what do you think about kids and teenagers watching hentai
Ontario said: Hentai gives an unrealistic look of what sex is like. Kids might think that is how you have to have sex (and since some hentai has incest themes I don't think it would turn out too well -_-). Real porn > Hentai. Real porn also gives wrong impression and make you think of perverted things it doesn't even show.Also there is real born with incest also. And lets not forget that the images are more intense when they are real people. Kids should not watch one or the other. They are both bad for children. |
Monad said: Ontario said: Hentai gives an unrealistic look of what sex is like. Kids might think that is how you have to have sex (and since some hentai has incest themes I don't think it would turn out too well -_-). Real porn > Hentai. Real porn also gives wrong impression and make you think of perverted things it doesn't even show.Also there is real born with incest also. And lets not forget that the images are more intense when they are real people. Kids should not watch one or the other. They are both bad for children. But hentai can be more "violent" then real porn. I mean, how many real porno's have tentacles and nipple fisting? |
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Ontario said: Monad said: Ontario said: Hentai gives an unrealistic look of what sex is like. Kids might think that is how you have to have sex (and since some hentai has incest themes I don't think it would turn out too well -_-). Real porn > Hentai. Real porn also gives wrong impression and make you think of perverted things it doesn't even show.Also there is real born with incest also. And lets not forget that the images are more intense when they are real people. Kids should not watch one or the other. They are both bad for children. But hentai can be more "violent" then real porn. I mean, how many real porno's have tentacles and nipple fisting? You sir, haven't seen two girls one cup. They are both horrible for little kids. end of story. There are many fetishes out there... |
Ontario said: Monad said: Ontario said: Hentai gives an unrealistic look of what sex is like. Kids might think that is how you have to have sex (and since some hentai has incest themes I don't think it would turn out too well -_-). Real porn > Hentai. Real porn also gives wrong impression and make you think of perverted things it doesn't even show.Also there is real born with incest also. And lets not forget that the images are more intense when they are real people. Kids should not watch one or the other. They are both bad for children. But hentai can be more "violent" then real porn. I mean, how many real porno's have tentacles and nipple fisting? Yes but because it is animated it doesn't look so real. For example i my self lot's of times can watch an anime girl getting raped by tentacles with out getting very disgusted while i can see a real porn scene with lots of guys and woman getting a wild sex behavior and feel a little sick to my stomach. |
| What it is, It is someone's fetish. Hell, I'd bet there is some video of a man procreating with a dead elephant, would you want your children watching such bestiality? Such Vulgarity? |
Zange said: What it is, It is someone's fetish. Hell, I'd bet there is some video of a man procreating with a dead elephant, would you want your children watching such bestiality? Such Vulgarity? Yes. |
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Ontario said: Zange said: What it is, It is someone's fetish. Hell, I'd bet there is some video of a man procreating with a dead elephant, would you want your children watching such bestiality? Such Vulgarity? Yes. When you are a horny teenager your hormones talk for you. Let's have this conversation in a few years. I bet you will see things differently. |
Monad said: Exactly. Thread over. You can't say it's bad for them after this - we don't know. And we don't know how a child's brain will absorb the experience of watching a Hentai. Anyway, all of our culture instills a hyperreal view of the world. One where what is the real experience of things is less real than the medial one - I do not see why porn should be specially kept away from them. If so, we must keep them from watching the news (it gives a one-sided unnuanced view of the world), cartoons (horses can't fly! AND THEY SURE AIN'T PINK), toys (the horror of children thinking we are all like Lego), fairy tales (there are no trolls, except on the internet), and so on. There are a milliard of things out there we're taught frankly absurd things about, sex is just one of them. We learn to throw away most other preconceptions. Why can't we throw away preconceptions about sex too? Generation Kill, Generation Porn. And the reason I am nostalgic to my childhood is because I was far more mentally healthy back then. Well, apart from that period where I wanted to conquer the world. |
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Monad said: Ontario said: Zange said: What it is, It is someone's fetish. Hell, I'd bet there is some video of a man procreating with a dead elephant, would you want your children watching such bestiality? Such Vulgarity? Yes. When you are a horny teenager your hormones talk for you. Let's have this conversation in a few years. I bet you will see things differently. Second this notion. |
Kaiserpingvin said: Monad said: Exactly. Thread over. You can't say it's bad for them after this - we don't know. And we don't know how a child's brain will absorb the experience of watching a Hentai. Anyway, all of our culture instills a hyperreal view of the world. One where what is the real experience of things is less real than the medial one - I do not see why porn should be specially kept away from them. If so, we must keep them from watching the news (it gives a one-sided unnuanced view of the world), cartoons (horses can't fly! AND THEY SURE AIN'T PINK), toys (the horror of children thinking we are all like Lego), fairy tales (there are no trolls, except on the internet), and so on. There are a milliard of things out there we're taught frankly absurd things about, sex is just one of them. We learn to throw away most other preconceptions. Why can't we throw away preconceptions about sex too? Generation Kill, Generation Porn. And the reason I am nostalgic to my childhood is because I was far more mentally healthy back then. Well, apart from that period where I wanted to conquer the world. Because I personally don't believe it is age appropriate, to introduce the idea of sex at a minor who has no perception of the world, but what toy the child wants next... There is a time and place for such actions, You don't see a tigress' cub procreating during infancy, nor do you see an elderly male tiger procreating with a newly born cub, such actions were made for procreation. If the child want to know of it, then surely the child will inquire, but introducing that thought a young age isn't the way to go. |
Monad said: Ontario said: Zange said: What it is, It is someone's fetish. Hell, I'd bet there is some video of a man procreating with a dead elephant, would you want your children watching such bestiality? Such Vulgarity? Yes. When you are a horny teenager your hormones talk for you. Let's have this conversation in a few years. I bet you will see things differently. Trying to take the intelligent elder role here I see. |
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Zange said: Because I personally don't believe it is age appropriate, to introduce the idea of sex at a minor who has no perception of the world, but what toy the child wants next... There is a time and place for such actions, You don't see a tigress' cub procreating during infancy, nor do you see an elderly male tiger procreating with a newly born cub, such actions were made for procreation. If the child want to know of it, then surely the child will inquire, but introducing that thought a young age isn't the way to go. I am not exactly propagating for children having sex, mind you. And sex is the most natural thing in the world. There is nothing wrong, dirty, unnatural or child-killing with sex. While there's certainly from my own moral point of view something wrong, dirty and child-killing with murder, something they get to know much earlier and get to see in their fiction (it's also natural, though, of course). I don't see why sex should be special. It's all carried-over prudeness from the days of dogmatic Christendom/Islam/pretty much any other religion. |
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Ontario said: Monad said: Ontario said: Zange said: What it is, It is someone's fetish. Hell, I'd bet there is some video of a man procreating with a dead elephant, would you want your children watching such bestiality? Such Vulgarity? Yes. When you are a horny teenager your hormones talk for you. Let's have this conversation in a few years. I bet you will see things differently. Trying to take the intelligent elder role here I see. Well, you're simply stating your view that you believe it is alright for such youngsters to watch such corrupting filth, without properly supporting your statement. Elaborate on your position then. |
Ontario said: Monad said: Ontario said: Zange said: What it is, It is someone's fetish. Hell, I'd bet there is some video of a man procreating with a dead elephant, would you want your children watching such bestiality? Such Vulgarity? Yes. When you are a horny teenager your hormones talk for you. Let's have this conversation in a few years. I bet you will see things differently. Trying to take the intelligent elder role here I see. Yes i am. Nothing wrong with taking that role when what you say is true. |
Zange said: Actually the onus is on you. You are the one supposing an effect. It is the one supposing the effect who's supposed to prove it. Ontario said: Monad said: Ontario said: Zange said: What it is, It is someone's fetish. Hell, I'd bet there is some video of a man procreating with a dead elephant, would you want your children watching such bestiality? Such Vulgarity? Yes. When you are a horny teenager your hormones talk for you. Let's have this conversation in a few years. I bet you will see things differently. Trying to take the intelligent elder role here I see. Well, you're simply stating your view that you believe it is alright for such youngsters to watch such corrupting filth, without properly supporting your statement. Elaborate on your position then. |
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Kaiserpingvin said: Zange said: Because I personally don't believe it is age appropriate, to introduce the idea of sex at a minor who has no perception of the world, but what toy the child wants next... There is a time and place for such actions, You don't see a tigress' cub procreating during infancy, nor do you see an elderly male tiger procreating with a newly born cub, such actions were made for procreation. If the child want to know of it, then surely the child will inquire, but introducing that thought a young age isn't the way to go. I am not exactly propagating for children having sex, mind you. And sex is the most natural thing in the world. There is nothing wrong, dirty, unnatural or child-killing with sex. While there's certainly from my own moral point of view something wrong, dirty and child-killing with murder, something they get to know much earlier and get to see in their fiction (it's also natural, though, of course). I don't see why sex should be special. It's all carried-over prudeness from the days of dogmatic Christendom/Islam/pretty much any other religion. I see as, once you put an idea into a child's head, they'll want to do said idea. Even more if they believe it is tabooed by the parent. Nothing is wrong with sex, but the introduction of it to a minor, I have a problem with that. Introducing sex to an 8 year old isn't the way to go about this situation. Sex is a natural part of life, I agree.However I don't want my child staring at a screen ogling people and becoming socially inept and lecherous because of porn's false projected ideas. There is a time and place for such mannerisms, It needs to be handled in a professional manner. |
Zange said: Ontario said: Monad said: Ontario said: Zange said: What it is, It is someone's fetish. Hell, I'd bet there is some video of a man procreating with a dead elephant, would you want your children watching such bestiality? Such Vulgarity? Yes. When you are a horny teenager your hormones talk for you. Let's have this conversation in a few years. I bet you will see things differently. Trying to take the intelligent elder role here I see. Well, you're simply stating your view that you believe it is alright for such youngsters to watch such corrupting filth, without properly supporting your statement. Elaborate on your position then. I never said it was alright. |
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Kaiserpingvin said: Zange said: Actually the onus is on you. You are the one supposing an effect. It is the one supposing the effect who's supposed to prove it. Ontario said: Monad said: Ontario said: Zange said: What it is, It is someone's fetish. Hell, I'd bet there is some video of a man procreating with a dead elephant, would you want your children watching such bestiality? Such Vulgarity? Yes. When you are a horny teenager your hormones talk for you. Let's have this conversation in a few years. I bet you will see things differently. Trying to take the intelligent elder role here I see. Well, you're simply stating your view that you believe it is alright for such youngsters to watch such corrupting filth, without properly supporting your statement. Elaborate on your position then. I don't believe that a single one worded answer puts an onus on the questioner. |
Zange said: Kaiserpingvin said: Zange said: Actually the onus is on you. You are the one supposing an effect. It is the one supposing the effect who's supposed to prove it. Ontario said: Monad said: Ontario said: Zange said: What it is, It is someone's fetish. Hell, I'd bet there is some video of a man procreating with a dead elephant, would you want your children watching such bestiality? Such Vulgarity? Yes. When you are a horny teenager your hormones talk for you. Let's have this conversation in a few years. I bet you will see things differently. Trying to take the intelligent elder role here I see. Well, you're simply stating your view that you believe it is alright for such youngsters to watch such corrupting filth, without properly supporting your statement. Elaborate on your position then. I don't believe that a single one worded answer puts an onus on the questioner. I was obviously joking. |
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Kaiserpingvin said: Monad said: Exactly. Thread over. You can't say it's bad for them after this - we don't know. And we don't know how a child's brain will absorb the experience of watching a Hentai. Anyway, all of our culture instills a hyperreal view of the world. One where what is the real experience of things is less real than the medial one - I do not see why porn should be specially kept away from them. If so, we must keep them from watching the news (it gives a one-sided unnuanced view of the world), cartoons (horses can't fly! AND THEY SURE AIN'T PINK), toys (the horror of children thinking we are all like Lego), fairy tales (there are no trolls, except on the internet), and so on. There are a milliard of things out there we're taught frankly absurd things about, sex is just one of them. We learn to throw away most other preconceptions. Why can't we throw away preconceptions about sex too? Generation Kill, Generation Porn. And the reason I am nostalgic to my childhood is because I was far more mentally healthy back then. Well, apart from that period where I wanted to conquer the world. Well, the thread is not over because even when you can't say if it will affect them in a bad way, you don't just go ahead and try and see what happens. I at least would not like to experiment with the mental health of my children like this. And yes some violent and strange things should also be kept away from them. Not only porn. I bet you have the logic to realize that some things are more intense than others and not all things are the same. Extreme violence and porn are two of them. Am not saying to shut them completly off but this kind of things should be slowly introduced to them and at the right time. |
Zange said: What it is, It is someone's fetish. Hell, I'd bet there is some video of a man procreating with a dead elephant, would you want your children watching such bestiality? Such Vulgarity? ontario said: Yes. ontario said: I never said it was alright. contradiction much? |
Zange said: Zange said: What it is, It is someone's fetish. Hell, I'd bet there is some video of a man procreating with a dead elephant, would you want your children watching such bestiality? Such Vulgarity? ontario said: Yes. ontario said: I never said it was alright. contradiction much? -_- OntarioI was obviously joking.[/quote said: |
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Ontario said: Zange said: Zange said: What it is, It is someone's fetish. Hell, I'd bet there is some video of a man procreating with a dead elephant, would you want your children watching such bestiality? Such Vulgarity? ontario said: Yes. ontario said: I never said it was alright. contradiction much? -_- Ontario said: I was obviously joking. |
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Zange said: Yeah, I know, epistemology is a bitch :/I don't believe that a single one worded answer puts an onus on the questioner. Anyway, if someone thinks it's alright, elaborating is not needed unless he presumes an effect, is it? Not presuming an effect is of course a bit silly and not very illuminating but still, if the questioners who propose that there is an effect do not bring any evidence to that claim, they are nearly indistinguishable. Monad said: Well, the thread is not over because even when you can't say if it will affect them in a bad way, you don't just go ahead and try and see what happens. I at least would not like to experiment with the mental health of my children like this. And yes some violent and strange things should also be kept away from them. Not only porn. I bet you have the logic to realize that some things are more intense than others and not all things are the same. Extreme violence and porn are two of them. Am not saying to shut them completly off but this kind of things should be slowly introduced to them and at the right time. I would frankly not have any qualms about my children watching porn (as is evident by this thread), so yeah. We're both suported by mere conjecture, all I am doing is minimizing the assumptions I make - it's an useful epistemological technique, but it has certainly backfired in the past. So I just realized this boils down to a rather nebulous diffusion point of our assumptions, really. I think that if we let go of our children and let them know of sex, including the not-ver-realistic type found in porn, society at large will change and they won't end up fucked-up, since there will be a totally different attitude to sex. I don't think it does, you think it does. We must test. We need volunteers. We need to--- wait the_seventh_l said: my brain just stopped workingWAIT Ontario said: Monad said: Ontario said: Hentai gives an unrealistic look of what sex is like. Kids might think that is how you have to have sex (and since some hentai has incest themes I don't think it would turn out too well -_-). Real porn > Hentai. Real porn also gives wrong impression and make you think of perverted things it doesn't even show.Also there is real born with incest also. And lets not forget that the images are more intense when they are real people. Kids should not watch one or the other. They are both bad for children. But hentai can be more "violent" then real porn. I mean, how many real porno's have tentacles and nipple fisting? I mean, how many real porno's have tentacles and nipple fisting? and nipple fisting? nipple fisting WHAT |
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| New to the topic. Not reading other posts first. Pornography cannot really harm a child or human being for that matter. Personally, it's just media. If a kid wants to see a pornographic film, and you force them not to, it's as bad as forcing them to see it. We're supposed to be protecting children from things they don't want, not things they want. |
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the_seventh_l said: And out of curiosity, did you find Bible Black w/ or w/o subs? 'Cos trying to find hentai w/ subs is like pulling teeth sometimes >_< I found it with subs over on megavideo.com, though its always in parts and you can't always find them all -.- My own opinion on the matter here. If they can find it they should be aloud to watch it. If parents don't want their children watching porn then they should use parental control (though I personally know how useless those are lol) or monitor the child’s internet usage (of course a smart kid knows how to get around that as well). What's wrong with a child experimenting with themselves? There is plenty out there that they could be doing that is a lot worse. |
| omg! dubbed bible black has to be one of the worst/funniest dubbed animes ever. what was with all the fake foreign accents???? |
the_seventh_l said: Now I'm not sure even I'm old enough to watch hentai. :/WAIT Ontario said: But hentai can be more "violent" then real porn. I mean, how many real porno's have tentacles and nipple fisting? I mean, how many real porno's have tentacles and nipple fisting? and nipple fisting? nipple fisting WHAT |
sseth672 said: [Sudden rant: I SAW PORN OF WINNIE THE POOH, WHY WHY WHY] 0.0 ?! WHAT?! |
the_seventh_l said: Yeah, me too.sseth672 said: I don't watch hentai :/ Just surf through rule 34 all day ruining whatever's left of my childhood memories [Sudden rant: I SAW PORN OF WINNIE THE POOH, WHY WHY WHY] Sadly, I think I've seen worse ;__; Although seeing Rule 34 on Rule 34 was fun. |
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| This topic is absolutely hilarious. What makes it better is that the guy who started it is a 15 year old living in Curitiba, Brazil. If you don't know, that place, while a section of it is indeed very poor, has some of the hottest women in the world, and is home to numerous famous mixed martial artists and their camps. If I were that age and living there, I'd spend all day training and hanging out with the beautiful girls, not making Internet topics about animated porn. Jesus. |
girl said: I watched a tiny bit of hentai, out of curiosity. (Like 5 mins). FYI it was Bible Black. It was a little too creepy for me. I don't know if any other hentai's are like that. But I'm too creeped out to look for normal ones. :P BTW I'm 12, if that still counts as a kid. Some hentai is just messed up in my opinion and tastes. And what little of Bible Black I did see I didn't like. Some adults have pornography they feel is too creepy for them. |
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| Sigh, its called looking for DBZ pictures on Google Images with the safe search off then they start watching hentai like there was no tomorrow.... Have done that myself and now find it quite disgusting. |
ShaolinRibiero said: This topic is absolutely hilarious. What makes it better is that the guy who started it is a 15 year old living in Curitiba, Brazil. If you don't know, that place, while a section of it is indeed very poor, has some of the hottest women in the world, and is home to numerous famous mixed martial artists and their camps. If I were that age and living there, I'd spend all day training and hanging out with the beautiful girls, not making Internet topics about animated porn. Jesus. QFT. lol Rule 34 on the gingerbread man, that was really awkward when i saw it ¬_¬ |
Foggle said: CHILDREN LOOKING AT PORNOGRAPHY?!?!?! WHAT HAS OUR SOCIETY BECOME?!?!!?!?!? |
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| The children must not see hentai... All the topics related to the sex have his(her,your) stage, and to be able and to understand the sex he(she) needs mature mentally, and a child lacks of this mature |
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georgi said: Teddy said: I even find hentai less harmful than real-life porn, at a psychological level, since it doesn't give you a 'Ohmygod, that person is way hotter than me!'-idea. Though I agree that there's nothing wrong with teenagers jacking off, saying hentai is less harmful is not something I can easily let pass. Not only does it give wrong information and impressions on the act of sex, it may involve ridiculous amounts of violent sex, rape, gang bang, whatever... Even if this does not have a negative impact on a teenager, I can't see how it may be helpful, so I think it should be avoided. ^I agree with this Sex is a natural part of life, yes, but Hentai is full of some pretty sick fetishes and non-consensual sex. I don't think this is good "education". Also, for victims of sexual abuse, there are a lot of "triggering" scenes in these things. Real porn is the same in this sense, with the added "realness" of having real life actors playing the roles. I think there does need to be regulation so that those without the right capacity to discern fantasy from reality (namely kids and very immature teenagers) aren't allowed to watch porn, real or animated. How this could be policed, I have no idea, but the current policy in most countries of letting those only of a certain age buy porn can work (up to a point I think, since the internet is full of easily accessible porn. Afterall, without it, the internet would probably not exist...). However, moral relativism coming into play here, would I mind if my kids watched it?... *shrugs* Kids are always going to be tempted to watch porn, because society as a whole is always saying they can't. I think, so long as it isn't something disturbing, and there is open and honest discussion over what is right (respect for the other, not being pressured, etc) and what isn't (violent sex, rape, etc, etc), with regards to sex, I could let my teenage children watch it... Not kids though, since I honestly believe they're not old enough to handle that "burden of knowledge" yet... But this is coming from someone who doesn't have children, so I don't know what I would do in real life. I guess I wouldn't freak out as much as someone more prudish might if I caught my son (or daughter...lol) reading playboy or watching hentai...*shrugs* Okay, I probably didn't make much sense here, so I'll just leave quietly and go read some more Sherlock Holmes... ;) |
ShaolinRibiero said: This topic is absolutely hilarious. What makes it better is that the guy who started it is a 15 year old living in Curitiba, Brazil. If you don't know, that place, while a section of it is indeed very poor, has some of the hottest women in the world, and is home to numerous famous mixed martial artists and their camps. If I were that age and living there, I'd spend all day training and hanging out with the beautiful girls, not making Internet topics about animated porn. Jesus. QFT Having been to Brazil, I can say this is most definitely true. Brazilian women are, in general, absolutely drop-dead gorgeous, IMHO XD |
| Pfft, I've got 8 year old kids emailing me scat porn over here- which their parents showed them. Hentai? lol. |
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| Developing minds probably shouldn't see skewed sexual behavior like is seen in a hell of a lot of hentai. So I'd say they shouldn't. Mostly because they shouldn't be allowed to go to a strip club, either. |
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| From reading the replies to this and the entire giant argument earlier, I think everyone is kind of missing the hidden issue with topics like this, and oh are there so many of them on bulletin boards. There is a really good reason why these sorts of everyday topics are called controversial, and if you notice, every single person in this thread has their own opinion and have made excellent points. But that isn't the issue... The original question (which became heavily distorted throughout the thread, another common issue) was 'Is it ok if children and teenagers willingfully watch hentai on their own accord'. Many have stated that it isn't, for various reasons, and the opposing side has stated their own opinions as well; however, there is no existent and sound answer to this question. Whether it is lack of studies or experimentation, or lack of understanding of the human brain (young or old), there is no existent person that can give the true answer to this. 'Well that's why we discuss it'. Yes, but no matter how much you discuss, argue, or tear each others throats out about it, you will not come to the conclusion that everyone desires. Not to mention the conclusion everyone desires cannot exist because it would be paradoxical (seeing as there are many different sides to a controversial topic and many people want the answer to be different things (such as it is not okay for children to watch hentai because ... and vice versa)). It is indeed quite excellent material to converse about, however I find these sorts of topics unfortunately become quite excellent troll and flamer bait as well. The important thing is to keep in mind the topic at hand and don't let other opinions derail the thread. Final note: This reply is not meant to insult or demean anyone (including the OP), I am simply stating what I believe is a fact in an attempt to eliminate the chaos that this thread has become over the time that it was replied to, whether this is successful or not is up to everyone else. Attempting to flame me for having this view is not an action I think would be necessary. So, back to the topic now! |
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| If someone is curious and they watch some hentai i'm sure they won't turn into rapists/dregs of society over night. Yes, kids have "tender" minds but i'm sure that nothing they could see from hentai would be anything they would never be able to concieve themselves. |
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This Brazilian girl who commented on my last.fm profile is rather attractive. But seriously, what's up with labeling countries as having beautiful women. I'm of the opinion that most countries that are not third world and can have proper nutrition are going to have a few good looking women. Going on about how Brazilian women are attractive is no different that going on about how Japanese women are attractive, it sounds like fetishism. Being in Brazil wouldn't change my behavior at all. I don't see what's so exciting about Brazil. I'd much rather go to some place like Finland. Brazil is much too tropical for me. On a side note, being on topic, some people have been labeling hentai as unrealistic. But porn in general is unrealistic, not just hentai. Lot's of things are unrealistic. So kids can't watch porn because it's unrealistic but they can watch other things that are unrealistic? |
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