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skudoops said: VoidNoodle said: Watching people theorize who the culprit is is pretty fun. It's fun trying to figure it out tbh. I like shows like these because of that. The internet and message boards make these shows 10000 times more fun. |
sisgood said: Patureau said: I believe the door thing has something to do with this... the handle was broken when naegi found her, and judging by the fact that door got stucked often i'm guessing the killer was someone strong enough to break through the door even when it got stucked And if he is smart, Naigai can use that for his defense. Whoever killed her did NOT know how to get in that bathroom. Since it's his room, he would have just jimmied the handle and walked in. Yes, I know that IF he were the killer and was REALLY smart, he would have broke the doorknob anyway and used it for a defense but these are teenagers we are talking about here... No offense to smart teens... And also i highly doubt naegi holds the strenght necessary to break the door, i also believe this was the case of she pissing someone off and this someone going after her, the fact that the room is all messed up suggests a struggle which suggests that killer was emotional driven, also the fact that naegi rooms had maizono image on the door suggest the killer was looking for her and her only, which again suggest some kind of emotional involvement |
Patureau said: sisgood said: Patureau said: I believe the door thing has something to do with this... the handle was broken when naegi found her, and judging by the fact that door got stucked often i'm guessing the killer was someone strong enough to break through the door even when it got stucked And if he is smart, Naigai can use that for his defense. Whoever killed her did NOT know how to get in that bathroom. Since it's his room, he would have just jimmied the handle and walked in. Yes, I know that IF he were the killer and was REALLY smart, he would have broke the doorknob anyway and used it for a defense but these are teenagers we are talking about here... No offense to smart teens... And also i highly doubt naegi holds the strenght necessary to break the door, i also believe this was the case of she pissing someone off and this someone going after her, the fact that the room is all messed up suggests a struggle which suggests that killer was emotional driven, also the fact that naegi rooms had maizono image on the door suggest the killer was looking for her and her only, which again suggest some kind of emotional involvement Naegi could've done it easily, though. Remember the... |
VoidNoodle said: Patureau said: sisgood said: Patureau said: I believe the door thing has something to do with this... the handle was broken when naegi found her, and judging by the fact that door got stucked often i'm guessing the killer was someone strong enough to break through the door even when it got stucked And if he is smart, Naigai can use that for his defense. Whoever killed her did NOT know how to get in that bathroom. Since it's his room, he would have just jimmied the handle and walked in. Yes, I know that IF he were the killer and was REALLY smart, he would have broke the doorknob anyway and used it for a defense but these are teenagers we are talking about here... No offense to smart teens... And also i highly doubt naegi holds the strenght necessary to break the door, i also believe this was the case of she pissing someone off and this someone going after her, the fact that the room is all messed up suggests a struggle which suggests that killer was emotional driven, also the fact that naegi rooms had maizono image on the door suggest the killer was looking for her and her only, which again suggest some kind of emotional involvement Naegi could've done it easily, though. Remember the... hmm true i forgot about that... i guess he could have done it them... but that also means the killer is not necessarily strong as i previously thought... in fact it makes it even more believeable that the killer is actually not very strong, judging by the fact he/she struggled with a small girl, and used a knife as a weapon, a weapon that dont really gives much advantage to a strong person |
| This got pretty epic quick. Didn't expect a death this early. The clues were a bit rushed so I'm having a bit of trouble guessing who the murderer could have possibly been, but I think that's done on purpose so that things come more as a surprise to the viewers. Disappointed that the fashion girl died the way she did; I kinda liked her haha. At first I thought that the idol may have committed suicide, but with a fractured hand and the door as messed up as it was, I don't think that's the case anymore. |
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VoidNoodle said: Patureau said: sisgood said: Patureau said: I believe the door thing has something to do with this... the handle was broken when naegi found her, and judging by the fact that door got stucked often i'm guessing the killer was someone strong enough to break through the door even when it got stucked And if he is smart, Naigai can use that for his defense. Whoever killed her did NOT know how to get in that bathroom. Since it's his room, he would have just jimmied the handle and walked in. Yes, I know that IF he were the killer and was REALLY smart, he would have broke the doorknob anyway and used it for a defense but these are teenagers we are talking about here... No offense to smart teens... And also i highly doubt naegi holds the strenght necessary to break the door, i also believe this was the case of she pissing someone off and this someone going after her, the fact that the room is all messed up suggests a struggle which suggests that killer was emotional driven, also the fact that naegi rooms had maizono image on the door suggest the killer was looking for her and her only, which again suggest some kind of emotional involvement Naegi could've done it easily, though. Remember the... I THINK the knob was kinda bent though. And that's a really small gizmo he would have been using. |
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sisgood said: VoidNoodle said: Patureau said: sisgood said: Patureau said: I believe the door thing has something to do with this... the handle was broken when naegi found her, and judging by the fact that door got stucked often i'm guessing the killer was someone strong enough to break through the door even when it got stucked And if he is smart, Naigai can use that for his defense. Whoever killed her did NOT know how to get in that bathroom. Since it's his room, he would have just jimmied the handle and walked in. Yes, I know that IF he were the killer and was REALLY smart, he would have broke the doorknob anyway and used it for a defense but these are teenagers we are talking about here... No offense to smart teens... And also i highly doubt naegi holds the strenght necessary to break the door, i also believe this was the case of she pissing someone off and this someone going after her, the fact that the room is all messed up suggests a struggle which suggests that killer was emotional driven, also the fact that naegi rooms had maizono image on the door suggest the killer was looking for her and her only, which again suggest some kind of emotional involvement Naegi could've done it easily, though. Remember the... I THINK the knob was kinda bent though. And that's a really small gizmo he would have been using. There was a screwdriver in there, I think. Also a hammer. Can't remember much, but I'm certain there was a screwdriver. |
VoidNoodle said: sisgood said: VoidNoodle said: Patureau said: sisgood said: Patureau said: I believe the door thing has something to do with this... the handle was broken when naegi found her, and judging by the fact that door got stucked often i'm guessing the killer was someone strong enough to break through the door even when it got stucked And if he is smart, Naigai can use that for his defense. Whoever killed her did NOT know how to get in that bathroom. Since it's his room, he would have just jimmied the handle and walked in. Yes, I know that IF he were the killer and was REALLY smart, he would have broke the doorknob anyway and used it for a defense but these are teenagers we are talking about here... No offense to smart teens... And also i highly doubt naegi holds the strenght necessary to break the door, i also believe this was the case of she pissing someone off and this someone going after her, the fact that the room is all messed up suggests a struggle which suggests that killer was emotional driven, also the fact that naegi rooms had maizono image on the door suggest the killer was looking for her and her only, which again suggest some kind of emotional involvement Naegi could've done it easily, though. Remember the... I THINK the knob was kinda bent though. And that's a really small gizmo he would have been using. There was a screwdriver in there, I think. Also a hammer. Can't remember much, but I'm certain there was a screwdriver. There was a hammer, but it was TINY. Barely bigger that the screwdriver. It would have taken too long, and been really loud to bend the door plate like that with that tiny thing. |
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| I like reading this a lot, finally, people who get at least a little bit how the game/anime work and don't complain when a mystery doesn't give you the answer immediatly. People who don't only look at the obvious parts, but also at the details (as the toolbox). Don't forget the who/why/how (particularly the why) and the Crime reconstruction afterward. Also, don't forget to try to explain everything. Including the room swap, etc. |
| I dislike how they did the second kill, it seemed unnecessary. |
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sisgood said: VoidNoodle said: sisgood said: VoidNoodle said: Patureau said: sisgood said: Patureau said: I believe the door thing has something to do with this... the handle was broken when naegi found her, and judging by the fact that door got stucked often i'm guessing the killer was someone strong enough to break through the door even when it got stucked And if he is smart, Naigai can use that for his defense. Whoever killed her did NOT know how to get in that bathroom. Since it's his room, he would have just jimmied the handle and walked in. Yes, I know that IF he were the killer and was REALLY smart, he would have broke the doorknob anyway and used it for a defense but these are teenagers we are talking about here... No offense to smart teens... And also i highly doubt naegi holds the strenght necessary to break the door, i also believe this was the case of she pissing someone off and this someone going after her, the fact that the room is all messed up suggests a struggle which suggests that killer was emotional driven, also the fact that naegi rooms had maizono image on the door suggest the killer was looking for her and her only, which again suggest some kind of emotional involvement Naegi could've done it easily, though. Remember the... I THINK the knob was kinda bent though. And that's a really small gizmo he would have been using. There was a screwdriver in there, I think. Also a hammer. Can't remember much, but I'm certain there was a screwdriver. There was a hammer, but it was TINY. Barely bigger that the screwdriver. It would have taken too long, and been really loud to bend the door plate like that with that tiny thing. I don't remember if the anime says this, but the rooms are FULLY soundproof. You can shout all you want or anything, nobody will hear you. |
| I think one of the biggest questions here is who switched the the pictures indicating which room was naegi's and which was maizono's... was it automatically switched when they switched rooms ? or was the killer ? depending on the answer it would change completely my view of the murderer |
Patureau said: I think one of the biggest questions here is who switched the the pictures indicating which room was naegi's and which was maizono's... was it automatically switched when they switched rooms ? or was the killer ? depending on the answer it would change completely my view of the murderer Monobear I bet. |
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Kur0i_Senritsu said: I think that Maizono killed herself and wanted to make it look like someone killed her for some reason. Why would she do that? I'm not saying you're wrong see seemed crazy to me I thought she was the killer, hell she probably still is and somehow faked her death, I'm just going on assumptions though there's no way I can prove that. |
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Objurgo said: I dislike how they did the second kill, it seemed unnecessary. As Monokuma said, it was to show how series he is about all this. I felt it was pretty necessary, otherwise they would take Monokuma as a joke. |
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sisgood said: Patureau said: I think one of the biggest questions here is who switched the the pictures indicating which room was naegi's and which was maizono's... was it automatically switched when they switched rooms ? or was the killer ? depending on the answer it would change completely my view of the murderer Monobear I bet. my bet is there too, but there is another question, did he switched before or after the murder ? i'm guessing before, folowwing the theory that the killer was emontionally driven and after maizono specifically |
| Maizono died. OMG, I thought she was gonna kill someone but she got killed instead... I hope the main character gets killed instead. Who killed her now... I thought, she would turn into a pyscho and kill someone/attempt to kill... I am missing her already. My favorite character died as well!!!!!!!! What the hell is this... They could kill a guy instead. Killing two girls (and my favorites ones) right off is so sickening... |
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Num1dad_Asura said: Objurgo said: I dislike how they did the second kill, it seemed unnecessary. As Monokuma said, it was to show how series he is about all this. I felt it was pretty necessary, otherwise they would take Monokuma as a joke. (That's what he is though, to be honest. Just a deadly one.) |
justgiveup said: Patureau said: I think one of the biggest questions here is who switched the the pictures indicating which room was naegi's and which was maizono's... was it automatically switched when they switched rooms ?r But they could be switched by monobear to facilitate any killing intent |
Num1dad_Asura said: Objurgo said: I dislike how they did the second kill, it seemed unnecessary. As Monokuma said, it was to show how series he is about all this. I felt it was pretty necessary, otherwise they would take Monokuma as a joke. True. But I thought he proved enough when he nearly exploded in the gangster kids hands. I don't know, I guess it felt like a waste of a character since there was a little bit of chit chat between her and the fighter |
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willardhwright said: I like reading this a lot, finally, people who get at least a little bit how the game/anime work and don't complain when a mystery doesn't give you the answer immediatly. People who don't only look at the obvious parts, but also at the details (as the toolbox). Don't forget the who/why/how (particularly the why) and the Crime reconstruction afterward. Also, don't forget to try to explain everything. Including the room swap, etc. I've finished the game though, so I know what happens already. Just dropping some hints that the anime failed to elaborate more clearly. |
Patureau said: justgiveup said: Patureau said: I think one of the biggest questions here is who switched the the pictures indicating which room was naegi's and which was maizono's... was it automatically switched when they switched rooms ?r But they could be switched by monobear to facilitate any killing intent Of course, you can't exclude the possibility that someone other than Monokuma switched the name plates. Like one of the students, for example. |
Patureau said: justgiveup said: Patureau said: I think one of the biggest questions here is who switched the the pictures indicating which room was naegi's and which was maizono's... was it automatically switched when they switched rooms ?r But they could be switched by monobear to facilitate any killing intent The real question would be: why would anyone switch it. Especially after a room switch. (Also monokuma swore that he didn't do anything that could "trouble the order of his school" or something like that) |
VoidNoodle said: willardhwright said: I like reading this a lot, finally, people who get at least a little bit how the game/anime work and don't complain when a mystery doesn't give you the answer immediatly. People who don't only look at the obvious parts, but also at the details (as the toolbox). Don't forget the who/why/how (particularly the why) and the Crime reconstruction afterward. Also, don't forget to try to explain everything. Including the room swap, etc. I've finished the game though, so I know what happens already. Just dropping some hints that the anime failed to elaborate more clearly. did you bought or downloaded the game ? i wanted to play it but i'm having a hard time finding a english version, for download or for sale =/ |
Patureau said: VoidNoodle said: willardhwright said: I like reading this a lot, finally, people who get at least a little bit how the game/anime work and don't complain when a mystery doesn't give you the answer immediatly. People who don't only look at the obvious parts, but also at the details (as the toolbox). Don't forget the who/why/how (particularly the why) and the Crime reconstruction afterward. Also, don't forget to try to explain everything. Including the room swap, etc. I've finished the game though, so I know what happens already. Just dropping some hints that the anime failed to elaborate more clearly. did you bought or downloaded the game ? i wanted to play it but i'm having a hard time finding a english version, for download or for sale =/ Download. Low as I might be, I have no means of importing the original game. Fuwanovel seems to have it. Just search fuwanovel dangan ronpa on Google. Take note, if you plan on playing via emulators on the PC, last time I checked there were still problems on both emulators that can run the game. If you have a PSP with CFW though, yeah it runs very fine. |
VoidNoodle said: Patureau said: VoidNoodle said: willardhwright said: I like reading this a lot, finally, people who get at least a little bit how the game/anime work and don't complain when a mystery doesn't give you the answer immediatly. People who don't only look at the obvious parts, but also at the details (as the toolbox). Don't forget the who/why/how (particularly the why) and the Crime reconstruction afterward. Also, don't forget to try to explain everything. Including the room swap, etc. I've finished the game though, so I know what happens already. Just dropping some hints that the anime failed to elaborate more clearly. did you bought or downloaded the game ? i wanted to play it but i'm having a hard time finding a english version, for download or for sale =/ Download. Low as I might be, I have no means of importing the original game. Fuwanovel seems to have it. Just search fuwanovel dangan ronpa on Google. Take note, if you plan on playing via emulators on the PC, last time I checked there were still problems on both emulators that can run the game. If you have a PSP with CFW though, yeah it runs very fine. was planning on going with the emulator.... dammit, i guess i'll see if i can borrow someone's psp, thanks for the help buddy =) |
willardhwright said: (That's what he is though, to be honest. Just a deadly one.) Lol true Objurgo said: True. But I thought he proved enough when he nearly exploded in the gangster kids hands. I don't know, I guess it felt like a waste of a character since there was a little bit of chit chat between her and the fighter Don't worry even dead characters play major roles in the story. |
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willardhwright said: Patureau said: justgiveup said: Patureau said: I think one of the biggest questions here is who switched the the pictures indicating which room was naegi's and which was maizono's... was it automatically switched when they switched rooms ?r But they could be switched by monobear to facilitate any killing intent The real question would be: why would anyone switch it. Especially after a room switch. (Also monokuma swore that he didn't do anything that could "trouble the order of his school" or something like that) If thats the case things get more complicared, i think maybe the killer could do it with the intent of blaming naegi, but i also cannot see how that would incriminate naegi much, i dont know i have to think a bit more about this |
Num1dad_Asura said: Don't worry even dead characters play major roles in the story. Are you hinting something? |
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TragicRomance said: Num1dad_Asura said: Don't worry even dead characters play major roles in the story. Are you hinting something? Don't read on it too much. |
TragicRomance said: Num1dad_Asura said: Don't worry even dead characters play major roles in the story. Are you hinting something? lol no, just talking in terms of development. |
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| I was wondering if we were going to see someone die in the second episode, I was expecting at least one but not two. I had a feeling that Maizono was going to die but not Junko. I figured out who killed Maizono from the number clue she left. It will be interesting to see what will happen during the trial and how Naegi will get out of it, maybe he'll get lucky. lol |
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| OK so if it was not monobear who changed the plates i can only see one possible explanation for it. Maizono killed herself, but she didnt want to anynoe to suspect on naegi, therefore she simulated a struggle in the room, broke the handle herself and switched the plates so everyone would thouhgt she died in her room and not on naegi's. But to be honest, i am not very sure about this theory, the broken hand is something that throws me off for instance, i have a feeling I'm missing something, but i could be wrong |
AkuenKigahen said: I was wondering if we were going to see someone die in the second episode, I was expecting at least one but not two. I had a feeling that Maizono was going to die but not Junko. I figured out who killed Maizono from the number clue she left. It will be interesting to see what will happen during the trial and how Naegi will get out of it, maybe he'll get lucky. lol Kirigiri will save the day, of course. :3 |
Patureau said: OK so if it was not monobear who changed the plates i can only see one possible explanation for it. Maizono killed herself, but she didnt want to anynoe to suspect on naegi, therefore she simulated a struggle in the room, broke the handle herself and switched the plates so everyone would thouhgt she died in her room and not on naegi's. But to be honest, i am not very sure about this theory, the broken hand is something that throws me off for instance, i have a feeling I'm missing something, but i could be wrong |
willardhwright said: Also, don't forget to try to explain everything. Including the room swap, etc. The room swap...ah yes. And how the signs on the door to the rooms were also switched. That confuses me. The explanation for the door knob provides evidence that she did NOT kill herself because she knew how to open the door. Naegi taught her the procedures of how to open it, so that means that she probably ran into the bathroom to try and hide, but this person was strong enough to break the knob, go inside, and kill her. I don't really understand the switching of the pictures that idicated Naegi's room and Sayaka's room either...there could be two possibilities, three actually but the third option is highly unlikely, but possible? (at this point I'm using "he" because it's getting tiring using "he/she" and I'm pretty sure the culprit is a guy, because they have to be pretty strong to knock that door handle. Unless...the total exception would be miss Sakura but I highly doubt it's her because as intimidating as she looks, I'm pretty sure it isn't her. Just a guy feeling. The piece of her sleeve and the crystal ball really confuses me though... |
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justgiveup said: Patureau said: Maizono killed herself, but she didnt want to anynoe to suspect on naegi not if she only got "suicidal" after switching rooms with naegi, but again i dont have much faith in this theory to be honest |
VoidNoodle said: Patureau said: OK so if it was not monobear who changed the plates i can only see one possible explanation for it. Maizono killed herself, but she didnt want to anynoe to suspect on naegi, therefore she simulated a struggle in the room, broke the handle herself and switched the plates so everyone would thouhgt she died in her room and not on naegi's. But to be honest, i am not very sure about this theory, the broken hand is something that throws me off for instance, i have a feeling I'm missing something, but i could be wrong true, but maybe was just her imagination, judging by her mental state is possible, but again i dont have much faith in the suicide theory to be honest, i just cant see why would someone change the plates, thats what bugging me |
| WHYY do I keep mistakening Sayaka for Sayako? lol sigh I need to get this problem fixed |
| Quick explanation on the glass ball thing. I'll put it on spoilers. I hope this could add some more to your theories. :) Again, if you don't want to look at it, just don't click the spoiler. I only elaborated the evidence inside, don't worry. |
reapered said: From my reddit post: I thought Maizono would die first anyways. The friendship between Naegi and Maizono, I thought was one-sided at first, with Maizono just using him. But now after this episode, I believe that Maizono actually cared for and liked Naegi. After all, she remembered his name. She switched her room sign thing with Naegi's with the tools in her room. Then she made Naegi stay in her room. She did this because she realized that someone would target Naegi. I mean, if I was in this game, I would target Naegi myself because he is a weakass shit. SHE DID IT FOR HIM. She probably had feelings for him back when they were in junior high. I think the person who killed Maizono was Leon, the Allstar. Leon fits everything. He wears a long sleeve white shirt. At the incinerator place, a piece of white shirt was found. The long sleeves can also be used to conceal a knife. The glass sphere was probably used to break into the room. This broken glass sphere was thrown away along with the shirt cuff at the incinerator. The number 11037, if you flip it upside down, it spells Leon (kinda.) The 11 was the number that looks the most like the letter N upside down. Leon fractured Maizono's wrist with his game winning home run swing using the katana. There are golden speckles from the katana on her wrist. Leon also tried to divert suspicion away from himself by accusing Naegi. He was also a little bit late to breakfast, but not sure if that meant anything. So yeah, I think Leon killed Maizono. He didn't intend to kill her as he was going for Naegi but good girl Naegi swapped rooms to save his life. Leon ended up having to kill Maizono because he didn't want to be found breaking the Night Time rule that everyone agreed too. Sorry for this mess of writing. Put this on spoiler, really. |
VoidNoodle said: Quick explanation on the glass ball thing. I'll put it on spoilers. I hope this could add some more to your theories. :) Again, if you don't want to look at it, just don't click the spoiler. I only elaborated the evidence inside, don't worry. what ? now i'm more confused than ever... otaku dude is involved in this ? damn, I need to think about this, it will take some time |
EarlCiel said: willardhwright said: Also, don't forget to try to explain everything. Including the room swap, etc. The room swap...ah yes. And how the signs on the door to the rooms were also switched. That confuses me. The explanation for the door knob provides evidence that she did NOT kill herself because she knew how to open the door. Naegi taught her the procedures of how to open it, so that means that she probably ran into the bathroom to try and hide, but this person was strong enough to break the knob, go inside, and kill her. I don't really understand the switching of the pictures that idicated Naegi's room and Sayaka's room either...there could be two possibilities, three actually but the third option is highly unlikely, but possible? The piece of her sleeve and the crystal ball really confuses me though... Haha, I already like you, some points are quite "on the spot" and I had the same theory on some points a while ago. I will not say which ones though. To be fair, the part with the glass ball is REALLY, REALLY hard to figure in the anime. They don't even say that it was found in the incinerator room, IIRC. Which is the least they should have done. For the nameplates... the who/why is really obvious when you think about it. You don't even have to seach too far. In fact, searching too far is counter-productive. I'll also quote Kirigiri on one point; remember that people can lie. |
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