspects from there? The evidence is scant at this point, though we still can focus on the actions of each of the suspects prior to and during the investigation. Based on the state of the room (the slashes throughout the room and on the door in Exhibit B), it seems a relatively drastic struggle occurred in the room. This makes me feel that Fujisaki is unlikely. She seems like she isn't strong enough to weild a weapon and cause destruction to a room on that level. I cannot completely rule her out, though--maybe she's stronger than she looks. She isn't high on the suspect list, though--she is less suspicious than the others, as you will see. Yamada actually brought Naegi to the garbage disposal room during the investigation, which may possibly be seen as him trying to direct Naegi to the crystal ball red herring. However, he didn't seem to react at all when the burnt dress shirt was on the floor. He may just be a good actor; I'm unsure. Finally, Togami is the last one to arrive at their meeting on the morning the murder is discovered. He also goes out of the way to point out to the rest of the class that, "I came straight here from my room." It is possible that his tardiness is the result of some other unmentioned actions, or a late night. He seemed very nonchalant about Maizono's death, and also was the first to ask, "Let's say the culprit is among us. He'd be able to graduate from here, yes?". He seemed awful eager for the details on graduation. He also gave Naegi a hard time, asking him to "show proof" if he claims he is innocent, throwing suspicion on Naegi. In truth, I can't really narrow it down beyond Fujisaki, Yamada, and Togami based on current evidence (I'm not sure if the game had more that I was missing), but currently, my suspicions are on Togami. Let me know what you think! But for the people who played the game--don't spoil me. =P Garbage disposal room is locked(you can enter the room, but the incinerator and everything is blocked by a gate/fence/cage thing. Actually, I think it's more of the wall of a cage. Like, huge pipes with some gaps in between them. It looks like that. Also, huge. Can only be disabled via key, which Yamada has been assigned to hold first. Glass ball is found broken directly below the on/off switch of the incinerator. Distance between incinerator/on off switch and gate/fence/cage thing is considerably far. Also, I'd like to elaborate on the toolbox thing. Only the GUYS have the toolbox, I think the girls got a sewing kit or something like that. And while the 11037 thing could've been a red herring, you still can't exclude the possibility that it was Maizono's dying message. Also, about Togami's nonchalant-ness. That's his personality. He stands on the highest peak of society, so he thinks everyone is below him. He's pretty much Resident Heartless. Did I shoot it down? Just elaborated on the few parts that the anime skipped completely. They're theory-crafting, anyway. Well that counts as shooting down by telling him evidence not yet shown to the anime viewer that controdicts one theory. Thats shooting down still. Just let them go blind, those of us that played or watched the game should only be replying to stop spoilers or to answer legit questions people ask, not to provide any unknown info to them, hint anything, or shoot down theories But that's the thing. This info was presented by the anime to the viewer, but they didn't elaborate it clearly. Like..."hey here are the evidences, be quick to catch them fly from one side of your screen to the next." It's not "unknown". It "should've been known, but skipped." Unless they skipped it for suspense, but wtf -_- |
Jul 13, 2013 8:45 AM
#532
VoidNoodle said: DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: VoidNoodle said: DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: VoidNoodle said: You really shouldnt shoot down theories like that, those other evidence will likley be revealed by other characters next week, your taking the fun out of it by telling people the info they dont have yet and spoiling the fun for them. Just let them go in blind, more fun for everyoneNorseFTX said: Alright, based on only the information we were given in the anime, here is my super duper awesome theory on who the killer is--! The killer is most likely Togami! Allow me to explain. Exhibit A: Glass Sphere ![]() At first glance, the broken crystal ball in the garbage disposal room is awful suspicious, and Hagakure was the first person who came to mind since the ball belongs to him, as we saw in Episode 1. However, the more I thought about it, the more strange it seemed--if this is the garbage disposal room and the culprit was trying to get rid of the evidence, if it was Hagakure, he wouldn't have left something as incriminating as the crystal ball there if he could toss it away (this is the garbage disposal room, after all). This leads me to believe that Hagakure wouldn't have left the crystal ball out in the open, and it may instead be a red herring added by the culprit to deflect suspicion away from them. This then makes me wonder--who could have committed the crime? In order to possibly narrow down suspects, I'm first going to take a look at the site of the crime. Exhibit B: Naegi's Bathroom Door ![]() It's quite apparent that someone did something to the door there. This means it's someone who didn't know about the door's "trick"--so it couldn't have been Naegi or Maizono who did that to the door. Someone earlier in the thread mentioned that it could have been opened using one of the tools in the toolbox that are found in the drawers. Exhibit C: Toolbox ![]() As you can see, there is a screwdriver with multiple heads in the box. Based on the above, the one who dislodged the bathroom doorknob didn't need to be particularly strong to break the door down; almost anyone could have done that to the door given that Monokuma left everyone a tool set as a "gift" based on Monokuma's poster note that Naegi reads. However, Naegi and Maizono both know the door is unlocked, and know the trick to opening the door. This leads me to believe that there was someone in that room besides Maizono or Naegi who broke the doorknob (so although Maizono's suicide is a possibility, it seems unlikely as there is a third member involved). Recall that Naegi's room was unlocked when he ran back to his room looking for Maizono--someone may have undone the lock using their tool set as well. Entry to the room does not seem to rule any additional people out. So next--the remnant of a piece of clothing in the garbage disposal room. Exhibit D: Burnt Dress Shirt ![]() It's burnt on the edges, which indicates to me someone tried to get rid of the original article of clothing. It's a cuff of a dress shirt; it doesn't belong to Maizono as her sleeves were still intact on her corpse (and her sleeves are blue). The people who wear white cuffs similar to those are: Hagakure, Yamada, Ishimaru, Fujisaki, Kuwata, and Togami. These people, based on the burnt dress shirt, are highly suspicious. Exhibit E: Cuff Comparison ![]() From top left, in reading order, these are Hagakure, Fujisaki, Yamada, Kuwata, Togami, and Ishimaru's cuffs. Hagakure's cuffs are rolled up, so I find him not likely to be suspicious (along with the fact of the glass sphere being left in the garbage room when he could easily have disposed of it if it were him). This leaves the other five. Something I found odd is that the blood on the burnt cuff is just on the edge, while you could see from the corpse that there was ample strawberry milkshake everywhere. How come...? --One way this might happen is for the white cuff to have been protected by an overcoat of some sort. The overcoat will block the majority of the blood splatter--except at the edge of the cuff, where we see the blood. Fujisaki, Yamada, and Togami's outfits all match this, while Kuwata and Ishimaru do not fit. Based on this, my suspicions are now on Fujisaki, Yamada, and Togami. The overcoat and dress shirt would be discarded, but a piece of the dress shirt was not completely incinerated. Regarding the dying message, others in this topic have pointed out that it spells out a name. However, this could easily be a red herring--the killer could easily have left the message there to redirect suspicion away from him/herself. Additionally, if the true murderer saw the name, he or she could easily change or erase it. On the room sign switch, as others in this topic have stated as well--it is entirely possible that Monokuma switched the signs after the room switch was made in order to help instigate the murder. How do we narrow down the suspects from there? The evidence is scant at this point, though we still can focus on the actions of each of the suspects prior to and during the investigation. Based on the state of the room (the slashes throughout the room and on the door in Exhibit B), it seems a relatively drastic struggle occurred in the room. This makes me feel that Fujisaki is unlikely. She seems like she isn't strong enough to weild a weapon and cause destruction to a room on that level. I cannot completely rule her out, though--maybe she's stronger than she looks. She isn't high on the suspect list, though--she is less suspicious than the others, as you will see. Yamada actually brought Naegi to the garbage disposal room during the investigation, which may possibly be seen as him trying to direct Naegi to the crystal ball red herring. However, he didn't seem to react at all when the burnt dress shirt was on the floor. He may just be a good actor; I'm unsure. Finally, Togami is the last one to arrive at their meeting on the morning the murder is discovered. He also goes out of the way to point out to the rest of the class that, "I came straight here from my room." It is possible that his tardiness is the result of some other unmentioned actions, or a late night. He seemed very nonchalant about Maizono's death, and also was the first to ask, "Let's say the culprit is among us. He'd be able to graduate from here, yes?". He seemed awful eager for the details on graduation. He also gave Naegi a hard time, asking him to "show proof" if he claims he is innocent, throwing suspicion on Naegi. In truth, I can't really narrow it down beyond Fujisaki, Yamada, and Togami based on current evidence (I'm not sure if the game had more that I was missing), but currently, my suspicions are on Togami. Let me know what you think! But for the people who played the game--don't spoil me. =P Garbage disposal room is locked(you can enter the room, but the incinerator and everything is blocked by a gate/fence/cage thing. Actually, I think it's more of the wall of a cage. Like, huge pipes with some gaps in between them. It looks like that. Also, huge. Can only be disabled via key, which Yamada has been assigned to hold first. Glass ball is found broken directly below the on/off switch of the incinerator. Distance between incinerator/on off switch and gate/fence/cage thing is considerably far. Also, I'd like to elaborate on the toolbox thing. Only the GUYS have the toolbox, I think the girls got a sewing kit or something like that. And while the 11037 thing could've been a red herring, you still can't exclude the possibility that it was Maizono's dying message. Also, about Togami's nonchalant-ness. That's his personality. He stands on the highest peak of society, so he thinks everyone is below him. He's pretty much Resident Heartless. Did I shoot it down? Just elaborated on the few parts that the anime skipped completely. They're theory-crafting, anyway. Well that counts as shooting down by telling him evidence not yet shown to the anime viewer that controdicts one theory. Thats shooting down still. Just let them go blind, those of us that played or watched the game should only be replying to stop spoilers or to answer legit questions people ask, not to provide any unknown info to them, hint anything, or shoot down theories But that's the thing. This info was presented by the anime to the viewer, but they didn't elaborate it clearly. Like..."hey here are the evidences, be quick to catch them fly from one side of your screen to the next." It's not "unknown". It "should've been known, but skipped." Unless they skipped it for suspense, but wtf -_- Yeah exactly, thats why im saying next week in the trial they will reveal more, you shouldnt be telling them something not already shown in the anime. It spoils the fun for everyone. Stop trying to justify it what is essentially spoiling things If you think the adaptation isnt fair, then dont just spoil things to those who enjoy it, just post the lp thread or tell them to go play the english patch, its that simple |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Jul 13, 2013 8:47 AM
#533
DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: VoidNoodle said: DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: VoidNoodle said: DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: VoidNoodle said: You really shouldnt shoot down theories like that, those other evidence will likley be revealed by other characters next week, your taking the fun out of it by telling people the info they dont have yet and spoiling the fun for them. Just let them go in blind, more fun for everyoneNorseFTX said: Alright, based on only the information we were given in the anime, here is my super duper awesome theory on who the killer is--! The killer is most likely Togami! Allow me to explain. Exhibit A: Glass Sphere ![]() At first glance, the broken crystal ball in the garbage disposal room is awful suspicious, and Hagakure was the first person who came to mind since the ball belongs to him, as we saw in Episode 1. However, the more I thought about it, the more strange it seemed--if this is the garbage disposal room and the culprit was trying to get rid of the evidence, if it was Hagakure, he wouldn't have left something as incriminating as the crystal ball there if he could toss it away (this is the garbage disposal room, after all). This leads me to believe that Hagakure wouldn't have left the crystal ball out in the open, and it may instead be a red herring added by the culprit to deflect suspicion away from them. This then makes me wonder--who could have committed the crime? In order to possibly narrow down suspects, I'm first going to take a look at the site of the crime. Exhibit B: Naegi's Bathroom Door ![]() It's quite apparent that someone did something to the door there. This means it's someone who didn't know about the door's "trick"--so it couldn't have been Naegi or Maizono who did that to the door. Someone earlier in the thread mentioned that it could have been opened using one of the tools in the toolbox that are found in the drawers. Exhibit C: Toolbox ![]() As you can see, there is a screwdriver with multiple heads in the box. Based on the above, the one who dislodged the bathroom doorknob didn't need to be particularly strong to break the door down; almost anyone could have done that to the door given that Monokuma left everyone a tool set as a "gift" based on Monokuma's poster note that Naegi reads. However, Naegi and Maizono both know the door is unlocked, and know the trick to opening the door. This leads me to believe that there was someone in that room besides Maizono or Naegi who broke the doorknob (so although Maizono's suicide is a possibility, it seems unlikely as there is a third member involved). Recall that Naegi's room was unlocked when he ran back to his room looking for Maizono--someone may have undone the lock using their tool set as well. Entry to the room does not seem to rule any additional people out. So next--the remnant of a piece of clothing in the garbage disposal room. Exhibit D: Burnt Dress Shirt ![]() It's burnt on the edges, which indicates to me someone tried to get rid of the original article of clothing. It's a cuff of a dress shirt; it doesn't belong to Maizono as her sleeves were still intact on her corpse (and her sleeves are blue). The people who wear white cuffs similar to those are: Hagakure, Yamada, Ishimaru, Fujisaki, Kuwata, and Togami. These people, based on the burnt dress shirt, are highly suspicious. Exhibit E: Cuff Comparison ![]() From top left, in reading order, these are Hagakure, Fujisaki, Yamada, Kuwata, Togami, and Ishimaru's cuffs. Hagakure's cuffs are rolled up, so I find him not likely to be suspicious (along with the fact of the glass sphere being left in the garbage room when he could easily have disposed of it if it were him). This leaves the other five. Something I found odd is that the blood on the burnt cuff is just on the edge, while you could see from the corpse that there was ample strawberry milkshake everywhere. How come...? --One way this might happen is for the white cuff to have been protected by an overcoat of some sort. The overcoat will block the majority of the blood splatter--except at the edge of the cuff, where we see the blood. Fujisaki, Yamada, and Togami's outfits all match this, while Kuwata and Ishimaru do not fit. Based on this, my suspicions are now on Fujisaki, Yamada, and Togami. The overcoat and dress shirt would be discarded, but a piece of the dress shirt was not completely incinerated. Regarding the dying message, others in this topic have pointed out that it spells out a name. However, this could easily be a red herring--the killer could easily have left the message there to redirect suspicion away from him/herself. Additionally, if the true murderer saw the name, he or she could easily change or erase it. On the room sign switch, as others in this topic have stated as well--it is entirely possible that Monokuma switched the signs after the room switch was made in order to help instigate the murder. How do we narrow down the suspects from there? The evidence is scant at this point, though we still can focus on the actions of each of the suspects prior to and during the investigation. Based on the state of the room (the slashes throughout the room and on the door in Exhibit B), it seems a relatively drastic struggle occurred in the room. This makes me feel that Fujisaki is unlikely. She seems like she isn't strong enough to weild a weapon and cause destruction to a room on that level. I cannot completely rule her out, though--maybe she's stronger than she looks. She isn't high on the suspect list, though--she is less suspicious than the others, as you will see. Yamada actually brought Naegi to the garbage disposal room during the investigation, which may possibly be seen as him trying to direct Naegi to the crystal ball red herring. However, he didn't seem to react at all when the burnt dress shirt was on the floor. He may just be a good actor; I'm unsure. Finally, Togami is the last one to arrive at their meeting on the morning the murder is discovered. He also goes out of the way to point out to the rest of the class that, "I came straight here from my room." It is possible that his tardiness is the result of some other unmentioned actions, or a late night. He seemed very nonchalant about Maizono's death, and also was the first to ask, "Let's say the culprit is among us. He'd be able to graduate from here, yes?". He seemed awful eager for the details on graduation. He also gave Naegi a hard time, asking him to "show proof" if he claims he is innocent, throwing suspicion on Naegi. In truth, I can't really narrow it down beyond Fujisaki, Yamada, and Togami based on current evidence (I'm not sure if the game had more that I was missing), but currently, my suspicions are on Togami. Let me know what you think! But for the people who played the game--don't spoil me. =P Garbage disposal room is locked(you can enter the room, but the incinerator and everything is blocked by a gate/fence/cage thing. Actually, I think it's more of the wall of a cage. Like, huge pipes with some gaps in between them. It looks like that. Also, huge. Can only be disabled via key, which Yamada has been assigned to hold first. Glass ball is found broken directly below the on/off switch of the incinerator. Distance between incinerator/on off switch and gate/fence/cage thing is considerably far. Also, I'd like to elaborate on the toolbox thing. Only the GUYS have the toolbox, I think the girls got a sewing kit or something like that. And while the 11037 thing could've been a red herring, you still can't exclude the possibility that it was Maizono's dying message. Also, about Togami's nonchalant-ness. That's his personality. He stands on the highest peak of society, so he thinks everyone is below him. He's pretty much Resident Heartless. Did I shoot it down? Just elaborated on the few parts that the anime skipped completely. They're theory-crafting, anyway. Well that counts as shooting down by telling him evidence not yet shown to the anime viewer that controdicts one theory. Thats shooting down still. Just let them go blind, those of us that played or watched the game should only be replying to stop spoilers or to answer legit questions people ask, not to provide any unknown info to them, hint anything, or shoot down theories But that's the thing. This info was presented by the anime to the viewer, but they didn't elaborate it clearly. Like..."hey here are the evidences, be quick to catch them fly from one side of your screen to the next." It's not "unknown". It "should've been known, but skipped." Unless they skipped it for suspense, but wtf -_- Yeah exactly, thats why im saying next week in the trial they will reveal more, you shouldnt be telling them something not already shown in the anime. It spoils the fun for everyone. Stop trying to justify it what is essentially spoiling things Again, I posted this for theory-crafters to speculate. I mearly supplied them with the information "that should've been available to the viewers during the investigation phase". Hence, spoiler tags. |
Jul 13, 2013 8:48 AM
#534
VoidNoodle said: I mearly supplied them with the information "that should've been available to the viewers during the investigation phase".. Yah that has another definition, its called spoiling, spoiler tag or not you are not supposed to post them. If the anime didnt supply that evidence it will likely be supplied next week. and if it doesnt its safe to talk about them next week.....not noe You are also supplying this evidence to people not asking for it As i said, those of us that played the game shouldnt be giving hints, evidence or anything like your doing |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Jul 13, 2013 8:55 AM
#535
DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: VoidNoodle said: I mearly supplied them with the information "that should've been available to the viewers during the investigation phase".. Yah that has another definition, its called spoiling, spoiler tag or not you are not supposed to post them. If the anime didnt supply that evidence it will likely be supplied next week. and if it doesnt its safe to talk about them next week.....not noe You are also supplying this evidence to people not asking for it As i said, those of us that played the game shouldnt be giving hints, evidence or anything like your doing Again, for theory-crafters. But anyway. Quite fun watching them create speculations. :) |
Jul 13, 2013 8:55 AM
#536
kuuurt said: ...so. We can all agree that she is best girl, right? ![]() Kirigiri best girl :3 |
Jul 13, 2013 9:11 AM
#537
| They have done pretty good so far. But the one thing I don't like is how we aren't getting any depth to the characters. I guess it can't be helped with only 13 episodes. But I would have like to see more about Junko and even Maizono. The part were Naegi was inspecting the crime scene was rushed too. I guess they felt it wasn't needed? But other than that its following exactly how the game went which is great. |
Jul 13, 2013 9:16 AM
#538
VoidNoodle said: kuuurt said: ...so. We can all agree that she is best girl, right? ![]() Kirigiri best girl :3 I personally like Chihiro. As much as I'd like to end it with that...I have some doubts about...Chihiro's true identity? someone mentioned how she has a male VA and I'm REALLY starting to think that Chihiro's a guy. Girls voice acting for guys is something pretty normal I see around which is understandable especially if the character's a young boy, BUT A GUY VOICE ACTING WHAT APPEARS TO BE A GIRL?? There has to be a solid reason for this, and my guess is that SHE is actually a GUY. Ok, I've only seen this happen TWICE in all of my anime-watching experience and the first instance is...well Sakura but this is self-explainable xD. MANLY WOMAN (the manliest I've ever seen) NEEDS MACHO MAN VOICE. End of that case. She's also undeniably a female with her interest in fashion magazines, her...cough cough little school uniform outfit. Could swing for the other team, but I think it's been confirmed she's a girl lol. Thank god that mystery's solved.The other instance was with this character turned out to be a hermaphrodite...so whatever the heck Chihiro is, I think that he's actually a boy otherwise they would've used a girl to voice act her. Chihiro undeniably acts sort of like a girl...so maybe transgender but I don't really understand why you'd try to hide your gender. Maybe it's just his hobby, or maybe Chihiro's half boy (you never knowww lol). Cross dressing is more likely but I'm starting to have doubts...ughh I don't know. I don't usually have a problem identifying the genders of people. Only in anime. Only. lol |
Jul 13, 2013 9:56 AM
#539
| Getting into this. I think she killed herself. If not there will be at least one suicide that will throw everyone else sometime else down the line. |
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Jul 13, 2013 10:03 AM
#540
TehWhiteTiger said: Getting into this. I think she killed herself. If not there will be at least one suicide that will throw everyone else sometime else down the line. She would have to be quite crafty to break her wrist AND stab herself at the same time just for a suicide. :D But yeah, you have to consider all the crazy possibilities with these cases. o: EarlCiel said: I personally like Chihiro. As much as I'd like to end it with that...I have some doubts about...Chihiro's true identity? (...) I don't usually have a problem identifying the genders of people. Only in anime. Only. lol Chihiro has a male VA? That’s funny, I never noticed... Then again, I found out about Naegi’s female VA only after I’ve finished the game and checked the credits, so it’s probably safe to say that I am horrendous with this kind of thing in anime. :D |
VokocaJul 13, 2013 10:08 AM
Jul 13, 2013 10:11 AM
#541
I'm shocked, the fighter was actually a girl. Reverse trap. Last week I was shocked the programmer was a guy lol |
BernkastleJul 13, 2013 10:19 AM
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Jul 13, 2013 10:13 AM
#542
sherlock5545 said: I'm socked, the fighter was actually a girl. Reverse trap. Last week I was shocked the programmer was a guy lol Dude spoiler that!! |
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Jul 13, 2013 10:18 AM
#543
| Under spoiler tag now, but you can pretty much guess from this episode lol |
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Jul 13, 2013 10:26 AM
#544
VoidNoodle said: na35899 said: i dont understand i thought after killing one person you can just leave rigth? y is there a class trail Monokuma explained this after Naegi woke up. Basically, a Class Trial will happen a few long minutes after the body has been found. Monokuma gave them time to investigate everything for use in the Class Trial. It's...Monokuma's personal little twist to the game, I think. I mean, it would've been boring for him if someone just killed someone, and left, right? That's why the Class Trial exist. To determine who's the culprit. It makes it more interesting for him. Wrong culprit = everyone dies, and culprit gets to "graduate". Correct culprit = culprit dies, everyone lives on. Does it mean once the class trial is complete, the show is over? Either the murderer survives or the rest of the class leaves? I am guessing that the students will be given more time for investigation after the first class trial, and perhaps come together for a second or even third class trial. I also wonder what will happen if somebody decided to murder another student while all the mess is going on. |
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Jul 13, 2013 10:27 AM
#545
Vokoca said: TehWhiteTiger said: Getting into this. I think she killed herself. If not there will be at least one suicide that will throw everyone else sometime else down the line. She would have to be quite crafty to break her wrist AND stab herself at the same time just for a suicide. :D But yeah, you have to consider all the crazy possibilities with these cases. o: EarlCiel said: I personally like Chihiro. As much as I'd like to end it with that...I have some doubts about...Chihiro's true identity? (...) I don't usually have a problem identifying the genders of people. Only in anime. Only. lol Chihiro has a male VA? That’s funny, I never noticed... Then again, I found out about Naegi’s female VA only after I’ve finished the game and checked the credits, so it’s probably safe to say that I am horrendous with this kind of thing in anime. :D You never know. Ever watch that Simpsons episode where there was a court case for someone attacking a waiter or something, but it turned out he was just a be clutz? Maybe she just fell over onto her knife and broke her wrist XD. Although that wouldn't explain the slash marks all over the room. We will see :P. |
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Jul 13, 2013 10:27 AM
#546
sherlock5545 said: Under spoiler tag now, but you can pretty much guess from this episode lol It wasn't Sakura I was talking about, that part was never supposed to be hidden. |
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Jul 13, 2013 10:32 AM
#547
| Weird way of censuring... pink blood... look pretty stupid... And well this episode was better than the last one... |
Jul 13, 2013 10:42 AM
#548
VoidNoodle said: Thing is, he wasn't asking for further evidence. He's only asking if his logic was plausible. And quite frankly, his logic makes sense with concrete details. Although I have a problem with one thing (from anime point of view only). And there you are shooting theories down by showing unknown evidence to the anime viewers. That will only spoil the fun for them.Again, for theory-crafters. But anyway. Quite fun watching them create speculations. :) |
Jul 13, 2013 10:50 AM
#549
| After re watching the episode. These are my top 3 choices on who did it. Yasuhiro Hagakure Leon Kuwata Mondo Oowada Looking at the evidence. The culprit had to be strong. Able to wield a sword for that matter and cause those slash marks on the wall. Also since they broke the door down and killed Maizono. @NorseFTX: I love your theories. |
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